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Sam Robinson Sam Robinson MemberOP
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#1 ·
"We associate sexual contest with masculinity..." The Mask You Live In - documentary movie

"Awaken masculine," be an "alpha," act "cool," "real men don't cry," or "emotions are for weaklings"—these toxic, destructive clichés tear down boys, young men, and men alike. They strip away any chance at genuine, cooperative community. Yet, even on a forum like this, we still act shocked. We wonder why divorce rates are skyrocketing, why infidelity is so rampant, why there’s such profound emotional unavailability, or why we see so much violence and sexual assault... etc... ?

The Mask You Live In:
does a pretty solid job of documenting this exact issue, and I'd really like to open up a discussion about it with all of you. So, to my fellow members: what are your thoughts on this forced emotional inhibition? And what do you make of how men try to "compensate" for everything that is deemed "socially unacceptable" or "unutterable" through sex, alcohol, drugs, and other addictions? Is that truly the "only" path left for young men when they are crushed under this societal mandate? 🍿
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#2 ·
Who’s down to put on a mask? Honestly, if you don't, you'll just end up stuck being yourself. But hey, those "boundaries" we talk about? They're really just in our heads, right? I truly believe people feel their absolute best when they can just live authentically. Sure, if you're more of an introvert, things might feel a little tougher sometimes. But what can you do? You've gotta keep moving forward. Eventually, you'll find better ways to navigate it all.
Sam Robinson Sam Robinson MemberOP
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#3 ·
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Carl Rivera43. At the end of the day, life really does come down to the choices we make. But what about our boys? Can we honestly expect them to hold their ground against a society that starts feeding them toxic nonsense from the time they enter the school system? It’s all built on completely false premises and twisted logic. Have you had a chance to watch The Mask You Live In - documentary movie that I linked? What’s your take on it?
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#4 ·
Sam Robinson said:Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Carl Rivera43. At the end of the day, life really does come down to the choices we make. But what about our boys? Can we honestly expect them to hold their ground against a society that starts feeding them toxic nonsense from the time they enter the school system? It’s all built on completely false premises and twisted logic. Have you had a chance to watch The Mask You Live In - documentary movie that I linked? What’s your take on it?

I can't get the video to play; I keep getting an error.

Why would we expect that from boys? Honestly, once they start noticing which paths are dead ends, they'll likely go looking for better ways to live. Life is one long learning curve, isn't it? Age doesn't really matter when it comes to figuring things out.
Sam Robinson Sam Robinson MemberOP
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#5 ·
My apologies. If you're looking to check out that incredible documentary, The Mask You Live In (it’s only available in English, unfortunately), you can find it at this link:



The reality of bullying really speaks for itself. From a young age, boys are pressured to conform to this narrow, societal definition of what it means to "be a man." It almost always boils down to suppressing emotions—specifically, a total rejection of expressing how they actually feel. In our culture, showing vulnerability is often branded as "feminine" or just plain "loser" behavior. As a result, these boys grow into emotionally stunted teenagers, and eventually, even more repressed men. The roots of sexism and homophobia are planted right there in phrases like "man up." The documentary is also fascinating because it touches on the current debates surrounding single-sex schooling, where that whole "man up" mentality could end up being paired with even more segregation...
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#6 ·
Sam Robinson said:My apologies. If you're looking to check out that incredible documentary, The Mask You Live In (it’s only available in English, unfortunately), you can find it at this link:



The reality of bullying really speaks for itself. From a young age, boys are pressured to conform to this narrow, societal definition of what it means to "be a man." It almost always boils down to suppressing emotions—specifically, a total rejection of expressing how they actually feel. In our culture, showing vulnerability is often branded as "feminine" or just plain "loser" behavior. As a result, these boys grow into emotionally stunted teenagers, and eventually, even more repressed men. The roots of sexism and homophobia are planted right there in phrases like "man up." The documentary is also fascinating because it touches on the current debates surrounding single-sex schooling, where that whole "man up" mentality could end up being paired with even more segregation...


Honestly, it's just not right. Men and women both have emotions, and it's honestly bizarre how often we're expected to hide them.
Sam Robinson Sam Robinson MemberOP
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#7 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:Honestly, it's just not right. Men and women both have emotions, and it's honestly bizarre how often we're expected to hide them.

