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Massive protests erupt to topple the Democratic Party's government!

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Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Feb 2017
#1 ·
Judging by the comments here, it looks like this administration is driving everyone absolutely insane. Honestly, I don't think Americans have been this divided or argumentative in the last twenty years, and it all stems from how the Democratic Party's statements and actions have stirred up so much unrest in our society. What’s happening in the U.S. right now is a massive danger and incredibly damaging to our people. It isn't just that Democrats are tearing us apart; our economy is tanking too. Unemployment is creeping up across the country, more citizens are struggling just to make ends meet, and there's zero sign of any positive momentum. I really don't understand why we should have to put up with this anymore. It’s already been two years; we gave them plenty of time, and they haven't done anything intelligent—just pure destruction. Because of that, I truly believe we have every right to demand resignations from those in charge and organize new early elections.

If people are actually on board with protesting, I’d suggest setting it for December 4th. That would mark exactly two years since the Coalition took power. Back in 2011, we had the elections. In my view, we've given them enough runway to actually accomplish something. Now, it’s time for a change. Look, if a government fails to meet public expectations, they should be replaced immediately. We should apply that logic to every single party until we finally land on the right leadership. That ought to become standard practice in the U.S., just like it has been for a long time in other civilized nations. Politicians need to realize they are there to serve the people, not to act superior or arrogant and lecture everyone else on how to behave.

I know, I know—you guys are going to come at me, calling me a Republican or a nationalist or whatever. Unfortunately, no matter who you are, you’re never going to satisfy everyone. But believe it or not, my only real concern is that Americans are happy and living in peace. I couldn't care less about the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, or any of those other fraudulent outfits. I'm not blind; I can see the heavy-handed manipulation being pushed on the American people by both domestic and foreign actors. But no amount of manipulation can last forever.

I dream of the day when we get a fresh, normal political party led by actual, normal human beings. But in this country, that's basically science fiction. That's why we need to constantly push back and tear down failing governments until the right one finally arrives.

Let's decide here when we're going to get these protests organized. Throw out your suggestions.

And obviously, we need to keep the protests peaceful and respectful!
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jan 2008
#2 ·
Well, obviously you're just a Republican if you're standing against the Democratic Party. ☕

Look, compared to this disastrous administration, any other option feels like a lesser evil—it’s truly pathetic. They are incredibly incompetent and, frankly, malicious. Honestly, my apartment building's representative could run this country better than they do, and believe me, that guy isn't exactly some high-level political mastermind.
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jan 2008
#3 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:Judging by the comments here, it looks like this administration is driving everyone absolutely insane. Honestly, I don't think Americans have been this divided or argumentative in the last twenty years, and it all stems from how the Democratic Party's statements and actions have stirred up so much unrest in our society. What’s happening in the U.S. right now is a massive danger and incredibly damaging to our people. It isn't just that Democrats are tearing us apart; our economy is tanking too. Unemployment is creeping up across the country, more citizens are struggling just to make ends meet, and there's zero sign of any positive momentum. I really don't understand why we should have to put up with this anymore. It’s already been two years; we gave them plenty of time, and they haven't done anything intelligent—just pure destruction. Because of that, I truly believe we have every right to demand resignations from those in charge and organize new early elections.

If people are actually on board with protesting, I’d suggest setting it for December 4th. That would mark exactly two years since the Coalition took power. Back in 2011, we had the elections. In my view, we've given them enough runway to actually accomplish something. Now, it’s time for a change. Look, if a government fails to meet public expectations, they should be replaced immediately. We should apply that logic to every single party until we finally land on the right leadership. That ought to become standard practice in the U.S., just like it has been for a long time in other civilized nations. Politicians need to realize they are there to serve the people, not to act superior or arrogant and lecture everyone else on how to behave.

I know, I know—you guys are going to come at me, calling me a Republican or a nationalist or whatever. Unfortunately, no matter who you are, you’re never going to satisfy everyone. But believe it or not, my only real concern is that Americans are happy and living in peace. I couldn't care less about the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, or any of those other fraudulent outfits. I'm not blind; I can see the heavy-handed manipulation being pushed on the American people by both domestic and foreign actors. But no amount of manipulation can last forever.

I dream of the day when we get a fresh, normal political party led by actual, normal human beings. But in this country, that's basically science fiction. That's why we need to constantly push back and tear down failing governments until the right one finally arrives.

Let's decide here when we're going to get these protests organized. Throw out your suggestions.

And obviously, we need to keep the protests peaceful and respectful!

