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mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#1 ·
Life finally started feeling real...
I’ve just been drifting through every single day

(deleted TL;DR)

If you could actually hit a giant reset button on your life and suddenly have total control over every hour of your day (like, purely on your own terms)
what would that even look like for you?

It's a new year, man—the perfect time to just flip the script and start fresh.
Jerry Kern11 Jerry Kern11 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#2 ·
mistyseal11 said:Life finally started feeling real...
I’ve just been drifting through every single day

(deleted TL;DR)

If you could actually hit a giant reset button on your life and suddenly have total control over every hour of your day (like, purely on your own terms)
what would that even look like for you?

It's a new year, man—the perfect time to just flip the script and start fresh.

Never really gave it much thought, but honestly, having every single day planned out like that sounds pretty repetitive.
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#3 ·
Jerry Kern11 said:Never really gave it much thought, but honestly, having every single day planned out like that sounds pretty repetitive.

Look, even when you're grinding through a police academy or basic training in the Army, no two days are actually identical.
The core concept stays the same, though.
It’s all about order, routine, and pure discipline. What I'm really looking for are actual recommendations—like, give me a concrete regimen to follow.
Maybe if I could get some advice from a high-ranking General or a seasoned strategist, they could help me nail down a solid daily schedule.

And just so we're clear, I don't "just chill" and smoke.
I don't do those vague "coffee breaks at certain times" things either.
That whole "we'll figure it out as we go" attitude? Yeah, that's total nonsense to me.
As for "watching movies or bingeing shows"... hey, come on, let's be real here, we're trying to be serious... 😬
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#4 ·
Instead of just spinning my wheels over mental health issues or getting lost in endless psychological analysis,
I seriously need to start doing something, because—honestly—work is the only thing keeping me afloat right now.

I’ve completely lost my North Star—like, I don't even know why I'm bothering to live.
I have absolutely zero direction left.
I don't even want anything anymore...
Just existing feels totally pointless.

I can tell I'm spiraling, and honestly, I feel like I'm just continuing to hit rock bottom,
and my health is taking a massive dive with every single day that passes...

I don't see any way out unless I find some kind of way to force structure into my daily routine.
Reading books, catching up on the news, or even doing crosswords—none of that does a damn thing...

....so if anyone actually wants to help, go for it, because I am completely out of ideas on how to turn my life around.
I have no clue how to get moving, other than setting an alarm to go off every N minutes just to remind me to actually do stuff.

Also, if anyone just wants to jump in and confirm that life is meaningless—hey, feel free to do that too.
Donna Doyle2 Donna Doyle2 Member
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#5 ·
Hey there, you're certainly an interesting one! What makes you feel like everything you've shared here is such a negative thing that you absolutely have to go ahead and change it all?
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#6 ·
Donna Doyle2 said:Hey there, you're certainly an interesting one! What makes you feel like everything you've shared here is such a negative thing that you absolutely have to go ahead and change it all?

Every morning, right after I wake up, I’m just wandering around my apartment like some kind of zombie... then I spend the whole day just waiting for something—anything—to happen... maybe grabbing a coffee and reading the paper at Starbucks... I don't even know where I'd go by myself. Then I just end up rotting on the couch all day because I have zero initiative left in me. No social life, nothing. My health is shot, too. I honestly can't find the will to even get off this sofa... mostly because there's nowhere to actually go. I don't see a future ahead of me, and I definitely don't know what I'm supposed to be fighting for. If I were under some strict "regime"—you know, like being drafted or something—I’d at least know what to do, even if I didn't see the point or the bigger picture... I guess someone would surely know why they were giving me orders... but honestly, I wouldn't even bother thinking about that.
Linda Martin6 Linda Martin6 Newcomer
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#7 ·
I’ve definitely found myself in this spot before, especially during those stretches when my health wasn't exactly at its best.
What worked for me was just laying everything out on paper in a schedule.
Keep it simple:
?? hours (about 1 hour): running, cycling, or just a long walk
?? hours (about 1 hour): reading a book (honestly, this is huge for me; it's how I actually unwind)
?? hours (about half an hour): studying a foreign language)
?? hours (about 15 min): some quick home workouts