I couldn't agree more. It is fundamentally bizarre to force anyone into some "socially acceptable" mold of masculinity or femininity. Yet, most ridiculously, this happens every single day all over the country—and frankly, even right here on this forum. We're dealing with a massive, systemic taboo. Maybe I should have moved this discussion over to the lounge?
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#8 ·
Sam Robinson said:I couldn't agree more. It is fundamentally bizarre to force anyone into some "socially acceptable" mold of masculinity or femininity. Yet, most ridiculously, this happens every single day all over the country—and frankly, even right here on this forum. We're dealing with a massive, systemic taboo. Maybe I should have moved this discussion over to the lounge?

But yeah, it is happening. Though, to be fair, there are plenty of people out there who are slowly starting to push back against those forced labels.

It's Sunday afternoon, and man, people are already jumping into the conversation.
Eric Taylor4 Eric Taylor4 Newcomer
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#9 ·
It’s an undeniable truth that we live in an era that effectively "raises" our children, teenagers, and even adults for us. It isn’t necessarily about emotional development; rather, it’s about conditioning specific behaviors, thought patterns, and a rigid definition of what counts as "correct" or "acceptable" conduct.
In my view, parents play a massive role here, alongside the broader culture, and—crucially—the individual themselves. Of course, it’s impossible to prove whose influence carries the most weight since it varies so much from person to person, but I believe self-awareness is key. There are surprisingly few people who dare to be different while remaining genuinely happy and comfortable in their own skin. It’s incredibly difficult to resist the judgment of society, and parents are a major factor in that pressure. However, if someone is given the right compass early on—clearer guidelines on how to navigate life and act with integrity—they can eventually learn to find their own way.
Why has it come to this? I think there are several driving forces at play: a general decline in critical thinking, the fact that it’s much easier to manipulate the masses in the future, the sheer superficiality of the modern age, and the reality of busy parents with misplaced priorities. I’m sure there’s a whole laundry list of other reasons that aren't coming to mind right now...
placidharbor8 placidharbor8 Member
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#10 ·
Nowadays, modern society basically tries to dictate exactly how a man should act and what his "ideal" version looks like, while simultaneously pushing a very specific template for what an ideal woman should be. But honestly, the reality is nothing like those stereotypes, because trying to generalize people like that just ends up being toxic for everyone involved.

At the end of the day, we’re emotional creatures through and through, and when we try to run away from our feelings, it really messes with both our mental health and our physical bodies. Scientists have actually proven that when we bottle up intense emotions, our brains release certain chemicals that create this kind of internal chaos—it’s almost like we’re poisoning ourselves from the inside out.

We’re constantly being told to chase that "alpha" lifestyle—to be dominant, to be the absolute best, and to reach the top, even if it means stepping on others or causing someone else to suffer. It’s been pushed as the ultimate life goal, where success is defined by being at the peak with everyone else beneath you. To me, that feels like a sickness that only breeds division and resentment within our communities.

I personally feel like most people don't actually want to behave the way they do in certain social situations; deep down, I think most of us value much more honest, genuine qualities in one another. So, what stops us? It's usually that paralyzing fear of being judged by society for not following the "rules," or the fear of losing friends or partners. It’s hard to realize that the other person is likely feeling the exact same pressure and doesn't want to play along with these forced social scripts either. It feels like we’ve all collectively become a bit cold toward one another—and I’m certainly not excluding myself from that, as I’ve become incredibly aware of both the individual and collective struggle we're facing.

All this stuff about having a "perfect" physique, the whole "no pain, no gain" mentality, the obsession with reaching the summit, and making goal-oriented focus a total lifestyle... it all just pushes people to shut themselves off and distance themselves from others. They convince themselves they’re these untouchable alphas who don't need anyone. I’ve noticed that it often takes people getting to their mid-30s or 40s before they finally realize that true success is actually about fulfilling your own real potential—developing skills that you are genuinely passionate about, rather than what the world expects of you. It’s about emotional intelligence, finding a deep connection with the people around you, and moving past those superficial opinions from the media, social networks, or chasing Facebook likes.
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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joined Jan 2018
#11 ·
Sam Robinson said:"We associate sexual contest with masculinity..." The Mask You Live In - documentary movie

"Awaken masculine," be an "alpha," act "cool," "real men don't cry," or "emotions are for weaklings"—these toxic, destructive clichés tear down boys, young men, and men alike. They strip away any chance at genuine, cooperative community. Yet, even on a forum like this, we still act shocked. We wonder why divorce rates are skyrocketing, why infidelity is so rampant, why there’s such profound emotional unavailability, or why we see so much violence and sexual assault... etc... ?

