Republican Party - General Discussion

Nicholas King said:Actually, I’d argue that those fifteen ministerial departures are primarily the fault of the media.

I mean, news outlets have always been digging up all sorts of scandals, right? But honestly, the political elite used to just shrug off public pressure without blinking an eye, so actual resignations were pretty rare.

We saw a perfect example back in 2015 when the press blew the lid off that scandal involving Minister Cronin. The old guard over at the Republican Party reacted exactly how they always do—by trying to sweep it under the rug. It wasn't until a third-party outsider actually stepped up and issued a real ultimatum that the minister finally lost his seat.

If the Republican Party had been running things solo back then, Cronin would probably still be sitting in that office today, don't you think?

Calling the old coalition—"Lajos Petrov, his family, friends, and the naive"—or the current one—"Lajos Petrov, his family, friends, and the Raspudić mercenaries"—a "third option" is an insult to anyone with common sense.

They aren't an alternative; they are just supplementary or substitute options for the corrupt deep-state establishment, all working toward the "holy" goal of steering that same corrupt establishment back onto the right track.

These people can't even conceive of governing this country without basing the entire administration on a reformed version of that same corrupt deep-state machine. Most of the prominent members of this coalition and their voters wouldn't feel comfortable unless that specific power structure was in charge—mostly because they equate anything else with being "un-American" or communist. 😉

Nicholas King said:Actually, I’d argue that those fifteen ministerial departures are primarily the fault of the media.

Wrong. It’s mostly just the result of internal fighting within the Republican Party.

dustymarlin10 said:Yeah, I bet she's just bursting with family pride.

I wouldn't wish that on any mother. Their father makes a complete fool of himself in public, but the mother isn't a public figure.

granitetinker6 said:I mean, news outlets have always been digging up all sorts of scandals, right? But honestly, the political elite used to just shrug off public pressure without blinking an eye, so actual resignations were pretty rare.

We saw a perfect example back in 2015 when the press blew the lid off that scandal involving Minister Cronin. The old guard over at the Republican Party reacted exactly how they always do—by trying to sweep it under the rug. It wasn't until a third-party outsider actually stepped up and issued a real ultimatum that the minister finally lost his seat.

If the Republican Party had been running things solo back then, Cronin would probably still be sitting in that office today, don't you think?

Funny how you "accidentally" forgot that most of those ministers either resigned or were kicked out long after that incompetent mess in Moesta managed to clean house themselves...

But hey, I won't get bogged down in the weeds...

Arthur Collins3 said:Not a single minister or CEO of a state agency has ever been convicted of corruption or abuse of power. That’s just how our justice system works—it’s the same broken machine where the DNC picks the heads of the judicial council based on whatever the majority party wants. 😁

Honestly, whenever the Republican Party or the Democratic Party gets their hands on a part of the system to tinker with, the whole thing turns into a complete train wreck, starting all the way up with the Supreme Court. Both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are just looking out for their own narrow political interests, aren't they?

That’s exactly why we're hearing Andrej Plenković today claiming that while we can talk about changing the Election Law, the decision should stay in the hands of politicians rather than being put to a public referendum.

It also explains why the only people actually talking about beefing up the powers of the Ethics Committee are those third-party candidates—sorry if I've got that wrong!

Meanwhile, the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are the ones desperately trying to strip away oversight because anything that limits their power is such a massive thorn in their side.

Adam Collins4 said:Funny how you "accidentally" forgot that most of those ministers either resigned or were kicked out long after that incompetent mess in Moesta managed to clean house themselves...

But hey, I won't get bogged down in the weeds...

Oh, I didn't forget a single thing.

We're talking about specific things that actually happened during a certain timeframe, and more importantly, we're looking at the fallout from those events in the period that followed.

granitetinker6 said:Oh, I didn't forget a single thing.

We're talking about specific things that actually happened during a certain timeframe, and more importantly, we're looking at the fallout from those events in the period that followed.

