The Trilateral Commission - America

First off, I should mention I lean toward the Democratic side of things, but I’m really trying to stay objective when looking at what’s actually going down in the American political scene.

But let's get to the meat of it...

The Trilateral Commission is basically this group of politicians working to bridge the gaps between Europe, the USA, and Japan—setting up new diplomatic ties, beefing up economic connections, blah blah blah...
It was founded by David Rockefeller, that controversial American banker and economist.

The American members of the TC include Kolinda Grabar Kitarović (former) , the late attorney Marijan Hanžeković (former) , entrepreneur Emil Tedeschi , and banker Franjo Luković .

Once she stepped into the presidency, KGK left the Trilateral Commission, even though she still shows up on those lists of former members.

So here's my question: why aren't the media outlets talking about this stuff anymore? And look, I'm not talking conspiracy theories; these are straight-up facts.
The media is supposed to be out there representing the truth, but instead, they just feed us cheap populism and political demagoguery right before elections.

From what we see, it's pretty obvious how TC members operate on a transnational level, collaborating to push their own agendas.
Take the late attorney Marijan Hanžeković, for example—he was famous for being the guy who went after countless American citizens.
Just to be clear, I'm all for people being able to settle their debts, but you can't just have a bill skyrocket by 500% or 1000% overnight.

The logical question would be whether this is the smoking gun for the existence of an NWO, but I know half of you would probably just label me a conspiracy theorist.

To wrap this up, I'll leave you with this quote from Max Weber regarding bureaucracy:
"The objective necessity of an apparatus that once exists, combined with its inherent impersonality, means that—unlike feudal orders based on personal loyalty—it is ready to work for anyone clever enough to seize control over it."

Sources
http://trilateral.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission
https://www.nytimes.com/example-link-placeholder

I'd love to hear what you guys think about all this. 😉

silentsurfer3 said:First off, I should mention I lean toward the Democratic side of things, but I’m really trying to stay objective when looking at what’s actually going down in the American political scene.

But let's get to the meat of it...

The Trilateral Commission is basically this group of politicians working to bridge the gaps between Europe, the USA, and Japan—setting up new diplomatic ties, beefing up economic connections, blah blah blah...
It was founded by David Rockefeller, that controversial American banker and economist.

The American members of the TC include Kolinda Grabar Kitarović (former) , the late attorney Marijan Hanžeković (former) , entrepreneur Emil Tedeschi , and banker Franjo Luković .

Once she stepped into the presidency, KGK left the Trilateral Commission, even though she still shows up on those lists of former members.

So here's my question: why aren't the media outlets talking about this stuff anymore? And look, I'm not talking conspiracy theories; these are straight-up facts.
The media is supposed to be out there representing the truth, but instead, they just feed us cheap populism and political demagoguery right before elections.

From what we see, it's pretty obvious how TC members operate on a transnational level, collaborating to push their own agendas.
Take the late attorney Marijan Hanžeković, for example—he was famous for being the guy who went after countless American citizens.
Just to be clear, I'm all for people being able to settle their debts, but you can't just have a bill skyrocket by 500% or 1000% overnight.

The logical question would be whether this is the smoking gun for the existence of an NWO, but I know half of you would probably just label me a conspiracy theorist.

To wrap this up, I'll leave you with this quote from Max Weber regarding bureaucracy:
"The objective necessity of an apparatus that once exists, combined with its inherent impersonality, means that—unlike feudal orders based on personal loyalty—it is ready to work for anyone clever enough to seize control over it."

Sources
http://trilateral.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission
https://www.nytimes.com/example-link-placeholder

I'd love to hear what you guys think about all this. 😉

And then what? What exactly are they supposed to write about? Should they report on how the wealthy and the powerful collaborate with other wealthy and powerful people to help each other out?

Stop the presses, for God's sake.

I feel like some things get unnecessarily mystified for no real reason... at the end of the day, the Trilateral Commission is just a group of people meeting up to hash things out, which isn't inherently a bad thing. The issue is that since they occupy such high-profile positions, it tends to trigger people—it makes them itch with suspicion about what they’re actually discussing behind closed doors and who these people think they are.

bluesurfer6 said:I feel like some things get unnecessarily mystified for no real reason... at the end of the day, the Trilateral Commission is just a group of people meeting up to hash things out, which isn't inherently a bad thing. The issue is that since they occupy such high-profile positions, it tends to trigger people—it makes them itch with suspicion about what they’re actually discussing behind closed doors and who these people think they are.