The Mask You Live In:
does a pretty solid job of documenting this exact issue, and I'd really like to open up a discussion about it with all of you. So, to my fellow members: what are your thoughts on this forced emotional inhibition? And what do you make of how men try to "compensate" for everything that is deemed "socially unacceptable" or "unutterable" through sex, alcohol, drugs, and other addictions? Is that truly the "only" path left for young men when they are crushed under this societal mandate? 🍿

Total garbage of a documentary that just goes on and on condemning masculinity in every single form. Honestly, my only takeaway is that it was probably funded by feminist groups trying their hardest to drive the final nail into the coffin of everything that makes us men. They throw out these extreme, baseless claims without any scientific backing, suggesting that being masculine is somehow "bad" and should be avoided when raising boys... It's honestly unwatchable!
I am so incredibly done with this kind of propaganda—done with feminism being pushed at the expense of men, done with forced feminization, done with pushing homosexuality, and done with stripping away men's rights and everything else that defines who we are. This documentary is nothing more than brainwashing.
Today, women are taught to be strong, self-aware, ambitious, dominant, and assertive... meanwhile, men are having the last bits of identity stripped away—the very things that give them a sense of purpose and belonging. It's disgusting to watch, truly disgusting...
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#12 ·
placidharbor8 said:Nowadays, modern society basically tries to dictate exactly how a man should act and what his "ideal" version looks like, while simultaneously pushing a very specific template for what an ideal woman should be. But honestly, the reality is nothing like those stereotypes, because trying to generalize people like that just ends up being toxic for everyone involved.

At the end of the day, we’re emotional creatures through and through, and when we try to run away from our feelings, it really messes with both our mental health and our physical bodies. Scientists have actually proven that when we bottle up intense emotions, our brains release certain chemicals that create this kind of internal chaos—it’s almost like we’re poisoning ourselves from the inside out.

We’re constantly being told to chase that "alpha" lifestyle—to be dominant, to be the absolute best, and to reach the top, even if it means stepping on others or causing someone else to suffer. It’s been pushed as the ultimate life goal, where success is defined by being at the peak with everyone else beneath you. To me, that feels like a sickness that only breeds division and resentment within our communities.

I personally feel like most people don't actually want to behave the way they do in certain social situations; deep down, I think most of us value much more honest, genuine qualities in one another. So, what stops us? It's usually that paralyzing fear of being judged by society for not following the "rules," or the fear of losing friends or partners. It’s hard to realize that the other person is likely feeling the exact same pressure and doesn't want to play along with these forced social scripts either. It feels like we’ve all collectively become a bit cold toward one another—and I’m certainly not excluding myself from that, as I’ve become incredibly aware of both the individual and collective struggle we're facing.

All this stuff about having a "perfect" physique, the whole "no pain, no gain" mentality, the obsession with reaching the summit, and making goal-oriented focus a total lifestyle... it all just pushes people to shut themselves off and distance themselves from others. They convince themselves they’re these untouchable alphas who don't need anyone. I’ve noticed that it often takes people getting to their mid-30s or 40s before they finally realize that true success is actually about fulfilling your own real potential—developing skills that you are genuinely passionate about, rather than what the world expects of you. It’s about emotional intelligence, finding a deep connection with the people around you, and moving past those superficial opinions from the media, social networks, or chasing Facebook likes.

Look, we're part of a bigger machine here, and unfortunately, the way our economy works today is basically set up so that only a tiny handful can win at everyone else's expense. That's just the reality we're living in. It’s the driving force behind why so many young women are pushed to grind through college just so they can land those high-paying executive roles tomorrow—roles that, let's face it, usually end up going to men about 60% of the time anyway.
Masculinity and femininity define us, and even if gender roles didn't exist, biological patterns that shaped our species would still make men, well, men. What really bugs me, though, is this current trend where masculinity is being stripped away in every possible way, and power is being shifted from men to women across the board. The tragedy is that we haven't even come up with a new blueprint for men to follow; instead, we're seeing this push toward feminized masculinity and other lifestyles being treated as the new "in" thing.
Then you've got this massive clash between the old school and the new generations because of all these social shifts, and the modern man is basically losing his footing. Like, what you do with your family or whether you want to wear a skirt—that's your business, totally private. But in the workplace? People expect teamwork, expertise, skill, education, and results... if you don't bring that to the table, you're basically invisible.
Jesse Mendoza4 Jesse Mendoza4 Member
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#13 ·
Sam Robinson said:"We associate sexual contest with masculinity..." The Mask You Live In - documentary movie

