Atheists are just angry at God

I’ll get straight to the point—and I’m not trying to turn this into a religious debate... but I’ve reached a stage where my perspective shifts by the minute. One moment I’m an atheist, the next I’m a theist.

I've realized that when I lean toward atheism, it's actually fueled by frustration. It's this underlying anger that God doesn't exist because then there's no cosmic justice to satisfy what I feel is right—you know, the whole "why is there suffering?" or "why does this happen?" thing. Since I'm doing fine personally, I assume everyone else must be too, and if they aren't, then God just can't exist. But honestly? That feels like pure ego and narcissism. We always tend to view everything through our own lens whenever we feel wronged...

Besides... what’s actually wrong with following the path of Jesus or anyone else who lived by those principles? There’s nothing wrong with "treating others how you want to be treated" or "forgiving those who hurt you."

Yet, you see the leftists and atheists constantly preaching about "logic, reason, and tolerance"... while in reality, they are the ones rejecting things like Jesus, consciousness, and basic ethics—whatever label you want to slap on it.

So, to wrap this up... I think many atheists are essentially just narcissists. They preach ethics, yet because they can't seem to move past their own egos, they struggle to truly help anyone else—no matter how much they claim to care.

Look, people... don't go thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Best, 😍

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Oh, sure, atheists always lean on "reason" as their big shield, right? Maybe it’s because they actually have some! Honestly, if anyone out there wants to step up and lay out some actual, solid evidence for creationism or theism, I am all ears...
Look, I don't deny Jesus exists, but religion as this massive, organized system of manipulation? Yeah, I'm calling foul on that nonsense. Atheists aren't somehow lacking a moral compass; they just refuse to follow the specific brand of ethics dictated by your wonderful God—the same one people kill millions of innocents in the name of! Seriously, that whole vibe belongs in the Dark Ages, for crying out loud.

And what you said about being able to flip your perspective in a heartbeat? Man, that is such a refreshing quality to have! ☕

There isn't even any anger or a sense of justice involved here, it's just that the whole concept itself is so utterly absurd.

Look, I’m not trying to be rude here, but thinking you can judge the entire universe based on your own little perspective is... well, it's kind of foolish. You aren't the yardstick for reality.

Let me try to lay it out for you this way. There is this one massive Space. In this vastness, there are billions upon billions of galaxies and an unimaginable amount of empty void. Within every single one of those galaxies, you've got billions of stars—and then even more incomprehensible stretches of nothingness between them. Every solar system has a star or two, maybe some planets, and just endless, terrifying amounts of space in between.

Now, on just one of those tiny planets, tucked away in one solar system, inside one minuscule galaxy—on a planet that’s been around for about 4.5 billion years—Homo sapiens have been hanging around for maybe 2 million years. And if we're talking about actual recorded history? That's barely 5,000 years.

Our ethics, our morals, love, humanity itself... it’s such a microscopic sliver of this planet that honestly, it feels almost silly to even discuss it in context. Let alone discussing it in the context of the infinite expanse of Space. If God actually exists, He is something so utterly incomprehensible and alien to us that it’s basically impossible to wrap our heads around.

I just wanted to point out how incredibly brief our existence is, and how we occupy this infinitesimally small speck within Space. It’s hard to ignore just how tiny, insignificant, and fleeting we really are in the grand scheme of the Universe.

casualgardener17 said:I’ll get straight to the point—and I’m not trying to turn this into a religious debate... but I’ve reached a stage where my perspective shifts by the minute. One moment I’m an atheist, the next I’m a theist.

I've realized that when I lean toward atheism, it's actually fueled by frustration. It's this underlying anger that God doesn't exist because then there's no cosmic justice to satisfy what I feel is right—you know, the whole "why is there suffering?" or "why does this happen?" thing. Since I'm doing fine personally, I assume everyone else must be too, and if they aren't, then God just can't exist. But honestly? That feels like pure ego and narcissism. We always tend to view everything through our own lens whenever we feel wronged...

Besides... what’s actually wrong with following the path of Jesus or anyone else who lived by those principles? There’s nothing wrong with "treating others how you want to be treated" or "forgiving those who hurt you."

Yet, you see the leftists and atheists constantly preaching about "logic, reason, and tolerance"... while in reality, they are the ones rejecting things like Jesus, consciousness, and basic ethics—whatever label you want to slap on it.

