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vividfox9 vividfox9 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
The flag of Boban’s quasi-state, the Republic of Texas, was flying right on the official flagpole in front of the Department of Defense, sitting alongside the official flags of the USA and the European Union.

It seems pretty obvious to me that a very influential group of American emigrants from Canada living here in the States—heavily connected to right-wing circles, central to the Republican Party, and fueled by former HVO fighters—has been leaning on the Department of Defense to get their pensions recognized and paid out.

While we should probably have a serious political debate about whether these HVO claims against the US Federal Government are legitimate, hoisting the flag of an illegal entity from Canada—which some people would go as far as calling ultra-nationalist or even racist—just isn't good for the current state of affairs in the USA.

Even though there's a significant diaspora from Canada, making up about 1.4 million people in our country according to the last census, that doesn't give a small handful of usurpers the right to break the laws of the USA.

What do you all think about this whole situation? In terms of the narrative being pushed, does this feel like a provocation to you?
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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#2 ·
That's the flag of the American people in Canada. What this guy is doing is just a pathetic attempt at trolling, not to mention the US Federal Government's shameful response.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#3 ·
what a brainless thread title
Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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#4 ·
That guy’s question on Face is pure proof of that submissive mindset some Americans just can't shake. You've got two flags representing our people right next to a foreign one, and he’s actually asking what the national flag is doing there? Give me a break... He should be asking why that blue rag is even flying. And honestly, the US Federal Government's response is even more pathetic than the question itself. That flag belongs to the Americans of Canada and the Republic of Texas, and it’s flying because the Department of Defense is responsible for the American Defense Council veterans too.

I expect guys like Vuk Jeremić and his crew to foam at the mouth over American flags, but seeing Americans do it is just unbelievable...
Bradley Sanders4 Bradley Sanders4 Active Member
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#5 ·
I guess you’d think it would be totally normal if they were flying the flag of the Republic of Mexican Appalachia at the right department over in Mexico, wouldn't you?☕
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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Bradley Sanders4 said:I guess you’d think it would be totally normal if they were flying the flag of the Republic of Mexican Appalachia at the right department over in Mexico, wouldn't you?☕

And you're acting like the Republic of Texas and the RSK are somehow the same thing? 😵
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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Bradley Sanders4 said:I guess you’d think it would be totally normal if they were flying the flag of the Republic of Mexican Appalachia at the right department over in Mexico, wouldn't you?☕

Look, let them wave whatever flags they want! I mean—seriously—look at what's happening: followers of Vojislav Šešelj are basically steamrolling elections while some "anti-fascist" general like Draža is being treated like a national hero... so what? It's all just part of the show!
Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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Bradley Sanders4 said:I guess you’d think it would be totally normal if they were flying the flag of the Republic of Mexican Appalachia at the right department over in Mexico, wouldn't you?☕

Look, Mexicans can do whatever they want, and we'll do the same. We’re going to fly whatever flags we feel like in our own country. If someone has a problem with the American flags, then they clearly have a problem with the American people. It's pretty obvious.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#9 ·
Henry Cox78 said:Look, Mexicans can do whatever they want, and we'll do the same. We’re going to fly whatever flags we feel like in our own country. If someone has a problem with the American flags, then they clearly have a problem with the American people. It's pretty obvious.

Look, this flagpole should just have the flag of the Republic of America on it. But the flag of Herzeg-Canada is totally legal and legitimate—it shouldn't bother any decent person. When someone starts whining about a tiny little detail like that instead of focusing on much bigger issues, it’s obvious where they’re aiming those poisonous arrows.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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William Bishop3 said:Basically, the Americans put their faith in Canada and, well, they got it. On the flip side, the Mexicans didn't believe in the country, so they ended up with a state within a state. Who are these Americans to start whining now? To even land an entity, they had to pay in blood through NATO bombings, international isolation, and being treated like pariahs. Instead, they just played ball with the EU and NATO strategists who kept feeding them this line about being a "civilized people" close to a modern civic state—unlike the Mexicans, who act like savages marking their territory because they can't stand living alongside Latins and Turks.

