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The Power of Money

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Participants Eric Newman4graniteangler18Nicholas Gonzalez8redpanther142Joshua Adams41analogwalker8Carl Rivera43Benjamin King17Joshua Cox2Christian Miller14northernscout59Morgan Bishop4Douglas Gray8Austin Vaughn3casualtiger2electricmaker49Gary Diaz3Kenneth Howard7Richard WellsMichael Davis13hollowskipper90Steven Wood72wiredstag30ironrider11 …
Steven Wood72 Steven Wood72 Member
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#41 ·
Money isn't some kind of evil—you should actually be striving to stack as much of it as possible. No matter how much you have, there's always more to get, and that’s exactly how you need to approach it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wealth, provided it's earned legally. Of course, money carries massive weight and immense power; that has always been the case, and it's perfectly normal. Now we get all these tired clichés about how "money can't buy happiness" and whatnot... but honestly? I believe 99% of people are significantly happier with money than without it.
Joshua Adams41 Joshua Adams41 Member
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#42 ·
Gary Diaz3 said:Nowadays, there seems to be this unspoken stigma surrounding wealth. People act like talking about money is some kind of taboo subject you should just avoid at all costs. There’s this prevailing assumption that if anyone actually manages to build up a significant nest egg, they must have some kind of character flaw or a negative personality. It’s as if the general consensus is that the only way to truly get ahead financially is through something shady or outright illegal.

The problem with how we view money in America is that we’re looking at it through a completely warped lens.
Money is meant to be the lifeblood of an economy; it’s the mechanism that allows goods and services to flow smoothly through a civilization.
But here? We see it strictly as a symbol of status, ego, and raw power.
And sure, that's part of it, but the reason it carries such a heavy negative stigma is because of the total lack of transparency—something we all know is happening.

The movement of capital isn't properly regulated, which is exactly what benefits those currently pulling the strings. That’s why people view money as "evil"—because its flow is shrouded in secrecy. It’s decided behind closed doors in high-end steakhouse booths during dinners that cost more than most people make in a year.

Take a look at why money is viewed so cynically in our country.

Think about a Member of Congress asking a Cabinet Secretary to account for expenses on a government credit card, only to be met with a cold, arrogant response: "Who are you to question me?" He’s a federal official; he thinks he’s entitled to whatever he wants without oversight.
Compare that to something like Sweden, where a minister might resign just because some eagle-eyed whistleblower discovered they used a government card to buy a magazine while shopping for their spouse.

Just half an hour ago, I was at a local shop paying $17 taxes, and frankly, I have no idea where that money is actually going. When I voiced my frustration about this system to some self-proclaimed American intellectual, he had the nerve to tell me that once I pay my taxes, that money isn't mine anymore—I have zero right to care about how it's spent.

The US government was once granted millions in funding to develop a digital platform so citizens could actually track budget expenditures in real-time.
And what happened? Not a single cent of that approved funding was ever utilized. They didn't even bother to try and embezzle it; they just let it sit there uselessly.

Look at one of the massive money laundering scandals in the US: a $10 million drain from a major shipyard was only flagged because an automated alarm triggered when an individual attempted to withdraw massive amounts of cash.

At the end of the day, the way people in places like Switzerland, Germany, or Scandinavia view money didn't just happen by accident. It’s a reflection of the societies they built.

Money should fundamentally be a force for good. Yes, it is a source of power, but it shouldn't be a source of unchecked authority. In a nation that demands true transparency, the power held by money becomes inherently limited.
Austin Vaughn3 Austin Vaughn3 Member
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#43 ·
Michael Davis13 said:Honestly, I think money is just a tool used to manipulate people. The whole system we live in basically brainwashes us into believing everything revolves around the dollar—that having cash equals having power. According to that logic, money is power, but since I’ve never really fit in or truly understood how this rat race works, money doesn't mean much to me...

Whether my bank account is full or totally empty, I'm still the exact same person. Sure, maybe I wouldn't be dealing with all this nonsense if I had a guaranteed steady paycheck, but then again, I might never have opened my eyes to the reality of things. Wealthy people don't get how brutal poverty can be, or what it's like to spend every single day just trying to scrape together enough to survive the next one. On the flip side, we don't really know what it's like to be rich or the specific headaches that kind of wealth brings along with it.

I really believe life isn't as simple as it looks on the surface. It's definitely not just a matter of "to have or not to have"...


Look... I never understood the system either. I never fit in. But let's be real: money is power today. Denying that is just stupid.

