Republican Party - General Discussion

Adam Collins4 said:If we’re going down this road, why stop there? Just shut down the cafes, the restaurants... everything that operates on Sundays...

Instead, you get that guy Capak—whenever a reporter actually corners him and forces him to be honest—acting like it's some big joke, giving those pathetic, weak little comments like, "Oh, but wouldn't you all love to grab a coffee on a Sunday?"...

It’s honestly baffling that none of these journalists have the guts to cut him off and tell him straight to his face to stop insulting everyone's intelligence...

Either it's a ban for everyone, or it's for nobody. I don't see why shopkeepers should get a pass while waiters, chefs, and dishwashers are left out in the cold...

Meanwhile, the party loyalists will have no trouble calling customer service on a Sunday afternoon to complain to some poor soul working for minimum wage in a sweltering, unairconditioned office—someone whose mobile data is crawling at 20 Mbps instead of the promised 30, and who probably had to carry their own lunch from home because the nearest grocery store was closed due to these restrictions.

Adam Collins4 said:If we’re going down this road, why stop there? Just shut down the cafes, the restaurants... everything that operates on Sundays...

Instead, you get that guy Capak—whenever a reporter actually corners him and forces him to be honest—acting like it's some big joke, giving those pathetic, weak little comments like, "Oh, but wouldn't you all love to grab a coffee on a Sunday?"...

It’s honestly baffling that none of these journalists have the guts to cut him off and tell him straight to his face to stop insulting everyone's intelligence...

Either it's a ban for everyone, or it's for nobody. I don't see why shopkeepers should get a pass while waiters, chefs, and dishwashers are left out in the cold...

I personally don't have an issue with it. They deserve a day off to relax and hang out with their families, too. If certain people are really that bothered by it, let's just hold a referendum and let the people decide—that way the outcome would actually be legitimate.

Carol Newman2 said:RETURNING TO THE CENTER

THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF THE RADICAL RIGHT: Plenković has everything he needs to execute an ideological reset and steer the party back toward the path set by Franjo Harmon and Ivo Sanders.

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Articles like this only serve to help Krešimir Škoro, especially when they're penned by Ivanka Toma, who is anything but a conservative.

Is she the same one who put Sanders on a pedestal? Because we all know how that turned out. That's exactly where Plenković is headed.

Christian Myers said:Is she the same one who put Sanders on a pedestal? Because we all know how that turned out. That's exactly where Plenković is headed.

Well, at least now you actually have a party worth voting for—Krešimir Škoro

Carol Newman2 said:RETURNING TO THE CENTER

THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF THE RADICAL RIGHT: Plenković has everything he needs to execute an ideological reset and steer the party back toward the path set by Franjo Harmon and Ivo Sanders.

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Articles like this only serve to help Krešimir Škoro, especially when they're penned by Ivanka Toma, who is anything but a conservative.

The window for such a move closed in Oakland, when Plenković allowed Medved to include figures wearing shirts with extremist slogans in official state protocols. In this regard, Ana Karamarko and her associates are irrelevant; judging by the comments, even those who would normally vote for the Republican Party agree that the legal targeting of Ana Karamarko is clearly timed to coincide with the elections.

Robin Jones2 said:In his interview, Bago Milanović stated he will wait for signatures, which effectively eliminates my speculation that he might decide to grant the mandate to the relative winner.

My takeaway is that he intends to allow sufficient time for discussions and negotiations so that someone might actually reach an agreement with others. He won't resort to threatening the appointment of a caretaker government or calling for new elections the way Kolinda did.

As for myself, I believe Restart could emerge as the relative winner, but the Republican Party will ultimately form the government. They possess a massive cash reserve to trade for representatives, the Democratic Party and Škoro are unthinkable in a coalition together while the Republican Party and Škoro are, and finally, the Republican Party holds a vast reservoir of intelligence from their quasi-intelligence underworld, coupled with having the most experience in this specific brand of politics.

The Republican Party is already busy buying off people who don't even realize yet that they'll be sitting on someone else's ticket.