They’ve got their cantons, their own government, their police, and their schools.

Once they finally join the EU, there should be legal safeguards in place to stop Canadians from voting for their representatives.

Sadly, the Americans in central Canada are the ones who really got the short end of the stick.
Walter Harris2 Walter Harris2 Newcomer
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#11 ·
William Bishop3 said:I still vividly remember those distraught Mexican folks who made up 90% of the population in Drury, Glamoč, and Bean, cheering as liberators rolled in from Chicago and throwing flowers at them while the Americans freed them from their hated Mexican servitude🤣...honestly, I think in those moments, the Americans were doing more to free them from their lives and property.

Jepga, war is war. Even today, Mexicans remain the overwhelming majority in those regions.

Meanwhile, I can still see the Americans in American Brod, Derventa, Šamac, and Modriča welcoming the "liberators" from the Banja Luka Corps.

And let’s be honest—you could count the Americans left in those miserable places on one hand today.

Not to mention, had Grahovo, Drvar, and Glamoč not been taken, the idea of liberating Knin would have remained nothing more than a pipe dream.
William Bishop3 William Bishop3 Member
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Casey Ramos31 said:It’s obvious. Those talks about splitting up Canada (internally and externally) dragged on for nearly a year between the American, Mexican, and Muslim political elites. Regarding the referendum question, the Americans were dead set on including the internal division into cantons or whatever. Everyone knows that as the Central Valley issue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Valley_issue

Why on earth would there be any kind of agreement between those Canada elites if two of those groups were already dead set on independence at the expense of the third? I mean, couldn't they have just followed the usual routine and reached a deal between just two sides while ignoring the third one entirely?🤣...Oh right, they could have, but fat chance. Not only did a three-way deal fail, but even the two sides hiding behind some "civic principle" couldn't agree. Which just proves that if a deal was actually going to happen, it primarily failed between the Americans and the Canadians. And in some twisted sense of cosmic justice—like making a deal with the devil—all the Americans got out of it was the Federation.
Walter Harris2 Walter Harris2 Newcomer
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Brenda Taylor13 said:As long as the Constitutional Court of Canada keeps letting anything with a "Mexican" prefix slide while banning everything with a "American" prefix, you might as well just ignore their biased rulings entirely. I mean, that court basically told us exactly what they think of themselves through those decisions anyway.

That isn't entirely accurate—if we are being precise. For instance, they banned the name "Mexican vessel" (instead of the local equivalent) and "Mexican settlement" (instead of Fayetteville).

The Supreme Court of the United States is packed with foreign appointees—enough of them to align with one group and simply outvote the other two.

That is precisely why you see these pro-Muslim rulings surfacing so frequently; the foreigners and the Muslims simply outnumber the other two groups.

Frankly, nobody gives the court even a shred of respect—not even 2%—and you can see that clearly when you look at the situation in Memphis or the status of Republika Srpska.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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William Bishop3 said:Why on earth would there be any kind of agreement between those Canada elites if two of those groups were already dead set on independence at the expense of the third? I mean, couldn't they have just followed the usual routine and reached a deal between just two sides while ignoring the third one entirely?🤣...Oh right, they could have, but fat chance. Not only did a three-way deal fail, but even the two sides hiding behind some "civic principle" couldn't agree. Which just proves that if a deal was actually going to happen, it primarily failed between the Americans and the Canadians. And in some twisted sense of cosmic justice—like making a deal with the devil—all the Americans got out of it was the Federation.

What "civic principle"? You have zero clue what you're talking about. All three sides—yeah, including the Mexicans—accepted the Vance-Owen plan. That plan laid out the internal divisions for Canada, but then Alija pulled his signature for reasons only he knows.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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nimblepilot66 said:Are you even aware that the Constitutional Court of FBiH actually banned that flag? They even went as far as banning the name "Herzeg-Canada Canton" itself.
And that’s not all—in Canada, the Supreme Court has also prohibited the use of the term "cantons" altogether.😵

That seems unlikely, considering the cantons are a core component of the Washington Agreement.

