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Are seminar prices getting out of hand?

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Dana Davis5 Dana Davis5 Active Member
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#41 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:Such comparisons are utterly impossible.

Honestly, people can be such impossible creatures.
If they don't pay for something, they won't even realize its value—or worse, they’ll just dismiss it entirely (though I guess there are always those rare exceptions out there)... but then, once they finally *do* shell out the cash, suddenly it’s "not good enough" or they claim they could have lived without it anyway, or that they could have figured it out themselves. But if they were so capable, why didn't they just do it right from the start? It's funny how that works. 😁

And when you're dealing with health issues, let's be real—no one outside of your own body can actually heal you.
We can certainly stumble upon the right therapy, a specific medication, some herbal remedy, or maybe a new exercise routine that helps guide us back toward wellness, but that internal "click"—that mental shift—has to happen within ourselves. Nobody else can pull that trigger for us. That's why these kinds of seminars are honestly pretty useless... though, sadly, most people don't realize that until they've already wasted their money on at least one of them.
darkgardener49 darkgardener49 Newcomer
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#42 ·
There are some serious School Mystery programs out there with really symbolic monthly fees, but the real issue is that most people are just looking for some kind of New Age instant enlightenment.
Well, it doesn't work like that—it’s not a lottery.

First, you have to skip over one level, and then we can move on to the next...
Harold Reyes6 Harold Reyes6 Newcomer
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#43 ·
Look, Anita Moorjani isn't out there peddling some kind of "instant cure" or pushing empty, snake-oil nonsense just to line her pockets. It’s more about her simply sharing what she went through—her own subjective experience. You can find plenty of her seminars and videos over on YouTube. There are even versions translated into English by folks who did it purely out of the goodness of their hearts, without asking for a dime. How her story lands on any given person is entirely up to them; whether someone finds a deep, personal message in it or not is a completely subjective matter. But, if we approach this stuff looking for charlatans trying to get rich, then that's exactly what it'll be to us—we'll miss the point entirely. We'll end up blocking the actual message she's trying to convey because we've already decided to be defensive.
Scott Miller4 Scott Miller4 Active Member
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#44 ·
Harold Reyes6, did you end up going to the seminar?

To be honest, the price tag feels a bit steep to me. I mean, if it’s just a matter of someone sharing their subjective experience, they could have easily done that for free... just filmed it and uploaded it to YouTube. 🤷
If you were there, though, I’d love to hear what you thought of it. 🙂 I guess everyone has an opinion on these things... but at the end of the day, maybe the most reliable thing is just one person's actual experience being there. 🙂
Larry Moore83 Larry Moore83 Active Member
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#45 ·
Scott Miller4 said:Harold Reyes6, did you end up going to the seminar?

To be honest, the price tag feels a bit steep to me. I mean, if it’s just a matter of someone sharing their subjective experience, they could have easily done that for free... just filmed it and uploaded it to YouTube. 🤷
If you were there, though, I’d love to hear what you thought of it. 🙂 I guess everyone has an opinion on these things... but at the end of the day, maybe the most reliable thing is just one person's actual experience being there. 🙂

And tell me, does that kind of money even get you a certificate? Or some sort of official title or credential?
😁
Scott Miller4 Scott Miller4 Active Member
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#46 ·
Larry Moore83 said:And tell me, does that kind of money even get you a certificate? Or some sort of official title or credential?
😁

I honestly don't know. I'm guessing you don't get anything out of it, especially since Harold Reyes6 mentioned it's really just about sharing subjective experiences.
Larry Moore83 Larry Moore83 Active Member
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#47 ·
Scott Miller4 said:I honestly don't know. I'm guessing you don't get anything out of it, especially since Harold Reyes6 mentioned it's really just about sharing subjective experiences.

So, basically just more "mom talk"...🙂
Harold Reyes6 Harold Reyes6 Newcomer
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#48 ·
Scott Miller4 said:Harold Reyes6, did you end up going to the seminar?