I can't help but wonder how people would react if a similar gathering took place right here in America, where politicians, entrepreneurs, union leaders, bankers, judges, religious figures, and various dignitaries all met, but then kept everything strictly under wraps—no details on their discussions, no conclusions shared, and total media blackout on what actually went down at the social.

What do you think? Would the public still feel that "itch" if, following such a meeting, long-standing issues were suddenly resolved or if major decisions affecting the citizens and the nation were finally implemented?

Would the skepticism of the citizenry then just be dismissed as mere "mystification"?
p.s.

Think about the massive uproar that occurred when Kolinda Grabar Kitarović visited the USA without a clearly defined agenda; yet, somehow, a gathering of the most influential people on the planet is treated as nothing more than a conspiracy theory.🙂

urbanotter said:I can't help but wonder how people would react if a similar gathering took place right here in America, where politicians, entrepreneurs, union leaders, bankers, judges, religious figures, and various dignitaries all met, but then kept everything strictly under wraps—no details on their discussions, no conclusions shared, and total media blackout on what actually went down at the social.

What do you think? Would the public still feel that "itch" if, following such a meeting, long-standing issues were suddenly resolved or if major decisions affecting the citizens and the nation were finally implemented?

Would the skepticism of the citizenry then just be dismissed as mere "mystification"?
p.s.

Think about the massive uproar that occurred when Kolinda Grabar Kitarović visited the USA without a clearly defined agenda; yet, somehow, a gathering of the most influential people on the planet is treated as nothing more than a conspiracy theory.🙂

Look, there are official meetings and unofficial ones. When it's an official meeting, they’re actually obligated to state what's being discussed. It’s pretty straightforward.
And honestly, I have no idea how you managed to link America to the Trilateral Commission.?!
In our neck of the woods, we hold meetings both publicly and privately, and absolutely nothing ever gets resolved.😁
Regarding the Trilateral Commission, here’s the deal:
The Trilateral Commission is a private association founded in 1973 to promote closer ties between the USA, Europe, and Japan. Pay close attention to the fact that this is a private group.
And besides that specific group, there are dozens of other similar organizations that meet regularly.

It’s not just about the Trilateral Commission, man—you’ve got the Committee of 300, the Bilderberg Group, Rotary International, and the Lions Club International all in the mix. There’s actually research out there looking at how guys like Ivo Sanders, Jadranka Kosor, Ivo Josipović, Milan Bandić, and even the Rotarians like Čačić are all part of this. You think presidential elections are these two sides clashing? Please. It’s really just Kolinda Grabar Kitarović from the Trilateral Commission versus someone like Josipović from Rotary. Even back in the day, you had the matchups like Jovipović vs Bandić, both Rotarians. And don't even get me started on Franjo Harmon—he was part of that whole "Dragon" society; his ceremonial name was basically the "Dragon of America." Sounds a bit ridiculous, right? But these organizations are dead serious. Even Marijan Hanžeković, alongside his work with the Trilateral Commission, was a high-ranking Mason who used to meet regularly in Mexico City, which is tied directly to London—the global epicenter of Masonry. He actually admitted openly on Nu2 that the Masons were the ones who dismantled feudalism—basically, they sparked the French Revolution. If you don't believe me, there's footage out there; just go watch it.

Look, power structures are supranational now because the market is globalized. These people are essentially the guardians of the French Revolution and the gatekeepers of the liberal elite. They operate under a Constitution—which, if you translate it, just means the rules *they* wrote. Any violation of those rules means heading to court and facing penalties. Just look at how much Stanković was shaking when the Mason Miki Manojlović showed up on his show, or how he wouldn't dare provoke Hanžeković during an interview—he was suspiciously polite. When dealing with these theories, you have to stick to the facts, because there's always this massive sabotage attempt to make people think we're talking about lizard people or aliens, which are just fairy tales used to discredit the truth. The organizations I mentioned are real, and you can verify everything online. The entire European Union is part of this machine. You don't even need to be a member; you just have to be a loyal citizen of this order. That’s level zero of the hierarchy. Hanžeković was so deep in it he hit the 33rd degree, the same rank as Winston Churchill. The whole education system, the entire structure of society—it's all designed by their model. It’s basically a club for influential elites, and of course they hang out together. It's not some wild philosophy; interest groups exist everywhere, even in the lowest levels of society.

