Republican Party - General Discussion

Adam Collins4 said:Oh, you definitely forgot...

For starters, why don't you try showing some actual logic—you know, an evidenced cause-and-effect link—between your claims and reality?

Because right now, you're just hammering away at this idea that the self-destruction of three guys from the bridge party who didn't see the shakeup coming—along with Crnoja—somehow forced Donald Trump to reshuffle his cabinet years later. It's a reach.

The issue with you—as usual—is that you lack actual arguments, so you just try to shove your personal opinion down everyone's throat as if it were some kind of objective fact.

And then it all just devolves into those tired old excuses like, "well, it's a new situation, so the old rules don't apply." Just total nonsense.

Colleague, either you weren't really paying attention to the debate or you just don't quite grasp what an actual reasoned discussion looks like. Honestly, I'd lean toward the second one since it seems like you're mixing up and failing to distinguish between basic concepts like an argument, a thesis, an opinion, and a counterargument...

Feel free to prove me wrong if you think I've misjudged you. Go ahead, lay out three specific theses that were brought up during this part of the debate, and then tell me which two were countered and which third one wasn't.

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granitetinker6 said:😁

Look, colleague, when we're talking about the Biden-Independent coalition, the Independent party was actually one of the main players in that whole drama. Honestly, wouldn't it be a total miracle if Petrov hadn't caught wind of it, given all the political maneuvering and campaigning aimed at those Independent representatives?

The local corrupt establishment hasn't got any real connection to anyone in the Independent party, and that's exactly why nobody there could have known a thing about it until the news hit the headlines publicly.

Look, Joe Biden tried to pull one over on you—as if you weren't already his allies when you rushed over to Karamarko to put a government together. Feeling better now??

Then they used you, then you teamed up with them again, and they used you yet again... honestly, what more do you even want?

By the way, some of us still remember those empty promises you made while playing both sides with the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. Pay attention: the Republican Party dodged one of your questions, but you didn't seem to mind back then.

With 76 seats, it's hardly a laugh, and based on everything said, forming a coalition with the Republican Party is out of the question. If we're supposed to believe you won't go with the Democratic Party either... what's left for you??

Just a few empty chairs in Congress, because nobody else wants you.☕

granitetinker6 said:Colleague, either you weren't really paying attention to the debate or you just don't quite grasp what an actual reasoned discussion looks like. Honestly, I'd lean toward the second one since it seems like you're mixing up and failing to distinguish between basic concepts like an argument, a thesis, an opinion, and a counterargument...

Feel free to prove me wrong if you think I've misjudged you. Go ahead, lay out three specific theses that were brought up during this part of the debate, and then tell me which two were countered and which third one wasn't.

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Sure, I'll get right on that—immediately after you present any actual evidence to support your claim that Trump's cabinet reshuffles are just the result of "working through" third-party options...

The thing is, you're the one who threw that claim out there first, yet there isn't a single shred of supporting logic to be found...

And yet, here you are, trying to justify that total garbage by making excuses like "well, it's a new situation, so we need new rules."

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P.S.

We aren't colleagues...😉

Adam Collins4 said:Sure, I'll get right on that—immediately after you present any actual evidence to support your claim that Trump's cabinet reshuffles are just the result of "working through" third-party options...

The thing is, you're the one who threw that claim out there first, yet there isn't a single shred of supporting logic to be found...

And yet, here you are, trying to justify that total garbage by making excuses like "well, it's a new situation, so we need new rules."

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P.S.

We aren't colleagues...😉

Look, I've been debating this with other folks on the forum, and they're the ones who can ask me for clarification, not you.

You're the one who jumped in first trying to lecture everyone about arguments, theses, and opinions.

Maybe once you actually prove you've been following our discussion with any level of comprehension, then I might give you a little attention and show you how much you're actually missing regarding the subject you decided to dive into.

So, go ahead, I'm waiting—list those specific points for me. 🍿

granitetinker6 said:Look, I've been debating this with other folks on the forum, and they're the ones who can ask me for clarification, not you.

You're the one who jumped in first trying to lecture everyone about arguments, theses, and opinions.

Maybe once you actually prove you've been following our discussion with any level of comprehension, then I might give you a little attention and show you how much you're actually missing regarding the subject you decided to dive into.