To be honest, the price tag feels a bit steep to me. I mean, if it’s just a matter of someone sharing their subjective experience, they could have easily done that for free... just filmed it and uploaded it to YouTube. 🤷
If you were there, though, I’d love to hear what you thought of it. 🙂 I guess everyone has an opinion on these things... but at the end of the day, maybe the most reliable thing is just one person's actual experience being there. 🙂

I didn't go—there's plenty of material to watch on YouTube instead. For me, the cost is also quite high, especially since the seminar itself didn't really grab my attention in the first place. That said, I wouldn't say money is her primary motivation for running these things; though, once someone becomes a public figure, that part comes into play too—the entire project and the support package behind it. But the real question is how much those experiences can actually help us if we haven't lived through them ourselves. Every single day, we have access to various stories, insights, and spiritual guidance
How much of that truly resonates with us... well, that's entirely up to us.
Scott Miller4 Scott Miller4 Active Member
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#49 ·
Harold Reyes6 said:I didn't go—there's plenty of material to watch on YouTube instead. For me, the cost is also quite high, especially since the seminar itself didn't really grab my attention in the first place. That said, I wouldn't say money is her primary motivation for running these things; though, once someone becomes a public figure, that part comes into play too—the entire project and the support package behind it. But the real question is how much those experiences can actually help us if we haven't lived through them ourselves. Every single day, we have access to various stories, insights, and spiritual guidance
How much of that truly resonates with us... well, that's entirely up to us.


If she isn't teaching a specific, actionable technique that people can actually use after the seminar is over, then paying that much just to hear someone recount their own story—which is already available on YouTube—seems pretty excessive.
Just my two cents.
Harold Reyes6 Harold Reyes6 Newcomer
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#50 ·
Scott Miller4 said:If she isn't teaching a specific, actionable technique that people can actually use after the seminar is over, then paying that much just to hear someone recount their own story—which is already available on YouTube—seems pretty excessive.
Just my two cents.

I think there might have been some workshops or something, though personally, those kinds of seminars, techniques, or even two-day intensives don't really do it for me—even if they were free. I mean, unless you hit on some profound, life-altering realization during the session, everything else just ends up being that lovely, fleeting little glow that fades by Monday morning. Truth be told, those price tags make me flinch a little too... but I suppose it's all relative. For one person, getting to meet Anita Moorjani might be worth every penny; for someone else, it’s a total waste of cash; and for a third person, it might actually spark a massive life change.
Scott Miller4 Scott Miller4 Active Member
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#51 ·
Harold Reyes6 said:I think there might have been some workshops or something, though personally, those kinds of seminars, techniques, or even two-day intensives don't really do it for me—even if they were free. I mean, unless you hit on some profound, life-altering realization during the session, everything else just ends up being that lovely, fleeting little glow that fades by Monday morning. Truth be told, those price tags make me flinch a little too... but I suppose it's all relative. For one person, getting to meet Anita Moorjani might be worth every penny; for someone else, it’s a total waste of cash; and for a third person, it might actually spark a massive life change.

Anita Moorjani was being mentioned in a Ho ` group, and at first, I thought she was a lecturer, which caught my interest. I was pretty busy at the time, so I couldn't really follow everything... then I found out the price of the seminar and realized it wasn't actually connected to ho ` , so I felt a little let down, I guess.

Yeah, I think I mentioned that in an earlier comment—personal experience is everything. 🙂
Dana Davis5 Dana Davis5 Active Member
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#52 ·
Honestly, regarding Anita Moorjani—if you just take a second to look around, you'll realize there are so many people who have pulled themselves back from serious or even terminal illnesses. I actually know a few of them personally, and I've heard their stories firsthand—including the specific healing methods they used to get better. And man, if you start looking for testimonials online, whether it's on various forums or in those specific Facebook groups, you'll find them everywhere. Seriously, if you're looking for those kinds of stories, you could stumble upon them literally while you're out grabbing a loaf of bread at the local grocery store. 😁

Nick Vujičić makes some incredibly inspiring videos, and the best part is they're totally free. 😉
Harold Reyes6 Harold Reyes6 Newcomer
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#53 ·
Dana Davis5 said:Honestly, regarding Anita Moorjani—if you just take a second to look around, you'll realize there are so many people who have pulled themselves back from serious or even terminal illnesses. I actually know a few of them personally, and I've heard their stories firsthand—including the specific healing methods they used to get better. And man, if you start looking for testimonials online, whether it's on various forums or in those specific Facebook groups, you'll find them everywhere. Seriously, if you're looking for those kinds of stories, you could stumble upon them literally while you're out grabbing a loaf of bread at the local grocery store. 😁

Nick Vujičić makes some incredibly inspiring videos, and the best part is they're totally free. 😉