We're talking about a club where people can indulge in orgies, drugs, and private parties that your average Joe couldn't dream of accessing. In America, there are these luxury estates—massive villas—where this stuff goes down, guarded by private security, owned by people with superyachts and all that. I know for a fact this happens, but it’s not smart to leak the locations; these guys have massive wealth, incredible intellect, and sexual drives that would blow a normal person's mind. You find out that the top dealers are basically supplying the private sector while working for the police, who then facilitate the supply chain, only to catch some idiot who doesn't know how to move product and ends up rotting in jail for free. I saw some bizarre things myself at a company I used to work for—listening to the workers, you'd hear how the boss would force them into these degrading tasks, like making everyone clean the floors with tiny little toothbrushes on all fours. Once you see the connection, it clicks. If you find one starting point, you realize that guy was likely involved, directly or indirectly. Basically, the world is run by a mafia that has one set of rules for themselves and a totally different set for us. When you report someone to the cops, you're often just reporting a criminal to other criminals, except the cop doesn't even realize it because he hasn't studied the subject and is too busy protecting his paycheck. Remember the case of Mark Francisković? He was tossed into a psych ward just for being politically incorrect, pumped full of meds, only for it to be found later that he was perfectly sane. That was just a warning shot to anyone trying to oppose the order. The guy straight-up says he isn't for democracy—even though both indirect and direct democracy (communism) were created by them. Hanžeković openly admits Masons triggered the French Revolution, and Churchill, who was also a 33rd-degree Mason (check the Grand British Lodge), even wrote an article: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

...that even direct democracy was their invention because they had to tear down the monarchy, which stood against everything they wanted. Back then, antisemitism spiked, and Russia was the only nation still holding the line—their only real threat. Not anymore, though. It was the same with the Habsburg Monarchy acting as a counter-revolutionary force. Today, they've grown so powerful they have no real competition. Israeli nationalists (Zionists) hold special privileges; they’re the ones who sank the USS Liberty, yet there wasn't a war, whereas when the Germans sank a ship near Great Britain, that was the excuse for the US to enter the war. They triggered a series of terror actions against the British and didn't even blink, and that's coming from the capital of Masonry. Why? Because the Masons are building Solomon's Temple—the Third Temple—which the Romans destroyed in Jerusalem after crushing their rebellion, just like the Babylonians did before them. And the Israeli Sanhedrin has officially called out Trump and Putin regarding this:http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78...ple-jerusalem/

That temple is supposed to be the headquarters for the future ruler of the world—I mean, think about it. That’s why we see all this endless conflict with Muslims; they’re basically just clearing the path to expand borders and fulfill those Biblical prophecies about ruling over every nation on Earth. They managed to brainwash people into believing in their god, making everyone live in total awe of them. Even the Catholic Church is stuck in this cycle—just one aging, senile organization run by former Roman pontiffs who used to laugh at that desert deity, Yahweh. Honestly, once I realized how deep this goes, I tossed my Bible straight into the trash. They really pulled it off, didn't they? Convincing us that our ancestors' gods—the ones with horns and spirits—were actually demons or something negative. They made us believe the Odyssey and the Iliad were bad, while somehow portraying their struggles against Palestinians as "righteous." We’re taught from childhood to bow down to their kings and treat them like saints. Our "saviors" aren't even the Slavic warriors dying in battle anymore; now it's just some crucified Hebrew figure who surrenders without a fight. It's all one big manipulation driven through religion. You've got the liberal elite worshipping a fabricated Satan, the communist elite bowing to the myth of Marx, and the right-wing elites obsessed with the Nazarene—but make no mistake, it’s all a setup by the Rabbis, where Yahweh always comes out on top.

