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Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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joined Aug 2013
#1581 ·
Nina Plenkovic

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steelfox98 steelfox98 Active Member
128 messages
joined Mar 2023
#1582 ·
David Clark4 said:Are you sure about that? I mean, really? The more they talk about "infections," the more people focus on COVID instead of Rimcev, those wind farms, and all their shady dealings. A higher number of cases just gives them an excuse to roll out even more repressive measures—it might even let them push back the elections. Just look at the news headlines. COVID is the top story everywhere, while the absolute disaster involving Rimcev feels like it happened months ago. Now, they’ll probably put someone popular like Beros or Markoticka front and center, while the others stay buried in the background. It’s always the same: using "public safety" as a convenient facade to hide the looting and the scandals.

Do you honestly think psychopaths won't exploit a "crisis" just to rig an election?

I think you're wrong to worry about the scandals. Over the last four years, there have been so many that nobody even remembers who stole what last week.
Sanders's administration looks like a model of integrity by comparison.
Jose Collins86 Jose Collins86 Member
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joined Feb 2020
#1583 ·
Kolinda is dragging their approval ratings down.
copperdrifter26 copperdrifter26 Active Member
53 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1584 ·
Mark Hughes36 said:Calling the old coalition—"Lajos Petrov, his family, friends, and the naive"—or the current one—"Lajos Petrov, his family, friends, and the Raspudić mercenaries"—a "third option" is an insult to anyone with common sense.

They aren't an alternative; they are just supplementary or substitute options for the corrupt deep-state establishment, all working toward the "holy" goal of steering that same corrupt establishment back onto the right track.

These people can't even conceive of governing this country without basing the entire administration on a reformed version of that same corrupt deep-state machine. Most of the prominent members of this coalition and their voters wouldn't feel comfortable unless that specific power structure was in charge—mostly because they equate anything else with being "un-American" or communist. 😉

Well said, young comrade! If you ask me, the only real "third option" out there is Rad Boric and the Workers' Front, which would probably just lead to even more government interference in everyone's wallets.
Nicholas King said:Well, if they hadn't been in power, he wouldn't have become a minister at all—partly thanks to those little hands raised by the Moesta faction.

And who else would be in charge? The Democratic Party under Milanovic, who was looking to strip them down individually?
Mark Hughes36 Mark Hughes36 Active Member
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#1585 ·
copperdrifter26 said:Well said, young comrade! If you ask me, the only real "third option" out there is Rad Boric and the Workers' Front, which would probably just lead to even more government interference in everyone's wallets.

And who else would be in charge? The Democratic Party under Milanovic, who was looking to strip them down individually?

The Workers' Front could act as an alternative or a supplement to other options, mostly serving to fix whatever mess the "social democrats" in the Democratic Party leave behind.

A third way might be liberal (since the HSLS hasn't been the liberal force it once was in America) or centrist (maybe something like a moderate movement). It shouldn't be more Christian Democrat than the nationalist-leaning first option, nor more nationalist than that same group—that should be self-evident.

By sticking to such a binary 😉 view, you've perfectly proven my point about why certain voters "don't feel comfortable when a corrupt, old-school establishment isn't in power." 😉
copperdrifter26 copperdrifter26 Active Member
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#1586 ·
Mark Hughes36 said:The Workers' Front could act as an alternative or a supplement to other options, mostly serving to fix whatever mess the "social democrats" in the Democratic Party leave behind.

A third way might be liberal (since the HSLS hasn't been the liberal force it once was in America) or centrist (maybe something like a moderate movement). It shouldn't be more Christian Democrat than the nationalist-leaning first option, nor more nationalist than that same group—that should be self-evident.

By sticking to such a binary 😉 view, you've perfectly proven my point about why certain voters "don't feel comfortable when a corrupt, old-school establishment isn't in power." 😉

I think you might be overthinking this one just a little bit. Honestly, suggesting that a group advocating for the direct theft of private funds—you know, that whole "redistribution" nonsense they push along party lines—could somehow serve as a corrective measure for the Democratic Party’s brand of social democracy is, quite frankly, pure idiocy.

Looking back at your posts, I’ve noticed you seem really eager to define exactly what the right wing should look like. You seem to be searching for a version of the Right League that acts as a direct counterbalance to the Democratic Party's social democrats—basically a conservative version of the Workers' Front. But honestly, I don't think any iteration of the Right League could ever truly pull that off; they just aren't radical enough to play that role.
Patrick Cook Patrick Cook Member
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#1587 ·
The third option really ought to be a "protest" movement—maybe even a one-dimensional one, kind of like how the Bridge party used to sell their whole narrative because they were being puppeted by some high-priced PR agency. Of course, the core trio had their own vision in their heads, regardless of what those other 16 nobodies were thinking.