Consequences don't just exist because you claim they do...

If you want to talk consequences, you need to actually argue them—prove them, connect the dots back to what happened previously...

So, give it another shot...😉

The old tricks—this whole "new situation, new rules" routine—don't work here...

Especially when, under Plenković, we've seen 15 different cabinet members cycled through, including three "geniuses" from the Republican Party circus who basically fired themselves, even though that was clearly the dumbest move they could have made...

granitetinker6 said:I mean, news outlets have always been digging up all sorts of scandals, right? But honestly, the political elite used to just shrug off public pressure without blinking an eye, so actual resignations were pretty rare.

We saw a perfect example back in 2015 when the press blew the lid off that scandal involving Minister Cronin. The old guard over at the Republican Party reacted exactly how they always do—by trying to sweep it under the rug. It wasn't until a third-party outsider actually stepped up and issued a real ultimatum that the minister finally lost his seat.

If the Republican Party had been running things solo back then, Cronin would probably still be sitting in that office today, don't you think?

Well, if they hadn't been in power, he wouldn't have become a minister at all—partly thanks to those little hands raised by the Moesta faction.

Samuel Bennett60 said:Wrong. It’s mostly just the result of internal fighting within the Republican Party.

Nah, I don't think so.

Back in the day, the Republican Party used to shake things up with internal infighting so intense that what we're seeing now feels like child's play compared to those old-school political dramas.

But even then, you had cabinet members standing their ground against all kinds of pressure and clinging to their seats despite whatever scandals were flying around.

Now that third-party movements are finally gaining some actual traction, I realized I totally glossed over another huge factor that helped raise the bar when it comes to our political culture and general accountability.

I'm talking about joining the European Union, which basically forced us to adopt a whole new set of rules and systems; if I recall correctly, it was through those accession procedures that the Ethics Committee was actually established in the first place.

Adam Collins4

Nicholas King said:Well, if they hadn't been in power, he wouldn't have become a minister at all—partly thanks to those little hands raised by the Moesta faction.

Look, let's not get bogged down in the weeds right now...☕

Nicholas King said:Well, if they hadn't been in power, he wouldn't have become a minister at all—partly thanks to those little hands raised by the Moesta faction.

Honestly, if the Bridge-related party had actually known about this scandal, he would never have made it into a cabinet position.

I mean, let's be real here: the Bridge-related group isn't the Socialist Workers Party, they aren't the Department of Justice, and they certainly aren't some high-end private detective agency—plus, as far as I know, they don't exactly carry crystal balls around, right? So, they could only really step in once the whole mess was blown wide open to the public.

The whole argument just doesn't hold water, much like how it makes zero sense for someone to claim that the Index-related exposé wasn't a big deal; if they were actually legitimate, honest journalists, wouldn't they have sniffed out the scandal way before Black ever stepped into that ministerial role?

granitetinker6 said:Honestly, if the Bridge-related party had actually known about this scandal, he would never have made it into a cabinet position.

I mean, let's be real here: the Bridge-related group isn't the Socialist Workers Party, they aren't the Department of Justice, and they certainly aren't some high-end private detective agency—plus, as far as I know, they don't exactly carry crystal balls around, right? So, they could only really step in once the whole mess was blown wide open to the public.

The whole argument just doesn't hold water, much like how it makes zero sense for someone to claim that the Index-related exposé wasn't a big deal; if they were actually legitimate, honest journalists, wouldn't they have sniffed out the scandal way before Black ever stepped into that ministerial role?

😁

Adam Collins4 said:Consequences don't just exist because you claim they do...

If you want to talk consequences, you need to actually argue them—prove them, connect the dots back to what happened previously...

So, give it another shot...😉

The old tricks—this whole "new situation, new rules" routine—don't work here...

Especially when, under Plenković, we've seen 15 different cabinet members cycled through, including three "geniuses" from the Republican Party circus who basically fired themselves, even though that was clearly the dumbest move they could have made...

