What do you think heaven looks like?

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Arthur Flores2 said:Hey Anonymous...
We don't actually have to believe that...
Jesus talks about the destruction of both soul and body in hell...
I guess that's why Pope Francis was saying recently that humans just vanish in hell. Like, the soul just ceases to exist...

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Hey, Anthony Perez9...
We don't even have to believe it...
Jesus talks about the soul and body being thrown into hell...
That’s why the Pope and Francis have been talking lately about how we're facing the disappearance of humanity in hell. Basically, the soul is just vanishing.[/I]
So you're a heretic... respect. 👍

Jesus rose from the dead. With the body. So, everything changes during the Resurrection. I mean, once we all hit that eternal stage on Resurrection Day... We're gonna get upgraded bodies.After showing himself to his disciples, Jesus then... Ate some fish.So, there's this way of looking at it... Just the physical body. So, which part of this mess is actually free?

From the Catholic Catechism:

Sky.

Those who pass away in God’s grace and friendship, having been fully purified, are truly alive. Forever with Christ..

That’s just standard Catholic doctrine... They claim Mary physically ascended from her grave—whether she died first or was still breathing, the Church keeps things vague—along with mass killers like Elijah and Enoch.

Arthur Flores2 said:Hey Anonymous...
We don't actually have to believe that...
Jesus talks about the destruction of both soul and body in hell...
I guess that's why Pope Francis was saying recently that humans just vanish in hell. Like, the soul just ceases to exist...

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Honestly, that doesn't even sound all that bad. I mean, most atheists spend their whole lives worrying about what happens to their "Self" after they die—but if this is true, they just vanish forever! No more ego, no more existential dread, just... gone.
(I didn't realize the Pope had started leaning into the Jehovah's ideas. For them, hell is basically just the permanent annihilation of our identity after death.)

David Vaughn75 said:I’m throwing this out there for anyone who actually believes in an afterlife—but hey, if you’re a skeptic, feel free to jump in and tell me why you think it’s all nonsense too.

So, here's what's rattling around in my brain: do we actually get a physical body in heaven, or are we just floating around in some vague, spiritual void? If we do get bodies back, who gets the final say on what we look like—is it God making the calls, or do we get some kind of cosmic autonomy?
And what’s the crowd situation like? Are we talking about a private VIP lounge where it's just us, or is the place packed with other people and... I don't know, other beings hanging out in the same space?
Is paradise basically just some pristine botanical garden like Adam and Eve had in the Garden of Eden, or is it more like a non-stop, eternal rave where we can indulge in whatever we want without any consequences?

Anyway, how do you guys picture it?

It is my view that existences follow one after another in an endless cycle.

Individual realms might certainly seem "heavenly" when compared to our current reality...

Anthony Perez9 said:Hey, Anthony Perez9...
We don't even have to believe it...
Jesus talks about the soul and body being thrown into hell...
That’s why the Pope and Francis have been talking lately about how we're facing the disappearance of humanity in hell. Basically, the soul is just vanishing.[/I]

So you're a heretic... respect. 👍

That’s just standard Catholic doctrine... They claim Mary physically ascended from her grave—whether she died first or was still breathing, the Church keeps things vague—along with mass killers like Elijah and Enoch.
So you're a heretic... respect. 👍

That’s just standard Catholic doctrine... They claim Mary physically ascended from her grave—whether she died first or was still breathing, the Church keeps things vague—along with mass killers like Elijah and Enoch.
So you're a heretic... respect. 👍

That’s just standard Catholic doctrine... They claim Mary physically ascended from her grave—whether she died first or was still breathing, the Church keeps things vague—along with mass killers like Elijah and Enoch.
That's basically what the Catholic Church believes.... And the Virgin Mary always ascended bodily from her grave (whether she was dead first or still alive, the Church hasn't really specified), plus that mass murderer saint Elijah, Enoch...

Man, I was actually thinking about your usual stuff regarding hell...
As for the whole thing about the Savior having an eternal body in paradise, I'm with the Church on that...
I mean, it would be pretty depressing not to have my own body in eternity, I guess...

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Arthur Flores2 said:So you're a heretic... respect. 👍

That’s just standard Catholic doctrine... They claim Mary physically ascended from her grave—whether she died first or was still breathing, the Church keeps things vague—along with mass killers like Elijah and Enoch.

So you're a heretic... respect. 👍

That’s just standard Catholic doctrine... They claim Mary physically ascended from her grave—whether she died first or was still breathing, the Church keeps things vague—along with mass killers like Elijah and Enoch.
That's basically what the Catholic Church believes.... And the Virgin Mary always ascended bodily from her grave (whether she was dead first or still alive, the Church hasn't really specified), plus that mass murderer saint Elijah, Enoch...

Man, I was actually thinking about your usual stuff regarding hell...
As for the whole thing about the Savior having an eternal body in paradise, I'm with the Church on that...
I mean, it would be pretty depressing not to have my own body in eternity, I guess...

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That's basically what the Catholic Church believes.... And the Virgin Mary always ascended bodily from her grave (whether she was dead first or still alive, the Church hasn't really specified), plus that mass murderer saint Elijah, Enoch...

