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Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
199 messages
joined Nov 2012
#981 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:Look, neither you nor our buddy Robin Jones2 are lying, per se, but what you're both saying just isn't grounded in reality. I don't know about you, but this guy clearly thinks Milanović would be forced (or choose) to give the mandate to form a government to Bernardić if the Democrats come out as the relative winners... regardless of any actual coalition potential. I'm telling you, that’s not happening, or at least I'm extremely skeptical about that scenario. Plus, there’s zero reason to even do it that way.

In this upcoming election, it’s totally plausible that the Democrats end up with 5-10 more seats than the Republicans, yet still have absolutely no mathematical way to form a government without Škoro (which effectively means they can't form The Government at all). So, what’s the point of even handing them the mandate to try?
Back with Mason and Sanders, there was definitely some maneuvering going on, but Mason clearly knew Sanders held the majority and gave him the mandate accordingly... anything else wouldn't have made any sense in the first place.

Personally, I don't really care either way, but handing someone the mandate when you know damn well they don't have a majority? That’s a recipe for an absolute nightmare of a situation.

In his interview, Bago Milanović stated he will wait for signatures, which effectively eliminates my speculation that he might decide to grant the mandate to the relative winner.

My takeaway is that he intends to allow sufficient time for discussions and negotiations so that someone might actually reach an agreement with others. He won't resort to threatening the appointment of a caretaker government or calling for new elections the way Kolinda did.

As for myself, I believe Restart could emerge as the relative winner, but the Republican Party will ultimately form the government. They possess a massive cash reserve to trade for representatives, the Democratic Party and Škoro are unthinkable in a coalition together while the Republican Party and Škoro are, and finally, the Republican Party holds a vast reservoir of intelligence from their quasi-intelligence underworld, coupled with having the most experience in this specific brand of politics.

The Republican Party is already busy buying off people who don't even realize yet that they'll be sitting on someone else's ticket.
Chloe Martinez7 Chloe Martinez7 Active Member
144 messages
joined Jul 2017
#982 ·
Robin Jones2 said:In his interview, Bago Milanović stated he will wait for signatures, which effectively eliminates my speculation that he might decide to grant the mandate to the relative winner.

My takeaway is that he intends to allow sufficient time for discussions and negotiations so that someone might actually reach an agreement with others. He won't resort to threatening the appointment of a caretaker government or calling for new elections the way Kolinda did.

As for myself, I believe Restart could emerge as the relative winner, but the Republican Party will ultimately form the government. They possess a massive cash reserve to trade for representatives, the Democratic Party and Škoro are unthinkable in a coalition together while the Republican Party and Škoro are, and finally, the Republican Party holds a vast reservoir of intelligence from their quasi-intelligence underworld, coupled with having the most experience in this specific brand of politics.

The Republican Party is already busy buying off people who don't even realize yet that they'll be sitting on someone else's ticket.

He has to wait for those signatures ☕
Can anyone even try to "interpret" anything here?
The election date seems fine—June 21st hits near a long weekend, June 28th is Vidovdan, which isn't ideal, and by July 12th, everyone is already heading out for summer vacation.

Is the campaign window too short?
Well, the Republican Party made the call ☕on when to dissolve the Cabinet

They could have picked any other day. Or they could have just finished their full term.
Mark Hughes36 Mark Hughes36 Active Member
109 messages
joined Feb 2023
#983 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:Look, neither you nor our buddy Robin Jones2 are lying, per se, but what you're both saying just isn't grounded in reality. I don't know about you, but this guy clearly thinks Milanović would be forced (or choose) to give the mandate to form a government to Bernardić if the Democrats come out as the relative winners... regardless of any actual coalition potential. I'm telling you, that’s not happening, or at least I'm extremely skeptical about that scenario. Plus, there’s zero reason to even do it that way.

In this upcoming election, it’s totally plausible that the Democrats end up with 5-10 more seats than the Republicans, yet still have absolutely no mathematical way to form a government without Škoro (which effectively means they can't form The Government at all). So, what’s the point of even handing them the mandate to try?
Back with Mason and Sanders, there was definitely some maneuvering going on, but Mason clearly knew Sanders held the majority and gave him the mandate accordingly... anything else wouldn't have made any sense in the first place.

Personally, I don't really care either way, but handing someone the mandate when you know damn well they don't have a majority? That’s a recipe for an absolute nightmare of a situation.

