Are men more spiritual than women?

Kimberly Smith6 said:I’ve been sitting here reflecting on the complexities of human nature, and I can't help but feel that women often lean more toward the material side of life than men do—though, perhaps, that’s just my own limited perception coloring the view. It seems to me there's this deep-seated need for them to find stability through a partner, almost as if an underlying sense of insecurity drives them to seek out a man who can provide that anchor. And then, once that foundation is laid, there is this profound, driving impulse to build up a family and create something lasting together. It’s a complicated dance of needs and motivations, isn't it?
It honestly feels like some people have this almost innate, restless compulsion to conjure up a massive crisis out of thin air when absolutely nothing is wrong! It’s like they possess this peculiar talent for taking a perfectly calm situation and somehow twisting it into a monumental catastrophe, creating drama where none existed just moments before.
And of course, they just have this incredible knack for making everything as unnecessarily complicated as humanly possible, don't they? It’s almost like a talent! They seem to absolutely thrive on conflict—just living for the drama, the arguments, and those endless, heated disputes that never seem to end.

I’m currently typing this up on my mobile device via Tapatalk 2, specifically while wearing my Samsung Galaxy Fit S5670.

I mean, if women are supposedly such a nightmare and men are just pure perfection, then why would any guy even bother looking for a wife in the first place? He could just go hang out with gurus or priests instead—there are plenty of ways to find peace without the headache.😁

Ryan Wilson2 said:Hmm, I used to think along those lines myself, but I find myself becoming increasingly skeptical of this notion. Why should anyone be required to develop both principles if we are born inherently embodying just one? Why wouldn't our primary purpose, for instance, simply be to cultivate the specific principle we were born with? Furthermore, how is a man even supposed to connect with his feminine side when he lacks the fundamental physical predispositions—such as the innate instinct of motherhood, menstruation, or a direct connection to lunar cycles, and so on? We aren't even physically aligned with women; so how can we possibly expect to achieve this spiritually, unless we simply latch onto vague concepts that someone attributed to a "feminine principle" thousands of years ago?

The reverse is equally true.

I’d actually argue we should lean back into that kind of thinking because intuition is a real product of the mind and it’s actually useful.

Skepticism is just what happens when you try to interpret things through a lens that’s easily fooled—especially in this current era where everything feels spiritually numb and hollowed out.

Ryan Wilson2 said:Hmm, I used to think along those lines myself, but I find myself becoming increasingly skeptical of this notion. Why should anyone be required to develop both principles if we are born inherently embodying just one? Why wouldn't our primary purpose, for instance, simply be to cultivate the specific principle we were born with? Furthermore, how is a man even supposed to connect with his feminine side when he lacks the fundamental physical predispositions—such as the innate instinct of motherhood, menstruation, or a direct connection to lunar cycles, and so on? We aren't even physically aligned with women; so how can we possibly expect to achieve this spiritually, unless we simply latch onto vague concepts that someone attributed to a "feminine principle" thousands of years ago?

The reverse is equally true.

Look, a human being isn't born as a single principle; we're more like an intertwined manifestation of both, even if one side hits harder than the other.

There is no electricity, no magnetism, and certainly no human body without polarity. Period.

Ryan Wilson2 said:Hmm, I used to think along those lines myself, but I find myself becoming increasingly skeptical of this notion. Why should anyone be required to develop both principles if we are born inherently embodying just one? Why wouldn't our primary purpose, for instance, simply be to cultivate the specific principle we were born with? Furthermore, how is a man even supposed to connect with his feminine side when he lacks the fundamental physical predispositions—such as the innate instinct of motherhood, menstruation, or a direct connection to lunar cycles, and so on? We aren't even physically aligned with women; so how can we possibly expect to achieve this spiritually, unless we simply latch onto vague concepts that someone attributed to a "feminine principle" thousands of years ago?

The reverse is equally true.

You’re confusing the general elements of the female Human BIC with the much deeper principles of manifestation living inside every single person.

The masculine principle is active; the feminine is passive.

For a guy, a perfect example of balancing that feminine principle would be developing various sensibilities.
Like aesthetics, empathy, and all that.