So, to wrap this up... I think many atheists are essentially just narcissists. They preach ethics, yet because they can't seem to move past their own egos, they struggle to truly help anyone else—no matter how much they claim to care.

Look, people... don't go thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Best, 😍

Look, an atheist has one incredibly simple, short definition. Trying to push some grand ideology onto people falls way outside those bounds—it moves into an entirely different territory altogether.

An atheist doesn't have to be moral or immoral—it's not their job to do anything other than fit the definition. And don't take my use of the word "duty" too literally; it’s more about meeting certain criteria, just like it is for a believer.

Honestly, your frustration with how things are is just your ego talking. Why on earth do you think you deserve to be constantly surrounded by perfection? That wouldn't even be the natural state of things—it's just a conflict with someone else's perception, which makes that "Golden Rule" you keep bringing up pretty irrelevant here.

But we can also take a look at the moral side of things here. Why do you think God would allow people to kill Jesus, His own Son?
I mean, what kind of God just stands by while people murder a part of Himself?

It’s honestly pretty sad that you don't seem to grasp the actual teachings of the Bible—I’m starting to wonder if you’ve even cracked one open. The Key thing here is that God gave us free will. He gave us the choice to be good, to be evil, or maybe a messy mix of both. We aren't robots, and we definitely aren't His slaves. We have the right to make our own decisions.

And specifically, that means I could theoretically go out tomorrow, grab an AK-47, walk into a school, and massacre a bunch of kids. And those parents? They’d be left asking what kind of God allows something like that to happen. But God doesn't "allow" it, per se. He gave us the freedom to choose. That was His gift. What happens after that is entirely on us. We basically get to live in the world we create for ourselves.

I used to think it was a simple binary: you either swallow the dogma whole or you actually use your brain 😲

I just wanted to say: 🤣

Bryan Young said:Look, I’m not trying to be rude here, but thinking you can judge the entire universe based on your own little perspective is... well, it's kind of foolish. You aren't the yardstick for reality.

Let me try to lay it out for you this way. There is this one massive Space. In this vastness, there are billions upon billions of galaxies and an unimaginable amount of empty void. Within every single one of those galaxies, you've got billions of stars—and then even more incomprehensible stretches of nothingness between them. Every solar system has a star or two, maybe some planets, and just endless, terrifying amounts of space in between.

Now, on just one of those tiny planets, tucked away in one solar system, inside one minuscule galaxy—on a planet that’s been around for about 4.5 billion years—Homo sapiens have been hanging around for maybe 2 million years. And if we're talking about actual recorded history? That's barely 5,000 years.

Our ethics, our morals, love, humanity itself... it’s such a microscopic sliver of this planet that honestly, it feels almost silly to even discuss it in context. Let alone discussing it in the context of the infinite expanse of Space. If God actually exists, He is something so utterly incomprehensible and alien to us that it’s basically impossible to wrap our heads around.

I just wanted to point out how incredibly brief our existence is, and how we occupy this infinitesimally small speck within Space. It’s hard to ignore just how tiny, insignificant, and fleeting we really are in the grand scheme of the Universe.

I guess solipsists wouldn't exactly see eye to eye with you on that. Their whole thing is believing that only the individual and their own experience truly exist, which is probably just as plausible as your theory. 😉

As for the title—specifically regarding atheists who are angry at God—I have to disagree. Usually, when someone loses faith in God or some abstract supernatural entity, it happens because they’ve gained enough self-assurance and realized they can actually hold their own against life.

Someone who is genuinely angry at God can't really be called an atheist. That sounds more like just a frustrated theist to me.

wiredangler71 said:I used to think it was a simple binary: you either swallow the dogma whole or you actually use your brain 😲

Me too.

Scott Miller4 said:I guess solipsists wouldn't exactly see eye to eye with you on that. Their whole thing is believing that only the individual and their own experience truly exist, which is probably just as plausible as your theory. 😉

As for the title—specifically regarding atheists who are angry at God—I have to disagree. Usually, when someone loses faith in God or some abstract supernatural entity, it happens because they’ve gained enough self-assurance and realized they can actually hold their own against life.

Someone who is genuinely angry at God can't really be called an atheist. That sounds more like just a frustrated theist to me.

Of course. How does one get angry at something that doesn't even exist? 🤷
That would be a bit bizarre.

casualgardener17 said:I’ll get straight to the point—and I’m not trying to turn this into a religious debate... but I’ve reached a stage where my perspective shifts by the minute. One moment I’m an atheist, the next I’m a theist.