Even back during that mandate "crisis" that ended without George W. Bush actually gathering enough signatures, I believed that supporting a nominee should be documented with actual signatures, rather than letting the President exercise some arbitrary discretion in interpreting election results. Because of how the media joined the frenzy to pressure Jimmy Carter (who was just doing his job), I stopped reading >.

Only irrational people would try to hide the fact that they're picking a side to support a nominee. In a democracy, you aren't required to hide your political leanings, but you are expected to face the consequences of your choices. And Friščić was...

But that didn't happen. George W. Bush was declared the leader even though he never presented the President with the signatures proving he had the necessary House support. Just thought I'd remind you of that fact, along with the media hysteria that (totally by coincidence 🤣) served to fuel the Republican Party. 😉
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#984 ·
https://www.telegram.us/politics-crisis-is-it-not-enough-evidence/
Apparently, some video showing a teacher screaming murder threats at kids isn't even considered valid evidence by the American courts.
Krešimir Bagarić is facing charges for inciting public violence and hate speech, but honestly, he might just walk right out of there free.


Just disgusting.

-Stipe
Lisa Perez50 Lisa Perez50 Active Member
170 messages
joined Feb 2020
#985 ·
Andrej Plenković is honestly a joke to me, just like USA Today 🙏

https://i.postimg.cc/qM5gCZH1/405041.jpg

Working on Sundays: "If current epidemiological data shows it's no longer necessary, then we'll lift that measure. As for Sunday, I'm in favor of making it a non-working day. That is the political stance of both the Cabinet and the Republican Party," said Andrej Plenković.

Miroslav Škoro said regarding the Democratic Party: "In a scenario where Ivan Kolakušić, backed by the Living Wall, drops out of the race and effectively consolidates the left-wing vote—especially since some people within our party were more active supporting other sides than supporting Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović—Škoro could hit 24 percent. And what was actually achieved? Not only did Zoran Milanović lead in the first round, but in the second round, 100,000 ballots were rendered invalid, which was blatant sabotage. I believe people see this now and won't let the same thing happen twice. Repeating that scenario would only benefit Davor Bernardić and the Democratic Party."
Patrick Cook Patrick Cook Member
25 messages
joined Jul 2023
#986 ·
It’s pretty obvious that Andrej Plenković is living in some kind of parallel universe entirely of his own making 🙏
Edward Cooper2 Edward Cooper2 Active Member
142 messages
joined Mar 2023
#987 ·
Lisa Perez50 said:Andrej Plenković is honestly a joke to me, just like USA Today 🙏

https://i.postimg.cc/qM5gCZH1/405041.jpg

Working on Sundays: "If current epidemiological data shows it's no longer necessary, then we'll lift that measure. As for Sunday, I'm in favor of making it a non-working day. That is the political stance of both the Cabinet and the Republican Party," said Andrej Plenković.

Miroslav Škoro said regarding the Democratic Party: "In a scenario where Ivan Kolakušić, backed by the Living Wall, drops out of the race and effectively consolidates the left-wing vote—especially since some people within our party were more active supporting other sides than supporting Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović—Škoro could hit 24 percent. And what was actually achieved? Not only did Zoran Milanović lead in the first round, but in the second round, 100,000 ballots were rendered invalid, which was blatant sabotage. I believe people see this now and won't let the same thing happen twice. Repeating that scenario would only benefit Davor Bernardić and the Democratic Party."

The devil is clearly out for blood, especially with how they're approaching a future partner... I have a bad feeling this shark isn't going to be nearly as generous as some people were hoping.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
199 messages
joined Nov 2012
#988 ·
It appears the nation's economic and financial landscape is significantly more dire than we are being led to believe.

Andrej Plenković is playing an all-or-nothing game, either hoping the Republican Party can secure a majority to form The Cabinet on its own, or perhaps praying they lose the election entirely, leaving someone else to deal with the inevitable fallout.
quietfox38 quietfox38 Member
30 messages
joined Mar 2023
#989 ·
Look, Andrej Plenković is playing the exact same hand Ivo Sanders used back in the day when he claimed that "voting for the Libertarian Party is basically just helping the Democratic Party." That tactic worked for Sanders, but those were different times. I don't think Plenković is going to find nearly as much luck this year.
Noah Perez5 Noah Perez5 Active Member
61 messages
joined Mar 2023
#990 ·
Lisa Perez50 said:Andrej Plenković is honestly a joke to me, just like USA Today 🙏

https://i.postimg.cc/qM5gCZH1/405041.jpg

Working on Sundays: "If current epidemiological data shows it's no longer necessary, then we'll lift that measure. As for Sunday, I'm in favor of making it a non-working day. That is the political stance of both the Cabinet and the Republican Party," said Andrej Plenković.