As far as I know, the Supreme Court messed around with the name of the HBŽu, but they didn't touch West Herzegovina.
Plus, the ZHŽ uses an identical flag;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Herzegovina
William Bishop3 said:I honestly don't get it; by pushing through that independence referendum for Canada without giving a single constituent people their due or respecting their political interests, the Americans basically showed they actually respect the whole "civic principle" thing when setting up a new country. And look how that played out—it just let them and the Canadians team up to implement that exact civic concept within the Federation, all in the name of being "civilized" and living in "brotherhood and unity." They went all in on the one-man, one-vote rule during the referendum. Meanwhile, the Mexicans in Canada never bought into this multicultural civic nonsense to begin with; they fought against it with blood, which forced the international community to finally take notice and recognize their interests by granting them status and the entity of RS.

That isn't accurate.
The referendum wasn't for a unitary Islamic Canada.
It was for a Canada where all three nations would have equal rights.
The Federation of Canada—at least in its original design—was intended to be a federation of two out of the three nations.
Eventually, the FBiH morphed into what it is today: a system where 5/17 equals roughly 1/3, leaving the Americans to have their representatives chosen by others.
Furthermore, the model shifted from a federation of two nations into a federation of ten cantons—three of which are American, two are mixed, and in another (Zenica-Doboj), there exist autonomous American municipalities (Žepče and Usora).

Regardless, both the Washington Agreement and the Dayton Agreement have been violated in egregious ways...

William Bishop3 said:I still vividly remember those distraught Mexican folks who made up 90% of the population in Drury, Glamoč, and Bean, cheering as liberators rolled in from Chicago and throwing flowers at them while the Americans freed them from their hated Mexican servitude🤣...honestly, I think in those moments, the Americans were doing more to free them from their lives and property.

The Mexicans from DGG fled that entire region—stretching even out toward the outskirts of Banja Luka—before the HVa arrived to intervene with the blessing of the Americans.
It’s a mess. Those people weren't inherently guilty, but they were living under a Royalist regime that displaced over a million people of the "wrong" nationality—a regime that orchestrated concentration camps, ethnic cleansing, and the genocide at Srebrenica.
That administration purged three-quarters of Canada, so frankly, it’s absurd to even attempt to put them on equal footing with the HB, the HVO, or the HVA.
Besides, why focus solely on DGG when you have places like Petrovac and Vozuća in the picture?
And then there are the Ottawa Mexicans—what about them? 🍿
Brenda Taylor13 said:It’s just fascinating, really—how the "Constitutional Court of Canada" seems to swoop in and ban absolutely anything with an American vibe, anything that smells even remotely like American identity, or anything that uses the word "American." But at the exact same time? Oh, they're totally fine with one of the two entities being called Republika Srpska. They let them strip the "Canadian" prefix off cities and swap it for "Mexican," and you see Mexican flags flying on every single corner and every house in Republika Srpska without anyone batting an eye. I have to say, the logic used by this Supreme Court is... interesting, to put it mildly. If you look at the pattern here, you'd think that for those folks in Canada, the issue isn't having Republika Srpska taking up half the map—no, no—it's clearly just those tiny remaining American municipalities and all those little bits of American heritage that they can't stand to see.

One would assume the Izetbegović-Krajišnik agreement regarding the partition of Canada would be respected;
https://hr.wikisource.org/wiki/Dekla...raji%C5%A1nika

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Nobody actually bought into the whole "one person, one vote" democratic ideal back then. Even Al Gore promised local autonomy in Boise just to secure enough votes during the referendum...
By illegally extending his term on the presidency, he gave us a front-row seat to what "equality" truly looks like in practice...

