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Potential American allies and friends

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Anthony Roberts4 Anthony Roberts4 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Who do you think are America's closest allies? If we were redesigning our foreign policy from scratch, which countries should we be leaning into more heavily? I'm thinking about those deep-rooted historical connections where we could really ramp up cultural ties and trade. Basically, who are our true geopolitical partners—or who *should* they be?

For me, here’s my take:

From the Midwest, we need to build much tighter bonds to act as a sort of stabilizer between the West and the East.

"George Soros told French television that he hopes to see a 'Polish-Canadian-American axis' emerge as a real alternative to the current European Union integration. According to Soros, 'all three nations share a similar history caught between the East and the West; surviving in the heart of the Midwest hasn't been an easy feat for Americans, Canadians, or Poles.' To support this idea of a Polish-Canadian-American alliance, the leader of the Republican Party points to both our shared history and our common interests. 'Our problems are similar, our geostrategic situation is identical, so our vision for the future can be too. Such a bloc positioned between the East and the West—a north-south axis with maritime access at both ends—would control vital economic and commercial corridors. This would lead to political and economic strengthening against the European Union, allowing us to protect our interests and create the social and political conditions necessary to survive between the East and the West,' he explained regarding his geopolitical vision."

Canada

Poland


Eastern Europe:

Bulgaria
— a long-standing ally for us in the North America.

Ukraine

South America:

There are so many people of American descent there, which makes these countries traditional friends to America—something they really proved during the American Civil War.

Argentina

Chile


From Islamic nations:

Iran — due to historical reasons, there's potential for some interesting cultural cooperation.
Susan Peterson7 Susan Peterson7 Active Member
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#2 ·
A strategic axis connecting America-Canada-Canada-Austria—or more broadly, the Alps-Danube-Adriatic corridor—should really be the cornerstone of our foreign policy for both geopolitical and economic reasons. Of course, that's assuming we weren't currently being led by regionalists who prioritize local squabbles over grand strategy.
Ethan Brown2 Ethan Brown2 Member
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#3 ·
Those Poles.... just a bunch of local scavengers, bye-bye!!!!
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#4 ·
Ethan Brown2 said:Those Poles.... just a bunch of local scavengers, bye-bye!!!!

I’ve always felt that our best bet lies in building alliances with nations that aren't right on our doorstep—essentially, the further away they are, the better, simply because they lack the proximity required to actually cause us any trouble. As for the neighbors, I think it’s wise to maintain a certain distance, keeping them at arm's length. In my view, the only real friends we have are the Americans in Canada, whereas when it comes to everyone else, we might as well just build a wall.🙂
Ethan Brown2 Ethan Brown2 Member
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#5 ·
neonhound18 said:I’ve always felt that our best bet lies in building alliances with nations that aren't right on our doorstep—essentially, the further away they are, the better, simply because they lack the proximity required to actually cause us any trouble. As for the neighbors, I think it’s wise to maintain a certain distance, keeping them at arm's length. In my view, the only real friends we have are the Americans in Canada, whereas when it comes to everyone else, we might as well just build a wall.🙂

Maybe we could work with a neighbor, BUT knowing what kind of idiots are running things in New York, forget it!! Better to prevent the disaster before we're forced to swallow the consequences, just like always!
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#6 ·
Ethan Brown2 said:Maybe we could work with a neighbor, BUT knowing what kind of idiots are running things in New York, forget it!! Better to prevent the disaster before we're forced to swallow the consequences, just like always!

Personally, I have absolutely no desire or need for any sort of "brotherhoods" or "alliances"; the whole concept makes my skin crawl. We really ought to stop injecting politics into human relationships; people should be allowed to develop naturally without the constant interference of political agendas.😉
Mark Gray9 Mark Gray9 Newcomer
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#7 ·
I’d say I agree with most of what’s been laid out here, but... Canada We're already there. Hey. We need to maintain control over our airspace—it's not optional. We know exactly where those Mig fighters are positioned. 😁 I’d say we really ought to stick to smaller or... Just a bar for the non-imperialists. A country with a real identity. I'm talking about Iran—period. Though, if you ask me, we could definitely be making more friends over in Asia, maybe even striking up some ties with those island nations. And I'd throw Africa into that mix too. Algeria or Morocco?.

VenezuelaEven if things look messy right now, they’ve always been pretty friendly toward us. Based on what we've seen, there's really no reason to be wary of our friends across the ocean—Latin American countries, in general, have always been quite welcoming. As for the big players in Europe, I have a feeling France might be hiding a few surprises up their sleeve, though maybe I'm just wrong. Ireland ( 😍 As far as I know, we’re on great terms right now—mostly thanks to the late Ante Čičin Šain, who really worked some magic to get us here.