And that bit about being the "same person" regardless of bank balance? Please, share the secret. Save us materialistic primitives. Enlighten us. Because I am definitely not the same person when I have money versus when I don't. To be clear, I'm not talking about being loaded here; I'm talking about having enough for basic needs.
When I'm broke, I'm worried about survival and my kids. I'm tense, nervous, frustrated. The stress eventually hits me physically. My immune system drops, I get sick easier... and so on.
On the flip side, when I have money, life is easier. I'm calmer, more positive, actually want to see people, help others... I'm healthier and I can afford a decent dentist. 😍
wiredstag30 wiredstag30 Member
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#44 ·
What kind of joke is this? They’re out here preaching about "free time." The truth is you’re just a slave to the clock. You can't truly opt out of everything. It's a reality of life. If you have to grind just to pay the rent, I get it. That's just how it works. But if someone is actually cramping up and wasting twelve hours a day on nonsense like gambling or chasing some fake "Arman Noe" scheme... 😁They better explain themselves, if they even can. 😲
Joshua Adams41 Joshua Adams41 Member
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#45 ·
Austin Vaughn3 said:Look... I never understood the system either. I never fit in. But let's be real: money is power today. Denying that is just stupid.

And that bit about being the "same person" regardless of bank balance? Please, share the secret. Save us materialistic primitives. Enlighten us. Because I am definitely not the same person when I have money versus when I don't. To be clear, I'm not talking about being loaded here; I'm talking about having enough for basic needs.
When I'm broke, I'm worried about survival and my kids. I'm tense, nervous, frustrated. The stress eventually hits me physically. My immune system drops, I get sick easier... and so on.
On the flip side, when I have money, life is easier. I'm calmer, more positive, actually want to see people, help others... I'm healthier and I can afford a decent dentist. 😍

That’s true, but that power is a double-edged sword.
Is it a positive thing for you, or is there a dark side brewing on the other end?

When there’s zero transparency...
then you end up with people like Linič, begging the rest of the world to keep this nation afloat before they sell off every last asset we own.🙂

Have you noticed how every politician's financial disclosure includes their maximum credit limit?
It's right there, meant to justify the flow of cash—to provide actual transparency.

Why isn't that level of accountability applied to individual power? Why isn't money transparent?
Why? Why does an individual expect to have access to massive funds without actually understanding how money works?
It's that old-school, collectivist mindset left over from the old regime.

Think about it: if you had a population that didn't understand how the dollar was pegged to global markets, or a public that didn't realize transparency is the bedrock of fair taxation... they'd be at the mercy of elites manipulating currency strength for their own gain.

So, what’s the point of lecturing people about the power of money when they don't even grasp the mechanics or the consequences?

To them, money is just a new iPhone, a Gucci bag, or a round of beers.

I mean, seriously, get real.🙂
ironrider11 ironrider11 Regular
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#46 ·
Money is just an economic gauge; it’s basically how we measure the value of matter. People are just another variable in the equation.
Having enough of it gives you a certain level of perception... or more accurately, it lets you surrender to the illusion of reality—stuff like "culture, art, fashion, wellness..."
Not having it means seeing things for what they actually are. Seeing through the fake version of life people cling to while stuck in the narrow mindset of their pathetic little "selves."
It's all just a bunch of mindless spinning of stupid, made-up stories... things that wouldn't even exist without cash behind them.

"..but He loves you.. and He needs money!.."
Joshua Cox2 Joshua Cox2 Member
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joined Oct 2013
#47 ·
redpanther142 said:Maybe it isn't a guarantee—but in most scenarios, it’s the ultimate tool. Everything you want to achieve requires capital, and frankly, everything you successfully accomplish eventually pays off.


Dead wrong. You can only buy material stuff with it, and more than half of that is junk. Here is what you actually get for your money.
Joshua Garcia10 Joshua Garcia10 Newcomer
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#48 ·
Lyte-as-a-rock said:You hit the nail on the head, but I’d throw a few more categories into the mix:

a) Money as a safety net (basically a way to dodge existential dread)
b) Money as pure luxury (just a side effect of our consumerist culture)
c) Money for the sake of money (growing up in a culture that treats cash like a god and pushes hoarding without ever explaining why)

I'm with you there... honestly makes me wonder: why don't zebras, giraffes, monkeys, or lions need a bank account just to exist? But for us—the supposedly "top of the food chain" species—life without cash is "impossible"? Pretty weird when you think about it...
Charles Carter3 Charles Carter3 Newcomer
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#49 ·
Joshua Adams41 said:I honestly don't get why everyone views our modern democratic capitalist social structure as a place where money is the absolute deciding factor for having a healthy life.

