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The Power of Money

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casualtiger2 casualtiger2 Regular
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#21 ·
Money isn't everything.

Part of it is tied up in real estate, stocks, gold, gemstones... 😍
Douglas Gray8 Douglas Gray8 Active Member
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#22 ·
casualtiger2 said:Money isn't everything.

Part of it is tied up in real estate, stocks, gold, gemstones... 😍

but that isn't cash😁
Joshua Adams41 Joshua Adams41 Member
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#23 ·
casualtiger2 said:Money isn't everything.

Part of it is tied up in real estate, stocks, gold, gemstones... 😍

I honestly don't get why everyone views our modern democratic capitalist social structure as a place where money is the absolute deciding factor for having a healthy life.

Maybe it's because we aren't actually living in a modern democratic capitalist social structure?🙂

The way I see it, here, money seems to be the only cure for anything. Yet, just a few hours away from Washington, D.C., you’ve got places like Austria where anyone with actual skills—and let me be clear, in a capitalist system, "skill" means practical expertise, not some useless degree—can actually afford a decent life.

We ought to respect money and the people who actually generate it—the entrepreneurs. So why is the narrative here always about how the future belongs solely to the "educated"?

And I'll say it again: money is merely a tool. Any society that refuses to accept that reality... well, they might as well surrender to its power. They certainly don't deserve anything else.
electricmaker49 electricmaker49 Newcomer
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#24 ·
Money has power, sure, but it’s got its limits. For most of us, those little slips of paper can completely flip your life upside down—for better or worse. But then there’s that other group, the ones pulling the strings behind the scenes, steering the course of history itself. Eventually, the scales always balance out, and every single piece falls right where it belongs. For people who aren't just "regular folks," money isn't even the end goal; it's just a tool used to buy people, to bribe individuals, and to make sure everyone stays on the right side of the fence. It shouldn't be everything, but looking at the world today, it pretty much feels that way.
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#25 ·
I honestly feel like people in today’s society tend to underestimate the true value of money. Everyone seems to look down on it, treating wealth as if it’s something shallow or even superficial—almost like an unnecessary status symbol. There’s this strange social pressure to act more broke than you actually are. It’s almost become fashionable to claim you’re struggling just to make ends meet. The reality is, having money doesn't actually impress anyone anymore; it just invites judgment.
Kenneth Howard7 Kenneth Howard7 Member
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#26 ·
At one point in my life, I hit the jackpot and came into more money than I ever thought possible, and honestly, all that cash really provided was pure freedom.

The freedom to take risks whenever I felt like it! If someone suggested hitting up a fancy steakhouse, I’d say yes without a second thought. If I walked out to my car and found a parking ticket, I wouldn't even blink. I could sign up for some totally random $800 seminar just because, shell out $1167 for a plane ticket before I even knew if I actually needed to travel, or drop $50 on a bike rental just because I didn't dock it properly at the station—and I wouldn't even bother trying to dispute the charge 🙂

In the end, it didn't give me anything beyond that sense of liberty... now, the money is gone, and I find myself overthinking every single decision. The days of reckless risking are officially over...
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#27 ·
I’ve definitely been there—some times I was practically broke, and other times I had enough to not give a damn about the price tag. Honestly, I think having a solid upbringing and a strong sense of self is what keeps money from messing with your head. For me, cash was just a safety net and a way to open some doors. That’s it. It never became my whole identity.
Michael Davis13 Michael Davis13 Member
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#28 ·
Honestly, I think money is just a tool used to manipulate people. The whole system we live in basically brainwashes us into believing everything revolves around the dollar—that having cash equals having power. According to that logic, money is power, but since I’ve never really fit in or truly understood how this rat race works, money doesn't mean much to me...

Whether my bank account is full or totally empty, I'm still the exact same person. Sure, maybe I wouldn't be dealing with all this nonsense if I had a guaranteed steady paycheck, but then again, I might never have opened my eyes to the reality of things. Wealthy people don't get how brutal poverty can be, or what it's like to spend every single day just trying to scrape together enough to survive the next one. On the flip side, we don't really know what it's like to be rich or the specific headaches that kind of wealth brings along with it.

I really believe life isn't as simple as it looks on the surface. It's definitely not just a matter of "to have or not to have"...
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#29 ·
Nowadays, there seems to be this unspoken stigma surrounding wealth. People act like talking about money is some kind of taboo subject you should just avoid at all costs. There’s this prevailing assumption that if anyone actually manages to build up a significant nest egg, they must have some kind of character flaw or a negative personality. It’s as if the general consensus is that the only way to truly get ahead financially is through something shady or outright illegal.
hollowskipper90 hollowskipper90 Newcomer
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#30 ·
Fear wields far more power than money ever could. Currency itself is essentially meaningless; it offers no guarantees and decides nothing on its own. Who among you actually believes otherwise?
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#31 ·
hollowskipper90 said:Fear wields far more power than money ever could. Currency itself is essentially meaningless; it offers no guarantees and decides nothing on its own. Who among you actually believes otherwise?