But that's a whole other story altogether.

The way they try to amplify the impact and create this massive effect sometimes results in numbers that include ministers who weren't even involved in a single scandal.

I can't quite remember if Kovačić was one of those 15, but if I recall correctly, he actually turned in his own resignation, right?

Nicholas King said:Well, if they hadn't been in power, he wouldn't have become a minister at all—partly thanks to those little hands raised by the Moesta faction.

Honestly, if you’re trying to figure out how the Republican Party actually operates, you don't need an analyst... you basically just need a crystal ball. 😁

All those folks like Marić, Tolušić, Žalac, and the rest of the Republican Party 6.0 squad—I mean, who could have possibly seen that coming?

-briskjackal5

granitetinker6 said:Honestly, if the Bridge-related party had actually known about this scandal, he would never have made it into a cabinet position.

I mean, let's be real here: the Bridge-related group isn't the Socialist Workers Party, they aren't the Department of Justice, and they certainly aren't some high-end private detective agency—plus, as far as I know, they don't exactly carry crystal balls around, right? So, they could only really step in once the whole mess was blown wide open to the public.

The whole argument just doesn't hold water, much like how it makes zero sense for someone to claim that the Index-related exposé wasn't a big deal; if they were actually legitimate, honest journalists, wouldn't they have sniffed out the scandal way before Black ever stepped into that ministerial role?

...but it *was* out in the open—and by whom, exactly? Was it the CIA, the FBI, some high-priced private investigators, or perhaps just the predictions of that Jazzera prophetess?

Nicholas King said:...but it *was* out in the open—and by whom, exactly? Was it the CIA, the FBI, some high-priced private investigators, or perhaps just the predictions of that Jazzera prophetess?

You make a fair point there, my friend, so please accept my apologies.

I totally missed mentioning that the Bridge isn't really the kind of media outlet where you find deep investigative journalists digging around.

So, no matter how you look at it, the Bridge just wasn't in a position to have those kinds of resources at their disposal, which means they wouldn't have had any way of knowing about this story before it started blowing up in the public eye, right?

briskjackal5 said:Honestly, if you’re trying to figure out how the Republican Party actually operates, you don't need an analyst... you basically just need a crystal ball. 😁

All those folks like Marić, Tolušić, Žalac, and the rest of the Republican Party 6.0 squad—I mean, who could have possibly seen that coming?

-briskjackal5

It actually makes total sense when you think about it, because since we can pretty much guess how the HSDPZ is going to behave once they're in power, isn't it just logical to jump at every single chance to grab a slice of that authority and make sure they don't end up running the show entirely on their own whim?

As long as we're stuck with a reality where you can't even put a government together without the HSDPZ, doesn't that change everything?

Nicholas King said:In my humble opinion, the rising number of infections isn't exactly helping the Republican Party's image right now.

And honestly—it seems like Andrej Plenković can’t stop repeating those "we beat the virus" lines.

Are you sure about that? I mean, really? The more they talk about "infections," the more people focus on COVID instead of Rimcev, those wind farms, and all their shady dealings. A higher number of cases just gives them an excuse to roll out even more repressive measures—it might even let them push back the elections. Just look at the news headlines. COVID is the top story everywhere, while the absolute disaster involving Rimcev feels like it happened months ago. Now, they’ll probably put someone popular like Beros or Markoticka front and center, while the others stay buried in the background. It’s always the same: using "public safety" as a convenient facade to hide the looting and the scandals.

Do you honestly think psychopaths won't exploit a "crisis" just to rig an election?

The borders with Canada and Mexico remain wide open, and the infection rates are climbing. If this keeps up, the summer tourism season is dead in the water, and we’re all going to be in deep trouble.
Malicious types might suggest this is tied to the elections and those bus routes. It's all just a play to keep the Party and the European in power; they don't care about the cost.