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Are seminar prices getting out of hand?
Are seminar prices getting out of hand?
Started by Karen Adams2 · · 👁 6 views · 74 replies
#62 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:I am absolutely right.😁
Look, I have no problem with someone charging for a seminar, a session of Reiki, a spread of Tarot, or whatever else they offer. My issue lies with the blatant hypocrisy of those who do the charging.
They preach spirituality, selflessness, and divine gifts, yet they act as if the only thing that matters is getting paid for them. One has to ask: who is actually the bigger egoist in this scenario?
If we look at it through that lens, aren't we actually being the selfish ones here instead of her?😁
The woman is constantly reminding us how much chaos we create when we ignore the Golden Rule; by doing that, we’re basically just inviting trouble into our own lives and hurting the people we care about most...
And honestly, even if I completely ignore the cost of travel, hotels, renting venues... or the price of her seminars (to be totally blunt)... I don't see it as some kind of cash grab. To me, it's more like an investment—that first crucial step toward actually doing something meaningful for ourselves. Money is just a scrap of paper that we collectively decided was valuable, right? If anyone thinks that paper is worth more than their own soul, then they are in seriously deep trouble...
On top of that, there's a massive amount of her material available online... so if someone really wants to listen to what she has to say, they can damn well do it for free. There’s really no basis for these arguments about overpriced sales tactics or selfishness... You seriously can't compare her to the endless parade of fake "spiritual gurus" out there today, because what this woman is doing is pure, unadulterated altruism.
#63 ·
Jason Howard9 said:At any reasonable price point, nobody would bother showing up.
What on earth do you mean by that? 😕
Look, let's not all pretend we’re living on nothing, acting like we aren't wealthy enough to actually pay for things... because that's just not how reality works. 😁
Life experience has taught me one thing, really... I only go where things are free or where I feel like making a donation based on my own gut feeling... anything else just feels like being robbed, plain and simple. ☕
#64 ·
rustymaker5 said:What on earth do you mean by that? 😕
Look, let's not all pretend we’re living on nothing, acting like we aren't wealthy enough to actually pay for things... because that's just not how reality works. 😁
Life experience has taught me one thing, really... I only go where things are free or where I feel like making a donation based on my own gut feeling... anything else just feels like being robbed, plain and simple. ☕
If that were the case, why are these seminars even attended? A price tag establishes symbolic value—especially in places where the actual quality being offered is far lower than what is being advertised.
#65 ·
Jason Howard9 said:If that were the case, why are these seminars even attended? A price tag establishes symbolic value—especially in places where the actual quality being offered is far lower than what is being advertised.
It’s simple, really. People are just starving for something spiritual...
#66 ·
Jason Howard9 said:If that were the case, why are these seminars even attended? A price tag establishes symbolic value—especially in places where the actual quality being offered is far lower than what is being advertised.
It’s honestly just a sad state of affairs, though I suppose you aren't wrong... people flock to these types of sessions because it's just... well, it's what happens, and unfortunately, you have people who are starving for some kind of spiritual connection (as NDagica puts it), and those folks really do need a helping hand, at least when they're first starting out...😢
#67 ·
wearyowl29 said:It’s simple, really. People are just starving for something spiritual...
No, it’s simply that once you pay the fee, everything becomes "in"☕...otherwise, you can just meditate at home or attend Mass at a local church.
#68 ·
rustymaker5 said:It’s honestly just a sad state of affairs, though I suppose you aren't wrong... people flock to these types of sessions because it's just... well, it's what happens, and unfortunately, you have people who are starving for some kind of spiritual connection (as NDagica puts it), and those folks really do need a helping hand, at least when they're first starting out...😢
The thing is, those who are "hungry" approach this differently than those who can actually afford these seminars. While there's nothing wrong with paying for instruction, those individuals typically only attend highly reputable, established programs.
#69 ·
It’s a basic marketing truth: a higher price tag—especially once you've actually shelled out the cash—creates this psychological sense of value and loyalty. It’s just the old "sunk cost" loop where more investment leads to deeper attachment, forcing us to rationalize the expense just to feel better about it.
#70 ·
Jerry Lee15 said:We actually discussed this woman on the religion subforum (Thread: What happens after death), and please, don't fall for these kinds of seminars or people.
I believe her healing might have been real, but the way she uses that experience isn't right, in my opinion.
She hasn't drastically changed lives; she's just selling classic New Age philosophy.