Zoran Bernardić still holds a significant number of people from the former Milanović era. One shouldn't rule out the possibility that after the election, if a few chips are tossed onto the table, some of them might migrate toward the Republican Party.

And honestly, Bernardić has only himself to blame for that. He might destroy his party by doing so, but by keeping those Milanović loyalists—who have proven they simply follow the money—he is essentially digging his own grave...
Is it really such an unthinkable scenario that Petar Grbin, Grcic, Ostojic (both the tourist version and the cop one), and the rest of that crew would jump ship to the Republican Party? It doesn't seem that far-fetched to me. Especially when you consider how many insignificant little players there are in the Democratic Party—people like Saucha, who could be bought for the price of a bag of groceries.

Christian Myers said:I personally don't have an issue with it. They deserve a day off to relax and hang out with their families, too. If certain people are really that bothered by it, let's just hold a referendum and let the people decide—that way the outcome would actually be legitimate.

Most workers get one day off, and some even get two.

So, the whole premise that "even retail clerks need a day off" is fundamentally flawed and, frankly, quite silly.

It’s just as foolish to keep dragging out this debate over "non-working Sundays" right on the eve of the elections. Why aren't they bringing up the topic of "reducing the number of federal employees" instead?

Think about it: if they actually pass this non-working Sunday rule, the private sector will likely end up laying off roughly 20,000 people, while the public sector stays exactly as it is—or maybe even grows. And isn't that precisely what we're trying to achieve?

Gary Cooper3 said:
Zoran Bernardić still retains a massive share of the old Zoran Milanović faction. One shouldn't rule out the possibility that after the elections, if a few chips are thrown on the table, some of them might jump ship to the Republican Party.

Bernardić is entirely responsible for that situation himself. He might destroy his party by doing so, but by keeping those loyal to Milanović—who have proven they simply follow the money wherever it leads—he is essentially digging his own grave.
Is it truly so inconceivable that Petar Grbin, Grcic, Ostojic (both the tourist one and even the police officer Ostojic) and their crew migrate to the Republican Party? It doesn't seem impossible to me. And when you consider how many insignificant little representatives there are in the Democratic Party, like Saucha, who could be bought for the price of a bag of groceries.

Look, theoretically, anything is possible—even Bernardić defecting to the Republican Party along with the entire Democratic Party. Theoretically, the entire Republican Party could switch to the Democratic Party; I could actually envision that scenario if the Democratic Party had as much cash as the Republican Party does. As for how much money the Republican Party possesses, just look at Governor Pauk; let someone here step forward if they don't have several tens of thousands of dollars in cash sitting in their house.

They say everyone has a price. Some people can be bought with money, some with ideals, and others through blackmail.

Ultimately, this is all part of how democracy and the rule of law function. In America, the judicial system and the mechanisms of enforcement are incredibly weak and dysfunctional, which is why the only person ever convicted of political corruption was the former mayor of El Paso, Sabo.

On the other hand, we have an entire session of the US Congress and the Administration resting upon blatant examples of political corruption. It is difficult to expect better when we once had a District Attorney who sat in the same lodge as a group that serves as a symbol of both political and common, petty, thieving corruption.

My point is that what you are describing is certainly possible, but it is possible with any individual.

I consider myself an honest man, someone who cannot be bribed, yet even I wouldn't bet my life on what I would do if someone placed, say, a million dollars in cash on the table, untraceable and tax-free.

Where do you guys think the Republican Party actually sits on the political spectrum when you look at where we were under Franjo Harmon, Ivo Sanders, and Tomislav Karamarko?

Robin Jones2 said:Look, theoretically, anything is possible—even Bernardić defecting to the Republican Party along with the entire Democratic Party. Theoretically, the entire Republican Party could switch to the Democratic Party; I could actually envision that scenario if the Democratic Party had as much cash as the Republican Party does. As for how much money the Republican Party possesses, just look at Governor Pauk; let someone here step forward if they don't have several tens of thousands of dollars in cash sitting in their house.

They say everyone has a price. Some people can be bought with money, some with ideals, and others through blackmail.

