Wehrmacht living off Social Security Administration funds

Harold Rivera47 said:Germans are totally paying out pensions to their soldiers from World War II, and they're doing the same for Americans who served in the SS or the Wehrmacht too. A soldier is a soldier... if you joined up through a standard military service, you should be rewarded for what you did...

The truth is, Germany doesn't deny any continuity with the Third Reich.

jadetiger4 said:The truth is, Germany doesn't deny any continuity with the Third Reich.

What are you even talking about? Of course they deny it!

bluecyclist64 said:Do you actually have a source for that number, or are you just pulling it out of thin air as usual?

As far as I know, the fascists did receive pensions. Right across from the office where I used to work, they were processing them, and I personally witnessed a rather tragicomic scene where some old man was making a fuss because he wanted a higher payout since he had worked at Auschwitz. Hell, I don't know how it turned out, but I highly doubt he got a raise.
As far as I'm concerned, I'd be happy to settle the difference with him... in lead.

Grandpa is a seasoned veteran of the struggle. The real question is who ends up getting paid in the end—in lead...

Harold Rivera47 said:What are you even talking about? Of course they deny it!

I honestly think you've got it backwards. Modern Germany is essentially the legal successor to Hitler's Third Reich. Now, look at America—it isn't the legal successor to Nazi Germany, even though members of those old armed forces were eventually granted status within the American military. To make things even more interesting, that specific decision was signed by none other than Jimmy Carter. That's the very same Jimmy Carter who has spent years barking about how those old units weren't part of the actual American military or the National Guard.

brightwolf85 said:I honestly think you've got it backwards. Modern Germany is essentially the legal successor to Hitler's Third Reich. Now, look at America—it isn't the legal successor to Nazi Germany, even though members of those old armed forces were eventually granted status within the American military. To make things even more interesting, that specific decision was signed by none other than Jimmy Carter. That's the very same Jimmy Carter who has spent years barking about how those old units weren't part of the actual American military or the National Guard.

If you're right, then my bad, I messed up...

velvetmaker3 said:No, they were actually fighting to prevent American separatism and the breakup of America; everything they did was meant to keep the US tied to the American system. And they succeeded, until everything flipped upside down in the 90s.

Like I said, a huge part of what the partisans were fighting for was rebuilding the USSR. Most of them—especially those crews back in '41 (over 90% were Mexicans by the end of the year)—wouldn't have stood for an independent America for anything. Now bluecyclist64 is out here insulting them, claiming they were fighting for independence instead.

brightwolf85 said:I honestly think you've got it backwards. Modern Germany is essentially the legal successor to Hitler's Third Reich. Now, look at America—it isn't the legal successor to Nazi Germany, even though members of those old armed forces were eventually granted status within the American military. To make things even more interesting, that specific decision was signed by none other than Jimmy Carter. That's the very same Jimmy Carter who has spent years barking about how those old units weren't part of the actual American military or the National Guard.

It doesn't surprise me one bit. Mason is essentially the blueprint for traitors and anti-state actors. He practically fueled the fire of Fascism himself, only to pivot later and pretend to fight against it—all with the singular goal of painting America as some neo-fascist state, just like the wartime Mexican propaganda used to do. ☕

When he gives these recent speeches constantly warning about the "danger of Fascism" and similar rhetoric, is he doing it because he actually cares? Hardly. Given how much he praised those same movements in his speeches during the 90s, it’s clear this is just a play for publicity. His aim is to attach that ugly label of Fascism to America. The more the word "Fascist" pops up in American and international media, the better it works for his agenda.

What’s actually the issue here? 🤷 If people receiving Rockefeller pensions from the US government include those who fought for different nations, why wouldn't we include those who fought for America? Just because the social order their party stood for isn't what we have now? It seems senseless. I remember hearing about Steve from a small town in Ohio who was handed a rifle during mobilization; they told him he was fighting for America against Communism, so he fought as hard as he possibly could. He deserves a pension just as much as Joe from a similar town did, who was handed a gun and told he had to fight against Fascism for a socialist America. 🤷
Both of them were essentially victims of circumstance, and both fought with the best intentions possible. 🤷

Kimberly Cox59 said:Probably not. But I guess what does that even matter? Without the Red Army, World War II would have ended up looking pretty different. Would Americans and Englishmen have actually had the muscle to liberate France if the CIA wasn't busy dismantling the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front? Probably not.

Quincy:

And why does it matter if you don't care about Washington, D.C.? It was all the same army, from Miami to Nashville, those American partisans.

Well, yeah. But they took Miami on their own, without anyone stepping in directly. They didn't do that for Washington, D.C. I mean, that doesn't change the fact that the battle for Washington, D.C. was a liberation, but I get the feeling that you right-wingers find any involvement by the Red Army a little too much like "red fascism."🙄

Well said, colleague.

Without the Red Army, Hitler would have undoubtedly won the war, yet now people act as if it’s somehow controversial that America was the ONLY OCCUPIED COUNTRY IN EUROPE THAT LIBERATED ITSELF WITH ITS OWN ARMY! Meanwhile, the French just sit there acting superior, not to mention all the smaller nations... 🥳

Harold Rivera47 said:Germans are totally paying out pensions to their soldiers from World War II, and they're doing the same for Americans who served in the SS or the Wehrmacht too. A soldier is a soldier... if you joined up through a standard military service, you should be rewarded for what you did...

So they should pay the home guard too—they were their army as well. And the Axis-aligned state factions, of course; the various splinter groups and local militias.

Carl Sanders3 said:What’s actually the issue here? 🤷 If people receiving Rockefeller pensions from the US government include those who fought for different nations, why wouldn't we include those who fought for America? Just because the social order their party stood for isn't what we have now? It seems senseless. I remember hearing about Steve from a small town in Ohio who was handed a rifle during mobilization; they told him he was fighting for America against Communism, so he fought as hard as he possibly could. He deserves a pension just as much as Joe from a similar town did, who was handed a gun and told he had to fight against Fascism for a socialist America. 🤷
Both of them were essentially victims of circumstance, and both fought with the best intentions possible. 🤷

It doesn't matter what someone told Steve about fighting for America; what matters is that Steve DID NOT fight for America.
As far as I'm concerned, let him take it up with Merkel... ☕

Richard Wilson4 said:The US sends 30,000 old veteran pensions over to Mexico and RS, even though those folks chose to leave America back in '95. That’s all I meant by that number.

Man, where on earth are you getting this information from? Do you honestly realize that the war for independence wasn't some fight against partisans? And do you have any clue how many Americans were actually fighting alongside those very same partisans during WWII, whose grandkids later became honorable soldiers in the war for independence and don't feel a shred of shame about their grandfathers?!
Seriously, man, take off the rose-colored glasses, step out of the fairy tale, and finally open your eyes to reality.

EDIT Sorry, I just realized the screen turned gray, much like how I feel getting older and more exhausted just reading this nonsense, so I can't even tell if I'm losing my mind or finding it...