Take a real-world scenario: a man feels this overwhelming urge to go beat someone else's legs in, just because they did him wrong. If he taps into empathy in that moment, it doesn't make him "girly"—it allows him to see the weakness and misery in the other guy. It lets him balance out that heavy fire and active energy within himself, cooling his own rage and finding some semblance of internal harmony.

= No skirt required. The idiot stays with his intact legs and waits for his own karma to deliver a better lesson to his soul, while our hero avoids landing in a jail cell for intentionally causing pain to another BIC.

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Ryan Wilson2 says: Look, we aren't even physically close to women most of the time, so how on earth do we expect to bridge that gap spiritually? Unless, of course, we just latch onto some vague, murky principles that some guy scribbled down thousands of years ago and slapped a label on called the "feminine principle"

Listen, achieving harmony between those inner masculine and feminine energies doesn't mean a man needs to start wearing skirts; it’s about finding a way to balance his own internal world.

Nobody just "assigned" these things arbitrarily. It’s more like—back when people actually had a spiritual backbone and weren't just chasing the next dopamine hit—they gradually realized how the universe actually functions. They wrote these truths down for future civilizations so we wouldn't all be living in total idiocy. It wasn't meant to make us restart the search from scratch every generation, but to let us build on what was already discovered so human progress on this planet could actually move forward.

Dana Davis5, if you actually happen to be a woman, then please, stop talking down to us. It’s a well-known fact that there's a special circle of hell reserved specifically for those who spend their lives tearing other women down—and honestly, they usually get exactly what they put out into the world.

Ryan Wilson2 said:One could argue that any narrative can be twisted to suit a specific agenda. Is it not possible that the woman was simply the only one possessing enough intellect and a genuine thirst for knowledge to be swayed, while Adam was perfectly content just staring at Eve's naked form? 😁

She was brilliant at first, but that’s where he failed—he spun this myth about some monster devouring children... so he just moved on to the next one, some snake charmer. 🤣

Kimberly Smith6 said:I’ve been sitting here reflecting on the complexities of human nature, and I can't help but feel that women often lean more toward the material side of life than men do—though, perhaps, that’s just my own limited perception coloring the view. It seems to me there's this deep-seated need for them to find stability through a partner, almost as if an underlying sense of insecurity drives them to seek out a man who can provide that anchor. And then, once that foundation is laid, there is this profound, driving impulse to build up a family and create something lasting together. It’s a complicated dance of needs and motivations, isn't it?
It honestly feels like some people have this almost innate, restless compulsion to conjure up a massive crisis out of thin air when absolutely nothing is wrong! It’s like they possess this peculiar talent for taking a perfectly calm situation and somehow twisting it into a monumental catastrophe, creating drama where none existed just moments before.
And of course, they just have this incredible knack for making everything as unnecessarily complicated as humanly possible, don't they? It’s almost like a talent! They seem to absolutely thrive on conflict—just living for the drama, the arguments, and those endless, heated disputes that never seem to end.

I’m currently typing this up on my mobile device via Tapatalk 2, specifically while wearing my Samsung Galaxy Fit S5670.

That’s why you have to know how to handle them. 😁 Even if you have to take a page out of Nietzsche's book:
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When you visit a woman, bring a BIC

And then there's Schopenhauer:

"That certain type—short, narrow-shouldered, wide-hipped, and short-legged—could only be called beautiful by a human intellect blinded by sexual instinct: for in that instinct lies all its beauty. One could more rightly, than calling them beautiful, call the female sex unesthetic. In truth, women have no sense for music, poetry, painting, logic, or genuine emotion; if they claim otherwise, it is merely a superficial imitation driven by a desire to please."

hollowpuma762 said:Nope.

Inner harmony is one thing, but the synergy of a relationship—the kind that serves as the foundation for Life itself—is something else entirely.
The principle of polarity isn't just some psychological trick; it weaves through and scales across the entire system of manifestation.

A healthy relationship actually acts as a catalyst for an individual's internal growth.

Partners act as mirrors. They show you how your own actions ripple out and affect the person you're most deeply connected to. It expands your awareness, forcing you to confront your own issues so you can finally deal with them.

A person can't really optimize their internal components until they see them playing out in the physical world.
Some parts of us only truly manifest once we're in a relationship.

