Left Hand Path spirituality

Check out this decent guy—he actually brought in some real reforms. For him, the whole LHP thing was about stepping up for people who've been pushed to the margins and stuff. What we're looking at here is basically the modernized version of the organized Aghor Yoga tradition.

The practices of Aghor Yoga today reflect reforms made in the 1960s, shifting the focus of Aghor to seeking a balanced life of selfless service and personal practice.[3] Baba Bhagwan Ramji encouraged the practitioners of Aghor to follow the "left hand path" by embracing socially stigmatized and neglected people, such as street children and people with leprosy and other "untouchable" diseases. Today, the followers of Aghoreshwar Bhagwan Ramji have established a large network of schools, orphanages, medical clinics, or other social service projects.[4]

By shifting Aghor Yoga’s focus to helping those who are suffering within society, Baba Bhagwan Ramji modernized the ancient Aghor tradition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aghor_Yoga

neonmarlin39 said:Check out this decent guy—he actually brought in some real reforms. For him, the whole LHP thing was about stepping up for people who've been pushed to the margins and stuff. What we're looking at here is basically the modernized version of the organized Aghor Yoga tradition.

The practices of Aghor Yoga today reflect reforms made in the 1960s, shifting the focus of Aghor to seeking a balanced life of selfless service and personal practice.[3] Baba Bhagwan Ramji encouraged the practitioners of Aghor to follow the "left hand path" by embracing socially stigmatized and neglected people, such as street children and people with leprosy and other "untouchable" diseases. Today, the followers of Aghoreshwar Bhagwan Ramji have established a large network of schools, orphanages, medical clinics, or other social service projects.[4]

By shifting Aghor Yoga’s focus to helping those who are suffering within society, Baba Bhagwan Ramji modernized the ancient Aghor tradition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aghor_Yoga

That's beautiful. It reminds me of Jesus or Mother Teresa. I really respect people who are capable of taking their own deep-seated psychological complexes and transforming them into something constructive.

But what if there isn't actually a path to follow, or some predefined road you're supposed to trek down?

That’s how you actually make your mark on this world—by living as the person you truly believe yourself to be, carving out your own unique path, and honestly... there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

silverwolf98 said:But what if there isn't actually a path to follow, or some predefined road you're supposed to trek down?

My Way

Thomas Nelson25 said:My Way

It’s such a damn shame this comment doesn't come with its own soundtrack.

Elizabeth Castillo87 said:It’s such a damn shame this comment doesn't come with its own soundtrack.

And honestly, you could also... 😬

silverwolf98 said:But what if there isn't actually a path to follow, or some predefined road you're supposed to trek down?

If we’re talking about "the path" literally... honestly, if you're moving, you're on a path. You can stick to the paved roads, or you can cut through the woods. You could even wander straight into a minefield (though, uh, maybe don't do that). It's all on you—your call, your choice, and you're the one dealing with the fallout.

Truth is a pathless land. Jiddu Krishnamurti

I find myself wrestling with a single, nagging question: what is my true self? Or am I just caught in a futile, predetermined struggle—a blind trek toward nothingness? It’s this endless cycle where one asks, fights, searches, tries to grasp, strives, fears, spasms, withers, rejoices, worries, gives birth, and ultimately dies... all for the sake of something that doesn't actually exist.

silverwolf98 said:I find myself wrestling with a single, nagging question: what is my true self? Or am I just caught in a futile, predetermined struggle—a blind trek toward nothingness? It’s this endless cycle where one asks, fights, searches, tries to grasp, strives, fears, spasms, withers, rejoices, worries, gives birth, and ultimately dies... all for the sake of something that doesn't actually exist.

In that case, why not just wait for the current to sweep you away—for life itself to take hold?

Who knows? Perhaps that is the actual way to find meaning.
Maybe you don't need to hunt for a path at all; maybe you just need to wait for the flood. 🧐

Ryan Wilson2 said:In that case, why not just wait for the current to sweep you away—for life itself to take hold?

Who knows? Perhaps that is the actual way to find meaning.
Maybe you don't need to hunt for a path at all; maybe you just need to wait for the flood. 🧐

But what exactly am I waiting for?
In your view, where would that water—that flood, or whatever we call it—actually carry me, given who I am and where I currently stand?
What's there to wait for?
Some other circumstance, some different state of being, some new knowledge or wealth? But those things are constantly shifting anyway.

Do you actually have a concept of something one should be waiting for or achieving that isn't present right now?
And please, let's not talk about hitting a multi-million dollar jackpot. Why? Because why not! 🙂, though I suppose that's not really the spirit of this conversation.

Have you ever wondered, purely out of curiosity or just for the hell of it, if you might be chasing after something that doesn't even exist?
Or perhaps, what if the thing you're looking for is already right here, but you can't see it because you're too busy staring at your own idea of something that isn't real?

hiddenpuma75 said:1. To really drive home just how murky the whole LHP vs. RHP theory is, I’m going to have to shock you a little bit
with a practical example rather than just empty words.