"Awaken masculine," be an "alpha," act "cool," "real men don't cry," or "emotions are for weaklings"—these toxic, destructive clichés tear down boys, young men, and men alike. They strip away any chance at genuine, cooperative community. Yet, even on a forum like this, we still act shocked. We wonder why divorce rates are skyrocketing, why infidelity is so rampant, why there’s such profound emotional unavailability, or why we see so much violence and sexual assault... etc... ?

The Mask You Live In:
does a pretty solid job of documenting this exact issue, and I'd really like to open up a discussion about it with all of you. So, to my fellow members: what are your thoughts on this forced emotional inhibition? And what do you make of how men try to "compensate" for everything that is deemed "socially unacceptable" or "unutterable" through sex, alcohol, drugs, and other addictions? Is that truly the "only" path left for young men when they are crushed under this societal mandate? 🍿

I haven't had a chance to watch The Mask You Live In - documentary movie yet, but if I'm following correctly, it's pretty wild to suggest that being emotionally shut down or violent stems directly from that "be a man" upbringing.

People who are violent are sick and need professional help; usually, you can trace those issues back to childhood abuse, neglect, or just general bad parenting, rather than some specific gendered rule.

To me, being a man is about strength, taking responsibility, and being a fair player—having true character. Honestly, I think those are qualities anyone should strive for, regardless of gender.

Phrases like "stop crying" or "don't be a baby" are usually aimed at toddlers throwing tantrums in the middle of Target or crying over a scraped knee. I really don't see how that connects to destroying social cohesion once they grow up.
placidharbor8 placidharbor8 Member
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#14 ·
Donna White50 said:Look, we're part of a bigger machine here, and unfortunately, the way our economy works today is basically set up so that only a tiny handful can win at everyone else's expense. That's just the reality we're living in. It’s the driving force behind why so many young women are pushed to grind through college just so they can land those high-paying executive roles tomorrow—roles that, let's face it, usually end up going to men about 60% of the time anyway.
Masculinity and femininity define us, and even if gender roles didn't exist, biological patterns that shaped our species would still make men, well, men. What really bugs me, though, is this current trend where masculinity is being stripped away in every possible way, and power is being shifted from men to women across the board. The tragedy is that we haven't even come up with a new blueprint for men to follow; instead, we're seeing this push toward feminized masculinity and other lifestyles being treated as the new "in" thing.
Then you've got this massive clash between the old school and the new generations because of all these social shifts, and the modern man is basically losing his footing. Like, what you do with your family or whether you want to wear a skirt—that's your business, totally private. But in the workplace? People expect teamwork, expertise, skill, education, and results... if you don't bring that to the table, you're basically invisible.

But then again, it really all boils down to how you personally define success. Is it money, power, building a family, having a healthy relationship with your community, or something else entirely? If you view the whole world through the lens of dollars and cents and economic standing, then success for you might actually require someone else's downfall.

That trend of suppressing masculinity you mentioned? You see it everywhere in celebrity lifestyles, but if you take a second to look around your actual neighborhood, you'll realize those people are actually in the minority. The big issue is that people soak up everything they see on TV and the internet as if it's happening to everyone, like it's the universal standard for daily life. Most of what's flashed on those screens actually only applies to a tiny fraction—a very small percentage—of the population.

If you're observant and you actually pay attention to what's going on around you, I think your behavior should reflect that reality. No man chooses to lean into feminization unless he thinks it's going to bring him some sort of benefit within that perceived "majority" he thinks represents society. To me, it just looks like an obsession with trying to "fit in" with modernity and becoming overly dependent on what other people think. But hey, that's just my two cents.
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#15 ·
A real (honestly, let's face it) wake-up call for the times we're heading into...
At least for those who actually want to live a life they're actually responsible for...

Long live the unmasked primal side!
Sam Robinson Sam Robinson MemberOP
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joined Apr 2013
#16 ·
Jesse Mendoza4 said:I haven't had a chance to watch The Mask You Live In - documentary movie yet, but if I'm following correctly, it's pretty wild to suggest that being emotionally shut down or violent stems directly from that "be a man" upbringing.