I've realized that when I lean toward atheism, it's actually fueled by frustration. It's this underlying anger that God doesn't exist because then there's no cosmic justice to satisfy what I feel is right—you know, the whole "why is there suffering?" or "why does this happen?" thing. Since I'm doing fine personally, I assume everyone else must be too, and if they aren't, then God just can't exist. But honestly? That feels like pure ego and narcissism. We always tend to view everything through our own lens whenever we feel wronged...

Besides... what’s actually wrong with following the path of Jesus or anyone else who lived by those principles? There’s nothing wrong with "treating others how you want to be treated" or "forgiving those who hurt you."

Yet, you see the leftists and atheists constantly preaching about "logic, reason, and tolerance"... while in reality, they are the ones rejecting things like Jesus, consciousness, and basic ethics—whatever label you want to slap on it.

So, to wrap this up... I think many atheists are essentially just narcissists. They preach ethics, yet because they can't seem to move past their own egos, they struggle to truly help anyone else—no matter how much they claim to care.

Look, people... don't go thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Best, 😍

I believed in God when I was a kid—maybe up until my Bar Mitzvah...😉
After that, I had a brief run-in with Satanism and all that other nonsense just out of curiosity... honestly, I'm glad I had the guts to step outside the box back then...
Eventually, I realized it's all just total nonsense based entirely on our imagination—none of it exists except inside our crazy heads... kind of like most of that "immaterial" stuff surrounding us in this world we've built for ourselves...
A believer generally isn't capable of thinking that way or accepting it, so I think faith makes you pretty narrow-minded. Sure, life feels nicer when you believe in something—you get that feeling like you deserve things because of how you act and that someone is watching over you, providing this cozy, safe feeling...
I've never been one to insult someone harshly, steal from anyone, or cause harm in any way. Actually, I'm always there if someone needs a hand, and I usually look out for others more than myself... I can't stand aggression, I'm a pacifist, and a bit of an anarchist at heart...

To summarize, you're talking nonsense. Everyone has the right to believe whatever they want, but that doesn't give them the right to judge everyone else based on those beliefs...
Honestly, I'm angry at believers. Because of them, two billion people are starving, yet they can't grasp that they're solely responsible for why that happens... all while preaching about life, love, modesty, and equality...
If God actually existed, He wouldn't bother dealing with pests like humans, just like we don't waste too much energy on rats...☕

casualgardener17 said:I’ll get straight to the point—and I’m not trying to turn this into a religious debate... but I’ve reached a stage where my perspective shifts by the minute. One moment I’m an atheist, the next I’m a theist.

I've realized that when I lean toward atheism, it's actually fueled by frustration. It's this underlying anger that God doesn't exist because then there's no cosmic justice to satisfy what I feel is right—you know, the whole "why is there suffering?" or "why does this happen?" thing. Since I'm doing fine personally, I assume everyone else must be too, and if they aren't, then God just can't exist. But honestly? That feels like pure ego and narcissism. We always tend to view everything through our own lens whenever we feel wronged...

Besides... what’s actually wrong with following the path of Jesus or anyone else who lived by those principles? There’s nothing wrong with "treating others how you want to be treated" or "forgiving those who hurt you."

Yet, you see the leftists and atheists constantly preaching about "logic, reason, and tolerance"... while in reality, they are the ones rejecting things like Jesus, consciousness, and basic ethics—whatever label you want to slap on it.

So, to wrap this up... I think many atheists are essentially just narcissists. They preach ethics, yet because they can't seem to move past their own egos, they struggle to truly help anyone else—no matter how much they claim to care.

Look, people... don't go thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Best, 😍

You can live by those principles just fine as an atheist.

Austin Hill6 said:You can live by those principles just fine as an atheist.

I don't need someone else's philosophy to guide me when I have my own. I won't be good out of fear of eternal suffering after death, but because I genuinely feel it's the right way to live.

Scott Miller4 said:I guess solipsists wouldn't exactly see eye to eye with you on that. Their whole thing is believing that only the individual and their own experience truly exist, which is probably just as plausible as your theory. 😉

As for the title—specifically regarding atheists who are angry at God—I have to disagree. Usually, when someone loses faith in God or some abstract supernatural entity, it happens because they’ve gained enough self-assurance and realized they can actually hold their own against life.