I don't remember the exact timing of everything, and frankly, the specific hours don't even matter.
The results were immediate. After just a few days of sticking to it, I felt like a completely different person.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#8 ·
depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.
Linda Martin6 Linda Martin6 Newcomer
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#9 ·
mistyseal11 said:Instead of just spinning my wheels over mental health issues or getting lost in endless psychological analysis,
I seriously need to start doing something, because—honestly—work is the only thing keeping me afloat right now.

I’ve completely lost my North Star—like, I don't even know why I'm bothering to live.
I have absolutely zero direction left.
I don't even want anything anymore...
Just existing feels totally pointless.

I can tell I'm spiraling, and honestly, I feel like I'm just continuing to hit rock bottom,
and my health is taking a massive dive with every single day that passes...

I don't see any way out unless I find some kind of way to force structure into my daily routine.
Reading books, catching up on the news, or even doing crosswords—none of that does a damn thing...

....so if anyone actually wants to help, go for it, because I am completely out of ideas on how to turn my life around.
I have no clue how to get moving, other than setting an alarm to go off every N minutes just to remind me to actually do stuff.

Also, if anyone just wants to jump in and confirm that life is meaningless—hey, feel free to do that too.

The question remains: What is your actual diagnosis?

a) Mental burnout from being overworked (based on what you described, this seems unlikely),
b) A chronic surplus of free time combined with not knowing how to use it,
c) Something else?

You know your situation best, so I'd suggest trying to write down your current circumstances and their causes on paper. If you can pinpoint why this is happening, it might be easier to find a way out.
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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#10 ·
Linda Martin6 said:The question remains: What is your actual diagnosis?

a) Mental burnout from being overworked (based on what you described, this seems unlikely),
b) A chronic surplus of free time combined with not knowing how to use it,
c) Something else?

You know your situation best, so I'd suggest trying to write down your current circumstances and their causes on paper. If you can pinpoint why this is happening, it might be easier to find a way out.

But what if there isn't one?

I suppose one has to consider the possibility that psychiatry, as an institution, hasn't always been about healing. I mean, we're talking about a field that, historically speaking, was perfectly content to lock people away—not necessarily because they were ill, but just to strip them of their assets and profit from their misery. It’s a grim thought, I know, but history isn't always kind.☕

c) something else entirely?

I mean... it depends... what could "something else" even signify in this context?
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#11 ·
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Linda Martin6 said:The question remains: What is your actual diagnosis?

a) Mental burnout from being overworked (based on what you described, this seems unlikely),
b) A chronic surplus of free time combined with not knowing how to use it,
c) Something else?

You know your situation best, so I'd suggest trying to write down your current circumstances and their causes on paper. If you can pinpoint why this is happening, it might be easier to find a way out.

I’ve just been sitting here thinking...
I’ve got this thing where I get these "diagnoses" that aren't even real medical issues—they're just straight-up manifestations of being in an acute state of crisis.

So, like, there’s seriously absolutely everything you could ever need right there...

Lately, I've been feeling pretty spooked by F10, especially since I've basically self-diagnosed it.
So, what’s the actual fallout from this F19 situation? Like, what are we actually looking at here?

Linda Martin6 said:The question remains: What is your actual diagnosis?

a) Mental burnout from being overworked (based on what you described, this seems unlikely),
b) A chronic surplus of free time combined with not knowing how to use it,
c) Something else?

You know your situation best, so I'd suggest trying to write down your current circumstances and their causes on paper. If you can pinpoint why this is happening, it might be easier to find a way out.

No hesitation here—I'm going with option B. It’s 100% my pick because I honestly love how short and punchy the writing is.