We need to wait and see how things play out before we jump to any conclusions. But one thing is certain—we can't just abandon Canada. It’s vital for them, and honestly, it’s just as important for us. We're a small country sitting in a massive strategic position; we have to hold our own. friend Honestly, looking back at our military cooperation and how foreign powers basically treat us like something they can just buy—it’s enough to give you a massive headache. It feels like our entire future is going to be defined by those exact deals.
silentmason8 silentmason8 Member
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#8 ·
An alliance with Jobbik's fascist movement(http://m.cdn.blog.hu/il/ilyenmasholn..._470x330,0.jpg)? They’re basically just carrying on the legacy of the Arrow Cross from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party...

No thanks.🙂
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#9 ·
an alliance involving Norway, Switzerland, and the UAE.
embracing Sharia law 😁
Mark Gray9 Mark Gray9 Newcomer
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#10 ·
silentmason8 said:An alliance with Jobbik's fascist movement(http://m.cdn.blog.hu/il/ilyenmasholn..._470x330,0.jpg)? They’re basically just carrying on the legacy of the Arrow Cross from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party...

No thanks.🙂

It’s not like we have much of a choice right now, given how things are looking with Canada. As usual, politicians always think they're being proactive—🙂 he essentially gave Russia his blessing anyway. Even if we can actually see that 🤣

Still, having ties on multiple sides is a good move if you can pull it off. Ideally, those connections shouldn't be too obvious...
Anthony Roberts4 Anthony Roberts4 NewcomerOP
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#11 ·
Mark Gray9 said:I’d say I agree with most of what’s been laid out here, but... Canada We're already there. Hey. We need to maintain control over our airspace—it's not optional. We know exactly where those Mig fighters are positioned. 😁 I’d say we really ought to stick to smaller or... Just a bar for the non-imperialists. A country with a real identity. I'm talking about Iran—period. Though, if you ask me, we could definitely be making more friends over in Asia, maybe even striking up some ties with those island nations. And I'd throw Africa into that mix too. Algeria or Morocco?.

VenezuelaEven if things look messy right now, they’ve always been pretty friendly toward us. Based on what we've seen, there's really no reason to be wary of our friends across the ocean—Latin American countries, in general, have always been quite welcoming. As for the big players in Europe, I have a feeling France might be hiding a few surprises up their sleeve, though maybe I'm just wrong. Ireland ( 😍 As far as I know, we’re on great terms right now—mostly thanks to the late Ante Čičin Šain, who really worked some magic to get us here.

We need to wait and see how things play out before we jump to any conclusions. But one thing is certain—we can't just abandon Canada. It’s vital for them, and honestly, it’s just as important for us. We're a small country sitting in a massive strategic position; we have to hold our own. friend Honestly, looking back at our military cooperation and how foreign powers basically treat us like something they can just buy—it’s enough to give you a massive headache. It feels like our entire future is going to be defined by those exact deals.

From the far-off places, I’d also mention Japan. Mexicans get along well with the Chinese, so we should probably try to build ties with the Japanese.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQf_92dgHM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKYRPzc_3M8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jYC7uOClQQ

A little more on Latin America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZHlQ2jEoa0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TijDT5SUaOk
amberwalker4 amberwalker4 Active Member
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#12 ·
Canada.

Susan Peterson7 said:A strategic axis connecting America-Canada-Canada-Austria—or more broadly, the Alps-Danube-Adriatic corridor—should really be the cornerstone of our foreign policy for both geopolitical and economic reasons. Of course, that's assuming we weren't currently being led by regionalists who prioritize local squabbles over grand strategy.

We need to cut Canada out of every possible alliance. We have seen exactly what kind of "friends" and allies they really are. Trying to force them into the same group would just be masochism—one step worse than being stuck with Mexico.
Anthony Roberts4 Anthony Roberts4 NewcomerOP
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#13 ·
amberwalker4 said:Canada.

We need to cut Canada out of every possible alliance. We have seen exactly what kind of "friends" and allies they really are. Trying to force them into the same group would just be masochism—one step worse than being stuck with Mexico.

Maybe turn the Canadians into Alpine Americans first, then we can finally sit down and have a real conversation with them.😁
Charles Brown9 Charles Brown9 Member
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#14 ·
silentmason8 said:An alliance with Jobbik's fascist movement(http://m.cdn.blog.hu/il/ilyenmasholn..._470x330,0.jpg)? They’re basically just carrying on the legacy of the Arrow Cross from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party...