I'm talking about a laser focus on the economy—cutting waste, restructuring everything, and actually implementing real capitalism.
And we need to run the government like a corporation. By that, I mean the entire system, the procedures, and the actual functions should be so well-organized and automated that even total mediocrities could look like they know what they're doing.

Once that's sorted out—give it maybe 10 to 15 years—then you guys can go right back to bickering about abortions, gay marriage, fascists, communists, and all that other nonsense.
Mark Hughes36 Mark Hughes36 Active Member
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#1588 ·
copperdrifter26 said:I think you might be overthinking this one just a little bit. Honestly, suggesting that a group advocating for the direct theft of private funds—you know, that whole "redistribution" nonsense they push along party lines—could somehow serve as a corrective measure for the Democratic Party’s brand of social democracy is, quite frankly, pure idiocy.

Looking back at your posts, I’ve noticed you seem really eager to define exactly what the right wing should look like. You seem to be searching for a version of the Right League that acts as a direct counterbalance to the Democratic Party's social democrats—basically a conservative version of the Workers' Front. But honestly, I don't think any iteration of the Right League could ever truly pull that off; they just aren't radical enough to play that role.

For thirty years now, they've branded every social democrat as a communist. 😉 Are we really expecting them to admit those were just campaign lies? 😉

Comparing the seizure of private assets to a middle finger is a fair assessment. 😉

What actual criticisms have the social democrats faced from the left all these years? 😉

copperdrifter26 said:I think you might be overthinking this one just a little bit. Honestly, suggesting that a group advocating for the direct theft of private funds—you know, that whole "redistribution" nonsense they push along party lines—could somehow serve as a corrective measure for the Democratic Party’s brand of social democracy is, quite frankly, pure idiocy.

Looking back at your posts, I’ve noticed you seem really eager to define exactly what the right wing should look like. You seem to be searching for a version of the Right League that acts as a direct counterbalance to the Democratic Party's social democrats—basically a conservative version of the Workers' Front. But honestly, I don't think any iteration of the Right League could ever truly pull that off; they just aren't radical enough to play that role.

Since such a force doesn't exist, the American right is mostly filled with fringe parties, varying in their courage to actually come out of the closet.
😉

Personally, I wouldn't mind a civilized Christian Democratic party on the center-right, though I could never bring myself to vote for one. Such a party would carry the heavy burden of calming the public discourse and ending the endless verbal civil war that has exhausted us for three decades.

I can't stand people who obsess over other people's business, bank accounts, or beds (to say nothing of race or religion), yet most on the right wouldn't even exist without those obsessions.

Those further right than an energized center-right tend to be driven by negativity. I don't know if they admit it to themselves, but watching them publicly call for their "great loves" is tragicomic, given how transparently hateful they actually are.
Amanda Kim2 Amanda Kim2 Member
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joined Apr 2023
#1589 ·
He’s a pro at selling smoke and mirrors—definitely got potential!

Malenica: We’re cutting local officials in half, that's a promise.
"We’re promising to trim down the number of ministries, slash the amount of local officials, and do whatever it takes to make public administration actually work efficiently. We'll push digitalization down to the local level and link all local bodies and agencies with central state registries, plus tons of services, apps, and platforms," Malenica said during the "Digital America" press conference.

By the end of this term, we'll have digital signatures rolled out for the entire USA and the whole public sector.
George Lewis4 George Lewis4 Newcomer
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joined May 2020
#1590 ·
It’s time to turn our backs on the Republican Party. They’ve had way too much time in power, making endless promises they never actually delivered on. It’s either pure incompetence or a total lack of political will—honestly, I’m leaning towards the latter. And let's be real, they probably won't even answer for it because local Republican elites are likely breathing down their necks to prevent any actual change.

The departures are always pretty depressing to watch, but the Republican Party needs to become a marginal player. They already have a backup plan ready where current members can just pivot to a new platform under Donald Trump, while everyone else—like Ivo Sanders, Tomislav Karamarko, or Jadranka Kosor—can just fade into retirement...
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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joined Aug 2013
#1591 ·
They’re running wild, making death threats, and smashing things, yet nobody seems able to stop them. This is the Đakić family for you.

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It’s stories like this that make me stick with BuzzFeed. 🙏

Get this—the father of these losers is actually the second-in-command for the Republican Party in the regional district near St. Louis. So, basically, the guy is one of the top leaders for the Republican Party in that entire area.
Rachel Turner2 Rachel Turner2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2022
#1592 ·
Quincey:

DJTcro says:

Look at this. Their old man is basically number two on the Republican Party ticket for the Midwest region. So yeah, this guy is one of the top brass for the Republican Party in that neck of the woods.