Miroslav Škoro said regarding the Democratic Party: "In a scenario where Ivan Kolakušić, backed by the Living Wall, drops out of the race and effectively consolidates the left-wing vote—especially since some people within our party were more active supporting other sides than supporting Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović—Škoro could hit 24 percent. And what was actually achieved? Not only did Zoran Milanović lead in the first round, but in the second round, 100,000 ballots were rendered invalid, which was blatant sabotage. I believe people see this now and won't let the same thing happen twice. Repeating that scenario would only benefit Davor Bernardić and the Democratic Party."

The level of conspiracy theory being peddled here feels reminiscent of an average fringe internet forum.

I had somewhat higher expectations for the Anemic, I suppose.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
199 messages
joined Nov 2012
#991 ·
Noah Perez5 said:The level of conspiracy theory being peddled here feels reminiscent of an average fringe internet forum.

I had somewhat higher expectations for the Anemic, I suppose.

He is certainly not stupid, and he is educated enough.

However, he is far from brilliant; if he were truly intelligent, his father wouldn't be writing his high school graduation papers for him.
Patrick Cook Patrick Cook Member
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joined Jul 2023
#992 ·
Andrej Plenković is just your average guy with mediocre intelligence and an education he basically stumbled into by pure luck.

He was part of that privileged little circle of kids whose old man—who worked deep within the intelligence community—smoothed over his high school finals, got him through college, and landed him a cushy gig at the Department of State.

That’s how he built his little network, wasn't it? It opened doors for him to be Mati Granić's assistant during those 2000 elections, which eventually slid him right into the European Parliament—where he did absolutely nothing except sit around in endless bureaucratic meetings designed solely to waste everyone's time. Then, thanks to some drama involving Tomislav Karamarko, he suddenly found his way to the top as the leader of the Republican Party and then Prime Minister.
He's like a slightly more "intellectual" version of Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović—someone who knows how to scale social ladders and bulk up a resume without actually having the substance to back it up.

But hey, thank God he finally got to show off his true talents and skills! He’s managed to become the absolute worst Prime Minister ever to lead this terrible Cabinet, and honestly, he could very easily find himself behind bars in four years because of that whole Borg scandal.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
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joined Nov 2012
#993 ·
The Cabinet is proposing 14 working Sundays per year, leaving employers to decide which specific dates to implement

Andrej Plenković wants non-working Sundays back

The ban on Sunday work was an epidemiological measure implemented during a completely different era than our current reality, where single-digit infection rates are the norm. The sole purpose of that measure was to reduce population mobility once a week. If it is now epidemiologically established that such steps are no longer necessary, then the measure will be lifted,“ the Prime Minister stated in an interview with the Saturday edition of The New York Times.

He personally advocates for a non-working Sunday. "Regarding Sundays, I am in favor of them being non-working. That is the political stance of the Cabinet and the Republican Party,“ he remarked.

Does anyone actually believe that Zdravko Capak and Vili Beroš decided on non-working Sundays based on epidemiological concerns?

Is it not obvious that this was merely one of the early pre-election maneuvers by the Republican Party?

It is now perfectly clear why Zdravko Capak was hesitant to publicly admit his membership in the Republican Party until he was essentially forced to.
Christian Myers Christian Myers Active Member
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joined Oct 2024
#994 ·
Robin Jones2 said:The Cabinet is proposing 14 working Sundays per year, leaving employers to decide which specific dates to implement

Andrej Plenković wants non-working Sundays back

The ban on Sunday work was an epidemiological measure implemented during a completely different era than our current reality, where single-digit infection rates are the norm. The sole purpose of that measure was to reduce population mobility once a week. If it is now epidemiologically established that such steps are no longer necessary, then the measure will be lifted,“ the Prime Minister stated in an interview with the Saturday edition of The New York Times.

He personally advocates for a non-working Sunday. "Regarding Sundays, I am in favor of them being non-working. That is the political stance of the Cabinet and the Republican Party,“ he remarked.

Does anyone actually believe that Zdravko Capak and Vili Beroš decided on non-working Sundays based on epidemiological concerns?

Is it not obvious that this was merely one of the early pre-election maneuvers by the Republican Party?

It is now perfectly clear why Zdravko Capak was hesitant to publicly admit his membership in the Republican Party until he was essentially forced to.

