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Can money actually buy happiness?

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Paul Bennett3 Paul Bennett3 Member
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joined Mar 2017
#61 ·
Money can't buy happiness, but it sure makes life easier to stomach. Of course, nobody actually wants a massive windfall, even if they love flaunting wealth, power, status, and all that other nonsense people use to mask their own insecurities. We see it all the time... people with endless cash ending up miserable or just living completely hollow lives.
Thomas Hernandez10 Thomas Hernandez10 Newcomer
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#62 ·
Donna White50 said:Honestly, if everyone just shared the wealth... we'd all be living our best lives forever...🤣

Look, if you're talking about a Catholic church that isn't actually out to protect its hoard—one that doesn't want to turn everyone into paupers but instead focuses on finding that sweet spot between being successful and actually giving back to the community... then honestly, your whole argument just falls apart. There are at least two big reasons why your logic doesn't really hold up...

Look, first off—if you just do whatever you feel like, buy whatever you want, whenever you want, without any restraint... you’re basically checking out of reality. And once you lose that connection to the real world? Everything just goes south fast. Honestly, humans aren't wired—mentally or biologically—to live like that. It's just not how we're built. You end up crashing because there's nothing pushing you to actually grow or evolve. There are no hurdles, no real struggles—everything is just handed to you on a silver platter. You basically turn into a lazy house cat, just lounging around all day, eating and getting soft until you're nothing but a lump of lethargy... and that happens to your mind, too. It applies to people just as much as anything else...

Look, there's another thing—your whole theory doesn't even hold up in the real world. I mean, for you to actually enjoy any of this stuff, someone else has to go out and build it just to hand it to you on a silver platter... So, sure, maybe you can play the spoiled princess role if you want, but that’s only possible because of everyone else—the people out there actually working their tails off to fund your little whims and all those resources you're burning through while doing nothing... The truth is, none of us can live like that. Just because you think you can exploit other people's kindness or naivety to make your life easy doesn't mean that's how things work. That's just an outlier, not the rule...

At the end of the day, I think true happiness is all about that sweet spot—finding that perfect balance between the material stuff and the spiritual side of things. It’s about balancing the rewards you get with the actual grind you put in... plus that emotional equilibrium where what you give to others feels right compared to what comes back to you. You've gotta hit those core human needs first, though... otherwise, nothing else really sticks...

So many celebrities just completely lose the plot because they end up with everything they could ever dream of—it's wild. It’s actually pretty interesting to watch how life has a way of balancing the scales... honestly, any kind of extreme usually ends up crashing and burning pretty fast...

It's not like I'm saying I want people to fund my lifestyle, not at all; I'm saying that when you earn a massive amount of money on your own and then have the freedom to do whatever you want with it—that's where the real happiness is.
Frank Flores63 Frank Flores63 Member
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#63 ·
If I’m looking for some guidance on which direction to take my life, or if I need someone to help untangle the mental fog I find myself in, I go see my therapist, have a deep conversation, and—well, I pay them.
If my goal is to look better or just feel more comfortable in my own skin, I make an appointment with my dermatologist to get some Botox or maybe load up on dermal fillers—and again, there's a bill at the end.
If I want to mend things with my niece and actually build a real bond, I have to be kind to her, spend quality time together, take her out for ice cream, hit up an amusement park or a haunted house, and buy her those trendy jeans or a new iPhone. So, once more, I need money.
Even if I just want to pack it all in, head to the airport, and disappear for a few days, I still need the cash for flights, hotels, and food.
Even a simple trip to a nearby state park to listen to the birds chirping requires gas and a car, which, predictably, costs money.
My dog brings me so much joy, but that dog needs food, medical care, and regular checkups at the vet, all of which require payment.
What can I even say? Money is inextricably linked to almost everything that makes me happy. It’s woven into the very fabric of a fulfilling life, and honestly, trying to fight against that reality seems completely pointless.
Sam Grant17 Sam Grant17 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2018
#64 ·
Buying luck? Hard pass.