People who are violent are sick and need professional help; usually, you can trace those issues back to childhood abuse, neglect, or just general bad parenting, rather than some specific gendered rule.

To me, being a man is about strength, taking responsibility, and being a fair player—having true character. Honestly, I think those are qualities anyone should strive for, regardless of gender.

Phrases like "stop crying" or "don't be a baby" are usually aimed at toddlers throwing tantrums in the middle of Target or crying over a scraped knee. I really don't see how that connects to destroying social cohesion once they grow up.

I’m mostly on your side here. Especially regarding the point that traits like strength, responsibility, fairness, and integrity should be valued in both men and women. But my take on what the film is actually aiming at is this: we can't live in that narrow definition 24/7. When there's zero understanding for the full spectrum of emotions and behaviors inherent to boys and men, the whole system starts to fracture. Let's be real; saying "be a man" is just as empty as saying "be a lady"—not that anyone actually uses that one anymore. It's just a collection of toxic labels used for manipulation, much like "don't overreact," "don't be confrontational," "stop whining," "don't cry," or "don't act like a girl." The earlier kids are hit with these labels, the more emotionally stunted they become later in life. They internalize the idea that showing emotion is somehow unmanly or inappropriate, which is exactly why we see such a spike in problematic behavior and an inability to manage anger and frustration when their needs aren't met.
Jason Taylor Jason Taylor Newcomer
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#17 ·
Let’s be real—emotionally stunted men are a massive, ongoing issue.
When a three-year-old boy is allowed to cry, it isn't some kind of "feminizing" process—it's just meeting the basic needs of a kid who wants to feel loved, understood, and seen. Period.

Look, there’s a time and place for introducing social norms, sure, but early childhood definitely isn't that time. At that age, a boy doesn't even perceive himself as a man yet; he’s just learning that he shouldn't show any feelings and that he has to act "tough," even though he hasn't the slightest clue what that actually means.
Like someone else mentioned above, those labels people throw around are just incredibly toxic.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#18 ·
I’d say women who end up with men raised with that "masculine" focus tend to hit their goals more easily—mostly because those guys aren't as distracted by chasing women. It’s basically a trade-off; women settle for that dynamic to get the sense of protection and security those men provide. Plus, at the end of the day, women are the ones raising sons. (Which, if you think about it, is pretty much the core of psychoanalysis.)
Maybe that whole model has been flawed all this time—at least in how we romanticize it—especially now that everyone’s trying to push this idea of the "modern man." Though, let's be real, people aren't exactly being honest about this stuff, even here.
Jason Taylor Jason Taylor Newcomer
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#19 ·
My dad is actually super sensitive, gentle, and caring—but honestly, he never lost an ounce of that strength needed to protect me or just be there when things got real.
But apparently, those exact traits—being sensitive and tender—are strictly off-limits for men, right?
I’ll never forget when our dog passed away; my dad was crying his eyes out like a heartbroken kid, and my mom just started tearing into him, saying it was embarrassing for a grown man to cry like some total softie. It seriously pissed me off because, I mean, I knew deep down that my dad had every right to cry if he was hurting, regardless of how old he was or the fact that he's a guy.

That kind of rigid, stifling upbringing doesn't do anyone any favors—it basically just grooms men for violence that someone else is going to profit from later on.
placidharbor8 placidharbor8 Member
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#20 ·
Jason Taylor said:My dad is actually super sensitive, gentle, and caring—but honestly, he never lost an ounce of that strength needed to protect me or just be there when things got real.
But apparently, those exact traits—being sensitive and tender—are strictly off-limits for men, right?
I’ll never forget when our dog passed away; my dad was crying his eyes out like a heartbroken kid, and my mom just started tearing into him, saying it was embarrassing for a grown man to cry like some total softie. It seriously pissed me off because, I mean, I knew deep down that my dad had every right to cry if he was hurting, regardless of how old he was or the fact that he's a guy.

That kind of rigid, stifling upbringing doesn't do anyone any favors—it basically just grooms men for violence that someone else is going to profit from later on.

I think of crying as a simple emotional release valve. You have to let that sadness out, otherwise you're just bottling it all up inside.

Crying isn't a sign of weakness at all... I mean, nobody is invincible, and no one is immune to tragedy or those heavy, dark moments in life. No one is so strong that they never feel the urge to weep.

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