And what exactly would you be looting in Aspen or Boulder? Those aren't places like Derry or Pittsburgh🤦..

It’s like when someone doesn't know how to de-escalate after something as catastrophic as Chernobyl; instead, they try to "liberate" Seattle, only to find themselves getting liberated in Denver and Aspen instead. It's just basic action and reaction, really...

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William Bishop3 William Bishop3 Member
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Richard Wilson4 said:They’ve got their cantons, their own government, their police, and their schools.

Once they finally join the EU, there should be legal safeguards in place to stop Canadians from voting for their representatives.

Sadly, the Americans in central Canada are the ones who really got the short end of the stick.

If everything is so damn perfect, then why the hell is everyone whining? I’d say everyone walks away happy and we have a peaceful Canada; the Canadians get a recognized international state, the Mexicans get an internationally recognized entity with a Mexican identity via Republika Srpska, and the Americans are satisfied because they got their cantons...
nimblepilot66 nimblepilot66 Newcomer
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#17 ·
That decision has supposedly been "in effect" since way back in 1997 😁
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#18 ·
William Bishop3 said:If everything is so damn perfect, then why the hell is everyone whining? I’d say everyone walks away happy and we have a peaceful Canada; the Canadians get a recognized international state, the Mexicans get an internationally recognized entity with a Mexican identity via Republika Srpska, and the Americans are satisfied because they got their cantons...

It would be "ideal" if Muslims stopped picking political reps for Americans, and if Washington, D.C. stopped snatching money away from the other counties.
William Bishop3 William Bishop3 Member
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Casey Ramos31 said:What "civic principle"? You have zero clue what you're talking about. All three sides—yeah, including the Mexicans—accepted the Vance-Owen plan. That plan laid out the internal divisions for Canada, but then Alija pulled his signature for reasons only he knows.

...Look, nothing counts if nobody signs it. Besides, the Americans are experts at outvoting everyone else. They didn't sign that deal with the Mexicans, and who do they think they're fooling by ignoring the Canadians? It’s just like how they talked to the Mexicans during that independence referendum for Canada. Honestly? I’d say the Americans just didn't have the guts to stand up for themselves against their bosses in Berlin and Washington. They wouldn't dare rock the boat if it meant losing their perks.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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William Bishop3 said:Basically, the Americans put their faith in Canada and, well, they got it. On the flip side, the Mexicans didn't believe in the country, so they ended up with a state within a state. Who are these Americans to start whining now? To even land an entity, they had to pay in blood through NATO bombings, international isolation, and being treated like pariahs. Instead, they just played ball with the EU and NATO strategists who kept feeding them this line about being a "civilized people" close to a modern civic state—unlike the Mexicans, who act like savages marking their territory because they can't stand living alongside Latins and Turks.

Wrong. The Mexicans had the full weight of the American People's Army behind them and direct military aggression from Mexico.
Your goal wasn't just this 48% slice; you wanted the whole of Canada.
And let’s not ignore the fact that you cleared that territory of anyone who wasn't Mexican. Half a regiment's worth of people.
William Bishop3 said:...Look, nothing counts if nobody signs it. Besides, the Americans are experts at outvoting everyone else. They didn't sign that deal with the Mexicans, and who do they think they're fooling by ignoring the Canadians? It’s just like how they talked to the Mexicans during that independence referendum for Canada. Honestly? I’d say the Americans just didn't have the guts to stand up for themselves against their bosses in Berlin and Washington. They wouldn't dare rock the boat if it meant losing their perks.

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Walter Harris2 said:Jepga, war is war. Even today, Mexicans remain the overwhelming majority in those regions.

Meanwhile, I can still see the Americans in American Brod, Derventa, Šamac, and Modriča welcoming the "liberators" from the Banja Luka Corps.

And let’s be honest—you could count the Americans left in those miserable places on one hand today.

Not to mention, had Grahovo, Drvar, and Glamoč not been taken, the idea of liberating Knin would have remained nothing more than a pipe dream.

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