bluesurfer6 said:Look, there are official meetings and unofficial ones. When it's an official meeting, they’re actually obligated to state what's being discussed. It’s pretty straightforward.
And honestly, I have no idea how you managed to link America to the Trilateral Commission.?!
In our neck of the woods, we hold meetings both publicly and privately, and absolutely nothing ever gets resolved.😁
Regarding the Trilateral Commission, here’s the deal:
The Trilateral Commission is a private association founded in 1973 to promote closer ties between the USA, Europe, and Japan. Pay close attention to the fact that this is a private group.
And besides that specific group, there are dozens of other similar organizations that meet regularly.

If that's true, then why even bother with diplomacy or the United Nations?
Why is membership something you can only get by invitation?

Don't be naive. Only kids are that naive.
The world isn't some big green marble where everyone is just being honest with one another.

Quote: People of The same trade Selda meet together , even for merriment and diversion

Steven Murphy2 said:It’s not just about the Trilateral Commission, man—you’ve got the Committee of 300, the Bilderberg Group, Rotary International, and the Lions Club International all in the mix. There’s actually research out there looking at how guys like Ivo Sanders, Jadranka Kosor, Ivo Josipović, Milan Bandić, and even the Rotarians like Čačić are all part of this. You think presidential elections are these two sides clashing? Please. It’s really just Kolinda Grabar Kitarović from the Trilateral Commission versus someone like Josipović from Rotary. Even back in the day, you had the matchups like Jovipović vs Bandić, both Rotarians. And don't even get me started on Franjo Harmon—he was part of that whole "Dragon" society; his ceremonial name was basically the "Dragon of America." Sounds a bit ridiculous, right? But these organizations are dead serious. Even Marijan Hanžeković, alongside his work with the Trilateral Commission, was a high-ranking Mason who used to meet regularly in Mexico City, which is tied directly to London—the global epicenter of Masonry. He actually admitted openly on Nu2 that the Masons were the ones who dismantled feudalism—basically, they sparked the French Revolution. If you don't believe me, there's footage out there; just go watch it.

Look, power structures are supranational now because the market is globalized. These people are essentially the guardians of the French Revolution and the gatekeepers of the liberal elite. They operate under a Constitution—which, if you translate it, just means the rules *they* wrote. Any violation of those rules means heading to court and facing penalties. Just look at how much Stanković was shaking when the Mason Miki Manojlović showed up on his show, or how he wouldn't dare provoke Hanžeković during an interview—he was suspiciously polite. When dealing with these theories, you have to stick to the facts, because there's always this massive sabotage attempt to make people think we're talking about lizard people or aliens, which are just fairy tales used to discredit the truth. The organizations I mentioned are real, and you can verify everything online. The entire European Union is part of this machine. You don't even need to be a member; you just have to be a loyal citizen of this order. That’s level zero of the hierarchy. Hanžeković was so deep in it he hit the 33rd degree, the same rank as Winston Churchill. The whole education system, the entire structure of society—it's all designed by their model. It’s basically a club for influential elites, and of course they hang out together. It's not some wild philosophy; interest groups exist everywhere, even in the lowest levels of society.

We're talking about a club where people can indulge in orgies, drugs, and private parties that your average Joe couldn't dream of accessing. In America, there are these luxury estates—massive villas—where this stuff goes down, guarded by private security, owned by people with superyachts and all that. I know for a fact this happens, but it’s not smart to leak the locations; these guys have massive wealth, incredible intellect, and sexual drives that would blow a normal person's mind. You find out that the top dealers are basically supplying the private sector while working for the police, who then facilitate the supply chain, only to catch some idiot who doesn't know how to move product and ends up rotting in jail for free. I saw some bizarre things myself at a company I used to work for—listening to the workers, you'd hear how the boss would force them into these degrading tasks, like making everyone clean the floors with tiny little toothbrushes on all fours. Once you see the connection, it clicks. If you find one starting point, you realize that guy was likely involved, directly or indirectly. Basically, the world is run by a mafia that has one set of rules for themselves and a totally different set for us. When you report someone to the cops, you're often just reporting a criminal to other criminals, except the cop doesn't even realize it because he hasn't studied the subject and is too busy protecting his paycheck. Remember the case of Mark Francisković? He was tossed into a psych ward just for being politically incorrect, pumped full of meds, only for it to be found later that he was perfectly sane. That was just a warning shot to anyone trying to oppose the order. The guy straight-up says he isn't for democracy—even though both indirect and direct democracy (communism) were created by them. Hanžeković openly admits Masons triggered the French Revolution, and Churchill, who was also a 33rd-degree Mason (check the Grand British Lodge), even wrote an article: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