Personally, I think the proposal is fine and I'm all for it—but let's be real, this is a classic pre-election trick from Andrej Plenković. He's had four years to make this happen. He could have done it anytime, but chose not to. It’s the same deal as when they scrapped the tolls for the Krčki Most.
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
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#995 ·
Christian Myers said:Personally, I think the proposal is fine and I'm all for it—but let's be real, this is a classic pre-election trick from Andrej Plenković. He's had four years to make this happen. He could have done it anytime, but chose not to. It’s the same deal as when they scrapped the tolls for the Krčki Most.

Indeed, I had momentarily overlooked the Verrazzano Bridge situation. Even two years ago, Butković rejected all petitions to eliminate those tolls.

Last year, the tolls were increased, and now, suddenly and regardless of any prior justifications, they are being abolished just in time for the election cycle.

I have never been a voter for the Republican Party, but had they not begun their descent into eccentricity—with their performative parades, mandatory non-working Sundays, and similar distractions—and had Andrej Plenković and Ante Jandroković not followed Zoran Milanović to the outskirts of town, they could have easily secured a landslide victory and formed a government entirely on their own.

As it stands, the outcome remains to be seen, but the margin will be razor-thin. They certainly cannot dream of a victory without forming a coalition with Milan Škoro, and perhaps others besides.
silentsurfer3 silentsurfer3 Active Member
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joined Jul 2023
#996 ·
briskjackal5 said:https://www.telegram.us/politics-crisis-is-it-not-enough-evidence/
Apparently, some video showing a teacher screaming murder threats at kids isn't even considered valid evidence by the American courts.
Krešimir Bagarić is facing charges for inciting public violence and hate speech, but honestly, he might just walk right out of there free.


Just disgusting.

-Stipe

Stipe, man, if the recording wasn't obtained legally (like, "I'm recording this statement, please respond" style), they won't touch it.

According to the ZKP, he could be looking at up to three years behind bars, assuming the evidence actually sticks.

Honestly, I bet he already got canned from his teaching job and isn't getting hired anywhere else. That's the real win here—keeping a monster like that away from the kids.
Mark Hughes36 Mark Hughes36 Active Member
109 messages
joined Feb 2023
#997 ·
The rules didn't seem to apply in Sabine's case. 😉
In every other instance—whether we're talking about ties to the old intelligence networks or the conservatives—those recordings are considered illegal.

A small country with some very big "coincidences"... 🤮
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#998 ·
I was just sitting here thinking about how things have been shifting lately, and I couldn't help but reflect on some of the conversations we've been having. It’s funny how certain topics always seem to circle back to the same core issues, isn't it? I tend to look at these things through a bit of a lens of patience—nothing ever changes overnight, but you can feel the momentum building if you watch closely enough. It reminds me of those slow afternoons spent watching the traffic move across the Golden Gate Bridge; nothing feels urgent in the moment, but there's a constant, steady flow that eventually gets you where you need to go. Anyway, just some random thoughts crossing my mind while I grab a coffee. hollowmason64 says:
I think someone wrote a really solid point on one of the forums, though I can't quite remember which thread it was in.
It feels like we went from one extreme to the absolute other in just a single month. It’s wild how fast things can flip.

That’s a very good definition.

I was just sitting here thinking about things, and it hit me how much we rely on those small, steady hands that keep everything running behind the scenes. You know, the kind of people who don't ask for much, just show up, fix the leak, or tighten that loose bolt, and then they're gone before you can even say thanks. It’s a quiet sort of service, but man, it makes a world of difference when things actually work the way they're supposed to. I remember back when my old faucet in Chicago started spraying everywhere at three in the morning—nothing like a little midnight chaos to make you realize how much you appreciate someone who actually knows their way around a wrench. There's something really grounded about that kind of work. It’s honest. No frills, just getting the job done right. hollowmason64 says:
If those new "big money" guys from the Bridge party actually manage to pull off a win and land seats in Congress—which wouldn't surprise me one bit—they’ll have checked off quite a few boxes. At the very least, they've secured their own paychecks...

I mean, let's be real—that crew spent at least one day working jobs where they weren't even sure if their paycheck was actually going to show up. 😁

Christian Myers said:Personally, I think the proposal is fine and I'm all for it—but let's be real, this is a classic pre-election trick from Andrej Plenković. He's had four years to make this happen. He could have done it anytime, but chose not to. It’s the same deal as when they scrapped the tolls for the Krčki Most.