Right—because those same people were the ones orchestrating that absolute street brawl two years ago...🤷 If you ask me, there’s no way it’ll turn out any differently. It really just comes down to a basic difference in civilization.
Susan Jackson65 Susan Jackson65 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2013
#4 ·
George Morgan3 said:Well, obviously you're just a Republican if you're standing against the Democratic Party. ☕

Look, compared to this disastrous administration, any other option feels like a lesser evil—it’s truly pathetic. They are incredibly incompetent and, frankly, malicious. Honestly, my apartment building's representative could run this country better than they do, and believe me, that guy isn't exactly some high-level political mastermind.

Edited.

Since the current government is also an absolute disaster—just not a Republican one—it naturally follows that they represent the lesser of two evils. And since less evil is effectively more progress, we’re all somehow coming out ahead here. 😁
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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joined Jun 2022
#5 ·
I still remember those massive protests against the Republican Party government, when everyone was out in the streets making noise

And what did all that actually get us? Absolutely nothing.
Carl Hill6 Carl Hill6 Member
42 messages
joined Jul 2009
#6 ·
If we need a federal takeover to get things done, I’m all for tearing down these cowards
but if the Republicans are the ones coming in, I suppose those cowards are still better than this
☕
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Feb 2017
#7 ·
George Morgan3 said:Right—because those same people were the ones orchestrating that absolute street brawl two years ago...🤷 If you ask me, there’s no way it’ll turn out any differently. It really just comes down to a basic difference in civilization.

Check out this Facebook page that was actually pulling the strings behind those protests two years back: https://www.facebook.com/prosvjed

It's pretty obvious they lean heavily toward the Democratic Party side of things. There's no way this group is going to organize any kind of rally against the Democrats anytime soon. Just look at the likes on their posts: May 25th - Youth Day, Government of the Republic of America.
Gregory Peterson2 Gregory Peterson2 Member
30 messages
joined Aug 2013
#8 ·
This current government is absolutely atrocious—just a total disaster from top to bottom. But here’s the kicker: if we actually manage to tear them down, the Republican Party just steps right into the driver's seat. So, honestly? I don't see any point in putting on a giant circus with all the campaigning, expensive ads, and paying for elections just to hand the keys back to another piece of garbage. Until some fresh face emerges or a legitimate new movement crystallizes, whether our elections are scheduled or snap, they feel pretty pointless to me.
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jan 2008
#9 ·
Larry Walker24 said:I still remember those massive protests against the Republican Party government, when everyone was out in the streets making noise

And what did all that actually get us? Absolutely nothing.

"Nothing"? That’s a joke. All it did was bring the big donors straight to the government's doorstep.

Organizing protests against a government with abysmal approval ratings just a month before an election... it's almost laughable. 😁
Robert Clark4 Robert Clark4 Active Member
74 messages
joined Jul 2018
#10 ·
I’m honestly not feeling the whole early election thing right now, because if we pull that trigger today, we're basically choosing between four more years of Kukurikacija or getting Tomislav Karamarko as our PM. I can't even decide which of those outcomes is actually scarier 😲

I guess I'm just holding out hope that over the next two years, maybe a decent new party will pop up, or—if I'm being really optimistic—the Republican Party might actually start acting a bit more reasonable.

Though, let's be real, that second option is probably a long shot...
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jan 2008
#11 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:Check out this Facebook page that was actually pulling the strings behind those protests two years back: https://www.facebook.com/prosvjed

It's pretty obvious they lean heavily toward the Democratic Party side of things. There's no way this group is going to organize any kind of rally against the Democrats anytime soon. Just look at the likes on their posts: May 25th - Youth Day, Government of the Republic of America.

Ostojić's Civic Action and the Young Democrats... that's old news.
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
256 messages
joined Feb 2012
#12 ·
Larry Walker24 said:I still remember those massive protests against the Republican Party government, when everyone was out in the streets making noise

And what did all that actually get us? Absolutely nothing.

There were hardly any people there to begin with.

Even if there were, mass protests can't legally unseat a government. That power belongs strictly to Congress—specifically, the representatives who hold that 77-vote majority.

There is simply no other legal path forward, no matter how much pressure is applied over the next two years. It’s a bit frustrating, really, because there isn't a single alternative mechanism outside of the legislative branch. As long as one group holds those 77 seats, you can yell from the rooftops or try to get under their skin, but you aren't going to topple them.
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Feb 2017
#13 ·
Larry Walker24 said:I still remember those massive protests against the Republican Party government, when everyone was out in the streets making noise

And what did all that actually get us? Absolutely nothing.

At the very least, politicians would feel the heat, and their public image would take a massive hit. People are always watching when citizens start getting restless. If something big happens, the Republican Party loses ground in the next election, and then the Democratic Party just swoops in and exploits that momentum during their campaign.
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
256 messages
joined Feb 2012
#14 ·
Gregory Peterson2 said:This current government is absolutely atrocious—just a total disaster from top to bottom. But here’s the kicker: if we actually manage to tear them down, the Republican Party just steps right into the driver's seat. So, honestly? I don't see any point in putting on a giant circus with all the campaigning, expensive ads, and paying for elections just to hand the keys back to another piece of garbage. Until some fresh face emerges or a legitimate new movement crystallizes, whether our elections are scheduled or snap, they feel pretty pointless to me.