I think you're right—these kinds of stories are scattered all over the place. It's just that Anita Moorjani and Nick Vujičić made a conscious decision to share their experiences with the world; that doesn't inherently make their journeys more "valuable" or more motivating than anyone else's. Nick does seminars and makes his living as a motivational speaker—he's also a Christian preacher, in a sense, an evangelist of sorts, since he draws all his strength from his faith and the Bible. Then there's Anita, who runs workshops, hosts seminars, and wrote a book—everyone has their own way of doing things. At the end of the day, which story resonates most with a person is entirely subjective.
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#54 ·
Anita Moorjani decided she’d rather stack her own cash than share what she has with others.
Jason Howard9 Jason Howard9 Member
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#55 ·
I truly don't understand how you can take your own struggles, illnesses, and disabilities and turn them into seminars...
analogeagle40 analogeagle40 Newcomer
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#56 ·
I get a bit frustrated seeing the price tags on these seminars myself. Honestly, I don't think people can afford to work for free in today's economy—not because of the culture we live in, but just because of how things are structured. In America, you don't see people living in caves or practicing total self-denial; people expect to be compensated.
On the flip side, some of these prices feel downright greedy and inconsiderate. Sure, there should be a fee for a lecture or course to cover venue costs and ensure the instructor breaks even, but these astronomical numbers aren't sustainable.
There’s also this other factor: when a specific technique actually works for you, money becomes secondary. You shouldn't have to worry about the cost. While we should respect the effort put in by the teacher, in spiritual circles, genuine acceptance and gratitude should essentially be "built into the price."

I’ve met plenty of people offering various initiations for massive sums of money—mostly variations of distorted, questionable Indian techniques like Atma Kriya Yoga—without me ever receiving any actual spiritual or energetic feedback from them. In fact, they came across as completely untrustworthy and purely driven by material gain.

It’s happened to me several times where I was looking for retreats, only to find prices that were way beyond what I made in a month of working a soul-crushing job. It’s a sad reality because I know there are true seekers out there who want to learn and seek guidance, but these outrageous prices rob them of the chance to have a transformative experience.

Of course, it isn't all bad news. I recently finished a wonderful course that I found incredibly helpful. I learned a lot and had a great time, and the cost was only $17 a month. Maybe there’s still hope for our society after all. 🙂
Jerry Lee15 Jerry Lee15 Newcomer
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#57 ·
Karen Adams2 said:I really loathe starting new threads, I truly do, but this has been weighing on my mind so heavily lately... and I just haven't been able to find a single existing discussion where this would actually fit properly...
We’re talking about Anita Moorjani, a woman who was battling end-stage lymphoma when she unexpectedly slipped into a coma... and it was during that profound state of unconsciousness that she underwent an incredible near-death experience... which completely changed everything...
Here is the link, just in case anyone wants to take a look...

I’ve been sitting here staring at this video, trying to wrap my head around everything being said, and I honestly feel like my brain is vibrating... It’s one of those pieces of content that just hits you right in the gut, isn't it? You start watching thinking it's just going to be another deep dive into spiritual healing or some niche metaphysical concept, but then it evolves into something much more profound about the very nature of our reality and how we perceive suffering... There is such a heavy, beautiful weight to the way they discuss the intersection of consciousness and physical manifestation. It reminds me so much of what Anita Moorjani talks about regarding the shift in perception required to move through intense trauma. It’s not just about "thinking positive"—it’s about a fundamental restructuring of how we relate to the world around us... if we can truly grasp that, everything changes. I was scrolling through some of the comments earlier, and I saw a few thoughts from Karen Adams2 and Michael Gonzalez77 that really resonated with the themes presented here. They were touching on that idea of collective resonance, which is something I think we often overlook in our individual pursuits of wellness. We tend to focus so much on our own little bubbles, forgetting that we are part of this massive, interconnected web of energy that spans the entire country... It makes me wonder if we are all collectively standing on the precipice of a massive paradigm shift. If we actually applied these principles—this level of radical awareness—to our daily lives in America, the social fabric might look entirely different... though I suppose that’s a bit idealistic, isn't it? Still, it’s worth pondering...