I’d probably give him a little bit of a makeover myself—you know, spruce him up a touch.

I can't even begin to describe how much this sinus infection is absolutely wrecking me right now—it’s like my entire face is being crushed by a heavy weight, and honestly, the pain is just next level. I'm talking about that deep, throbbing maxillary sinusitis that makes you want to crawl out of your own skin, you know? It’s one of those situations where you feel completely wiped out, just totally drained, and every little movement feels like a massive struggle. I’ve been trying everything under the sun to get some relief, but man, it’s a constant battle. Seriously, if anyone has any tips or knows of something that actually works for this kind of misery, please let me know because I am reaching my limit here!

(*)

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Linda Martin6 said:The question remains: What is your actual diagnosis?

a) Mental burnout from being overworked (based on what you described, this seems unlikely),
b) A chronic surplus of free time combined with not knowing how to use it,
c) Something else?

You know your situation best, so I'd suggest trying to write down your current circumstances and their causes on paper. If you can pinpoint why this is happening, it might be easier to find a way out.

I’ve been keeping up this nightly ritual where I sit down and fill up a few A5 pages in my journal every single night, honestly.
It’s only the second day I’ve been reading this, and honestly, it feels like it was written by someone who just won't shut up!
Sometimes I feel like this whole thing is straight out of a sci-fi movie.

Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

I’m going through something pretty similar right now, though honestly, the kind of pain I'm dealing with is on a whole different level—one I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy (and trust me, that's saying something). We're talking serious stuff like gallbladder issues, gastritis, acid reflux, plus kidney, lung, and arthritis problems all hitting at once. It's a mess.

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Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

(*)

Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

Minimalism is always the way to go if you ask me. Honestly, I’ve got a massive aversion to pharmacotherapy.
Even though I catch myself falling for the same crap every now and then too.

Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

Yeah, that’s exactly where I’m headed too.
That’s my number one goal, period.
Man, once you start doing actual physical labor, everything just shifts. You get that compensation from the grind, and then there’s this primal, natural urge for food and water that kicks in—it’s like your body is screaming for fuel. Then boom, total smash hit: you lean into pure minimalism when picking what to eat, and suddenly, all those insomnia issues? Just gone. Gone.

No issues at all with (*).

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Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

Rat? Seriously? What kind of question is that even supposed to be? You can't just drop one word like that and expect me to dive into your head! If you're asking if I think someone's being a snitch, or if there's a literal rodent running around your kitchen, you gotta give me some context, man! Just lay it out for me!
Alright, look, I know this is a bit of a tangent... but
Man... if things actually kick off into a war... *pats shoulder* I mean, honestly? It’s all about the shoulder. If you aren't focusing on that area, you're basically just spinning your wheels. Nice work! 👍

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Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

That’s another solid point right there—but honestly, I’m looking at this from a completely different angle.
(see below)

Lawrence Bailey77 said:depending on how things stand at the moment

my brain was essentially wiped clean when some idiot crushed my skull and mangled my brain matter...

ah, those were the days... nothing but pain. No problems, really. I didn't even have thoughts...

there was only the pain.🙂

And once that finally subsided, I was just relieved the hurting had stopped. Between being on various medications and dealing with the physical tremors from the head trauma, I wasn't really thinking too deeply about what had happened to me, let alone why.😵 But unfortunately, the mental interference—that constant buzzing in my head—started creeping in almost immediately. It was as if they were just waiting for me to survive the initial hit before they began their work.🙂

The psychological torture was intense; I spent somewhere around four years constantly contemplating suicide, at least until about last year. Things have been improving slightly, but you know how it goes.

Anyway, this is your topic. I just wanted to highlight my circumstances so you can use them as a guide. Don't be too harsh or overly critical of yourself, the way I used to be with myself.