That doesn't really hold water as an excuse, though. Look, the current administration only exists because the Republican Party was voted out, so that doesn't mean taking them out was the wrong move back then. You have to push for change whenever the people in charge are failing, even if the opposition isn't exactly a dream team either. The real headache is that we don't have much leverage to force a change outside of waiting for the next election every four years.

Beyond that, I'm not entirely convinced that new elections would automatically hand the keys to the Republican Party. It’s possible the labor unions might join the coalition and shift things around. They could make things better, or they could make them worse—it's a toss-up. Honestly, it feels like our only real option is a bit of trial and error.
Robert Clark4 Robert Clark4 Active Member
74 messages
joined Jul 2018
#15 ·
James Nguyen13 said:There were hardly any people there to begin with.

Even if there were, mass protests can't legally unseat a government. That power belongs strictly to Congress—specifically, the representatives who hold that 77-vote majority.

There is simply no other legal path forward, no matter how much pressure is applied over the next two years. It’s a bit frustrating, really, because there isn't a single alternative mechanism outside of the legislative branch. As long as one group holds those 77 seats, you can yell from the rooftops or try to get under their skin, but you aren't going to topple them.

That’s a fair point. Honestly, if the Republican Party's administration didn't fall back on July 1st, 2009, then I guess it's pretty much wishful thinking to expect the same thing from this crew today.

Looks like we're stuck dealing with this until the end of 2015. 🥳
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Feb 2017
#16 ·
James Nguyen13 said:There were hardly any people there to begin with.

Even if there were, mass protests can't legally unseat a government. That power belongs strictly to Congress—specifically, the representatives who hold that 77-vote majority.

There is simply no other legal path forward, no matter how much pressure is applied over the next two years. It’s a bit frustrating, really, because there isn't a single alternative mechanism outside of the legislative branch. As long as one group holds those 77 seats, you can yell from the rooftops or try to get under their skin, but you aren't going to topple them.

Could a referendum be used to change the administration?

If that isn't an option, then the whole thing is honestly pretty stupid and undemocratic.
Gregory Peterson2 Gregory Peterson2 Member
30 messages
joined Aug 2013
#17 ·
James Nguyen13 said:That doesn't really hold water as an excuse, though. Look, the current administration only exists because the Republican Party was voted out, so that doesn't mean taking them out was the wrong move back then. You have to push for change whenever the people in charge are failing, even if the opposition isn't exactly a dream team either. The real headache is that we don't have much leverage to force a change outside of waiting for the next election every four years.

Beyond that, I'm not entirely convinced that new elections would automatically hand the keys to the Republican Party. It’s possible the labor unions might join the coalition and shift things around. They could make things better, or they could make them worse—it's a toss-up. Honestly, it feels like our only real option is a bit of trial and error.

What do you mean, "overthrowing the Republican Party"? Even after those big shots went to prison, they still finished out their term.
I'm pretty certain the Republican Party would win again (unless Kukurikacija pulls off another upset), and then who’s going to stand up to them? Veterans? The church? The nationalists? God forbid we accidentally trigger a backlash. ☕ The Republican Party can pick a fight with everyone for fifteen years straight, and you won't see any of that right-wing terror we deal with today under the guise of "family values" or cultural identity.

Bottom line: I wouldn't waste a dime on an election just to put that version of the Republican Party back in charge and watch Tomislav Karamarko serve as Prime Minister for four years.
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 MemberOP
39 messages
joined Feb 2017
#18 ·
George Morgan3 said:Ostojić's Civic Action and the Young Democrats... that's old news.

Man, I really need to find a way to dislike this page. It used to work for me, but now it just won't let me. 😁
Morgan Brown4 Morgan Brown4 Active Member
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joined Dec 2024
#19 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:Could a referendum be used to change the administration?

If that isn't an option, then the whole thing is honestly pretty stupid and undemocratic.


Man, I've been chewing on that too.

But honestly, I wouldn't even bother thinking about a "referendum" for early elections until some kind of third party actually gets off the ground.
Robert Clark4 Robert Clark4 Active Member
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joined Jul 2018
#20 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:Could a referendum be used to change the administration?

If that isn't an option, then the whole thing is honestly pretty stupid and undemocratic.

I’m kind of worried that these recent changes to the Constitution might actually wipe that option off the table entirely. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit, especially since they already mentioned they want to strictly limit what kind of stuff can even be put up for a vote in a referendum down the road. ☕

But man, they'd have to be total fools not to take advantage of that loophole if it exists. And let's be real, those guys always learn from their mistakes...

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