I totally agree with you there, 👍 I just had one little question though... are you speaking from your own personal experience or what?

Dana Davis5 said:I mean, if women are supposedly such a nightmare and men are just pure perfection, then why would any guy even bother looking for a wife in the first place? He could just go hang out with gurus or priests instead—there are plenty of ways to find peace without the headache.😁

Well, I suppose it’s because God—or perhaps just Mother Nature—designed men with such an incredibly powerful sexual drive, to the point where they can initiate intimacy without much fanfare at all. Beyond that, a healthy man can remain fertile well into his 70s, whereas a healthy woman might face menopause as early as her 30s, or perhaps in her 40s if she's particularly lucky; anything else is really quite rare.

Then there is the other matter of certain men being unable to conceive due to an unhealthy lifestyle—poor diet, smoking, and things of that nature—but that isn't really a valid counterpoint, unless you view it as an example of how a poor lifestyle can lead to consequences so severe that they even stifle one's sexual vitality.

If you were to effectively switch off a man's sexual drive, then you finally arrive at the answer to why guys don't approach women anymore; instead, they simply occupy themselves with other pursuits.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:That’s why you have to know how to handle them. 😁 Even if you have to take a page out of Nietzsche's book:
😲

When you visit a woman, bring a BIC

And then there's Schopenhauer:

"That certain type—short, narrow-shouldered, wide-hipped, and short-legged—could only be called beautiful by a human intellect blinded by sexual instinct: for in that instinct lies all its beauty. One could more rightly, than calling them beautiful, call the female sex unesthetic. In truth, women have no sense for music, poetry, painting, logic, or genuine emotion; if they claim otherwise, it is merely a superficial imitation driven by a desire to please."

The days of the Ghost or using physical discipline as a corrective measure when a woman goes too far and loses sight of reality are long gone. Nowadays, the wife, the police, the courts, the neighbors, and the whole damn world will descend upon a man in an instant.

I remember watching this video on YouTube where two actors staged a scene of violence—playing the victim and the aggressor—to see how the public would react on a film set. When the man acted as though he were attacking the woman (without actually hitting her), people rushed to intervene immediately. But when they swapped roles, with the woman as the aggressor and the man as the victim, nobody reacted at all. In fact, some people even laughed!

Of course, I am certainly not advocating for violence.

There is also that old saying that when God created woman, the devil laughed.

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swiftpanther26 said:I totally agree with you there, 👍 I just had one little question though... are you speaking from your own personal experience or what?

Look, if I just leaned on my own personal stories to explain these principles, it wouldn't be nearly as objective or helpful for anyone else reading this. Sure, my own experiences are part of the puzzle, but they're just one small piece of a much larger data set.

hollowpuma762 said:I’d actually argue we should lean back into that kind of thinking because intuition is a real product of the mind and it’s actually useful.

Skepticism is just what happens when you try to interpret things through a lens that’s easily fooled—especially in this current era where everything feels spiritually numb and hollowed out.

Look, a human being isn't born as a single principle; we're more like an intertwined manifestation of both, even if one side hits harder than the other.

There is no electricity, no magnetism, and certainly no human body without polarity. Period.

You’re confusing the general elements of the female Human BIC with the much deeper principles of manifestation living inside every single person.

The masculine principle is active; the feminine is passive.

For a guy, a perfect example of balancing that feminine principle would be developing various sensibilities.
Like aesthetics, empathy, and all that.

Take a real-world scenario: a man feels this overwhelming urge to go beat someone else's legs in, just because they did him wrong. If he taps into empathy in that moment, it doesn't make him "girly"—it allows him to see the weakness and misery in the other guy. It lets him balance out that heavy fire and active energy within himself, cooling his own rage and finding some semblance of internal harmony.

= No skirt required. The idiot stays with his intact legs and waits for his own karma to deliver a better lesson to his soul, while our hero avoids landing in a jail cell for intentionally causing pain to another BIC.

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Ryan Wilson2 says: Look, we aren't even physically close to women most of the time, so how on earth do we expect to bridge that gap spiritually? Unless, of course, we just latch onto some vague, murky principles that some guy scribbled down thousands of years ago and slapped a label on called the "feminine principle"

Listen, achieving harmony between those inner masculine and feminine energies doesn't mean a man needs to start wearing skirts; it’s about finding a way to balance his own internal world.

