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Should you stick to your roots when you move away?

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quietdriver quietdriver MemberOP
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joined Jul 2010
#1 ·
I’m curious—how do you all think newcomers should actually carry themselves? Should they just dive headfirst into the local customs and ways of the country they’ve landed in, or is it better to hold onto their own culture and expect the locals to embrace that diversity?
Susan Gonzalez Susan Gonzalez Member
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joined Oct 2015
#2 ·
Forget it. You can keep your little traditions to yourself at home, not out here in public. Only an uncultured person fails to respect the local customs of their host. I suppose if you traveled to New Guinea, you’d try to bring your own sausages and cabbage rolls along with you. Just go ahead—they’re already boiling the water in the pot, and they’ll probably just hang your small-minded self from the porch instead.🙏
Nicholas Nguyen Nicholas Nguyen Active Member
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joined Oct 2016
#3 ·
When you find yourself in Rome...
Susan Gonzalez Susan Gonzalez Member
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joined Oct 2015
#4 ·
Then you're just stuck at the intersection by Saint Peter
rapidrider11 rapidrider11 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2015
#5 ·
When you're in Rome, live like a local.

It’s just about being decent, honestly. If you actually want to fit in with the crowd, you should probably try meeting them halfway for once.
Susan Gonzalez Susan Gonzalez Member
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#6 ·
rapidrider11 said:When you're in Rome, live like a local.

It’s just about being decent, honestly. If you actually want to fit in with the crowd, you should probably try meeting them halfway for once.

👍
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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joined Oct 2017
#7 ·
quietdriver said:I’m curious—how do you all think newcomers should actually carry themselves? Should they just dive headfirst into the local customs and ways of the country they’ve landed in, or is it better to hold onto their own culture and expect the locals to embrace that diversity?

Hold onto your own traditions, obviously—as long as you aren't clashing with the way things work in the neighborhood you moved into.
copperskipper38 copperskipper38 Member
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#8 ·
Here is the sentiment expressed by Kevin Rudd, the Australian Prime Minister:

"We invite you to embrace our faith and live alongside us in harmony, peace, and joy. This is OUR HOME, OUR COUNTRY, and OUR WAY OF LIFE, and we are more than happy to let you enjoy all of it. However, if you cannot stop complaining about, protesting against, or showing disdain for OUR FLAG, OUR HONOR, OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH, and OUR WAY OF LIFE, then I would sincerely suggest you take advantage of the other great liberty available to Australians: THE FREEDOM TO LEAVE OUR COUNTRY."

"If you are unhappy here, then LEAVE. No one forced you to come here against your will; you chose to seek refuge with us. Therefore, you should accept the nation that YOU chose."

http://www.american-focus.com/index.p...australian-government
Ethan Ross Ethan Ross Newcomer
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joined Aug 2015
#9 ·
quietdriver said:I’m curious—how do you all think newcomers should actually carry themselves? Should they just dive headfirst into the local customs and ways of the country they’ve landed in, or is it better to hold onto their own culture and expect the locals to embrace that diversity?

It really just comes down to personal taste. But honestly, you aren't exactly going to be walking around in traditional folk attire every day anyway. You show up, you work, and you live your life just like you did back home. In the end, it all pretty much boils down to the same thing...
Jessica Torres63 Jessica Torres63 Member
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#10 ·
copperskipper38 said:Here is the sentiment expressed by Kevin Rudd, the Australian Prime Minister:

"We invite you to embrace our faith and live alongside us in harmony, peace, and joy. This is OUR HOME, OUR COUNTRY, and OUR WAY OF LIFE, and we are more than happy to let you enjoy all of it. However, if you cannot stop complaining about, protesting against, or showing disdain for OUR FLAG, OUR HONOR, OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH, and OUR WAY OF LIFE, then I would sincerely suggest you take advantage of the other great liberty available to Australians: THE FREEDOM TO LEAVE OUR COUNTRY."

"If you are unhappy here, then LEAVE. No one forced you to come here against your will; you chose to seek refuge with us. Therefore, you should accept the nation that YOU chose."

http://www.american-focus.com/index.p...australian-government


And honestly, I think that's totally fair... personally, I'm planning on moving to Australia soon and I am definitely going to try to live exactly like that...