In truth, I had this sort of ptspovski energy that I tried to channel into something productive, which, I suppose, isn't particularly easy.😵

When I was struggling just to breathe and felt like I was at the very end of my rope—it was like that back then—I told myself, "Okay, fine. Let's start over." I had experienced every hollow, pyrrhic victory offered to me, the kind I conjured up in paranoid delusions and schizophrenic episodes, so I decided to just begin from scratch.

Evolution. Like a single-celled organism... just the basics. The most fundamental stuff.

Breathing was the starting point. You can't do anything without breathing properly. To achieve that, I guess you need a certain amount of peace of mind, and since that process consumes a lot of nutrients, I had to think about food. Cheap food, obviously.😁 And thank God, some of the cheapest staples are actually better than most expensive options. As for hydration, there’s no better liquid to quench thirst than water.

Minimalism served as a therapy more effective than all the pills I tried to avoid whenever possible—though, given that endless mental static, they became necessary at times.

So, bit by bit... always aware that everything could fall apart. And sometimes it did; I would fall and have to start all over again. Creating a system to manage food and water was the goal, and honestly, it still is.😬 It always will be. The paranoia never truly vanishes. PTSD is like a permanent pet that you can never quite take off the leash. I have my struggles.😵

Just hold on, keep pushing.

In short: build whatever system is possible for you, one that you create and maintain yourself.👍

It belongs to you, and you alone possess the power to either destroy it or build it up. You are the one in control, not anyone else.

Think of it as your own personal programming language, if you want to look at it that way.👍

P.S. For what it's worth, before my "rebirth," I was never an organized person. In fact, Discipline was something entirely foreign to me.

I'm a mathematician/programmer by trade—meaning if I were to write an algorithm for myself, I'm pretty sure I could function that way. Even if it feels a bit robotic at first (title of this thread)

Linda Martin6 said:I’ve definitely found myself in this spot before, especially during those stretches when my health wasn't exactly at its best.
What worked for me was just laying everything out on paper in a schedule.
Keep it simple:
?? hours (about 1 hour): running, cycling, or just a long walk
?? hours (about 1 hour): reading a book (honestly, this is huge for me; it's how I actually unwind)
?? hours (about half an hour): studying a foreign language)
?? hours (about 15 min): some quick home workouts

I don't remember the exact timing of everything, and frankly, the specific hours don't even matter.
The results were immediate. After just a few days of sticking to it, I felt like a completely different person.

- I'd just add to what Lawrence Bailey77 mentioned regarding "pain"
like, when something hurts (that much), there's zero chance I'm moving anywhere
even if I had some killer plan all laid out the night before.

Linda Martin6 said:I’ve definitely found myself in this spot before, especially during those stretches when my health wasn't exactly at its best.
What worked for me was just laying everything out on paper in a schedule.
Keep it simple:
?? hours (about 1 hour): running, cycling, or just a long walk
?? hours (about 1 hour): reading a book (honestly, this is huge for me; it's how I actually unwind)
?? hours (about half an hour): studying a foreign language)
?? hours (about 15 min): some quick home workouts

I don't remember the exact timing of everything, and frankly, the specific hours don't even matter.
The results were immediate. After just a few days of sticking to it, I felt like a completely different person.

cycling - cool
reading books grabbing coffee at a local cafe
learning a language grabbing coffee at a local cafe
workouts - cool - right after waking up...

Linda Martin6 said:I’ve definitely found myself in this spot before, especially during those stretches when my health wasn't exactly at its best.
What worked for me was just laying everything out on paper in a schedule.
Keep it simple:
?? hours (about 1 hour): running, cycling, or just a long walk
?? hours (about 1 hour): reading a book (honestly, this is huge for me; it's how I actually unwind)
?? hours (about half an hour): studying a foreign language)
?? hours (about 15 min): some quick home workouts

I don't remember the exact timing of everything, and frankly, the specific hours don't even matter.
The results were immediate. After just a few days of sticking to it, I felt like a completely different person.