I have to say, I see things differently.
hollowskipper90 hollowskipper90 Newcomer
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#32 ·
Gary Diaz3 said:I have to say, I see things differently.

And why is that?
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#33 ·
I have to say, I don't quite agree with the idea that money doesn't matter at all.
hollowskipper90 hollowskipper90 Newcomer
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#34 ·
Gary Diaz3 said:I have to say, I don't quite agree with the idea that money doesn't matter at all.

Then what exactly is money supposed to represent?
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#35 ·
hollowskipper90 said:Then what exactly is money supposed to represent?

To me, money is pretty fundamental when it comes to the basics—things like grabbing enough food for the day or keeping my Wi-Fi running. If I’m short on cash, it usually means I’m going hungry or losing my connection to the world.
hollowskipper90 hollowskipper90 Newcomer
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#36 ·
Gary Diaz3 said:To me, money is pretty fundamental when it comes to the basics—things like grabbing enough food for the day or keeping my Wi-Fi running. If I’m short on cash, it usually means I’m going hungry or losing my connection to the world.

Food is something you can always acquire if you're willing to raise an animal yourself or hunt one down in the wild; therefore, it isn't truly an insurmountable obstacle.

In this day and age, you can find free Wi-Fi almost anywhere, and even piggybacking off a neighbor's signal isn't the impossible feat people make it out to be.

So, while money certainly plays a role in our existence, is it strictly necessary to survive? Technically, no. Is it as all-powerful as we act? Not really. But have we been conditioned to believe it's the ultimate master—the one thing without which we are helpless? Absolutely.

Ultimately, the question remains: how will we choose to manage our resources, and how much weight will we allow currency to carry in our lives?
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#37 ·
hollowskipper90 said:Food is something you can always acquire if you're willing to raise an animal yourself or hunt one down in the wild; therefore, it isn't truly an insurmountable obstacle.

In this day and age, you can find free Wi-Fi almost anywhere, and even piggybacking off a neighbor's signal isn't the impossible feat people make it out to be.

So, while money certainly plays a role in our existence, is it strictly necessary to survive? Technically, no. Is it as all-powerful as we act? Not really. But have we been conditioned to believe it's the ultimate master—the one thing without which we are helpless? Absolutely.

Ultimately, the question remains: how will we choose to manage our resources, and how much weight will we allow currency to carry in our lives?

Do you raise animals yourself, or are you more into hunting? If it's the latter, what kind of budget are we looking at for a decent rifle? I'm guessing on top of all that, you're probably busy with school too. Are you managing to pull that off for free, or is it a bit of a struggle?

I can't get any free Wi-Fi at my place, and honestly, I really need to get my electricity sorted out too. I thought about just tapping into my neighbor's setup, but I don't want to go down that road—it’s just not legal, and I'd rather stay on the right side of things.

I’d actually like to argue the exact opposite point here. I honestly think we live in a society that consistently underestimates the role of money, or worse, looks down on it entirely. There seems to be this underlying assumption that amassing wealth is inherently suspicious—maybe even immoral—rather than just being a tool or a result of effort.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#38 ·
Look, let's keep it simple... Having money definitely bumps up your quality of life. It opens way more doors and even helps out with your health indirectly. But at the end of the day, it isn't the core of happiness, nor is it some guarantee for how we actually feel about the world around us.
hollowskipper90 hollowskipper90 Newcomer
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#39 ·
Gary Diaz3 said:Do you raise animals yourself, or are you more into hunting? If it's the latter, what kind of budget are we looking at for a decent rifle? I'm guessing on top of all that, you're probably busy with school too. Are you managing to pull that off for free, or is it a bit of a struggle?

I can't get any free Wi-Fi at my place, and honestly, I really need to get my electricity sorted out too. I thought about just tapping into my neighbor's setup, but I don't want to go down that road—it’s just not legal, and I'd rather stay on the right side of things.

I’d actually like to argue the exact opposite point here. I honestly think we live in a society that consistently underestimates the role of money, or worse, looks down on it entirely. There seems to be this underlying assumption that amassing wealth is inherently suspicious—maybe even immoral—rather than just being a tool or a result of effort.

You completely missed the point, and frankly, I find it tedious to repeat what has already been laid out clearly.
The point was that survival doesn't require any of those external crutches; instead, we exist in a state of perpetual anxiety manufactured by our environment, convincing ourselves that we are nothing without certain tools or status symbols, and fearing that we will somehow fail if we don't conform to those standards.
It doesn't matter; since you failed to grasp the core argument, continuing this discussion is a waste of breath...
Gary Diaz3 Gary Diaz3 Member
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#40 ·
hollowskipper90 said:You completely missed the point, and frankly, I find it tedious to repeat what has already been laid out clearly.
The point was that survival doesn't require any of those external crutches; instead, we exist in a state of perpetual anxiety manufactured by our environment, convincing ourselves that we are nothing without certain tools or status symbols, and fearing that we will somehow fail if we don't conform to those standards.
It doesn't matter; since you failed to grasp the core argument, continuing this discussion is a waste of breath...

Well, sure, it's possible if we all decided to go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. By the way, you should probably tell the unemployed folks out there that they don't even need money then.

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