No wonder he’s trying so hard to make sure his kids follow in those Republican Party footsteps. Just a bunch of little punks looking for trouble. Always sticking their greasy hands in every pie they can find.
Edward Lee7 Edward Lee7 Member
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joined May 2024
#1593 ·
So he has three sons, including Dac,

and all three ended up being picked up by the police, one way or another, right?

☕
Matthew Booth Matthew Booth Member
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joined Mar 2023
#1594 ·
Carol Newman2 said:They’re running wild, making death threats, and smashing things, yet nobody seems able to stop them. This is the Đakić family for you.

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It’s stories like this that make me stick with BuzzFeed. 🙏

Get this—the father of these losers is actually the second-in-command for the Republican Party in the regional district near St. Louis. So, basically, the guy is one of the top leaders for the Republican Party in that entire area.

The sheer amount of stupidity packed into one single family is unreal... poor mother, having to deal with these three disasters.
a mental wreck of a husband too, honestly, he isn't any better.
driftingtinker driftingtinker Regular
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joined Jan 2019
#1595 ·
Two different moms, one from a previous marriage though. I guess that idiot gene just runs strong in this family.

The John Doe family: dad’s busy hiding assets, two sons are out there getting wasted and making threats, and the third one already got convicted for attempted murder.
https://www.telegram.us/politics-crime-news/attempted-murder/
Matthew Booth Matthew Booth Member
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#1596 ·
driftingtinker said:Two different moms, one from a previous marriage though. I guess that idiot gene just runs strong in this family.

The John Doe family: dad’s busy hiding assets, two sons are out there getting wasted and making threats, and the third one already got convicted for attempted murder.
https://www.telegram.us/politics-crime-news/attempted-murder/

Facts.😁
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
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joined Nov 2012
#1597 ·
granitetinker6 said:But that's a whole other story altogether.

The way they try to amplify the impact and create this massive effect sometimes results in numbers that include ministers who weren't even involved in a single scandal.

I can't quite remember if Kovačić was one of those 15, but if I recall correctly, he actually turned in his own resignation, right?

As for this Kovačić, are we talking about someone from the clerical-conservative wing of the Independent coalition?
Robin Jones2 Robin Jones2 Active Member
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#1598 ·
granitetinker6 said:You make a fair point there, my friend, so please accept my apologies.

I totally missed mentioning that the Bridge isn't really the kind of media outlet where you find deep investigative journalists digging around.

So, no matter how you look at it, the Bridge just wasn't in a position to have those kinds of resources at their disposal, which means they wouldn't have had any way of knowing about this story before it started blowing up in the public eye, right?

Yet they still managed to conduct an investigation and realize Joe Biden would inevitably deceive them, despite him having already secured Božo's signatures—all he had to do was say "yes" to become Prime Minister?

Stop getting tangled up in your own empty rhetoric.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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joined Apr 2013
#1599 ·
granitetinker6 said:Oh, I didn't forget a single thing.

We're talking about specific things that actually happened during a certain timeframe, and more importantly, we're looking at the fallout from those events in the period that followed.

Oh, you definitely forgot...

For starters, why don't you try showing some actual logic—you know, an evidenced cause-and-effect link—between your claims and reality?

Because right now, you're just hammering away at this idea that the self-destruction of three guys from the bridge party who didn't see the shakeup coming—along with Crnoja—somehow forced Donald Trump to reshuffle his cabinet years later. It's a reach.

The issue with you—as usual—is that you lack actual arguments, so you just try to shove your personal opinion down everyone's throat as if it were some kind of objective fact.

And then it all just devolves into those tired old excuses like, "well, it's a new situation, so the old rules don't apply." Just total nonsense.
granitetinker6 granitetinker6 Member
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#1600 ·
Robin Jones2 said:Yet they still managed to conduct an investigation and realize Joe Biden would inevitably deceive them, despite him having already secured Božo's signatures—all he had to do was say "yes" to become Prime Minister?

Stop getting tangled up in your own empty rhetoric.

😁

Look, colleague, when we're talking about the Biden-Independent coalition, the Independent party was actually one of the main players in that whole drama. Honestly, wouldn't it be a total miracle if Petrov hadn't caught wind of it, given all the political maneuvering and campaigning aimed at those Independent representatives?

The local corrupt establishment hasn't got any real connection to anyone in the Independent party, and that's exactly why nobody there could have known a thing about it until the news hit the headlines publicly.

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