2. As you all know—even if you don't quite remember it—we all arrived in this world via our mother's biological rocket ship, landing on a slippery airfield known as the vagina.

3. It’s also common knowledge that, theoretically speaking, the Catholic Church represents the RHP, while old man Aleister Crowley represents the LHP.

4. Or, to put it in the words of our friend Alistair—the Catholic Church is the one true religion on Earth, while Crowley is a Satanist.

5. But honestly, it is absolutely staggering how the extreme right and the extreme left constantly collide in an infinite loop, finding themselves thinking exactly the same thing about certain life issues. 🙏

6. For instance, the Catholic Church is quite vocal in stating that a forced termination of pregnancy is a vile and shameful murder...

7. And yet, Crowley says the exact same thing in his writings! 😲

8. You would naturally expect a "Satanist" like Crowley to champion "individual rights," but nope!! He was just as clear-cut as the Pope.

9. Forced termination of pregnancy is a low, despicable murder! 😲

10. Or, to put it in aviation terms: anyone who prevents passengers from completing their landing through the vagina is a terrorist. 😲

(P.S. I am intentionally avoiding the popular term "abortion," which feels like it doesn't actually mean anything anymore. Using the phrase "forced termination of pregnancy" actually carries some weight. 😉

I actually tracked it down:

In his book Equinox, Crowley writes:

" I consider abortion to be the most shameful form of murder, and I despise the social codes that encourage it."

He went into much greater detail about this in his Confessions:

I honestly believe that abortion, under any circumstances, is one of the most heinous acts of murder. Beyond the moral weight, it almost always ravages a woman's health if it doesn't take her life entirely. My convictions on this matter really reinforce my broader stance on sexual freedom. I truly believe that very few women, left to their own devices, would be depraved enough to commit such a sin against the Holy Spirit—to betray nature's deepest instincts at the risk of their own health, life, and certainly facing prison time. Yet, criminal abortion remains one of our most frequent crimes, and there's a strange paradox where a certain segment of public opinion actually permits it. The reason? Our social system makes poverty so shameful and punitive that women feel forced to act against what evolution has spent eons building.

The real remedy lies in changing public perception. If motherhood were recognized as inherently honorable, even the pressures of poverty wouldn't drive anyone—save for a few degenerate individuals with twisted appetites for pleasure—to abandon their biological purpose. In those extreme cases, frankly, it might be better if they and their offspring simply perished.

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More info at this link
https://www.lashtal.com/forums/topic...inst-abortion/

About fifteen or more years ago, a friend and I attempted to translate the Confessions—it pairs well with the English version, though my grasp of the subject matter, syntax, and Will was... lacking 🙂. We only managed the first chapter, which actually covers nearly the entire book. If such a thing even still exists, you might find that translation in the library of the Mirrah lodge in Chicago, but it definitely needs some serious polishing. The idea was to inspire the Thelemites to tackle the rest collectively, but nothing ever came of it
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I don't recall that specific part, but honestly, it feels like one of those typical jokes Crowley was so fond of
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Especially regarding the Confessions—besides that, you really ought to look at the context from which it was pulled; I think things would be clearer then

Paul Rogers94 said:About fifteen or more years ago, a friend and I attempted to translate the Confessions—it pairs well with the English version, though my grasp of the subject matter, syntax, and Will was... lacking 🙂. We only managed the first chapter, which actually covers nearly the entire book. If such a thing even still exists, you might find that translation in the library of the Mirrah lodge in Chicago, but it definitely needs some serious polishing. The idea was to inspire the Thelemites to tackle the rest collectively, but nothing ever came of it
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I don't recall that specific part, but honestly, it feels like one of those typical jokes Crowley was so fond of
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Especially regarding the Confessions—besides that, you really ought to look at the context from which it was pulled; I think things would be clearer then

It’s actually quite strange to hear people suggest this was just some joke by Crowley.

I've provided two texts that are incredibly solemn—identical in both tone and substance.

I don't see any sign of a joke here, particularly since we're talking about life and death.🤔

hiddenpuma75 said:It’s actually quite strange to hear people suggest this was just some joke by Crowley.

I've provided two texts that are incredibly solemn—identical in both tone and substance.

I don't see any sign of a joke here, particularly since we're talking about life and death.🤔

Crowley understood perfectly well that both life and death are merely fragments of a dream—mental constructs, really. Everything occurring between birth and death is just a hollow mental hallucination and play, which doesn't change the fundamental reality of what one truly is. By that logic, an abortion is also just part of the dream; whether it's considered a crime or carries consequences is irrelevant. Does such a rigid, narrow-minded "stance" even have anything to do with sexual freedom or any other liberty? They're all just parts of the dream too. It’s obvious what he was trying to justify with that logic—a logic that, frankly, contradicts everything about how he actually lived... Is that not a complete joke? Or do you honestly think he was worried about the population growth?🤣
No one has ever written an objective confession—nor is it even possible given the very nature of the literary form.