I'm not so hyped up that I need instant gratification or fixes,
it's more about sticking to the "algorithm"
- though I am aware that eventually, this "regime" will result in a change in my character, looks, emotions, and physical needs

and let me just underline that part twice
==
rolling Mr. Beard
darkcanyon10 darkcanyon10 Active Member
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#12 ·
mistyseal11 said:Instead of just spinning my wheels over mental health issues or getting lost in endless psychological analysis,
I seriously need to start doing something, because—honestly—work is the only thing keeping me afloat right now.

I’ve completely lost my North Star—like, I don't even know why I'm bothering to live.
I have absolutely zero direction left.
I don't even want anything anymore...
Just existing feels totally pointless.

I can tell I'm spiraling, and honestly, I feel like I'm just continuing to hit rock bottom,
and my health is taking a massive dive with every single day that passes...

I don't see any way out unless I find some kind of way to force structure into my daily routine.
Reading books, catching up on the news, or even doing crosswords—none of that does a damn thing...

....so if anyone actually wants to help, go for it, because I am completely out of ideas on how to turn my life around.
I have no clue how to get moving, other than setting an alarm to go off every N minutes just to remind me to actually do stuff.

Also, if anyone just wants to jump in and confirm that life is meaningless—hey, feel free to do that too.

Thank God you lost your compass. You need to lose it.😉
Having a compass all the time, knowing all the answers to the big questions... it's boring.
This is more interesting.

What does "spiraling" actually mean?
And what's an "out"?
Order matters... but right now, Discipline would be more important.
It's fine to be tired. It's fine to feel exhausted and aimless. It's fine to go through hellish feelings.
But man, if it goes too far, that's when it gets heavy.
Force yourself. Day by day. There isn't another way.
Get help.
Smells like depression to me.
And with depression, meds can help.
Writing this stuff down might help too.

Once you're past this (and you will be).... the good thoughts and meaningful days start coming back. 😁
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#13 ·
darkcanyon10 said:Thank God you lost your compass. You need to lose it.😉
Having a compass all the time, knowing all the answers to the big questions... it's boring.
This is more interesting.

What does "spiraling" actually mean?
And what's an "out"?
Order matters... but right now, Discipline would be more important.
It's fine to be tired. It's fine to feel exhausted and aimless. It's fine to go through hellish feelings.
But man, if it goes too far, that's when it gets heavy.
Force yourself. Day by day. There isn't another way.
Get help.
Smells like depression to me.
And with depression, meds can help.
Writing this stuff down might help too.

Once you're past this (and you will be).... the good thoughts and meaningful days start coming back. 😁

Look,
living like this just doesn't make sense anymore.
I mean, how am I supposed to do the exact same thing every single day and actually expect my life to change?

Go seek help?! Give me a break.
I don't need some nurse ( 😬 )

And don't even get me started on meds, what a joke.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#14 ·
So, you actually got a goal in life?
Then you just lock in a routine aimed at that target and boom—that’s it. Look, obviously there’s going to be some friction at first and it takes a minute to get dialed in, but once you're focused, everything just kind of falls into place on its own.
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
250 messages
joined Aug 2007
#15 ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:So, you actually got a goal in life?
Then you just lock in a routine aimed at that target and boom—that’s it. Look, obviously there’s going to be some friction at first and it takes a minute to get dialed in, but once you're focused, everything just kind of falls into place on its own.

Man, if only I actually had a goal...
Then everything would be easy and things would just flow naturally without all this struggle.
It’s one thing to come up with a strategy when you're fighting a regular organized army...
...but in my case, I'm out here fighting a guerrilla war...

For now, I'm just trying to stick to a routine per se — even without a target in sight...
darkcanyon10 darkcanyon10 Active Member
71 messages
joined Jun 2012
#16 ·
mistyseal11;56892244 said:
so,
this life is pointless.
how am I supposed to do the same damn thing every day and expect things to change?