Man, I was actually thinking about your usual stuff regarding hell...
As for the whole thing about the Savior having an eternal body in paradise, I'm with the Church on that...
I mean, it would be pretty depressing not to have my own body in eternity, I guess...

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Man, I was actually thinking about your usual stuff regarding hell...
As for the whole thing about the Savior having an eternal body in paradise, I'm with the Church on that...
I mean, it would be pretty depressing not to have my own body in eternity, I guess...

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Yeah. And passing gas would definitely be fine in paradise. It’d be way too sad and dry if there wasn't any farting in heaven along with everything else our guts do.👍

Anthony Perez9 said:That's basically what the Catholic Church believes.... And the Virgin Mary always ascended bodily from her grave (whether she was dead first or still alive, the Church hasn't really specified), plus that mass murderer saint Elijah, Enoch...

Man, I was actually thinking about your usual stuff regarding hell...
As for the whole thing about the Savior having an eternal body in paradise, I'm with the Church on that...
I mean, it would be pretty depressing not to have my own body in eternity, I guess...

.

Man, I was actually thinking about your usual stuff regarding hell...
As for the whole thing about the Savior having an eternal body in paradise, I'm with the Church on that...
I mean, it would be pretty depressing not to have my own body in eternity, I guess...

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Yeah. And passing gas would definitely be fine in paradise. It’d be way too sad and dry if there wasn't any farting in heaven along with everything else our guts do.👍
Yeah. And passing gas would definitely be fine in paradise. It’d be way too sad and dry if there wasn't any farting in heaven along with everything else our guts do.👍

I don't think there’s actual farting in heaven...
But there’s probably pooping. Taking a dump on the toilet is way too much of a relief to just toss out for no reason. Why ruin something good? I mean, could anyone actually get bored of pooping? We poop every single day and we never get sick of that feeling. We could be pooping for billions of years and it probably wouldn't get old. Pooping is kind of an example of how some things are just eternal, you know? They never go away...
Though, I’d expect that in heaven, we aren't dropping stinky crap, but rather something cool. Like, every day you're wondering, "what am I gonna poop out today?" For instance, one day you might poop out the answer to some question you were dying to know back when we were living on Earth...
Uh... what?
Why wouldn't heaven be interesting?

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Benjamin Taylor6 said:Honestly, that doesn't even sound all that bad. I mean, most atheists spend their whole lives worrying about what happens to their "Self" after they die—but if this is true, they just vanish forever! No more ego, no more existential dread, just... gone.
(I didn't realize the Pope had started leaning into the Jehovah's ideas. For them, hell is basically just the permanent annihilation of our identity after death.)

That sounds pretty comforting to me.😁

Arthur Flores2 said:Yeah. And passing gas would definitely be fine in paradise. It’d be way too sad and dry if there wasn't any farting in heaven along with everything else our guts do.👍

I don't think there’s actual farting in heaven...
But there’s probably pooping. Taking a dump on the toilet is way too much of a relief to just toss out for no reason. Why ruin something good? I mean, could anyone actually get bored of pooping? We poop every single day and we never get sick of that feeling. We could be pooping for billions of years and it probably wouldn't get old. Pooping is kind of an example of how some things are just eternal, you know? They never go away...
Though, I’d expect that in heaven, we aren't dropping stinky crap, but rather something cool. Like, every day you're wondering, "what am I gonna poop out today?" For instance, one day you might poop out the answer to some question you were dying to know back when we were living on Earth...
Uh... what?
Why wouldn't heaven be interesting?

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Best post you've ever made. 👍 🤣
Muslims also say that in their version of paradise, even bodily fluids smell amazing from miles away.

Anthony Perez9 said:Best post you've ever made. 👍 🤣
Muslims also say that in their version of paradise, even bodily fluids smell amazing from miles away.

to put it bluntly:

There’s zero tech or gadgets in paradise
From where we're sitting—if you can even call it that—it'd probably look pretty primitive to you guys.
But hey, you don't have to worry about sleep or having too much downtime... most of the time is spent just wandering around and flying about, basically hanging out with the locals.

I remember reading this story ages ago about a guy who actually died and was clinically dead for three days. Apparently, there’s even medical records to back it up—he was dealing with cancer and made this one final request to his caregiver: don't bury him or report him dead for three whole days. I can't recall his name, but he was a staunch atheist while he was alive.
Once he passed, he merged into this massive cosmic consciousness. He described it as a state of pure, unconditional love—honestly, it sounds like it would be deeper and more intense than anything we could ever dream up. He saw this incredible mandala formed by human souls, and he saw souls passing through, guided by figures like Buddha or Jesus... basically, whatever you believed in during your life is what meets you on the other side. Since he was an atheist, he just merged into that mandala without any specific figure waiting for him. He wrote so much about it—just beautiful descriptions of this "heaven." Mostly it was about love, oneness, and the realization that we're all just one single soul...
I've also read Anita Moorjani, and she writes about that exact same thing—that feeling of merging with unconditional love.

