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feralmoose32 feralmoose32 Regular
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#481 ·
Harold Cook2 said:I’m dying to know when we actually get the word on whether that deferral got the green light or not.
Seriously, I’ve got testing scheduled at school for April 4th, and I’ve already gone through the whole marathon of gathering every single scrap of paper from psychologists, preschools, and speech therapists.

A friend of mine was told they might not hear anything until August...
They basically have to go through every single test and process just like they were enrolling for the first time...
Robert Rodriguez9 Robert Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#482 ·
From what I understand, after all the testing is done, the school's specialist team and the local health clinic work side-by-side to review everything and make decisions for all the kids. It seems a bit odd to me that we might be waiting until August when enrollment starts back in early June. 🤔
feralmoose32 feralmoose32 Regular
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#483 ·
And that’s what she was told—she even went on about how all this uncertainty is going to completely wreck her summer plans... 😁
Olivia Brown7 Olivia Brown7 Member
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#484 ·
Robert Rodriguez9 said:From what I understand, after all the testing is done, the school's specialist team and the local health clinic work side-by-side to review everything and make decisions for all the kids. It seems a bit odd to me that we might be waiting until August when enrollment starts back in early June. 🤔

The child goes through the standard enrollment process first, and only then is the request for a school deferment filed. The Department of Education makes the final call. Their deadline for a decision isn't until August 31st. 😵
That was our experience when trying to get an aide assigned for preschool; we were stuck waiting for a decision until mid-September, even though the adaptation period was supposed to start on September 1st.
A colleague of mine actually received the approval for a school deferment after the term had already begun. A total disaster.
Harold Cook2 Harold Cook2 Active Member
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#485 ·
Seriously, they’re out of their minds, keeping people hanging in limbo like this.

So, how did you guys handle it—did you do the testing first and then the doctor's visit, or was it the other way around?
Joshua Ortiz2 Joshua Ortiz2 Member
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joined Jan 2017
#486 ·
It’s not officially enrolled yet, so we’re basically just sitting around waiting on a deferral...
Once the school finishes up the medical check, the testing, and those one-on-one meetings, they’ll finally suggest moving forward with a potential deferment.
You’ve gotta go down to the school and sign everything, and then you should get the official paperwork from the Department of Education, probably by the end of August for sure.

And honestly, that whole situation with the aides was always super sketchy because of the budget cuts...
Robert Rodriguez9 Robert Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#487 ·
We had our checkup and testing at the doctor's office today. By the end, my wife told me everything went great and he passed with flying colors. Then she turned to me and asked what I thought—basically whether I felt he was actually ready to start school or not. Honestly, the kid isn't even close to the cutoff age yet; he's only six and a half. I walked away with this feeling that they ask every parent that same question. 🤷
Joshua Ortiz2 Joshua Ortiz2 Member
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#488 ·
So I'm right in the middle of this one-on-one meeting, just talking shop, when they suddenly hit me with this question about whether I've thought about putting my departure on hold... 😬
Robert Rodriguez9 Robert Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#489 ·
Yeah, there’s a massive difference in how the question itself is framed. 🤣
Joshua Ortiz2 Joshua Ortiz2 Member
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#490 ·
You've gotta watch out for your kids. And honestly, you just have to listen to your gut...
Robert Rodriguez9 Robert Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#491 ·
I was definitely all for moving forward with it.
My doctor did mention that we should probably work on my fine motor skills to see if there's some room for improvement.
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#492 ·
Robert Rodriguez9 said:We had our checkup and testing at the doctor's office today. By the end, my wife told me everything went great and he passed with flying colors. Then she turned to me and asked what I thought—basically whether I felt he was actually ready to start school or not. Honestly, the kid isn't even close to the cutoff age yet; he's only six and a half. I walked away with this feeling that they ask every parent that same question. 🤷

It's just a mess.☕
I honestly don't get what the actual goal is with this whole trend of delaying enrollment.
People say things like, "Oh, they've played enough"... I mean, come on, I’d probably be worried if a six-year-old *wasn't* still playing all day.🤷
The whole "let them enjoy being little for one more year" cliché really rubs me the wrong way. It's almost like people act as if their entire life is over once they step foot into a classroom.
Then you end up with someone who's twenty-something years old still sitting there in the middle of high school.🤦
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#493 ·
You know, looking back now with the perspective of having finished first grade, I can honestly say that delaying school entry is a great move. There is a massive difference in how kids handle things when they start at 7.5 instead of 6.5.
Of course, you’ll find some kids who are totally ready at 6.5—they can manage their own schoolwork and stay on top of everything without much help. On the flip side, there are kids who aren't quite there yet even by age 8.
But based on what I see with my own child and her classmates, as well as my friends' kids, the older ones just seem to navigate school so much better. It isn't nearly as stressful for them.
Sam Kim12 Sam Kim12 Active Member
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#494 ·
rowdypanther12 said:You know, looking back now with the perspective of having finished first grade, I can honestly say that delaying school entry is a great move. There is a massive difference in how kids handle things when they start at 7.5 instead of 6.5.
Of course, you’ll find some kids who are totally ready at 6.5—they can manage their own schoolwork and stay on top of everything without much help. On the flip side, there are kids who aren't quite there yet even by age 8.
But based on what I see with my own child and her classmates, as well as my friends' kids, the older ones just seem to navigate school so much better. It isn't nearly as stressful for them.