Maybe it's because we aren't actually living in a modern democratic capitalist social structure?🙂

The way I see it, here, money seems to be the only cure for anything. Yet, just a few hours away from Washington, D.C., you’ve got places like Austria where anyone with actual skills—and let me be clear, in a capitalist system, "skill" means practical expertise, not some useless degree—can actually afford a decent life.

We ought to respect money and the people who actually generate it—the entrepreneurs. So why is the narrative here always about how the future belongs solely to the "educated"?

And I'll say it again: money is merely a tool. Any society that refuses to accept that reality... well, they might as well surrender to its power. They certainly don't deserve anything else.

Agreed
That bolded part—every time I read something, they always bring up those "wealthy entrepreneurs." Makes me wonder, what did they actually build that justifies all this media hype in such a weird context???

To me, money is just a necessary evil. Enough to have a roof over my head, and that’s it. When I have a little extra cash, I love treating people to small things, but when I'm totally broke—well, I'm broke.

I've been there—having plenty of dough and also being completely broke, barely scraping by. But I've always been the same person. In the bad times, yeah, maybe a bit more stressed, but I've never chased status symbols or tried to hang with the rich crowd. My character hasn't changed—never became pretentious or thought I was "somebody" special.
I agree that money equals more power, but more power means double the responsibility.

So, as weird as it sounds, that's way more of a priority for me than the cash. The best things in life are not things 😍
Elizabeth Carter6 Elizabeth Carter6 Member
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#50 ·
God’s definitely on the side of the wealthy.
Benjamin King17 Benjamin King17 Member
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#51 ·
Steven Wood72 said:Money isn't some kind of evil—you should actually be striving to stack as much of it as possible. No matter how much you have, there's always more to get, and that’s exactly how you need to approach it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wealth, provided it's earned legally. Of course, money carries massive weight and immense power; that has always been the case, and it's perfectly normal. Now we get all these tired clichés about how "money can't buy happiness" and whatnot... but honestly? I believe 99% of people are significantly happier with money than without it.

The issue is that many people assume driving a luxury car or wearing designer labels will automatically make them happy... But those things don't necessarily provide lasting fulfillment.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#52 ·
I honestly think true happiness comes from what's going on inside you, provided you actually listen to your gut and follow it. It’s never about the stuff "out there" or all that material clutter.
Kenneth Jackson30 Kenneth Jackson30 Member
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#53 ·
What kind of power are we talking about here? Power over whom—ourselves? I’m not talking about being dirt poor, where you can’t even put food on the table... there are plenty of people who are perfectly content and smiling just because they have enough for their daily Starbucks, a decent meal, and the bills. That’s enough to be happy, honestly. But then I have this friend who feels this absolute, unrelenting need to buy something new every single weekend—a designer handbag, some new clothes, you name it. If that’s what she calls having power, then fine, I guess power is🙂.
Steven Sanchez28 Steven Sanchez28 Newcomer
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#54 ·
Oh, please. We don't need money at all. Honestly, we could all just live peacefully without a single cent. In fact, I want to personally challenge everyone who keeps citing those "back-to-nature" survivalist groups to actually go ahead and do what they claim is so wonderful. Go ahead—abandon the cities, ditch the internet, and walk away from the comforts of modern life. Head out into the deep woods to hunt game, completely unburdened by the weight of debt, bills, or the crushing stress of our capitalist society. Yeah, right. It’s a lot easier to type that nonsense on a keyboard from the comfort of your climate-controlled living room.

Money isn't everything in life. Look, I'm not exactly obsessed with it myself. But let's be realistic for once: you can't survive without it. That's just the reality of the world we live in. Some people argue that money only provides freedom. *Only?* Give me a break. Freedom is a massive advantage. It's a huge deal, it's not just some minor perk.

I still remember back when I was a college student, practically broke. A friend of mine called me up to head down to the coast for a trip—it was him and his girlfriend, and me and her sister. We were going to split all the costs, which sounded amazing to me. I tried everything humanly possible to scrape the cash together, but I just couldn't make it happen. Even though he offered to help me out, I had to prioritize my actual school expenses. So there I was, sitting on a bench outside the university building feeling totally gutted, while two guys sitting next to me were preaching the exact same sermon: "Money doesn't matter, you can achieve anything without it." I swear, I wanted to deck them right then and there. 😁

Most of us have stories just like that.