...that even direct democracy was their invention because they had to tear down the monarchy, which stood against everything they wanted. Back then, antisemitism spiked, and Russia was the only nation still holding the line—their only real threat. Not anymore, though. It was the same with the Habsburg Monarchy acting as a counter-revolutionary force. Today, they've grown so powerful they have no real competition. Israeli nationalists (Zionists) hold special privileges; they’re the ones who sank the USS Liberty, yet there wasn't a war, whereas when the Germans sank a ship near Great Britain, that was the excuse for the US to enter the war. They triggered a series of terror actions against the British and didn't even blink, and that's coming from the capital of Masonry. Why? Because the Masons are building Solomon's Temple—the Third Temple—which the Romans destroyed in Jerusalem after crushing their rebellion, just like the Babylonians did before them. And the Israeli Sanhedrin has officially called out Trump and Putin regarding this:http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/78...ple-jerusalem/

That temple is supposed to be the headquarters for the future ruler of the world—I mean, think about it. That’s why we see all this endless conflict with Muslims; they’re basically just clearing the path to expand borders and fulfill those Biblical prophecies about ruling over every nation on Earth. They managed to brainwash people into believing in their god, making everyone live in total awe of them. Even the Catholic Church is stuck in this cycle—just one aging, senile organization run by former Roman pontiffs who used to laugh at that desert deity, Yahweh. Honestly, once I realized how deep this goes, I tossed my Bible straight into the trash. They really pulled it off, didn't they? Convincing us that our ancestors' gods—the ones with horns and spirits—were actually demons or something negative. They made us believe the Odyssey and the Iliad were bad, while somehow portraying their struggles against Palestinians as "righteous." We’re taught from childhood to bow down to their kings and treat them like saints. Our "saviors" aren't even the Slavic warriors dying in battle anymore; now it's just some crucified Hebrew figure who surrenders without a fight. It's all one big manipulation driven through religion. You've got the liberal elite worshipping a fabricated Satan, the communist elite bowing to the myth of Marx, and the right-wing elites obsessed with the Nazarene—but make no mistake, it’s all a setup by the Rabbis, where Yahweh always comes out on top.

I'm pretty convinced that these conspiracy theories—the ones that turn everything into alien mysticism (not that I don't call the elite "lizards" myself, given how cruel they are)—are actually their own creation. Because the second anyone starts questioning the motives of the elite, they slap the "conspiracy theorist" label on them.

Still, these laws against verbal offenses... maybe they're just a sign that people are finally starting to wake up and figure things out.

Just a little peek at how the global elite spends their time and honestly, it’s no wonder we’re stuck in this endless loop of crises and wars. It’s just pure degeneracy on repeat.

Just a few more thoughts on this whole New World Order thing

That’s exactly why we went with Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović. She represented a clear commitment to integration—opening up so many doors and providing access to the kind of influential circles that matter...
We're talking about people who wouldn't even get a seat at the table if someone like Barack Obama were running the show in the US.

The banks, the media, the political establishment—they’re all moving in the same direction. Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with being part of those elite groups; in fact, I’d argue it’s a massive advantage. Take Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović, for instance; I might not have even cast my vote for her if she wasn't part of the Trilateral Commission, or if we hadn't been forced to deal with that whole election farce. Though, then again, maybe I still would have... it's just painful watching these local amateurs stumble through politics when they aren't even in her league. At best, they're six levels below her caliber...🍿

Just some thoughts on this... the idea that the Trilateral Commission actually exists isn't news, nor is it some shocking revelation. The machinery behind it all feels entirely impersonal, and honestly, I think Adam Smith hit the nail on the head when he said