Ultimately, this is all part of how democracy and the rule of law function. In America, the judicial system and the mechanisms of enforcement are incredibly weak and dysfunctional, which is why the only person ever convicted of political corruption was the former mayor of El Paso, Sabo.

On the other hand, we have an entire session of the US Congress and the Administration resting upon blatant examples of political corruption. It is difficult to expect better when we once had a District Attorney who sat in the same lodge as a group that serves as a symbol of both political and common, petty, thieving corruption.

My point is that what you are describing is certainly possible, but it is possible with any individual.

I consider myself an honest man, someone who cannot be bribed, yet even I wouldn't bet my life on what I would do if someone placed, say, a million dollars in cash on the table, untraceable and tax-free.

If Zoran Bernardić had attempted to truly reform the Democratic Party—meaning a fundamental cleansing of its own filth regarding those tied to Zoran Milanović and those who resisted him while the party was collapsing—then perhaps I wouldn't fear such scenarios today.
I don't believe for a second that there aren't at least a hundred people within the Democratic Party who wouldn't sell themselves to the Republican Party for even a hundred bucks. I have personally named those individuals whom I am quite certain would jump ship if given the chance.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for a blanket purge of the entire opposition within the party; in fact, I think it was a positive move to leave people like Borzanica or Holy in place since they were constantly challenging him—it's clear they won't run to the Republican Party.

But no one—absolutely no one—can convince me that guys like Ostojic, Grcic, and Petar wouldn't flip to the Republican Party for a sack of potatoes, much like Milanka or Saucha.

Gary Cooper3 said:If Zoran Bernardić had attempted to truly reform the Democratic Party—meaning a fundamental cleansing of its own filth regarding those tied to Zoran Milanović and those who resisted him while the party was collapsing—then perhaps I wouldn't fear such scenarios today.
I don't believe for a second that there aren't at least a hundred people within the Democratic Party who wouldn't sell themselves to the Republican Party for even a hundred bucks. I have personally named those individuals whom I am quite certain would jump ship if given the chance.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for a blanket purge of the entire opposition within the party; in fact, I think it was a positive move to leave people like Borzanica or Holy in place since they were constantly challenging him—it's clear they won't run to the Republican Party.

But no one—absolutely no one—can convince me that guys like Ostojic, Grcic, and Petar wouldn't flip to the Republican Party for a sack of potatoes, much like Milanka or Saucha.

I am unsure why a question about reforming the Democratic Party has surfaced in a thread regarding the Republican Party, but regardless, the logic applies to any political organization.

Joe Biden inherited the party in its current state, along with its existing personnel. He has definitively shaped the Democratic Party into the second most powerful political force in America, trailing only the Republican Party.

When people use the word "reform," I interpret it as "revolution." You cannot achieve sustained political shifts and progress through a series of constant revolutions. Revolutions are rare, occur only under extraordinary circumstances, and invariably carry both destructive and constructive consequences.

Franjo Harmon had a singular, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to build an America that was fundamentally different from what it became and different from its existence under America.

Had Harmon been more decisive in rejecting the legacy of far-right extremism and fascism (the emigré elements, Susurrus, etc.), and had he remained consistent in opposing corruption (such as his daughter’s duty-free business, his son’s firm Home LLC, or his grandson’s banking interests), the nation would have still won its war for independence, but it would look entirely different today—and significantly better than it does now.

As it stands, the byproduct of Harmon's flawed judgments and stances is a modern landscape defined by pervasive corruption, nepotism, partisan meritocracy, and the moral relativism of extremist ideologies.

Regarding Bernardi: he inherited the Democratic Party as it was, and he continues to manage it as it is. Bernardi is not tasked with, nor should he attempt, a revolution within the Democratic Party; he is simply picking up where Joe Biden left off, working with the hand he was dealt. His responsibility is to utilize his current roster effectively for the good of the party, while gradually introducing new talent aligned with his own vision and strategic goals.

Those who rely on and peddle overnight, simplistic solutions—calling them "revolutions"—are usually standing on very thin ice and are frequently mistaken.

