steelfox98 said:Don't hold your breath. I've seen enough disappointment in this life to know better. steelfox98 says:
Where exactly did you say they don't bother to ask?
Look at this thread... honestly, are you even aware of what you're posting?
The vote on that bill just gave Andrej Plenković and Horvat all the leverage they need to brush this under the rug and point the finger at everyone else. Typical. I remember when things actually meant something in DC, before this constant deflection became the norm. It’s exhausting.
Is it really that hard to see? For anyone with half a brain cell left, this is just more typical Republican-style bullshit. I've seen this circus before, back when I was working those long shifts in Chicago. It never changes.
I suppose so, but if that's how you want to play it, you clearly aren't interested in actually communicating.
They voted for that desperate Republican law out of pure populism, too afraid to touch the one issue that actually triggers their voters. And then, predictably, those criminals have the nerve to claim, "Even the opposition supported our bill!" Typical.
If you see it, you see it. If you don't, you don't. Honestly, those Republicans should have just stayed home that day—not just skipping the vote, but staying out of the country entirely. People like that would still be out there blindly trusting Andrej Plenković regardless.
It’s obvious to everyone now. If the opposition had actually pulled themselves together back then—even with that one unconventional move on such a sensitive issue—they could have pivoted the focus toward yet another Republican disaster. If they had, Andrej Plenković wouldn't be standing there today talking about "opposition support." Not a chance.
We all knew that any legislation birthed by the Republican Party was bound to be a disaster, but I didn't realize just how catastrophic it would actually be. Did you? Would you have paid more attention if every single opposition member had voted against that reconstruction bill? I certainly would have.
"Quote:"| Look, if they hadn't voted for it, Andrej Plenković would just be pointing fingers anyway. He’d claim they didn't give a damn about people sitting out there without a roof over their heads. He’d argue that reconstruction would only be halfway done if they hadn't backed that law. It's all just a load of nonsense. |
He’d love to call them out, but he'd end up swallowing his own pride just to cover for another one of those Republican Party stunts. Typical.
They broke his quorum, so we just sat there laughing at his pathetic whining. It’s the same old story. Right after the election, every single opposition leader refused to even grab a coffee with him. They knew better. With Andrej Plenković, you don't get a conversation—you only get a knife in the back.
Look at what happened last week. Everyone was fixated on Wolfgang Schäuble and that predictable mess over at NBC. It was all a distraction. We saw how the opposition used their blockade to push a visibly rattled Andrej Plenković into cutting the live broadcast of the session. Typical.
"Quote:" It always comes back to this. The Republicans will find some way to pin their own mess on someone else. It's predictable. Those who actually want to hold them accountable will see it, and those who don't... well, they won't. Same old story. Everything else is just mindless spin. It’s a desperate attempt to twist the truth so hard you end up biting your own tongue. I've seen this dance before. |
Was that aimed at me?
Let’s be real: that disastrous Republican law gave them all the cover they needed. Like you said, everything else is just pure spin. To me, this is nothing more than classic Republican-style damage control to justify their own screw-ups.
"Quote:" Yeah, they voted for that bill. Just like they spent the entire night protesting outside the US Congress before everything was dissolved for elections, all because they were desperate to push that specific legislation through first. The whole point was to get that damn law passed so reconstruction could actually kick off. The plan was to just tweak and amend things on the fly as problems popped up on the ground—as long as they got moving. I can say this with total confidence: even the harshest critics and haters of the Republican Party—and I proudly count myself among them—never imagined these people would sit on their hands for over a year, completely indifferent while we head into another winter. |
The Republican Party would have pushed that law through even without any opposition, but hey—some of them actually did vote for it. That’s despite the fact that the Republican Party rejected every single meaningful amendment meant to fix it. Don't quote me on the specifics, but I think they conceded on a few trivial ones.
I absolutely agree with that last part, but that’s my whole point. If the opposition had actually united back then, they would have realized something smelled way worse than usual. Like that whole situation with Wolfgang Schäuble.
The reason they voted for it was just to get some kind of legislation on the books, because even a flawed law like that was supposed to kickstart the rebuilding process. Or at least, that was the idea. Because there was constant whining about how work couldn't actually begin until the law was passed.
And honestly, I totally get that logic. When you've spent six months without a roof over your head, you just want things to move—you think, "Let's just get started and fix the details as we go," since realistically, nobody could have predicted every single little problem upfront.
Then, once they realized they'd been screwed over, they lost the quorum during the amendments a few months later—check out the link this genius posted as proof of an event from several months prior 😁
It’s just like when the whole COVID mess started and everyone gave them their full support, only to blow them off when they saw how they were being played, like that coffee meeting you mentioned.
Now it's finally clear to the citizens...
So now it's suddenly obvious that the Republicans are solely responsible for the rebuilding—or rather, the lack thereof? Well, they can go jump in a lake if they're only realizing that now.
The Republican Party would have passed that law that day regardless of the opposition
And that’s exactly the point of the whole argument. It's like trying to blame the opposition for not caring that rebuilding can't start without legislation while people are left homeless.
We both know the Republicans would find a way to shift the blame in any scenario, simply because they're shameless, immoral pieces of work.
Alex Moore3 said:What lie are you talking about???
Maybe this one?
https://www.telegram.com/politics-news-on-reconstruction/amp/
Look, I'm actually feeling a little embarrassed for you right now. 😁
Do you even read past the headline, or do you just Google stuff to find a title that supports whatever nonsense you're trying to pass off as truth? 🤣🤣🤣
So, you're basically blaming the Democratic Party and the Progressives for passing that reconstruction law, claiming they were just looking for any excuse to break quorum like they did last week. Then you drop a link where Plenki kukati complains about how the opposition blocked them from voting on the
amendments to the reconstruction law 🙏instead of actually fixing things.
Honestly, you should be embarrassed.
Though, seeing as you’ve typed out so much nonsense, I doubt you even know what shame feels like. It requires a bit of self-reflection, and based on what you've written here, it looks like you're completely immune to that.