Forging your own path to get there? Now you're talking.
Thomas Hernandez10 Thomas Hernandez10 Newcomer
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#65 ·
Frank Flores63 said:If I’m looking for some guidance on which direction to take my life, or if I need someone to help untangle the mental fog I find myself in, I go see my therapist, have a deep conversation, and—well, I pay them.
If my goal is to look better or just feel more comfortable in my own skin, I make an appointment with my dermatologist to get some Botox or maybe load up on dermal fillers—and again, there's a bill at the end.
If I want to mend things with my niece and actually build a real bond, I have to be kind to her, spend quality time together, take her out for ice cream, hit up an amusement park or a haunted house, and buy her those trendy jeans or a new iPhone. So, once more, I need money.
Even if I just want to pack it all in, head to the airport, and disappear for a few days, I still need the cash for flights, hotels, and food.
Even a simple trip to a nearby state park to listen to the birds chirping requires gas and a car, which, predictably, costs money.
My dog brings me so much joy, but that dog needs food, medical care, and regular checkups at the vet, all of which require payment.
What can I even say? Money is inextricably linked to almost everything that makes me happy. It’s woven into the very fabric of a fulfilling life, and honestly, trying to fight against that reality seems completely pointless.

thanks! People are just conditioned to have this weird resistance toward money. They act like it's somehow "evil," but it really isn't. Money is actually amazing, and it’s basically just a tool to help us reach happiness (even if everyone defines happiness differently). Honestly, posts like this that overanalyze whether money equals happiness drive me crazy. People who've never actually had a decent amount of it just... they probably won't ever truly get it.🍿
Carol Barrett50 Carol Barrett50 Newcomer
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#66 ·
I guess if you find yourself feeling happier while you actually have it, rather than when it's gone, then maybe it works out. 🙂
Susan Davis4 Susan Davis4 Member
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joined May 2014
#67 ·
Nope.
rustymarlin16 rustymarlin16 Newcomer
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#68 ·
Never.

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Dana Mendoza3 Dana Mendoza3 Newcomer
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#69 ·
Look, I’m all for the whole "money can't buy you happiness, love, or health" mantra, but let's get real—you can't survive without it either. When you're dealing with a medical crisis or trying to pay for treatment, cash isn't just nice, it's mandatory. I spent a huge chunk of my life scraping by, and trust me, I know what it's like to be stuck in an apartment with no power, trying to put kids to bed in the dark... or going to sleep hungry because there was nothing in the pantry. It’s that gut-wrenching feeling where you have to choose between eating yourself or buying a loaf of bread for your kid. Those moments? They toughened me up, mentally and morally, for sure—but don't kid yourself, having money would have made life a hell of a lot easier. Now, whether that money could actually take away the pain of everything we went through or somehow buy back our happiness? That’s a conversation that could go on forever. lp
Nancy Lee84 Nancy Lee84 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#70 ·
Can you actually buy misery with cash?... I mean, come on...
Morgan Chase5 Morgan Chase5 Active Member
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joined Sep 2012
#71 ·
Happiness doesn't come with a price tag👍
Nancy Lee84 Nancy Lee84 Member
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#72 ·
Morgan Chase5 said:Happiness doesn't come with a price tag👍


So some scientists are out here claiming that being lucky or unlucky is basically just a genetic lottery played out in your brain chemistry... like we're all born with a set amount of "happiness potential" baked in. Honestly, that biological determinism thing sounds pretty legit to me, but there's more to the story than just DNA.
I actually stumbled upon this quote by John Stuart Mill in a research paper that goes something like: "Given the state of the world—paradoxical as that may sound—the conscious ability to exist without happiness offers the best shot at actually finding it."

I guess I was just trying to point out how incredibly cliché the whole debate is...
John Gonzalez252 John Gonzalez252 Newcomer
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#73 ·
Well, it’s possible... absolutely. I mean, sure, you can't buy that primal, soul-deep kind of happiness with a credit card, but let's be realistic: money is the tool we use to actually navigate life's necessities. Honestly, I think people who claim they don't need to spend anything should try living on the streets for a week without a dime to their name before they start lecturing others.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#74 ·
John Gonzalez252 said:Well, it’s possible... absolutely. I mean, sure, you can't buy that primal, soul-deep kind of happiness with a credit card, but let's be realistic: money is the tool we use to actually navigate life's necessities. Honestly, I think people who claim they don't need to spend anything should try living on the streets for a week without a dime to their name before they start lecturing others.