And she's misleading people.
You made a good point, and definitely don't let these types get to you. I can't believe she's even holding seminars here in America. 🤦
Since you're struggling, maybe reach out to a priest... or if you're an atheist, pick up the Bible—the New Testament—anyway. Turn to Jesus and you'll see a massive change.👍
Mia, my issue is with the exorbitant cost of these seminars, not whether someone is wading into Christian waters or your "dangerous" New Age territory... I'd suggest actually reading her book rather than judging solely on whether she's Christian or not... that's why I'm weighing in... Sorry.
Thanks for warning us that listening to a philosophy centered on love and gratitude—especially when presented by a non-Christian—is somehow bad or dangerous... personally, I don't think we can ever have enough of that, but hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...
#71 ·
Jason Howard9 said:No, it’s simply that once you pay the fee, everything becomes "in"☕...otherwise, you can just meditate at home or attend Mass at a local church.
Not quite!
There is a massive difference between doing something while caught up in a collective wave of energy versus just tackling it all on your own.👍
#72 ·
Jason Howard9 said:The thing is, those who are "hungry" approach this differently than those who can actually afford these seminars. While there's nothing wrong with paying for instruction, those individuals typically only attend highly reputable, established programs.
Even a free lunch comes with a catch somewhere.
Freebies are a resource that dries up fast when people stop showing respect.
#73 ·
wearyowl29 said:Not quite!
There is a massive difference between doing something while caught up in a collective wave of energy versus just tackling it all on your own.👍
Exactly! Run from the crowd.
#74 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:I am absolutely right.😁
Look, I have no problem with someone charging for a seminar, a session of Reiki, a spread of Tarot, or whatever else they offer. My issue lies with the blatant hypocrisy of those who do the charging.
They preach spirituality, selflessness, and divine gifts, yet they act as if the only thing that matters is getting paid for them. One has to ask: who is actually the bigger egoist in this scenario?
I'm right there with you on this one.
Honestly, I really don't care what someone charges for their workshops, but if that same person sets sky-high prices and locks out anyone who is truly "spiritually hungry," then calling them a hypocrite is the least I can do. To me, that's just a businessperson masquerading as a spiritual guide—kind of like how some high-ranking bishops or cardinals sit on mountains of gold while preaching poverty.
Don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against people running businesses. Some entrepreneurs are incredibly talented—honestly, they can be way more successful in their niche than any "spiritual leader" could ever hope to be.
At the end of the day, it's all about choice. If someone wants to pay those prices, go for it.
#75 ·
But why jump straight to such extremes?
The gap between zero dollars and $250 is exactly $250.
No one is suggesting this should be free of charge, but there is a massive difference between charging a fee and simply bleeding people dry. It particularly stung me to see that those battling tumors are being offered a discount of only $50.
Does that mean everyone else fighting the same battle—people for whom this might truly be a lifeline—doesn't deserve to hear it?
That is precisely what has set me off, and I find myself questioning how much truth there actually is to this entire situation...
Personally, I have endured several traumatic experiences myself, and if I knew my own story could provide some semblance of comfort to another person, I would share it in a heartbeat without a second thought.
Former addicts or survivors of assault often share their journeys specifically to lend strength to others, and I find that completely understandable.
Now, if you choose to make a career out of that, of course you’re going to look for ways to monetize it, but what we are seeing here feels like pure exploitation.
We are talking about a choice between something provided for free on one hand, and someone's entire monthly salary spent on just a few hours of rambling on the other.
The gap between zero dollars and $250 is exactly $250.
No one is suggesting this should be free of charge, but there is a massive difference between charging a fee and simply bleeding people dry. It particularly stung me to see that those battling tumors are being offered a discount of only $50.
Does that mean everyone else fighting the same battle—people for whom this might truly be a lifeline—doesn't deserve to hear it?
That is precisely what has set me off, and I find myself questioning how much truth there actually is to this entire situation...
Personally, I have endured several traumatic experiences myself, and if I knew my own story could provide some semblance of comfort to another person, I would share it in a heartbeat without a second thought.
Former addicts or survivors of assault often share their journeys specifically to lend strength to others, and I find that completely understandable.
Now, if you choose to make a career out of that, of course you’re going to look for ways to monetize it, but what we are seeing here feels like pure exploitation.
We are talking about a choice between something provided for free on one hand, and someone's entire monthly salary spent on just a few hours of rambling on the other.
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