Nobody just "assigned" these things arbitrarily. It’s more like—back when people actually had a spiritual backbone and weren't just chasing the next dopamine hit—they gradually realized how the universe actually functions. They wrote these truths down for future civilizations so we wouldn't all be living in total idiocy. It wasn't meant to make us restart the search from scratch every generation, but to let us build on what was already discovered so human progress on this planet could actually move forward.

As for myself, returning to that particular mindset is simply impossible. I have come to realize that such reasoning is merely something one absorbs from textbooks—it lacks any genuine connection to reality. At least, that is how reality presents itself to me. I won't bother quoting the rest of the post because, quite frankly, I find it incomprehensible.

hollowpuma762 said:Look, if I just leaned on my own personal stories to explain these principles, it wouldn't be nearly as objective or helpful for anyone else reading this. Sure, my own experiences are part of the puzzle, but they're just one small piece of a much larger data set.

I'm totally on board with that too, honestly. Truth should probably be able to stand up to a bit of pressure, right? If things aren't working out in your own life, maybe it's a sign that the philosophy itself might be a little off. It doesn't have to be the case, of course, but I suppose it's a pretty decent way to tell if something is actually solid.

Sam Robinson said:Dana Davis5, if you actually happen to be a woman, then please, stop talking down to us. It’s a well-known fact that there's a special circle of hell reserved specifically for those who spend their lives tearing other women down—and honestly, they usually get exactly what they put out into the world.

And honestly? The fact that you’re looking at me and seeing some kind of woman who goes out of her way to make life miserable for others is purely your own perception. It’s just how you’ve interpreted two sentences that clearly stung you for some reason—you might want to sit with that and figure out why—but it has absolutely nothing to do with how I actually treat women. You don't even know me, let alone have any idea what my actual actions toward women look like.😉

Brian Allen18 said:She was brilliant at first, but that’s where he failed—he spun this myth about some monster devouring children... so he just moved on to the next one, some snake charmer. 🤣

His first partner was just too overtly "evil," though if you ask me, she was really just brave and wise. So, he swapped her out for someone sweet and manipulative who ended up totally screwing him over in the end. 😁

Men find it easier to break through because of our evolutionary baggage. I’m not trying to start a debate about religion here, but the reality is that most major faiths place men above women. That outdated programming has been baked into our psyche for millennia, which is why people who consider themselves spiritually advanced still subconsciously default to trusting men more.

I believe women reach enlightenment at the exact same rate as men; we just don't notice it as often. You don't need to be some famous guru to achieve spiritual clarity—in fact, I’d argue the opposite is true. It’s impossible to generalize or make sweeping claims about the true nature of women, especially since everyone is wearing a social mask these days anyway. As for history? It’s written by the winners, so we shouldn't expect much truth from those records regardless.

We should start looking at things through a lens of equality instead of nitpicking whether Buddha actually said something specific thousands of years ago.

Dana Davis5 said:And honestly? The fact that you’re looking at me and seeing some kind of woman who goes out of her way to make life miserable for others is purely your own perception. It’s just how you’ve interpreted two sentences that clearly stung you for some reason—you might want to sit with that and figure out why—but it has absolutely nothing to do with how I actually treat women. You don't even know me, let alone have any idea what my actual actions toward women look like.😉

I’ve been reading your posts across various threads now, and frankly, your writing style comes across as incredibly wishy-washy and ambivalent. To put it plainly: you're completely noncommittal. 😉

Historically speaking, women were basically forced to shoulder the brunt of childcare and all those domestic chores. Because of physical differences, the workload was definitely skewed heavily in favor of men. Looking at the big picture, this gave them way more free time, which naturally opened the door for them to dive deeper into specific fields. Or, to put it another way, they had the luxury to obsess over certain subjects, eventually leading to generations of thinkers who made massive intellectual breakthroughs.
That rigid division of labor—and the intense gender identification we still see today where people feel the need to constantly defend or attack one another based on sex—played a huge role too. Back in the day, those "cults" of identity were even more extreme, with access to specialized knowledge being strictly reserved for men.