Someone who is genuinely angry at God can't really be called an atheist. That sounds more like just a frustrated theist to me.

So, am I just some figment of your imagination, or are you actually living in mine?😁

Scott Miller4 said:I guess solipsists wouldn't exactly see eye to eye with you on that. Their whole thing is believing that only the individual and their own experience truly exist, which is probably just as plausible as your theory. 😉

As for the title—specifically regarding atheists who are angry at God—I have to disagree. Usually, when someone loses faith in God or some abstract supernatural entity, it happens because they’ve gained enough self-assurance and realized they can actually hold their own against life.

Someone who is genuinely angry at God can't really be called an atheist. That sounds more like just a frustrated theist to me.

Or the Sophists and that "Man is the measure of all things" idea. 😉 I’ve always found that more relatable than a strict Socrates approach.

David Wilson52 said:🙄

Oh, sure, atheists always lean on "reason" as their big shield, right? Maybe it’s because they actually have some! Honestly, if anyone out there wants to step up and lay out some actual, solid evidence for creationism or theism, I am all ears...
Look, I don't deny Jesus exists, but religion as this massive, organized system of manipulation? Yeah, I'm calling foul on that nonsense. Atheists aren't somehow lacking a moral compass; they just refuse to follow the specific brand of ethics dictated by your wonderful God—the same one people kill millions of innocents in the name of! Seriously, that whole vibe belongs in the Dark Ages, for crying out loud.

And what you said about being able to flip your perspective in a heartbeat? Man, that is such a refreshing quality to have! ☕

There isn't even any anger or a sense of justice involved here, it's just that the whole concept itself is so utterly absurd.

I’ve had enough of this; I'm stopping right here. 🤣

The sheer nerve is unbelievable. After America spent over a millennium building its foundation on reason through Christian faith, we have these bold individuals spitting on our entire heritage while claiming they only care about logic and science. They try to monopolize both, acting as if everyone else is either dim-witted or unstable, and they're the only ones who are sane and smart. You can only reach such a narrow view of logic and a stripped-down, sanitized version of science to support an atheist worldview. It makes me wonder: do atheists believe this because they're being arrogant, or have they simply not thought deeply enough or read nearly enough books?

mistyseal8 said:I’ve had enough of this; I'm stopping right here. 🤣

The sheer nerve is unbelievable. After America spent over a millennium building its foundation on reason through Christian faith, we have these bold individuals spitting on our entire heritage while claiming they only care about logic and science. They try to monopolize both, acting as if everyone else is either dim-witted or unstable, and they're the only ones who are sane and smart. You can only reach such a narrow view of logic and a stripped-down, sanitized version of science to support an atheist worldview. It makes me wonder: do atheists believe this because they're being arrogant, or have they simply not thought deeply enough or read nearly enough books?

Yeah...
Just talk trash and act like you own the place...
Throwing stones and making noise...
At anyone who doesn't believe or think like them...
Let everything fall apart, as long as we get to keep our old ways... ☕

mistyseal8 said:I’ve had enough of this; I'm stopping right here. 🤣

The sheer nerve is unbelievable. After America spent over a millennium building its foundation on reason through Christian faith, we have these bold individuals spitting on our entire heritage while claiming they only care about logic and science. They try to monopolize both, acting as if everyone else is either dim-witted or unstable, and they're the only ones who are sane and smart. You can only reach such a narrow view of logic and a stripped-down, sanitized version of science to support an atheist worldview. It makes me wonder: do atheists believe this because they're being arrogant, or have they simply not thought deeply enough or read nearly enough books?

Why don't you start by reading the Bible yourself, specifically those parts where God kills newborn babies? That's what you call being rational?

Austin Hill6 said:Why don't you start by reading the Bible yourself, specifically those parts where God kills newborn babies? That's what you call being rational?

And there they are, showing all the classic symptoms: reductionism, a lack of reading, and even when they do pick up a book, they clearly aren't grasping the context.

Why is this thread even discussing God in a Christian sense? Or religion in general? It's entirely possible to be a theist without following a single dogma.☕Sure, you might get disillusioned with the institution and all that, but why does that cause people to abandon the entire concept?

jadecyclist36 said:Why is this thread even discussing God in a Christian sense? Or religion in general? It's entirely possible to be a theist without following a single dogma.☕Sure, you might get disillusioned with the institution and all that, but why does that cause people to abandon the entire concept?

At the end of the day, everyone believes in something.