Why's it pointless?
What kind of life are you actually looking for?
What does a "good day" even look like to you?

get help!? hell no.
don't need some nurse ( 😬 )

forget meds,

F14

Then what do you need?
Maria Price3 Maria Price3 Active Member
82 messages
joined Oct 2020
#17 ·
Is there anything that actually scares you?
Does anything even make you angry anymore?

Have you just... gone numb?

Try to imagine the absolute worst-case scenario—the kind of disaster that could derail your entire life. Do you feel anything at all?
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
250 messages
joined Aug 2007
#18 ·
Maria Price3 said:Is there anything that actually scares you?
Does anything even make you angry anymore?

Have you just... gone numb?

Try to imagine the absolute worst-case scenario—the kind of disaster that could derail your entire life. Do you feel anything at all?

nah

Maria Price3 said:Is there anything that actually scares you?
Does anything even make you angry anymore?

Have you just... gone numb?

Try to imagine the absolute worst-case scenario—the kind of disaster that could derail your entire life. Do you feel anything at all?

Honestly, it just depends on my mood and if I can somehow turn it into a joke or laugh about it instead of just losing my mind.

Maria Price3 said:Is there anything that actually scares you?
Does anything even make you angry anymore?

Have you just... gone numb?

Try to imagine the absolute worst-case scenario—the kind of disaster that could derail your entire life. Do you feel anything at all?

yeah, I definitely come off as pretty cold

Maria Price3 said:Is there anything that actually scares you?
Does anything even make you angry anymore?

Have you just... gone numb?

Try to imagine the absolute worst-case scenario—the kind of disaster that could derail your entire life. Do you feel anything at all?

Again, it's mood-dependent, but let's be real—there's always something worse out there...
but whatever, I don't feel much because I know I'll survive. (check that first quote in this post)
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 RegularOP
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#19 ·
"Quote:"
darkcanyon10 said:Look, I’m gonna be real with you—why even bother grinding through a life like that? It just doesn't add up, man. You’re out here running on empty, chasing things that don't actually mean anything, and honestly, what's the point? It feels totally hollow.


Honestly, what's even the point? Like, why would you bother crawling out of bed just to flop onto the couch, only to end up dragging your tired self right back to bed again? It's totally pointless.
In the meantime, I’m just gonna sit here, smoke through my entire pack of Marlboros, knock back a few gallons of coffee and whiskey, and whatever else comes my way.

"Quote:"
darkcanyon10 said:
So, what kind of life are you actually looking for? Like, seriously, what’s the endgame here?
So, what would a perfect day actually look like for me? Honestly, I’m not looking for anything crazy or over-the-top, just those little moments that make everything feel right. It’d start with waking up without an alarm for once—just naturally feeling rested—and grabbing a massive coffee from Starbucks before the morning rush hits. Then maybe hitting a local trail for a long hike or just driving out toward the suburbs where it’s quiet, you know? Just some peace and quiet. Throw in a killer burger from a greasy spoon diner, catching a game on TV, and maybe hanging out with good people where the conversation actually flows... man, that’s the dream. Nothing fancy, just pure vibes and zero stress.

Man, if I could actually nail the answer to this one, I would be over the moon!
That's exactly what I was asking!

Honestly, looking at all those options, I think I could probably find something in there that actually works for me.

Man, I honestly can't even deal with those rigid, hour-by-hour daily schedules... they just don't work for me!

"Quote:"
darkcanyon10 said:So, what can I do for you?

I’ve got everything under my belt... except an actual life.
Maria Price3 Maria Price3 Active Member
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#20 ·
mistyseal11 said:nah

Honestly, it just depends on my mood and if I can somehow turn it into a joke or laugh about it instead of just losing my mind.

yeah, I definitely come off as pretty cold

Again, it's mood-dependent, but let's be real—there's always something worse out there...
but whatever, I don't feel much because I know I'll survive. (check that first quote in this post)

In that case, just keep diving until you hit the absolute floor; once you're staring death right in the face—well, you'll either snap out of it or you won't.

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