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Accounting for Sole Proprietors: Tax & Bookkeeping Tips

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Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#1881 ·
Olivia Cruz86 said:Okay, so we're talking an outgoing invoice with sales tax that gets logged into the IRA.
But how exactly am I supposed to nail down the "market value"?
And when it comes to clearing them from the books—do I literally just yank them off the inventory list and call it a day?

To get an accurate market value for real estate, you really ought to bring in a professional appraiser. It’s best practice to have them come out and issue a formal certification stating what the current value actually is.
As for the bookkeeping side of things, you would record it using this year's date as the write-off date. That way, the asset remains visible on your balance sheet through 2018, but by the time you hit 2019, it will be officially cleared from the books.
Eric Adams2 Eric Adams2 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1882 ·
Hello there. I’m an independent business owner running an auto repair shop, but my operations also include a car rental side. Recently, I decided to expand into the charter business, which meant picking up a boat to add to the rental fleet. Now, I find myself navigating some tax waters: if I purchase this vessel from another corporation via a sales agreement, am I able to claim a VAT credit on that purchase? Additionally, when I’m filling out my VAT returns, should I categorize this boat under the section for acquiring other long-term assets? And finally, does this also need to be accounted for under the input tax portion of the return?
I would truly appreciate any insights you all might have.
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#1883 ·
Eric Adams2 said:Hello there. I’m an independent business owner running an auto repair shop, but my operations also include a car rental side. Recently, I decided to expand into the charter business, which meant picking up a boat to add to the rental fleet. Now, I find myself navigating some tax waters: if I purchase this vessel from another corporation via a sales agreement, am I able to claim a VAT credit on that purchase? Additionally, when I’m filling out my VAT returns, should I categorize this boat under the section for acquiring other long-term assets? And finally, does this also need to be accounted for under the input tax portion of the return?
I would truly appreciate any insights you all might have.

If you bought the boat from a corporation, you really ought to have an actual invoice rather than just a simple bill of sale. Provided the sales tax is clearly itemized on that invoice, you can absolutely deduct it. Since this falls directly within your line of business, you should be able to claim the full amount of the tax paid.
Everything else you mentioned sounds spot on—both for the tax forms and the depreciation schedules. Just keep in mind that while you can claim the full tax credit immediately, the boat itself won't be treated as an immediate expense; instead, it goes on the books as a fixed asset, and you'll recognize the cost through depreciation over the coming years. But as far as the tax credit goes, you're good to go right away.
Eric Adams2 Eric Adams2 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2018
#1884 ·
Brenda Chase3 said:If you bought the boat from a corporation, you really ought to have an actual invoice rather than just a simple bill of sale. Provided the sales tax is clearly itemized on that invoice, you can absolutely deduct it. Since this falls directly within your line of business, you should be able to claim the full amount of the tax paid.
Everything else you mentioned sounds spot on—both for the tax forms and the depreciation schedules. Just keep in mind that while you can claim the full tax credit immediately, the boat itself won't be treated as an immediate expense; instead, it goes on the books as a fixed asset, and you'll recognize the cost through depreciation over the coming years. But as far as the tax credit goes, you're good to go right away.

I appreciate the insight... however, the vessel was purchased from JPMorgan Chase. It was seized from a debtor and subsequently sold off to a local small business owner.
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#1885 ·
Eric Adams2 said:I appreciate the insight... however, the vessel was purchased from JPMorgan Chase. It was seized from a debtor and subsequently sold off to a local small business owner.

If he wasn't issued an official invoice that includes sales tax for that vessel, then there is simply no way for him to claim a tax credit. It’s that simple. In this scenario, the full purchase price listed on the bill of sale would just be recorded as a fixed asset and depreciated over time using standard annual depreciation rates.
When you are dealing with sales tax, the only thing that matters is whether or not there is a valid tax invoice. If there isn't one, he needs to forget about getting a deduction. On what basis would he even attempt to claim it? Out of thin air? That's just not how the IRS works.
Brandon Jackson4 Brandon Jackson4 Active Member
53 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1886 ·
I submitted my IRS form back in late February.
But as of today, the status under my submitted forms still says "Form successfully received and pending processing."

It’s been about six weeks since I sent it in, so I’m feeling a bit lost...

Does the IRS process these things automatically, or does an agent at the local office eventually get to it manually?