People of the same trade Selda meet together , even for merriment and diversion

- it really is.
The only real question worth asking is whether we’re better off having our own people inside those circles, or if it’s better to stay away entirely. Are we the subjects or the actors? To me, there shouldn't be much of a dilemma there...

velvetcanyon20 said:Just some thoughts on this... the idea that the Trilateral Commission actually exists isn't news, nor is it some shocking revelation. The machinery behind it all feels entirely impersonal, and honestly, I think Adam Smith hit the nail on the head when he said

People of the same trade Selda meet together , even for merriment and diversion

- it really is.
The only real question worth asking is whether we’re better off having our own people inside those circles, or if it’s better to stay away entirely. Are we the subjects or the actors? To me, there shouldn't be much of a dilemma there...

There's no way he'd sell out to the Grammys!

It's pretty clear that the US and Mexico are basically running the same show when it comes to leadership

I'm dying to know what Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović is going to talk about with Aleksandar Vučić, and if she'll actually call him a true humanist or whatever!

Honestly, I’d take a bunch of local hillbillies running the show over this global elite any day. Those guys are never satisfied with just their fair share, they always want everything. watch the whole video, it's worth it.

It’s all just "what if" this and "maybe" that. If these things actually exist—if plans are truly being drawn up behind closed doors—you really don't want to be left out in the cold. Because if you don't have a seat at the table, you're essentially flying blind. You won't know what's coming, and you certainly won't have any way to change the outcome. You won't even know who to talk to...
When you have access, you actually understand the landscape, and more importantly, you gain a level of influence. It’s much better to be the one holding the reins of your own fate rather than just a puppet on a string, completely unaware that someone else is pulling the wires...

We all know what Stanković is about, but man, check out how humble he acts when he's hanging out with those high-ranking Masons

The Trilateral Commission isn't some conspiracy by the USA to bring in people based on negative selection. If we actually had our rights respected—say, if we were entitled to ten representatives in the Commission and at least six or seven seats in Congress—most of this 90% nonsense would have been settled ages ago. I mean, if the old regime had sent people with actual substance to those meetings, they probably could have bypassed the entire bloody mess of the nineties and moved forward peacefully... just playing devil's advocate here, exploring alternatives...
I’m skipping the video; I don't have the stomach for idiots, and honestly, I’ve rarely heard two intelligent things come out of Congress. Whatever Bulj is rambling about doesn't really seem to involve much brainpower. Some people might get fired up by that kind of trash, but if you ask me, he's just one of the most incompetent people in the building.

Sorry for dropping another international link here, , but honestly, who cares about our local little circles? If you actually want to find where the real power lies, you have to look at which global groups our politicians are running with.

This video pretty much spells out how these organizations are all tightly knit. Then we act all shocked when every single politician ends up voting the exact same way. It’s kind of predictable, really.

I mean, let's face it—American politicians are basically part of the same skull and bones crowd. That skull and crossbones flag is a pretty familiar sight around here, isn't it?

velvetcanyon20 said:The Trilateral Commission isn't some conspiracy by the USA to bring in people based on negative selection. If we actually had our rights respected—say, if we were entitled to ten representatives in the Commission and at least six or seven seats in Congress—most of this 90% nonsense would have been settled ages ago. I mean, if the old regime had sent people with actual substance to those meetings, they probably could have bypassed the entire bloody mess of the nineties and moved forward peacefully... just playing devil's advocate here, exploring alternatives...
I’m skipping the video; I don't have the stomach for idiots, and honestly, I’ve rarely heard two intelligent things come out of Congress. Whatever Bulj is rambling about doesn't really seem to involve much brainpower. Some people might get fired up by that kind of trash, but if you ask me, he's just one of the most incompetent people in the building.

I'll admit, I can't watch these Masonic types either. My stomach just turns 🙂

The thing is, politicians are constantly lecturing us about tolerance, democracy, and reforms... when in reality, a certain bunch of slimy characters—as Šeks would say—are the ones actually running our lives, trapping us all under the guise of "peace, stability, and human rights."

Why do politicians keep feeding us this line about being a fully sovereign, independent nation when it’s pretty obvious the elite is just one single, unified group?