But then there's this other stuff... honestly, it's the scariest thing I've ever read.
It makes your blood run cold.
And seriously, if you're someone who's easily influenced, reading this might leave you living in fear for the rest of your life.
Because once you mess up here, the devils come dragging you down.

Look, we can all just plug in and connect while we're here, inhabiting these bodies. Since death isn't actually a thing, everything is basically paradise. Plus, you've got free will. Everyone lives in their own version of reality because, honestly, reality comes from within. Even when we "die," that internal reality keeps moving. That’s just how the universe works—it's a hologram. We're all interconnected with Everything, even if everyone's individual experience feels totally different.

Unconditional love is our true identity that we've just plain forgotten.

Just one second
1 sec.

Supposedly, that's how long the whole movie plays—all those flashes of experiences and memories swirling through your head during that final second of life... or at least, that's what some people claim happens.

So, honestly, we can't even be sure how long life actually lasts, or if we're even truly alive right now.

Paradise according to the vision of a Jehovah's Witness (an illustration provided by Unknown)

Morgan Peterson6 said:I remember reading this story ages ago about a guy who actually died and was clinically dead for three days. Apparently, there’s even medical records to back it up—he was dealing with cancer and made this one final request to his caregiver: don't bury him or report him dead for three whole days. I can't recall his name, but he was a staunch atheist while he was alive.
Once he passed, he merged into this massive cosmic consciousness. He described it as a state of pure, unconditional love—honestly, it sounds like it would be deeper and more intense than anything we could ever dream up. He saw this incredible mandala formed by human souls, and he saw souls passing through, guided by figures like Buddha or Jesus... basically, whatever you believed in during your life is what meets you on the other side. Since he was an atheist, he just merged into that mandala without any specific figure waiting for him. He wrote so much about it—just beautiful descriptions of this "heaven." Mostly it was about love, oneness, and the realization that we're all just one single soul...
I've also read Anita Moorjani, and she writes about that exact same thing—that feeling of merging with unconditional love.

But then there's this other stuff... honestly, it's the scariest thing I've ever read.
It makes your blood run cold.
And seriously, if you're someone who's easily influenced, reading this might leave you living in fear for the rest of your life.
Because once you mess up here, the devils come dragging you down.

This whole thing is just a tedious, unbelievable load of garbage🤦

I skimmed through it diagonally.

Paradise?

Peace and happiness inside the human mind.

That’s when we’ll finally have paradise right here on Earth.

David Vaughn75 said:I’m throwing this out there for anyone who actually believes in an afterlife—but hey, if you’re a skeptic, feel free to jump in and tell me why you think it’s all nonsense too.

So, here's what's rattling around in my brain: do we actually get a physical body in heaven, or are we just floating around in some vague, spiritual void? If we do get bodies back, who gets the final say on what we look like—is it God making the calls, or do we get some kind of cosmic autonomy?
And what’s the crowd situation like? Are we talking about a private VIP lounge where it's just us, or is the place packed with other people and... I don't know, other beings hanging out in the same space?
Is paradise basically just some pristine botanical garden like Adam and Eve had in the Garden of Eden, or is it more like a non-stop, eternal rave where we can indulge in whatever we want without any consequences?

Anyway, how do you guys picture it?

People always talk about heaven as this thing that’s coming later. It kind of implies that everything right now is just total crap, but one day... someday... It’s a pretty clumsy way to look at existence—this idea that you just have to suffer through life, like you're stuck serving a sentence in some tiny small town in Ohio, just waiting for your time to be up...
Different religions basically offer a standardized version of heaven—like a pre-packaged service or a one-size-fits-all resort. But would a Christian actually feel at home in a Hindu heaven, or would a Maori feel right at home in a Christian one?
Heaven is clearly different for everyone. Maybe every single person ends up with their own personal version of paradise.

It’s like that line from Jinx: "Where everything is just the way I want it."

nimblemarlin6 said:People always talk about heaven as this thing that’s coming later. It kind of implies that everything right now is just total crap, but one day... someday... It’s a pretty clumsy way to look at existence—this idea that you just have to suffer through life, like you're stuck serving a sentence in some tiny small town in Ohio, just waiting for your time to be up...
Different religions basically offer a standardized version of heaven—like a pre-packaged service or a one-size-fits-all resort. But would a Christian actually feel at home in a Hindu heaven, or would a Maori feel right at home in a Christian one?
Heaven is clearly different for everyone. Maybe every single person ends up with their own personal version of paradise.

It’s like that line from Jinx: "Where everything is just the way I want it."

So maybe the whole point of heaven is that it’s totally tailored to you—you finally get exactly what you want. 🤷

The real kicker is, once you get bored of it—kind of like how a kid loses interest in a brand-new toy after a week—what happens then?

Thomas Nelson25 said:There’s zero tech or gadgets in paradise
From where we're sitting—if you can even call it that—it'd probably look pretty primitive to you guys.
But hey, you don't have to worry about sleep or having too much downtime... most of the time is spent just wandering around and flying about, basically hanging out with the locals.

😢

Looking at it through a modern lens, that sounds more like hell. 😁