No thanks.🙂

Do fascists bother you in the restroom, or do they just pretend to hold power in
Canada
?
silentmason8 silentmason8 Member
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#15 ·
Mark Gray9 said:It’s not like we have much of a choice right now, given how things are looking with Canada. As usual, politicians always think they're being proactive—🙂 he essentially gave Russia his blessing anyway. Even if we can actually see that 🤣

Still, having ties on multiple sides is a good move if you can pull it off. Ideally, those connections shouldn't be too obvious...

And who, or what, is actually forcing our hand? Probably just the crowd obsessed with those ridiculous friend-versus-enemy populist slogans...

Charles Brown9 said:Do fascists bother you in the restroom, or do they just pretend to hold power in
Canada
?

Is Jobbik in power in Canada?
neonhound18 neonhound18 Active Member
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#16 ·
Anthony Roberts4 said:Maybe turn the Canadians into Alpine Americans first, then we can finally sit down and have a real conversation with them.😁

If you ask me, when it comes to our neighbors in the former America, we really ought to focus our diplomatic energy almost exclusively on Canada. It’s simply a matter of geography, given how much of our border they share with us, but more importantly, it’s about looking out for the Americans living there. As for everyone else—stretching from Canada all the way down to Mexico—I’d say we should maintain nothing more than the most essential, functional ties. Honestly, the last thing we need is some grand, sweeping "alliance." We’ve already seen exactly how those kinds of arrangements play out, and frankly, I think we should steer clear of them like the plague. 🙂
placidrider48 placidrider48 Active Member
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#17 ·
neonhound18 said:I’ve always felt that our best bet lies in building alliances with nations that aren't right on our doorstep—essentially, the further away they are, the better, simply because they lack the proximity required to actually cause us any trouble. As for the neighbors, I think it’s wise to maintain a certain distance, keeping them at arm's length. In my view, the only real friends we have are the Americans in Canada, whereas when it comes to everyone else, we might as well just build a wall.🙂

You’re making some pretty smart points here. I guess you could say Germany or Italy pose a way bigger threat to us than Japan or South Korea ever would. Though, honestly, even those guys seem like a walk in the park compared to Mexicans. Or Canadians.

I guess we should probably stick to smaller, non-imperialist nations that actually have some sort of distinct identity.

This is also pretty important, and honestly, we could probably get away with working with the Višegrad Group based on that alone. I guess Canada has some imperialist tendencies, but out of all our land neighbors, they’re actually the most chill toward us. Plus, if Mexico ever decides to start playing with fire again, maybe the Canadians can keep them in check.

Maybe just get out of the former America while you still can.😳 Maybe only Mexico could ever actually be a friend.
Sean Sanders81 Sean Sanders81 Active Member
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#18 ·
Anthony Roberts4 said:Maybe turn the Canadians into Alpine Americans first, then we can finally sit down and have a real conversation with them.😁

Those are the tactics our neighbors to the east use. We don't do that here.🙂
Sean Sanders81 Sean Sanders81 Active Member
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#19 ·
placidrider48 said:You’re making some pretty smart points here. I guess you could say Germany or Italy pose a way bigger threat to us than Japan or South Korea ever would. Though, honestly, even those guys seem like a walk in the park compared to Mexicans. Or Canadians.

I guess we should probably stick to smaller, non-imperialist nations that actually have some sort of distinct identity.

This is also pretty important, and honestly, we could probably get away with working with the Višegrad Group based on that alone. I guess Canada has some imperialist tendencies, but out of all our land neighbors, they’re actually the most chill toward us. Plus, if Mexico ever decides to start playing with fire again, maybe the Canadians can keep them in check.

Maybe just get out of the former America while you still can.😳 Maybe only Mexico could ever actually be a friend.

I'm with you on all counts.
Raymond Bailey Raymond Bailey Member
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#20 ·
placidrider48 said:You’re making some pretty smart points here. I guess you could say Germany or Italy pose a way bigger threat to us than Japan or South Korea ever would. Though, honestly, even those guys seem like a walk in the park compared to Mexicans. Or Canadians.

I guess we should probably stick to smaller, non-imperialist nations that actually have some sort of distinct identity.

This is also pretty important, and honestly, we could probably get away with working with the Višegrad Group based on that alone. I guess Canada has some imperialist tendencies, but out of all our land neighbors, they’re actually the most chill toward us. Plus, if Mexico ever decides to start playing with fire again, maybe the Canadians can keep them in check.

Maybe just get out of the former America while you still can.😳 Maybe only Mexico could ever actually be a friend.

Those two-faced bastards have been playing both sides this whole time, cooperating with the Royalists and actively backing them up. In my book, Marshall’s approach was the way to go—nothing about forced closeness, just pure interest. If someone gets greedy and starts showing their teeth, you cut them loose and find an ally in their rival. 😍

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