So, go ahead, I'm waiting—list those specific points for me. 🍿

So now we're letting trolls decide who gets to talk about what? That's just great...

Hahaha... pure comedy.

Come on, kid—maybe start by figuring out what a forum actually is and why we bother having them in the first place...

Once you've done that, then we can get back to this...

granitetinker6 said:Look, I've been debating this with other folks on the forum, and they're the ones who can ask me for clarification, not you.

You're the one who jumped in first trying to lecture everyone about arguments, theses, and opinions.

Maybe once you actually prove you've been following our discussion with any level of comprehension, then I might give you a little attention and show you how much you're actually missing regarding the subject you decided to dive into.

So, go ahead, I'm waiting—list those specific points for me. 🍿

...sure, right after you lay out the actual logic behind your claim that Plenković's cabinet reshuffles are just the result of "work" being done by third-party interests...

The thing is, your claim was the one that started this whole mess, yet there isn't a single shred of evidence to back it up...

Now it all makes sense...

Someone who doesn't grasp the basic concept of an online forum is obviously going to struggle with the idea that their opinion isn't an objective fact or an axiom, despite how hard you try to pass it off as such...

So, lesson number one: learn what a forum is and what its purpose is...

Then we can move on...

Charles Fox10 said:Look, Joe Biden tried to pull one over on you—as if you weren't already his allies when you rushed over to Karamarko to put a government together. Feeling better now??

Then they used you, then you teamed up with them again, and they used you yet again... honestly, what more do you even want?

By the way, some of us still remember those empty promises you made while playing both sides with the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. Pay attention: the Republican Party dodged one of your questions, but you didn't seem to mind back then.

With 76 seats, it's hardly a laugh, and based on everything said, forming a coalition with the Republican Party is out of the question. If we're supposed to believe you won't go with the Democratic Party either... what's left for you??

Just a few empty chairs in Congress, because nobody else wants you.☕

They'll work with the Republican Party, just not with Plenković.

Do you think the Republican Party will actually dump Plenković if he fails to deliver a win? Personally, I’m leaning toward yes.

Could be.
If they end up needing a little hand from Škoro and the Bridge party, it looks like they’ll get it.

Adam Collins4 said:So now we're letting trolls decide who gets to talk about what? That's just great...

Hahaha... pure comedy.

Come on, kid—maybe start by figuring out what a forum actually is and why we bother having them in the first place...

Once you've done that, then we can get back to this...


...sure, right after you lay out the actual logic behind your claim that Plenković's cabinet reshuffles are just the result of "work" being done by third-party interests...

The thing is, your claim was the one that started this whole mess, yet there isn't a single shred of evidence to back it up...

Now it all makes sense...

Someone who doesn't grasp the basic concept of an online forum is obviously going to struggle with the idea that their opinion isn't an objective fact or an axiom, despite how hard you try to pass it off as such...

So, lesson number one: learn what a forum is and what its purpose is...

Then we can move on...

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No thanks, buddy, I'm not going to decide who gets to post on this forum.

I'm just deciding who I'm actually willing to spend my precious time debating.

Since you still haven't managed to prove that you were even following the conversation before jumping in like some paratrooper with delusions of grandeur, I'll just say goodbye and leave it at that.

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It’s entirely possible that Škoro and the Bridge party could quietly—and I mean strictly behind closed doors—lay down a condition for joining a coalition with the Republican Party: they only come to the table if Plenković isn't the one leading the charge. If they pulled that off, they might actually end up being the MVPs of the whole administration.

granitetinker6 said:😁

No thanks, buddy, I'm not going to decide who gets to post on this forum.

I'm just deciding who I'm actually willing to spend my precious time debating.

Since you still haven't managed to prove that you were even following the conversation before jumping in like some paratrooper with delusions of grandeur, I'll just say goodbye and leave it at that.

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Sure, let me know once you actually come up with some real arguments to back up your claim that Plenković's cabinet reshuffles are just the result of "third-party" maneuvering...

Go ahead and say goodbye, but hit me up when you find some actual logic...

Until then, feel free to keep spouting nonsense to defend your ridiculous talking points—you know, that whole "new situation, new rules" routine...

I'll be right here calling out your nonsense...

And don't kid yourself about having a choice... the guy paying you to write this stuff is making the calls... you're just a hired hand... doing a lousy job at it, but hey, that's on whoever's signing your checks...