👍Exactly this.
Plus, we need to address the elephant in the room: most teachers today are so incredibly burnt out and frustrated that they end up mistreating these kids—expecting them to behave like miniature adults in the classroom. Take my local elementary school teacher, for example: she won't even let them go to the restroom during class time, then assigns these "group projects" where kids are split into teams based on neighborhoods—but since nobody actually knows where everyone lives, the kids are expected to finish the project over the weekend. On top of that, she gives instructions once, refuses to repeat them for the students or the parents, and hides behind the excuse that they're all "responsible enough" to grasp everything after a single explanation.

Furthermore, preschools spend all this time teaching them independence—learning how to use the restroom on their own, grab water, throw away trash, etc.—and then, within the first two weeks of school, the teachers start complaining that the kids are "immature" because they don't know how to raise their hands or ask permission to get up from their seats.

And don't even get me started on concentration levels—half the kids in first grade can't focus for more than a few minutes, yet teachers expect them to soak up information like sponges and act as if sitting through four or five hours of instruction is perfectly reasonable.🙂
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#495 ·
rowdypanther12 said:You know, looking back now with the perspective of having finished first grade, I can honestly say that delaying school entry is a great move. There is a massive difference in how kids handle things when they start at 7.5 instead of 6.5.
Of course, you’ll find some kids who are totally ready at 6.5—they can manage their own schoolwork and stay on top of everything without much help. On the flip side, there are kids who aren't quite there yet even by age 8.
But based on what I see with my own child and her classmates, as well as my friends' kids, the older ones just seem to navigate school so much better. It isn't nearly as stressful for them.

Okay, look, differences exist, obviously; kids mature, and it would be pretty weird if a six-year-old could somehow handle responsibilities better than an eight-year-old. But I don't think that means we should just arbitrarily push the starting age to 8 just because we feel like it.🙂
First grade isn't really this terrifying monster that a typical, healthy 6.5-year-old couldn't eventually adjust to.
I guess, for instance, remembering what supplies to bring for art class isn't exactly rocket science. Every child needs a period to adjust, and maybe for some it takes longer and for others it's quicker, but I don't think we should be asking for delays just so they can "play longer" or because they haven't mastered drawing like Da Vinci yet.🙄
Not in my book.
nimblelynx7 nimblelynx7 Regular
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#496 ·
urbantinker8 said:It's just a mess.☕
I honestly don't get what the actual goal is with this whole trend of delaying enrollment.
People say things like, "Oh, they've played enough"... I mean, come on, I’d probably be worried if a six-year-old *wasn't* still playing all day.🤷
The whole "let them enjoy being little for one more year" cliché really rubs me the wrong way. It's almost like people act as if their entire life is over once they step foot into a classroom.
Then you end up with someone who's twenty-something years old still sitting there in the middle of high school.🤦

Personally, I don't see the point in forcing a kid into school before they turn seven.

I still remember some colleagues who started school before they even hit seven. They were always struggling—academically, behaviorally, even physically, they were just smaller and behind.
When I started college, I had a classmate who was basically a teenager compared to us because he started way too early. Even the registrar's office staff weren't sure if his enrollment was even valid or if they needed to set up special meetings for his parents. 😁

Nobody is going to be stuck in high school in their twenties unless they fail a grade. And even if they're nineteen and still in school, what's the rush? To get a job at the IRS?
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#497 ·
nimblelynx7 said:Personally, I don't see the point in forcing a kid into school before they turn seven.

I still remember some colleagues who started school before they even hit seven. They were always struggling—academically, behaviorally, even physically, they were just smaller and behind.
When I started college, I had a classmate who was basically a teenager compared to us because he started way too early. Even the registrar's office staff weren't sure if his enrollment was even valid or if they needed to set up special meetings for his parents. 😁

Nobody is going to be stuck in high school in their twenties unless they fail a grade. And even if they're nineteen and still in school, what's the rush? To get a job at the IRS?