Sam Robinson said:I’ve been reading your posts across various threads now, and frankly, your writing style comes across as incredibly wishy-washy and ambivalent. To put it plainly: you're completely noncommittal. 😉

Anyway, now that you've officially shared your final verdict on my username and my "work," can we get back to the actual topic, or what?

OT. You know, I’ve always felt like the female ego tends to run a little deeper than the male one—mostly because it feels a bit more cunning, maybe a little more manipulative... actually, I'd go as far as saying it's smarter, though I guess that really just depends on how much self-awareness and focus a woman actually has.
If you want the ultimate proof of that drive for dominance and control, just look at the classic mother-in-law vs. daughter-in-law dynamic.

Kimberly Smith6 said:I’ve been sitting here reflecting on the complexities of human nature, and I can't help but feel that women often lean more toward the material side of life than men do—though, perhaps, that’s just my own limited perception coloring the view. It seems to me there's this deep-seated need for them to find stability through a partner, almost as if an underlying sense of insecurity drives them to seek out a man who can provide that anchor. And then, once that foundation is laid, there is this profound, driving impulse to build up a family and create something lasting together. It’s a complicated dance of needs and motivations, isn't it?
It honestly feels like some people have this almost innate, restless compulsion to conjure up a massive crisis out of thin air when absolutely nothing is wrong! It’s like they possess this peculiar talent for taking a perfectly calm situation and somehow twisting it into a monumental catastrophe, creating drama where none existed just moments before.
And of course, they just have this incredible knack for making everything as unnecessarily complicated as humanly possible, don't they? It’s almost like a talent! They seem to absolutely thrive on conflict—just living for the drama, the arguments, and those endless, heated disputes that never seem to end.

I’m currently typing this up on my mobile device via Tapatalk 2, specifically while wearing my Samsung Galaxy Fit S5670.

Look, SAS, if we're talking about polarities and what omen4k is laying out here (based on this rant),
it sounds like you aren't exactly thrilled with certain parts of yourself—your Jungian shadow, if you will. 🙂

Dana Davis5 said:Anyway, now that you've officially shared your final verdict on my username and my "work," can we get back to the actual topic, or what?

OT. You know, I’ve always felt like the female ego tends to run a little deeper than the male one—mostly because it feels a bit more cunning, maybe a little more manipulative... actually, I'd go as far as saying it's smarter, though I guess that really just depends on how much self-awareness and focus a woman actually has.
If you want the ultimate proof of that drive for dominance and control, just look at the classic mother-in-law vs. daughter-in-law dynamic.

I’m with you on this... 👍 I’d just swap out 'meaner' for more insidious...
When you look at the male ego, it’s transparent—way too easy to spot, even when they try to hide it behind all sorts of pretenses.
But, if we’re talking about self-awareness and sheer willpower, a high-functioning female ego is going to be way more dominant and powerful than a man's; so yeah, I’d definitely say women have a stronger spirit than us guys do..

And why is it that most spiritual leaders, gurus, and philosophers end up being men?
- Maybe it’s because the male ego is so "cheap"—whereas women don't need external validation to know they are superior—at least in this specific context..

Metaphorically speaking: The ultimate flex of the female ego is that it managed to convince men that it's actually weaker than ours..

🙂

jadetiger37 said:I’m with you on this... 👍 I’d just swap out 'meaner' for more insidious...
When you look at the male ego, it’s transparent—way too easy to spot, even when they try to hide it behind all sorts of pretenses.
But, if we’re talking about self-awareness and sheer willpower, a high-functioning female ego is going to be way more dominant and powerful than a man's; so yeah, I’d definitely say women have a stronger spirit than us guys do..

And why is it that most spiritual leaders, gurus, and philosophers end up being men?
- Maybe it’s because the male ego is so "cheap"—whereas women don't need external validation to know they are superior—at least in this specific context..

Metaphorically speaking: The ultimate flex of the female ego is that it managed to convince men that it's actually weaker than ours..

🙂

This honestly reminds me of something else entirely... 😈
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Brian Allen18 said:This honestly reminds me of something else entirely... 😈
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Yeah, that was exactly the point of the metaphor..
Only thing is, 😈 I gave it a positive spin for this topic—just so nobody accidentally takes offense or anything.. 😉