You hit the nail on the head. Money can absolutely buy happiness, provided you actually have the sense to know how to manage it. Sadly, most people don't. Just look at the lottery winners who strike it rich and end up homeless within five years.

take this example:
Loto Lothar
One of the most high-profile cautionary tales of a fallen lottery winner is a German man named Lothar Kuzydlowski, who won four million dollars back in 1994. At the time, Lothar decided to just live for the moment—he left his wife, bought a Lamborghini, and jetted off to Puerto Rico. Once there, he burned through everything on women, luxury cars, horse racing, booze, and constant partying. He ended up dying alone just four years later due to excessive drinking, leaving his wife without a single cent.


And the flip side:
Easy come, easy go.
Everyone will tell you Janita Lee was a wonderful woman—except, perhaps, to herself. Back in 1993, she hit the jackpot in the state lottery in Missouri, winning $18 million. But instead of setting aside even a fraction to secure her future, she handed it all out to schools, political campaigns, and various "charitable" organizations. She was so incredibly naive that they played her for fools; eight years later, she filed for bankruptcy. Today, she lives in a trailer, and after that massive windfall, she’s left with a grand total of $700 in her account.


Susan Davis4 said:Nope.

YES:
😁
Morgan Chase5 Morgan Chase5 Active Member
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#75 ·
Nancy Lee84 said:So some scientists are out here claiming that being lucky or unlucky is basically just a genetic lottery played out in your brain chemistry... like we're all born with a set amount of "happiness potential" baked in. Honestly, that biological determinism thing sounds pretty legit to me, but there's more to the story than just DNA.
I actually stumbled upon this quote by John Stuart Mill in a research paper that goes something like: "Given the state of the world—paradoxical as that may sound—the conscious ability to exist without happiness offers the best shot at actually finding it."

I guess I was just trying to point out how incredibly cliché the whole debate is...

I quite enjoy this perspective.
And yes... it is a banal question.

Over at Yankee Stadium, gray herons build their nests in the tops of slender pine trees.
Happiness is simply having the ability to watch them.
They spread their wings, gliding smoothly through the air, returning with long, thin twigs, fluttering their wings as they land on a branch to offer a little twig to their partner to weave into the nest.
Morgan Chase5 Morgan Chase5 Active Member
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joined Sep 2012
#76 ·
"The conscious capacity to simply exist without needing happiness..."
this really strikes a chord with me.
Christian Wilson28 Christian Wilson28 Member
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#77 ·
People who claim money and looks don't matter—they usually aren't ugly or broke themselves, right?😬
Dana Mendoza3 Dana Mendoza3 Newcomer
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#78 ·
Christian Wilson28 said:People who claim money and looks don't matter—they usually aren't ugly or broke themselves, right?😬

I’m signing that right now. Don't trust a hungry man—and honestly, I feel like I hear that "money isn't everything" line most often from people who are absolutely drowning in cash...
Sophia Lopez112 Sophia Lopez112 Newcomer
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#79 ·
Absolutely and simply—YES.

The real issue is that people don't view money as a tool to achieve a goal, they treat the money itself as the endgame,
and frankly, most people have no clue how to actually use that tool.
Questions and philosophies like this only pop up because of the social and psychological fallout from human... well, stupidity.

More cash means more existential security (which leads to a much better headspace and less stress) plus way more options (for school, leveling up your skills, moving cities, or just changing your whole life around...)
granitedrifter66 granitedrifter66 Newcomer
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#80 ·
Money definitely can't buy happiness.

The opening post lays out the whole situation perfectly.
We all need food, water, clothes, and a roof over our heads—somewhere dry and warm. We have bills to pay. For that, you need money. Just enough to cover the basics of survival.
To actually feel good, though, you need those extras. Everyone picks their own path: books, theater, sports, fishing, cars, traveling... you name it. That part is endless. The more money you make, the more there’s always some new thing you want that’s just slightly out of reach. People really ought to learn how to enjoy that middle ground—finding value in what they build and spending that extra cash to create happy moments for themselves and their families.
But that's where it ends.
Excessive wealth? From what I see, it's destructive. It hits the individual and the family unit hard. Often, in these situations, people start chasing this idea of "new happiness." They lean on modern concepts about the "right to happiness" to tear down traditional values—those old-school, often religious frameworks. Sometimes it's about gender equality or identity politics... everything goes. All barriers are gone. Everything is permitted.

The best things in life that bring true happiness don't cost a dime. Love. For a spouse. For parents, for kids. You can't buy that kind of love and have it be real. If you're buying it, it's fake. It's not the real deal.

😁

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