I also started school with a group of kids who all began before they were seven, and I never really noticed any rule or pattern where those students were worse learners, less conscientious, or more irresponsible. As for physical build... well, that's a whole other factor in the equation, I guess.🙄
I started before I turned seven myself, and I was consistently one of the top two or three students in my class, through elementary, high school, and even during my time at university.🙂
You just can't predict what a person will turn out to be.🕺

And since this trend of delaying enrollment seems to be picking up steam, it probably isn't unrealistic to expect that high school graduates will soon be knocking on the door of their twenties.
Is it actually common in those European countries we constantly hold up as having perfect education systems to delay starting school? I don't think so.
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#498 ·
I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I finally found my rhythm! It feels like everything is just clicking into place lately. I was grabbing a coffee at Starbucks this morning, thinking about how much has changed over the last few months, and I just felt this sudden wave of optimism. It’s those little moments of clarity that really make it all worth it, don't you think? Just feeling steady and ready for whatever comes next. kaže:
We had our checkup and some testing done at the doctor's office today. By the end of the appointment, my wife told me that everything went perfectly and that he did a fantastic job with the whole process. She asked me what I thought about it. I’ve been thinking about whether my little guy is actually ready for school yet, but honestly, he isn't even close to the age limit—he’s only six and a half. I get the feeling that everyone seems to be getting asked this same question lately! 🤷

It looks like some people in this discussion have completely misread the question.
Yeah, she asked us the exact same thing, and honestly, it makes total sense that she would. It’s actually a bit of a shame if she didn't ask—it's such a valid question to have.

That’s a perfectly fair question to ask.
It might be worth asking the parents if their child’s behavior during the session actually matches how they act at home. For instance, you could ask if the kid was more or less focused than usual, or just generally how cooperative they were throughout the process. It really helps to know if what we saw in the testing room is a true reflection of their everyday personality.
It really comes down to how a parent perceives things—and whether they actually see what’s happening at school. I mean, when you're the one looking after your kid every single day, and you know you'll be doing the exact same thing once they start their formal schooling, you develop a certain perspective. You notice the little details that others might miss because you're right there in the thick of it daily.

Just because parents are hit with that question doesn't mean they're going to immediately try to pull their kids out of school. 🤣Honestly, I think that specific bit of dialogue is actually pretty crucial for both the doctor and the parent when it comes to making the right call for the kid. It opens up this vital space for them to talk through what’s actually needed for school—balancing what the parent thinks is best with what the reality on the ground actually looks like.

I'm guessing you said NO just to see what I'd ask next! I’ve been thinking a lot about how much things have changed lately. It feels like we're constantly navigating new updates and shifts, whether it's at work or just in our daily routines. I remember back when I first started my current job, everything felt so much more predictable, but honestly, I think I prefer the pace we're at now—it keeps me on my toes! Does anyone else feel like they're constantly playing catch-up, or is it just me? I'd love to hear how you all are managing the recent changes. It’s such a tough spot to be in when you start noticing those little gaps in your child's development. You see them struggling with something—maybe it's emotional regulation or just basic independence—and you find yourself wondering if they're actually behind. I always think it would be so helpful to have someone, maybe a pediatrician or a trusted teacher, who could step in and give you some perspective. I wish I could just ask an expert, "Hey, is my kid actually lagging, or am I just being overprotective?" It would be amazing to have a professional look at their behavior and tell me, "Actually, most kids this age are right where yours is," or conversely, "Yeah, you're right to feel this way; maybe giving them an extra year to really mature and catch up is the best move." Having that kind of clarity would take so much of the guesswork out of parenting. It’s hard enough trying to figure out what's "normal" without feeling like you're constantly second-guessing your own instincts.

From what I can gather, you said "yes," and she actually agreed with you! She even went as far as giving you some specific exercises to work on fine motor skills. To me, that suggests she’s completely on board with everything else from the exam, except for this one little area that just needs some consistent practice over the next six months.

nimblelynx7 said:Personally, I don't see the point in forcing a kid into school before they turn seven.

I still remember some colleagues who started school before they even hit seven. They were always struggling—academically, behaviorally, even physically, they were just smaller and behind.
When I started college, I had a classmate who was basically a teenager compared to us because he started way too early. Even the registrar's office staff weren't sure if his enrollment was even valid or if they needed to set up special meetings for his parents. 😁

Nobody is going to be stuck in high school in their twenties unless they fail a grade. And even if they're nineteen and still in school, what's the rush? To get a job at the IRS?