Or did I mess something up and it’s just stuck forever? Everything looked fine during my initial check. Any advice on what to do next?
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1887 ·
Just hang tight and don't sweat it 😉

An IRS agent will get around to processing it eventually.
Gary Garcia10 Gary Garcia10 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2018
#1888 ·
I need to send out an invoice for a job I just finished, but the client won't be paying me for another 90 days.
What should I put on the invoice instead of the standard line:
"Billing based on paid fees."
Eric Adams2 Eric Adams2 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1889 ·
I’ve just received an invoice from a vendor in Canada for a pre-owned Yamaha marine engine, and we’re looking at a price tag north of $5,500. Given the scale of this purchase, I'm planning to categorize it as a long-term capital asset rather than just a standard operating expense.
So, looking at the invoice now, you’ll see it’s been marked as VAT-exempt under the first paragraph of Section 46. Since we both operate within the Views ecosystem, there’s no sales tax applied to this transaction.
I find myself pondering whether I should be including this in my EU intra-community acquisition of goods or if it belongs on the VAT return instead.
Brenda Chase3 Brenda Chase3 Regular
367 messages
joined Dec 2016
#1890 ·
Eric Adams2 said:I’ve just received an invoice from a vendor in Canada for a pre-owned Yamaha marine engine, and we’re looking at a price tag north of $5,500. Given the scale of this purchase, I'm planning to categorize it as a long-term capital asset rather than just a standard operating expense.
So, looking at the invoice now, you’ll see it’s been marked as VAT-exempt under the first paragraph of Section 46. Since we both operate within the Views ecosystem, there’s no sales tax applied to this transaction.
I find myself pondering whether I should be including this in my EU intra-community acquisition of goods or if it belongs on the VAT return instead.

That's correct.
Arthur Bishop6 Arthur Bishop6 Member
46 messages
joined Mar 2013
#1891 ·
Hey, I’ve got a question about this data privacy law. What exactly do small business owners need to get done before the May 1st deadline hits? 😵
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1892 ·
The deadline is May 28th. We all need to get our acts together, though how much of a headache this becomes really depends on what kind of data you’re handling. We're talking specifically about personal information for individuals, not corporate data.
To be honest, I'm completely out of my depth here. I think I'll just pay a professional to handle the whole thing for me rather than risking it. 😉
Arthur Bishop6 Arthur Bishop6 Member
46 messages
joined Mar 2013
#1893 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:The deadline is May 28th. We all need to get our acts together, though how much of a headache this becomes really depends on what kind of data you’re handling. We're talking specifically about personal information for individuals, not corporate data.
To be honest, I'm completely out of my depth here. I think I'll just pay a professional to handle the whole thing for me rather than risking it. 😉


Look, I run my own accounting firm, so here’s what I’m wondering: do clients have to do this themselves, and then I have to do it separately for my own business? I don't even get it. Can you actually outsource this to an expert? If yes, then fine...
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1894 ·
Arthur Bishop6 said:Look, I run my own accounting firm, so here’s what I’m wondering: do clients have to do this themselves, and then I have to do it separately for my own business? I don't even get it. Can you actually outsource this to an expert? If yes, then fine...

Everyone handles their own. 😉

There are plenty of firms that specialize in this, and enough seminars to fill a lifetime. I attended one hosted by RIF-ov recently and it was actually quite solid—I'll likely just hand this task off to the pros next time.
neonsurfer13 neonsurfer13 Active Member
71 messages
joined May 2007
#1895 ·
Can someone just give me the quick rundown here? Like, what exactly needs to be aligned and actually done?
Arthur Bishop6 Arthur Bishop6 Member
46 messages
joined Mar 2013
#1896 ·
neonsurfer13 said:Can someone just give me the quick rundown here? Like, what exactly needs to be aligned and actually done?


Yeah, it would be great if someone could just lay it out in a couple of sentences. What's the actual job? Are we talking about code changes for us developers, or is this more like money laundering where we need a mountain of paperwork and deep forensic audits? 🙂
neonsurfer13 neonsurfer13 Active Member
71 messages
joined May 2007
#1897 ·
I don't collect any more info from my clients than what’s strictly necessary to send out an invoice. If I'm working on something like an e-commerce site—which, by the way, doesn't even touch credit card data—what do I actually need to do to stay compliant with CCPA? Do I need to notify clients about this, or set up some specific warnings that go beyond the standard cookie banners we already use?
Arthur Thomas5 Arthur Thomas5 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2017
#1898 ·
When you're filing those forms for sole proprietorships, how are you handling the taxpayer name field? Do you list the owner's full legal name, or do you go with the registered DBA name?
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1899 ·
So, they gave me the contractor's full name, but then someone tried to claim that CCPA doesn't apply to their data because they have legal personhood. 🤷
Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
167 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1900 ·
Does anyone happen to have a template for a customer consent form specifically for an auto repair shop? Since I work in the insurance sector, I need to include the vehicle owner's details on my invoices—but the insurance companies just list the make and model on the claim reports, without even providing the license plate number! It feels like the responsibility falls entirely on me to track down those personal details, which obviously means I’ll need a formal signed authorization to do so legally... I checked with the folks at the insurance agency, and they were honestly pretty clueless about the best way to handle this process. So, I'm reaching out to this group to see if anyone can walk me through the specifics or, better yet, if anyone has a ready-to-use template that would be appropriate for this kind of thing. I would be incredibly grateful for any help you could offer!🙏🙏🙏

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