Apparently, after all that, she finally had this massive epiphany about the true meaning of life—you know, all that stuff about universal love and finding your purpose... and since then, she’s gone on to publish several books and travels all over the States hosting workshops that are supposed to help people find their way...
So, looking ahead to March, they’ll be heading our way, and the cost to attend those two days is exactly $275—not a penny more, and certainly not a penny less...😲
Those who had the sheer misfortune of landing in an oncology ward have been granted a special concession, meaning their cost is reduced to just about $160...
[Applause]

I mean, good grief...?
For some people, that amount represents almost their entire paycheck...
It seems to me that survivors of sexual assault, as well as those who have successfully fought their way through alcoholism or addiction, often feel this deep-seated compulsion to reach back and pull others up behind them... They want to share everything they've learned from their own struggles to help others heal, yet more often than not, they end up doing this work entirely for free...
In this particular instance, I don't necessarily believe it should be offered for free, but the gap between a zero-dollar price tag and a $250 charge is quite literally a massive leap...
It’s honestly so ugly and heartbreaking all at once that this entire situation just feels completely hollow to me...
I honestly feel like that money should be used to just silence the doctors, if only to stop them from continuing to validate her whole miraculous healing narrative...
I honestly just cannot wrap my head around this level of sheer greed... and please, don't take this personally, I truly mean no offense by it—but for me, there simply isn't any other way to describe it...
It is truly heartbreaking to think about how much these poor souls battling cancer have to endure, yet they’re only being charged a mere $160...
And what about those who don't even have access to that? Do they simply have no right to hear this story...?

It’s exactly that kind of mindset that pushes me away from the whole thing... I’m certainly not suggesting that everything comes without a cost, nor am I implying that someone should just ride around on a donkey and live off the charity of others...
That’s one extreme right there... and then you have this other side of the spectrum.
Is it just me, or does this entire situation feel incredibly off-putting?
I would truly love to hear what everyone else thinks about this...

We actually discussed this woman on the religion subforum (Thread: What happens after death), and please, don't fall for these kinds of seminars or people.

I believe her healing might have been real, but the way she uses that experience isn't right, in my opinion.
She hasn't drastically changed lives; she's just selling classic New Age philosophy.
And she's misleading people.

You made a good point, and definitely don't let these types get to you. I can't believe she's even holding seminars here in America. 🤦

Since you're struggling, maybe reach out to a priest... or if you're an atheist, pick up the Bible—the New Testament—anyway. Turn to Jesus and you'll see a massive change.👍
Lawrence Torres56 Lawrence Torres56 Active Member
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#58 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:Anita Moorjani decided she’d rather stack her own cash than share what she has with others.

I mean, you aren't exactly hitting the nail on the head there, are you? That woman isn't being greedy; she’s just following the old rule about not throwing pearls before swine... because let’s be real, most people act like swine, especially when they think they can get something for nothing. We don't actually value what's handed to us for free, do we? Instead, we just obsess over hunting down the next freebie... and if it doesn't serve some other purpose, people will literally mock the whole thing just to feed their own massive egos...
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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#59 ·
They say the things that actually matter—the stuff that’s fundamentally true—are always free, just like the air we breathe, the sunlight hitting the pavement, the wind, the rain... it's all part of our basic existence... but people? People get lazy. They're too comfortable. It's much easier to just point the finger at someone else rather than doing the actual heavy lifting themselves, so they end up throwing money at these instant, half-baked "solutions" instead of putting in the work, and then everyone who can afford it just falls right into the same trap...
The laws of supply and demand apply to everything, even the spiritual side of life, and obviously, these gurus need to make a living too—paying rent, organizing their seminars, hiring staff, all that jazz—but let’s be real: those who extortionately charge for their services, especially when they go as far as guaranteeing that they will magically fix your problems, are nothing more than total frauds.

By the way, there’s a mountain of literature out there on almost any topic that’s significantly cheaper, though it does require the reader to actually engage and put in some effort, whereas these workshops are usually designed for the impatient, the broke, or the folks who aren't particularly invested in the process, so if that's your speed, be my guest. 🤷
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
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#60 ·
Lawrence Torres56 said:I mean, you aren't exactly hitting the nail on the head there, are you? That woman isn't being greedy; she’s just following the old rule about not throwing pearls before swine... because let’s be real, most people act like swine, especially when they think they can get something for nothing. We don't actually value what's handed to us for free, do we? Instead, we just obsess over hunting down the next freebie... and if it doesn't serve some other purpose, people will literally mock the whole thing just to feed their own massive egos...

I am absolutely right.😁

Look, I have no problem with someone charging for a seminar, a session of Reiki, a spread of Tarot, or whatever else they offer. My issue lies with the blatant hypocrisy of those who do the charging.

They preach spirituality, selflessness, and divine gifts, yet they act as if the only thing that matters is getting paid for them. One has to ask: who is actually the bigger egoist in this scenario?

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