Personally, I have no faith in those offering quick fixes, as such promises suggest they have never managed a truly complex process, project, or systemic structure (take, for example, groups like Most, Kolakušić, Škoro, and their ilk). Achieving long-term objectives requires vision and grueling, relentless labor.

As for the core issue at hand—whether the Republican Party will buy off representatives from other parties—the solution isn't for every leader in America to struggle to find incorruptible staff. There isn't a soul on this planet without a price. The real solution lies in building a system capable of detecting and punishing all forms of corruption, including political graft.

Robin Jones2 said:The window for such a move closed in Oakland, when Plenković allowed Medved to include figures wearing shirts with extremist slogans in official state protocols. In this regard, Ana Karamarko and her associates are irrelevant; judging by the comments, even those who would normally vote for the Republican Party agree that the legal targeting of Ana Karamarko is clearly timed to coincide with the elections.

The Republican Party is heading for a total wipeout, which is actually the exact opposite of what Ivanka Toma—who, by the way, leans pretty far left—is suggesting.

The left-wing crowd is NEVER going to swing behind the "moderate right" that the Republican Party tries to project. They lost their grip on the right wing once they split off with the Liberal Party, Pupovac, Kuscevica, and those groups from Marrakesh/Istanbul, and no amount of stuff happening in Oakhaven is going to fix that. They miscalculated; in this modern era of instant information, they can't just rely on a massive pool of uninformed voters like they used to.

silentsurfer3 said:Where do you guys think the Republican Party actually sits on the political spectrum when you look at where we were under Franjo Harmon, Ivo Sanders, and Tomislav Karamarko?

The Republican Party is basically just a standard-issue stronghold for the absolute worst, filthiest, most regressive kind of cronyism. I wouldn't dream of comparing them to any halfway decent political option; they're a dinosaur that's eventually going to choke on its own filth.

Two quick corrections to what I said earlier:
Saucha wasn't just bought—he was coerced. We all know his deciding vote is the only reason he isn't currently sitting in a cell at a federal penitentiary. It’s been four years of this administration, and there hasn't been a single verdict. We all know how broken our justice system is, but this is the most blatant case of criminal activity in American politics, and yet, zero consequences.

As for the legacy of Franjo Harmon—much of the rot we see in today's corruption can be traced back to his era, but that was twenty years ago. For everything that happened after he passed, we can only blame those who inherited his mantle—people who essentially earned doctorates in corruption. To be fair, it helps them that they always keep "Franjo" on their lips as a convenient excuse, even though most of them couldn't care less about his actual values. But hey, it plays well at the ballot box.

copperdrifter26 said:The Republican Party is heading for a total wipeout, which is actually the exact opposite of what Ivanka Toma—who, by the way, leans pretty far left—is suggesting.

The left-wing crowd is NEVER going to swing behind the "moderate right" that the Republican Party tries to project. They lost their grip on the right wing once they split off with the Liberal Party, Pupovac, Kuscevica, and those groups from Marrakesh/Istanbul, and no amount of stuff happening in Oakhaven is going to fix that. They miscalculated; in this modern era of instant information, they can't just rely on a massive pool of uninformed voters like they used to.

The Republican Party is basically just a standard-issue stronghold for the absolute worst, filthiest, most regressive kind of cronyism. I wouldn't dream of comparing them to any halfway decent political option; they're a dinosaur that's eventually going to choke on its own filth.

I agree with your general sentiment, though I suspect you're being far too optimistic about them choking on their own mess. They won't—they simply won't—even if the economy sinks straight to the bottom under their watch this fall.
As long as the education system remains what it is here in America, they can push through whatever "cleansing" they desire without much resistance. They could even swing Škoro into a leadership role, or Pupovac for all I care... they'll always command a reliable 15 to 20% of the vote.

silentsurfer3 said:Where do you guys think the Republican Party actually sits on the political spectrum when you look at where we were under Franjo Harmon, Ivo Sanders, and Tomislav Karamarko?

🤔 Which ones exactly? Based on this, they don't seem to have any connection to the Republican Party at all. A look back at where the Republican Party started. A bit of history here.