I mean, I really feel like when you move to a new country and you're basically staying there forever, you really need to become part of that community, you know? Like, embrace the customs, celebrate the national holidays and stuff like that...

But at the same time, you shouldn't ever forget where you came from or try to hide your roots either...
Bradley Sanders4 Bradley Sanders4 Active Member
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#11 ·
copperskipper38 said:Here is the sentiment expressed by Kevin Rudd, the Australian Prime Minister:

"We invite you to embrace our faith and live alongside us in harmony, peace, and joy. This is OUR HOME, OUR COUNTRY, and OUR WAY OF LIFE, and we are more than happy to let you enjoy all of it. However, if you cannot stop complaining about, protesting against, or showing disdain for OUR FLAG, OUR HONOR, OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH, and OUR WAY OF LIFE, then I would sincerely suggest you take advantage of the other great liberty available to Australians: THE FREEDOM TO LEAVE OUR COUNTRY."

"If you are unhappy here, then LEAVE. No one forced you to come here against your will; you chose to seek refuge with us. Therefore, you should accept the nation that YOU chose."

http://www.american-focus.com/index.p...australian-government

The hypocrite finally spoke up. 🤣 Isn't it funny? His ancestors were the first ones to show up in a FOREIGN land, bring their own customs, their own religion, and their own flag, STEAL the land from the natives, and HUNT them down for sport.
Morgan Cook10 Morgan Cook10 Active Member
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#12 ·
quietdriver said:I’m curious—how do you all think newcomers should actually carry themselves? Should they just dive headfirst into the local customs and ways of the country they’ve landed in, or is it better to hold onto their own culture and expect the locals to embrace that diversity?

It really depends on where you're heading.
If you move to somewhere like Germany, for example, you obviously need to respect the traditions of the people providing you with a livelihood. You can keep your own heritage alive within your family, provided you aren't being disrespectful to your hosts.
But if you're just moving from one city to another within the States... there's no real reason to change who you are, because those customs are basically the national standard anyway. If someone has an issue with that... they're free to move out of the US.

The third scenario is when you move to a place that doesn't strictly "belong" to any one group—take places like Australia or the USA, or any sort of multinational melting pot. In those cases, you should definitely hang onto your roots, because in a country where everyone is a guest, everyone is also a host.
copperskipper38 copperskipper38 Member
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#13 ·
Bradley Sanders4 said:The hypocrite finally spoke up. 🤣 Isn't it funny? His ancestors were the first ones to show up in a FOREIGN land, bring their own customs, their own religion, and their own flag, STEAL the land from the natives, and HUNT them down for sport.

So, what exactly is the problem with his statement? 🤷
Bradley Sanders4 Bradley Sanders4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2018
#14 ·
She's a total hypocrite.
Samuel Parker Samuel Parker Active Member
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joined Oct 2017
#15 ·
Americans tend to assimilate quite quickly when they move abroad. Before you know it, even the grandchildren of immigrants have lost touch with the American language.
Ethan Ross Ethan Ross Newcomer
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joined Aug 2015
#16 ·
Samuel Parker said:Americans tend to assimilate quite quickly when they move abroad. Before you know it, even the grandchildren of immigrants have lost touch with the American language.