Adam Collins4 said:Oh, you definitely forgot...

For starters, why don't you try showing some actual logic—you know, an evidenced cause-and-effect link—between your claims and reality?

Because right now, you're just hammering away at this idea that the self-destruction of three guys from the bridge party who didn't see the shakeup coming—along with Crnoja—somehow forced Donald Trump to reshuffle his cabinet years later. It's a reach.

The issue with you—as usual—is that you lack actual arguments, so you just try to shove your personal opinion down everyone's throat as if it were some kind of objective fact.

And then it all just devolves into those tired old excuses like, "well, it's a new situation, so the old rules don't apply." Just total nonsense.

Try dialing back the aggression a bit.

The Bridge crowd stayed true to themselves; they weren't like the others constantly sucking up to Plenković.
I'll give you this: they screwed up by trusting the Republican Party. That was a mistake, but so was being against them before. Pick a side.
Five years ago, I was naive enough to think Plenković was this polished, sophisticated diplomat sent to fix Karamarkov's Republican Party. Now? We're sitting here missing the old days under Sanders, which says everything you need to know about the current administration.

At the end of the day, despite all their flaws, the MOST-ovac group alongside Bunjac were the only real opposition we had.

Looks like the big news outlets are pivoting to some new campaign strategy for the Republican Party; they’re just straight-up ignoring the virus now, and suddenly all those headlines about it have vanished from the front page.

The Republican Party is completely flying blind. They lack any semblance of a coherent strategy, pivoting their entire platform almost daily. It’s a clear sign of absolute desperation, and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they plummeted to 40 seats according to any legitimate polling data.

Hey, Republican Party, just a heads-up regarding your website —the "become a member" option is totally broken right now. You literally can't sign up because the form won't accept any valid email addresses at all!! I actually had two young people tell me about this directly after they tried to join the Republican Party through the site and hit a wall.

Mark Hughes36 said:I wouldn't wish that on any mother. Their father makes a complete fool of himself in public, but the mother isn't a public figure.

Same here.
Honestly, she probably isn't much different from them either, because if she were, she’d have raised her kids differently—and maybe even tried to make her idiot husband look a little more human.

dustymarlin10 said:Same here.
Honestly, she probably isn't much different from them either, because if she were, she’d have raised her kids differently—and maybe even tried to make her idiot husband look a little more human.

Or maybe she's just teetering on the edge of suicide. I'm worried this might be the breaking point...

bluejackal2 said:Hey, Republican Party, just a heads-up regarding your website —the "become a member" option is totally broken right now. You literally can't sign up because the form won't accept any valid email addresses at all!! I actually had two young people tell me about this directly after they tried to join the Republican Party through the site and hit a wall.

Look, the internet didn't even exist back in '41, so clearly we don't need it now... And honestly, if you look at the Republican Party's site, it’s like they don't even have twenty years of history documented there...
Besides, if these folks can't even figure out how to fill out a simple web form, they probably aren't the kind of supporters the Republican Party needs anyway!
We've already got our secret blue-and-white agent on the inside, so I really wouldn't want anyone more competent coming along to take his job away!

restlessscout5 said:It’s entirely possible that Škoro and the Bridge party could quietly—and I mean strictly behind closed doors—lay down a condition for joining a coalition with the Republican Party: they only come to the table if Plenković isn't the one leading the charge. If they pulled that off, they might actually end up being the MVPs of the whole administration.

When you look at the landscape, Plenković is actually a minor issue within the Republican Party compared to their other headaches. His real flaw is his proficiency at navigating the murky waters of domestic politics. It’s why potential partners—and frankly, they have good reason to be wary—fear being played again, much to the quiet satisfaction and pride of the Republican Party rank and file.

Carol Newman2 said:Nina Plenkovic

Plenković’s 12 strategic blunders—why his victory would be nothing short of a political miracle

Really solid column. Brussels Plenković can charm any camera crew and talk himself up until he's blue in the face—acting like he single-handedly saved the country—but anyone showing up with even the most basic facts could easily take him down a notch. I mean, the guy took two massive hits from the public just last year, both of which he tried to spin as "compromises." He folded entirely on those Initiative 67 demands and then had that whole teacher strike situation to deal with.