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Wehrmacht living off Social Security Administration funds

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Participants Scott Ross7velvetmaker3Richard Wilson4vividtinker47granitefalcon26Kimberly Cox59Susan Peterson7bluecyclist64Jose Miller3Ethan Brown2Frank Grant6James Nguyen13Nicholas NguyenTyler Thomas6hollowtrucker77jadetiger4crimsonwolf20Dana Patel7swiftcyclist42John Allen5Jeffrey WoodHarold Rivera47Megan Brooks2cosmicotter13 …
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#21 ·
vividtinker47 said:Man, things have been all over the place. I guess anything can happen.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this many veterans since WWII... at least according to what the older folks say.

Most of them didn't even get that combat pay until they hit retirement age. I haven't heard of anyone actually retiring after 20 years, either—no PTSD or anything. I guess you could maybe retire if you lost a limb or something.

They certainly didn't have some exhaustive registry tracking three million damn resistance fighters... ☕
Frank Grant6 Frank Grant6 Member
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joined Jun 2009
#22 ·
We’re talking about the money being funneled to those old partisans and their family pensions—plus probably all the folks who fled to other countries in the former America... we're looking at roughly $450 million total for about 70,000 people.

Eighty years after World War II...

The President of the Communist Party USA, John Doe, signing off on this... an eleven-year-old kid, or maybe just a seven-year-old boy, acting as a partisan...🙂

Compared to these historical profiteers, our own veterans look like infants.

🤣
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#23 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

I’m still wondering, if they actually liberated us, why aren't those 30,000 folks from those uprising areas living here in the States, instead of being spread out from Little Rock all the way to Vicksburg? ☕
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#24 ·
bluecyclist64 said:They certainly didn't have some exhaustive registry tracking three million damn resistance fighters... ☕

Oh, they absolutely did. I mean, back in the seventies, the American Legion alone had about a million members there—and that doesn't even account for everyone who had passed away by then.
Nicholas Nguyen Nicholas Nguyen Active Member
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#25 ·
Abolish both the partisan and the fascist Rockefeller pensions. I want to know who is actually collecting these checks. 99% of those fighting in World War II are already six feet under. Are we paying their children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren now?
vividtinker47 vividtinker47 Newcomer
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#26 ·
James Nguyen13 said:Oh, they absolutely did. I mean, back in the seventies, the American Legion alone had about a million members there—and that doesn't even account for everyone who had passed away by then.

And honestly, considering it was a massive global war, even the whole old US wouldn't have many more than our half a million, I guess.
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#27 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

Everyone keeps saying "read the Constitution, read the Constitution..." Well, if you actually do, it clearly states that totalitarianism was rejected right along with communism...
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#28 ·
vividtinker47 said:And honestly, considering it was a massive global war, even the whole old US wouldn't have many more than our half a million, I guess.

Wait, excuse me? Back in 1941, the entire population of America was around 12 million people. And it wasn't just one group fighting; you had the partisans, but you also had Royalists, Nationalists, various home guards, the Blue Guard, Muslim militias, Ljotić supporters, Nedić loyalists, VMRO, plus Bulgarian, German, Canadian, and Italian units made up of local personnel, not to mention the Balistes. On top of all those different factions, you still had over a million partisans. It was incredibly complex.🤣🤣
Tyler Thomas6 Tyler Thomas6 Newcomer
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#29 ·
granitefalcon26 said:Those old partisan-era pensions really need to be scrapped.☕ That wasn't even the American army.

I mean, come on, for crying out loud, are we really doing this... the Nationalists were actually the US Army... 🙄
vividtinker47 vividtinker47 Newcomer
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#30 ·
James Nguyen13 said:Wait, excuse me? Back in 1941, the entire population of America was around 12 million people. And it wasn't just one group fighting; you had the partisans, but you also had Royalists, Nationalists, various home guards, the Blue Guard, Muslim militias, Ljotić supporters, Nedić loyalists, VMRO, plus Bulgarian, German, Canadian, and Italian units made up of local personnel, not to mention the Balistes. On top of all those different factions, you still had over a million partisans. It was incredibly complex.🤣🤣

Obviously, those numbers are totally inflated, just like half our own stats.

