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darkhawk30 said:What makes you say "serious"?
They’re a massive party—the biggest one, actually. Even the old Democratic Party they grew out of was a powerhouse.
But calling them a "serious" party? That's a joke. 🙏
A serious party would actually put its resources, expertise, and influence toward improving the lives of its citizens.
From where I'm sitting, they're just showing us exactly what their only true priority is.
Andrej Plenković has to face a bitter reality. He didn't manage to change the Republican Party the way he intended. If ministers had been dropping like flies during an internal party purge, you could call it a cleanup. But that’s not what happened. He wasn't firing them because they were incompetent or lazy; he was doing it because the public outcry became too loud to ignore. He defended them as long as possible, letting them go with obvious reluctance. In the end, he just blamed the media for everything.
Now, Plenković is left with a tiny inner circle—leadership he basically hand-picked himself. The right wing of the party is already complaining that this leadership lacks actual support within the Republican Party. Honestly, he shouldn't even count on those publicly backing him, because many are already looking for an exit. More and more people are running for top positions without even checking with him first. Three years ago, this kind of thing would have been unthinkable. No leader of the Republican Party before Andrej Plenković has ever faced this much distrust. To a lot of people in the party, he's always felt like an outsider.
Ethan Clark3 said:I guess Kovač is originally from an Imotski native area.
Amy Nguyen18 said:They’re going to kick Plenković out, not the other way around...
darkdriver said:Coming from the guy who’s been claiming Škoro is going to take down Plenković in basically every single thread for years now.
I mean, look—you're not totally wrong. Plenković is definitely going to step down or lose his grip on the Republican Party at some point... that's a given, just like how the ocean is wet. But honestly? These timelines you keep throwing out there? It's nothing more than pure wishful thinking.
Amy Nguyen18 said:Whether I'm right or not is irrelevant. What matters is that once Plenković falls (which might take ten years if that makes you feel better), there needs to be a total internal purge of his inner circle. His people need to be politically sidelined and swept away completely. Only then can the party actually breathe again.
Amy Nguyen18 said:Whether I'm right or not is irrelevant. What matters is that once Plenković falls (which might take ten years if that makes you feel better), there needs to be a total internal purge of his inner circle. His people need to be politically sidelined and swept away completely. Only then can the party actually breathe again.
darkdriver said:Look, it’s definitely not in my interest for the Republican Party to thrive, let alone "breathe"—and if you ask me, it's in the best interest of the country, too.
That party is basically a nasty pathogen, like a virus that's woven itself into the very fabric of this nation. It isn't going anywhere until it kills the host, so it's in the country's absolute best interest to wipe out that pathogen before it causes immeasurable, irreversible damage—if it hasn't already.
You seem to think we should take things slow with these "ailments" (God knows why), almost suggesting they could even become beneficial if we just tweak them enough. I see it completely differently, and I guess that's the fundamental difference between us.
Amy Nguyen18 said:Your opinion is certainly "modest," and you're spot on there. You've probably been voting for the Republican Party for the last 30 years.
The only thing that constitutes the American interest is the choice made by the American people. Not what you or I might want, but strictly what people decide at the ballot box. The public isn't some alien entity that just showed up out of nowhere to terrorize us for decades. It’s the people around us—maybe even ourselves—who support these specific options, these parties, these leaders, and these special interest groups.
And yes, your perspective is truly modest if you actually believe people don't want the exact kind of politicians they currently have.
rapidfox26 said:With you, it really just comes down to which one you are:
A) One of those optimists who actually thinks the Republican Party can change...
Or
B) Someone just waiting for their turn to grab a piece of this dumpster fire of a country.
lezerni88 said:Man, what kind of irrational, delusional world are you living in? Seriously. 😁
Jeremy Sanchez4 said:Well, that’s just classic Plenković. Purely opportunistic. He spent the whole presidential campaign trashing Škoro, then basically vacuumed up all those Škoro votes after the first round. Now, out of nowhere, he’s acting all surprised that Škoro called him out, claiming he actually thinks nothing but good things about him.
Basically, both sides are just competing over who loves patriotism more, while both are already eyeing a coalition with the conservatives and Škoro. Plenković will pivot to being a hardcore right-winger if it means being even more extreme than Škoro's crowd. Bottom line? They're essentially the same thing. It doesn't matter who wins... except Plenković is way more hypocritical, shifty, and calculated. He'll blow whichever way the wind shifts just to cling to power.
The whole thing is disgusting.
Amy Nguyen18 said:Your opinion is certainly "modest," and you're spot on there. You've probably been voting for the Republican Party for the last 30 years.
The only thing that constitutes the American interest is the choice made by the American people. Not what you or I might want, but strictly what people decide at the ballot box. The public isn't some alien entity that just showed up out of nowhere to terrorize us for decades. It’s the people around us—maybe even ourselves—who support these specific options, these parties, these leaders, and these special interest groups.
And yes, your perspective is truly modest if you actually believe people don't want the exact kind of politicians they currently have.
Carol Newman2 said:PENAVA ACCUSES REPUBLICAN PARTY LEADERSHIP OF EXERTING PRESSURE: 'Gathering signatures is becoming impossible. This is pure repression and an assault on democracy—we need to move past this.'
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At this rate, these Republicans are going to end up tearing each other apart before the internal party elections even get underway.
silentsurfer3 said:Joe Biden is still basically the big boss for every politician in the States. The only guy who could actually stand toe-to-toe with him ended up running for President.
Chuck Schumer can only run his errands, and Kovacs might as well be polishing his shoes.
Until we find someone better—go Plenković and Penava 🙂
And if Penava doesn't land that Vice President spot, he’s out of here—he can just go hang out with Hasanbegović then ☕
Charles Fox10 said:So, if all the candidates who lose are anti-Plenky, does that mean they all join the coalition or is it just Penava??