It’s not just the grandkids; honestly, most of the time, even the very first generation loses it. And sometimes, the original immigrant wants to forget it all anyway! But hey, what can you do...
Susan Gonzalez Susan Gonzalez Member
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joined Oct 2015
#17 ·
I suppose I can already see how this is going to play out... if things go the way they seem to be heading, once the dam breaks in Mexico, Middle Eastern folk customs will flow straight through Greece and directly into America. Honestly, I suspect this is exactly what certain power centers have planned. That’s why they install yes-men in key bureaucratic positions, only to dispatch them on assignments via spies who have maneuvered their way into the top brainwashing spots held by party leaders. And while the church washes away what little remains of any rational thought from heads that were long since hollowed out, the rest of the destroyed, educated middle class—that looted former echelon—just suffers and listens to primitive howling... wrapped in lamb meat, spring onions, and flatulence. I don't realistically see any chance of America surviving with such a submissive mentality, which has been ingrained since the era of the old Republic. A nation isn't protected just by guns, but by knowledge and hard work, and in America, that is in extremely short supply. Everyone seems solely focused on how to screw over the state and how quickly they can secure their own families through theft and fraud. This formula is universally accepted by all the crooks and criminals from the North America and beyond. It’s been studied and practiced since the days of Mesopotamia, refined through Babylon, Jerusalem, all the way to Rome, London, Paris, and Berlin. After all, how else do you justify your own impulse to plunder and cheat, if not with a globalized formula? You steal and grab, and God forgives you through moneylenders and racketeers, provided you pay interest for the rest of your life. On the condition that you enroll everyone from your grandmother down to the family cat and dog into their bank. The leaders of these rituals, filled with turkey, have everything printed out for them on paper so they don't even have to think. They aren't quite stupid enough to be unable to add two and two. Nowadays, even an average Joe knows how to parade his kids around in a Mercedes, even if all four rims are different. You see kids pouring out of shopping mall doors like something out of a Lassalle comic. I guess when you see a neighbor in a newer model car, you just stop all traffic to ask him about his AC or his speaker setup. This "turbo-state" is rapidly accelerating toward the total dilution of all moral and ethical principles. The masters knew how to force people to flee across three continents without firing a single bullet just by using starvation... so, dear Americans, whether you want to or not, you'll find yourselves listening on the old town squares of the republic—or whatever strange names they go by today—to figures like Grdović the car-suicide enthusiast, the hero Thompson, or Ceca... it doesn't matter. It will be hard to ever hear rock n' roll again, let alone Beethoven, except maybe on PBS while you're recovering from the Christmas and New Year's binge, before eventually facing the original Middle Eastern melodies accompanied by the scent of oil and candles... And why do you think that is?
The other option is the one being quietly wished for in certain business circles, which is already starting to be revealed by the directors of hell. They just need a little more material... pure hatred for anyone different, right down to the core. Pair some wine with Hitler, Glavonja style. And then, perhaps, a new Bleiburg American scenario, if they fall into the trap and stage some new Reality show... believe it or not, it all depends on the calculations of the mega-spies and politicians regarding when and how they will need the services of their recent mortal enemies (you think it's like that because you've been screwed over for a long time, but actually, you've had a "scam" chip implanted in you since birth, which gets activated remotely whenever necessary). Since everything is a trade of souls, and most people sold theirs to the devil long ago for a refrigerator, someone else's apartment, some hardwood floors, or a weekend house with a job lined up for their daughter and her boyfriend, you can't really expect much. Opportunities for bribes are dwindling... and time, like the bells of Notre Dame, is ticking. Click clack, there goes the head... (back in the days of peace, we used to write tick tock)
Lawrence Rodriguez11 Lawrence Rodriguez11 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#18 ·
Bradley Sanders4 said:The hypocrite finally spoke up. 🤣 Isn't it funny? His ancestors were the first ones to show up in a FOREIGN land, bring their own customs, their own religion, and their own flag, STEAL the land from the natives, and HUNT them down for sport.

Honestly, what kind of nonsense is that? If we're following that logic, then Americans are just guests too, since they arrived and pushed out the Illyrians who were the original inhabitants here. That’s all ancient history at this point. This is the USA now, or Australia... whatever. People moving here need to respect the local laws, the traditions, the culture, and just the general way of life. The Prime Minister is spot on—everyone should approach it with that same mindset.
Lawrence Rodriguez11 Lawrence Rodriguez11 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#19 ·
Morgan Cook10 said:It really depends on where you're heading.
If you move to somewhere like Germany, for example, you obviously need to respect the traditions of the people providing you with a livelihood. You can keep your own heritage alive within your family, provided you aren't being disrespectful to your hosts.
But if you're just moving from one city to another within the States... there's no real reason to change who you are, because those customs are basically the national standard anyway. If someone has an issue with that... they're free to move out of the US.

The third scenario is when you move to a place that doesn't strictly "belong" to any one group—take places like Australia or the USA, or any sort of multinational melting pot. In those cases, you should definitely hang onto your roots, because in a country where everyone is a guest, everyone is also a host.

You’ve written a lot here, but I don't think you're quite grasping the point.
Lawrence Rodriguez11 Lawrence Rodriguez11 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#20 ·
Ethan Ross said:It’s not just the grandkids; honestly, most of the time, even the very first generation loses it. And sometimes, the original immigrant wants to forget it all anyway! But hey, what can you do...

God forgive them, they really have no idea what they're talking about.😵

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