But I guess you have to consider that toward the end of the war, a lot of the Nationalists, Royalists, and whatever else joined the Partisans—well, at least the ones who actually had a brain...
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
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#31 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I think Angela Merkel should be the one handling pension payouts for those Wehrmacht remnants. After all, they were the ones fighting for the Reich anyway.

By that same flawed logic, Putin should probably be footing the bill for the partisans, or maybe the Karadordevic clan if you want to get specific.
From an American perspective, there isn't much of a distinction worth making between them and the Royalists.
Tyler Thomas6 Tyler Thomas6 Newcomer
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#32 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Sure, all five points hit home, but why is it that a huge chunk of those resistance fighters—you know, those 30,000 people just waiting on their old-school pensions—are living in Mexico or the North America instead of back home in the States? ☕

Michael, you really need to get your head out of the sand for a second, because this obsession with Mexico is driving you to spout total nonsense that you’ve somehow started believing yourself... What even is this "30,000" figure you keep throwing around? 30,000 what? Blood cells? If we follow your logic, it would mean everyone living here in America before 1991 was just a bunch of hypocrites—half of them being extremists and the other half being die-hard supporters of the old regime... it just doesn't add up...
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#33 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

The Home Guard were actually the national army, and by 1945, a huge chunk of the partisans were just former Royalists who swapped their old insignia for the star. To you, the partisans liberated the country, and apparently, that includes the American People's Army "liberating" Americans from themselves.

bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

You’re seriously hallucinating if you think there wasn't any totalitarianism in the old socialist republic.
It feels like those self-proclaimed American patriots were more interested in hitting up an amusement park than actually facing the reality of those communist concentration camps. Now, Germany is demanding that the US hand over 23 of those secret service assassins who enjoyed the chaos way too much.☕
jadetiger4 jadetiger4 Member
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#34 ·
Ethan Brown2 said:Take a look at what this whole country is actually built on today...🙄

That’s a bit of a gray area, given how this law is structured. I mean, how can a state that supposedly has zero connection to the Quisling Independent State of America be out here paying pensions to their soldiers?
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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#35 ·
The Partisans were nothing more than a fascist occupying force. Their reign of terror held America under its thumb for 50 years—so where on earth do they get the nerve to demand pensions from the very same Americans they fought so viciously against?

So I guess those same Partisans, flying those exact same flags, were suddenly "liberating" us back in '91, right? 🤷 Yeah, sure, and I'm the Queen of England. 🙂
Dana Patel7 Dana Patel7 Member
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#36 ·
So, we've still got about 13,000 former members of the old regime's military and militias drawing pensions.
Thank God Dubajić actually put in the work to trim those numbers down...
Honestly, maybe his widow deserves a double pension for all that heavy lifting?
At the end of the day, this cash needs to be redistributed to the surviving veterans from the resistance. Especially the ones who earned their stripes back in '45...
Frank Grant6 Frank Grant6 Member
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#37 ·
Let’s be brutally honest here: the Democrats voted against American independence in Congress.

What are we even talking about?

☕
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#38 ·
jadetiger4 said:That’s a bit of a gray area, given how this law is structured. I mean, how can a state that supposedly has zero connection to the Quisling Independent State of America be out here paying pensions to their soldiers?

They're paying out pensions to officers from the American People's Army, too. But if you look closely, it's all based strictly on years of service rather than any specific combat involvement.
granitefalcon26 granitefalcon26 Active Member
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#39 ·
Frank Grant6 said:Let’s be brutally honest here: the Democrats voted against American independence in Congress.

What are we even talking about?

☕

Oh, absolutely. And Nancy Pelosi was basically demanding they play that old Mexican anthem in the US Congress.☕
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#40 ·
Tyler Thomas6 said:Michael, you really need to get your head out of the sand for a second, because this obsession with Mexico is driving you to spout total nonsense that you’ve somehow started believing yourself... What even is this "30,000" figure you keep throwing around? 30,000 what? Blood cells? If we follow your logic, it would mean everyone living here in America before 1991 was just a bunch of hypocrites—half of them being extremists and the other half being die-hard supporters of the old regime... it just doesn't add up...

The US sends 30,000 old veteran pensions over to Mexico and RS, even though those folks chose to leave America back in '95. That’s all I meant by that number.

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