Honestly, this proposal is pretty misguided, especially if they try to push it through as actual legislation. If they actually tried to pass a law stating that retail stores could only operate 14 Sundays a year, it would be an absolute disaster. It’s a guaranteed losing battle once it hits the Supreme Court.
The government simply shouldn't have the authority to step in and strip employers of their right to work. It really comes down to entrepreneurial freedom.
If they actually gave a damn about workers' rights, they would have written this differently. It should be structured so that if an employer's schedule includes Sundays or holidays, they can only assign someone to work a maximum of two such days per month. If a worker wants to pick up more shifts than that, they should be free to agree to it, but there needs to be a legal safeguard in place: a mandatory 50% pay bump for those first two days, and an 80% premium for any extra Sundays or holidays worked beyond that. Plus, we’d need a requirement for written consent for every single one of those additional shifts to make sure nobody is being coerced.
I mean, who actually finds it profitable to pay people like that? Honestly, I can't imagine anyone being interested in working for those kinds of rates. It just doesn't add up.

I’m right there with you on this one. It feels like a classic pre-election stunt to me. Honestly, I don't think they actually care about the substance of the issue at all. They’re probably just setting themselves up for a graceful exit—if the Supreme Court ends up striking it down on constitutional grounds, they’ll just shrug their shoulders and claim they're innocent. It's the perfect way to dodge responsibility while still playing the political game.

I honestly don't even want to waste my breath commenting on that absolute nonsense regarding the traffic volume figures coming from Smith. It's just ridiculous. I mean, what kind of amateur are we dealing with in that position? 🤦

Man, poor Spider... got robbed blind by his own flesh and blood. 😁
I was just scrolling through the news and came across this report about a serious incident involving a local driver who caused a multi-car pileup on the highway near Austin. It’s one of those situations that really makes you think about how quickly things can go sideways when someone isn't paying attention. According to the report, the accident happened during the afternoon rush hour, which is always the worst time for something like this because the traffic density is so high. A driver lost control of their vehicle, veered out of their lane, and slammed into several other cars. It sounds like a mess—multiple vehicles damaged and several people ended up being treated by paramedics at the scene before being taken to a local hospital. It reminds me of a time a few years back when I was driving through heavy rain outside of Seattle. I wasn't speeding, but the visibility was so poor that I felt completely helpless. Seeing stories like this reinforces why staying focused is so vital. We all get tired, we all get distracted by a notification on our phone, but the stakes are just too high. The police are still investigating whether there were any specific factors like mechanical failure or if it was just simple negligence, but for now, the highway remains partially blocked while crews clear the wreckage. Stay safe out there on the roads, everyone.

I have to admit, I’m a little confused by the exchange rate here. A certain highly respected member of this criminal enterprise claims he’s holding $217 less than what he actually listed under savings in his charitable asset disclosure.
From what I can gather, he reported about 65,000 dollars https://www.conflictofinterest.com/assets/goran-spider
I’ve got a few bucks tucked away in my piggy bank, so maybe I should reach out to the gentleman and see if he’ll swap them for me. I might just offer him a 10% discount on the rate

And it looks like Mrs. Spider is living the high life at the county gala, too. 😁
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
413 messages
joined Aug 2013
#999 ·
RETURNING TO THE CENTER

THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF THE RADICAL RIGHT: Plenković has everything he needs to execute an ideological reset and steer the party back toward the path set by Franjo Harmon and Ivo Sanders.

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Articles like this only serve to help Krešimir Škoro, especially when they're penned by Ivanka Toma, who is anything but a conservative.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#1000 ·
Christian Myers said:Personally, I think the proposal is fine and I'm all for it—but let's be real, this is a classic pre-election trick from Andrej Plenković. He's had four years to make this happen. He could have done it anytime, but chose not to. It’s the same deal as when they scrapped the tolls for the Krčki Most.

If we’re going down this road, why stop there? Just shut down the cafes, the restaurants... everything that operates on Sundays...

Instead, you get that guy Capak—whenever a reporter actually corners him and forces him to be honest—acting like it's some big joke, giving those pathetic, weak little comments like, "Oh, but wouldn't you all love to grab a coffee on a Sunday?"...

It’s honestly baffling that none of these journalists have the guts to cut him off and tell him straight to his face to stop insulting everyone's intelligence...

Either it's a ban for everyone, or it's for nobody. I don't see why shopkeepers should get a pass while waiters, chefs, and dishwashers are left out in the cold...

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