I haven't quite caught your drift there! What's on your mind? 🤣
Or maybe join the military? 🤔 🙂

Not to go off-topic here, but high school is actually allowed until you're 21. So, it doesn't really matter if a student is 18, 19, 20, or 21—it's all within the rules. 🥳)
Of course, someone starting school a little later might have fewer chances of repeating a grade and staying on track with their classes, but hey, at least they get some extra playtime before the real work begins! 🤷
urbantinker8 urbantinker8 Regular
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#499 ·
Susan James said:
I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I finally found my rhythm! It feels like everything is just clicking into place lately. I was grabbing a coffee at Starbucks this morning, thinking about how much has changed over the last few months, and I just felt this sudden wave of optimism. It’s those little moments of clarity that really make it all worth it, don't you think? Just feeling steady and ready for whatever comes next. kaže:
We had our checkup and some testing done at the doctor's office today. By the end of the appointment, my wife told me that everything went perfectly and that he did a fantastic job with the whole process. She asked me what I thought about it. I’ve been thinking about whether my little guy is actually ready for school yet, but honestly, he isn't even close to the age limit—he’s only six and a half. I get the feeling that everyone seems to be getting asked this same question lately! 🤷

It looks like some people in this discussion have completely misread the question.
Yeah, she asked us the exact same thing, and honestly, it makes total sense that she would. It’s actually a bit of a shame if she didn't ask—it's such a valid question to have.

That’s a perfectly fair question to ask.
It might be worth asking the parents if their child’s behavior during the session actually matches how they act at home. For instance, you could ask if the kid was more or less focused than usual, or just generally how cooperative they were throughout the process. It really helps to know if what we saw in the testing room is a true reflection of their everyday personality.
It really comes down to how a parent perceives things—and whether they actually see what’s happening at school. I mean, when you're the one looking after your kid every single day, and you know you'll be doing the exact same thing once they start their formal schooling, you develop a certain perspective. You notice the little details that others might miss because you're right there in the thick of it daily.

Just because parents are hit with that question doesn't mean they're going to immediately try to pull their kids out of school. 🤣Honestly, I think that specific bit of dialogue is actually pretty crucial for both the doctor and the parent when it comes to making the right call for the kid. It opens up this vital space for them to talk through what’s actually needed for school—balancing what the parent thinks is best with what the reality on the ground actually looks like.

I'm guessing you said NO just to see what I'd ask next! I’ve been thinking a lot about how much things have changed lately. It feels like we're constantly navigating new updates and shifts, whether it's at work or just in our daily routines. I remember back when I first started my current job, everything felt so much more predictable, but honestly, I think I prefer the pace we're at now—it keeps me on my toes! Does anyone else feel like they're constantly playing catch-up, or is it just me? I'd love to hear how you all are managing the recent changes. It’s such a tough spot to be in when you start noticing those little gaps in your child's development. You see them struggling with something—maybe it's emotional regulation or just basic independence—and you find yourself wondering if they're actually behind. I always think it would be so helpful to have someone, maybe a pediatrician or a trusted teacher, who could step in and give you some perspective. I wish I could just ask an expert, "Hey, is my kid actually lagging, or am I just being overprotective?" It would be amazing to have a professional look at their behavior and tell me, "Actually, most kids this age are right where yours is," or conversely, "Yeah, you're right to feel this way; maybe giving them an extra year to really mature and catch up is the best move." Having that kind of clarity would take so much of the guesswork out of parenting. It’s hard enough trying to figure out what's "normal" without feeling like you're constantly second-guessing your own instincts.

From what I can gather, you said "yes," and she actually agreed with you! She even went as far as giving you some specific exercises to work on fine motor skills. To me, that suggests she’s completely on board with everything else from the exam, except for this one little area that just needs some consistent practice over the next six months.

I haven't quite caught your drift there! What's on your mind? 🤣
Or maybe join the military? 🤔 🙂

Not to go off-topic here, but high school is actually allowed until you're 21. So, it doesn't really matter if a student is 18, 19, 20, or 21—it's all within the rules. 🥳)
Of course, someone starting school a little later might have fewer chances of repeating a grade and staying on track with their classes, but hey, at least they get some extra playtime before the real work begins! 🤷

...because once they hit first grade, the playtime pretty much stops forever.🙄

Good grief, everything is just... something.

I suspect that, more often than not, the underlying motive isn't really about giving kids more "playtime," but rather parental convenience, since I suppose it’s just easier to manage daycare schedules than it is to deal with elementary schoolers.😳
But I doubt anyone would actually admit that; it’s much easier to blame a kid's messy drawings or their tendency to get distracted.
From what I’m seeing in real life, there seems to be this growing sense of genuine panic and hysteria surrounding the start of school. It feels like people are trying every possible way to justify delaying enrollment by a year, even when those kids turned six months ago, or maybe even four or five months ago.
It all seems totally senseless to me. I have this nagging feeling that things won't feel any less overwhelming a year from now, and honestly, it might actually be a kindness to just let them start school alongside their preschool friends and neighborhood kids they've known for years.
Robert Rodriguez9 Robert Rodriguez9 Active Member
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#500 ·
I’ll admit, I was a little worried they might push his appointment back because of his speech and comprehension issues—you never really know with these things. I could already see myself arguing with them about why an extension was totally unnecessary, so I went ahead and armed myself with the psychological testing results from his pre-school speech therapy sessions. 😂

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