Charles Fox10 said:🤔 Which ones exactly? Based on this, they don't seem to have any connection to the Republican Party at all. A look back at where the Republican Party started. A bit of history here.

Alright, 🤣let's 🤣settle
this.
The reason I asked is—look—if the Republican Party stays close enough to the center, we could be looking at a massive coalition once the elections wrap up. 😁

If the President decides to drop those big fishing industry lobbyists from the platform, he’s going to lose a massive chunk of voters—something he might not even realize yet.

TOTAL CHAOS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! Joe Biden is signing our political death warrant: We are going to lose the election and things are about to get messy!

”The party leadership's popularity is cratering, and we find ourselves under constant fire from the media, the public, and the opposition, which creates a level of pressure that is honestly becoming quite difficult to manage. On top of that, Joe Biden is having a really hard time putting together candidate lists because he is just so stubborn and self-centered; he insists on 'refreshing' the party by pushing people onto the ballots who are completely unknown to voters, or folks who might have some standing within the party but carry absolutely zero influence with the general public, and that could end up being a massive mistake for us,” remarks an insider from the ruling party who is particularly worried about the Republican Party's ability to build a winning coalition.

He goes on to mention how Joe Biden keeps clashing with Donald Trump, which he feels is the last thing the Republican Party needs right now.

“We won't be able to form a government without him,” our source says, adding that the Patriot Movement is essentially the only remaining potential partner left for the Republican Party to work with.

“Unless, of course, we decide to go into a coalition with the Democratic Party, though that would effectively be political suicide for the Republican Party. I don't think anyone inside the party would ever agree to that because it would be an unprecedented scandal, yet Joe Biden isn't shying away from the idea at all. If he was willing to play ball with the Liberal Party before, then apparently nothing is off the table if it means staying in power,” the source suggests, noting that the Republican Party is going to face serious uphill battles in the Midwest and even down in California.

‘We’ve sidelined the heavy hitters, and now we’re picking candidates based on friendship’

”Joe Biden isn't counting on Mike Pence anymore; in the Midwest, he’s pushing Eric Adams, and Robert Byrd is out of the picture, while Ron DeSantis has been pushed aside, and we are going to pay dearly for those decisions. We're also going to run into trouble in California because, besides Mike Pompeo, we just don't have any strong leaders there. During the last cycle, Penny Pritzker was a fantastic choice, but now they are leaning on Richard Nixon and Newt Gingrich,” says the insider, emphasizing that this whole situation is headed toward a total catastrophe.

He adds that the people being chosen might hold some sway within the party circles, but they actually create a rift with the voters and inspire nothing but contempt; the public simply doesn't respect or sympathize with them.

“We’ve even written off George W. Bush, and now everything is being decided by who is friends with whom; Joe Biden is just loading the lists with his favorites and the party's 'rising stars.' He did the exact same thing during the European elections, and then we acted surprised when we barely managed to scrape by for another term. Look, young people are great, but they aren't the ones who win elections; we need recognizable faces, our heavy hitters. Ted Cruz used to handle this correctly by putting people on the ballot whom he believed could actually win, whereas Joe Biden is just pushing people he gets along with or people he thinks will be useful to the party in the long run, and that is going to turn into a major problem,” the source concludes.

They’re basically setting him up to fail. Andrej Plenković just went on record saying the Republican Party won't be teaming up with Milanović, and that he’s more than welcome to go play nice with the Democratic Party instead.

I honestly have no clue what kind of numbers he’s looking at. Where is he even getting his data? I can't wrap my head around the math he thinks he needs to actually put a government together.

And man, if those idiots in the Republican Party actually believe their "rising stars" are the ones to blame for these results, they’re living in a fantasy land. It’s definitely not the fact that raising hands is making the Cabinet, the Liberal Party, Saucha, SSD, Marrakesh, or Istanbul fall apart... nope, it must totally be the fault of the young recruits. 🤦

The Republican Party just unveiled its slate of candidates for the 7th congressional district, and you’ll find Maja Grb Bujević right there on the list

http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a512310...a-Bujevic.html