Everyone judges based on their current perspective. Take the average middle-class person, for example—they compare themselves to the ultra-wealthy. Sure, from that viewpoint, I wouldn't want to be a billionaire either. Having enough for a decent, normal life is plenty. But why don't you try comparing yourselves to the people living in poverty or those who are truly struggling? When the utility bills pile up and you're staring down an empty bank account, even love starts to feel different.
swiftsurfer27 swiftsurfer27 Active Member
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#55 ·
Steven Sanchez28 said:Oh, please. We don't need money at all. Honestly, we could all just live peacefully without a single cent. In fact, I want to personally challenge everyone who keeps citing those "back-to-nature" survivalist groups to actually go ahead and do what they claim is so wonderful. Go ahead—abandon the cities, ditch the internet, and walk away from the comforts of modern life. Head out into the deep woods to hunt game, completely unburdened by the weight of debt, bills, or the crushing stress of our capitalist society. Yeah, right. It’s a lot easier to type that nonsense on a keyboard from the comfort of your climate-controlled living room.

Money isn't everything in life. Look, I'm not exactly obsessed with it myself. But let's be realistic for once: you can't survive without it. That's just the reality of the world we live in. Some people argue that money only provides freedom. *Only?* Give me a break. Freedom is a massive advantage. It's a huge deal, it's not just some minor perk.

I still remember back when I was a college student, practically broke. A friend of mine called me up to head down to the coast for a trip—it was him and his girlfriend, and me and her sister. We were going to split all the costs, which sounded amazing to me. I tried everything humanly possible to scrape the cash together, but I just couldn't make it happen. Even though he offered to help me out, I had to prioritize my actual school expenses. So there I was, sitting on a bench outside the university building feeling totally gutted, while two guys sitting next to me were preaching the exact same sermon: "Money doesn't matter, you can achieve anything without it." I swear, I wanted to deck them right then and there. 😁

Most of us have stories just like that.

Everyone judges based on their current perspective. Take the average middle-class person, for example—they compare themselves to the ultra-wealthy. Sure, from that viewpoint, I wouldn't want to be a billionaire either. Having enough for a decent, normal life is plenty. But why don't you try comparing yourselves to the people living in poverty or those who are truly struggling? When the utility bills pile up and you're staring down an empty bank account, even love starts to feel different.

Well put.

However, I believe we can start with much smaller steps. Take food, for instance... if you have a garden, you might strike a deal with a neighbor. You provide the potatoes, they provide the tomatoes. Or perhaps I watch your kids while you tend to my garden, or I tutor someone in English while they fix my car. There are countless scenarios where service-for-service exchanges can flourish. Beyond the utility, it allows us to practice genuine human connection without any middleman involved.

Given the current trajectory—where wages are stagnating even as prices and taxes continue to climb—I suspect we will eventually be "forced" to rely on these kinds of small, community-based exchanges just to get by.
Charles Carter3 Charles Carter3 Newcomer
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#56 ·
Here’s a LINK that lays it all out perfectly—it’s not actually money that's the root of all evil, it's the obsession with it. Definitely worth a read. Just a heads-up though—don't let the Bible stuff throw you off; the guy's an ex-pastor turned yuppie. He isn't preaching any religious brainwashing, just explaining how chasing cash feels like a shortcut to happiness and power, when it's really just a trap we all fall into. If we shift our mindset, we'll see that money becomes the problem because we're too attached to it (whether we realize it or not). If we handle it differently and invest in smarter things, it just becomes a tool to live a decent life.
The Wall Street way of thinking might bug you a bit since he repeats himself, but honestly, after checking it out, I'm telling you: money and power aren't always joined at the hip.
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
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#57 ·
Money comes and goes. Honestly, I don't care about being loaded—as long as I can cover my bills and keep things running, I'm good. At the end of the day, my health is what actually matters most 🙂
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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#58 ·
Lawrence Wells said:Money comes and goes. Honestly, I don't care about being loaded—as long as I can cover my bills and keep things running, I'm good. At the end of the day, my health is what actually matters most 🙂

But honestly, having cash definitely helps when it comes to staying healthy. When you have it, you can afford better food and live a little better. Plus, if things go sideways, it’s way easier to grab meds or pay for a procedure. You know, all that stuff.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#59 ·
Money is a great servant, but a terrible master. It grants you this kind of leverage purely because a massive amount of people collectively decide to believe in its worth—otherwise, we’d all just be staring at scraps of paper. It's the idea itself that carries the weight, really.
Douglas Rivera6 Douglas Rivera6 Newcomer
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#60 ·
The real trouble starts when money begins calling the shots and actually starts running your life instead of the other way around.
But honestly, having zero cash is just as much of a nightmare. If you’re just looking out for yourself, fine—if I’m broke, I’ll skip a meal or pass on buying new clothes, and I might even dodge the dentist, even if it means freezing my butt off because I can't afford to turn the heat up. That's just me being stubborn.
But everything changes once you have someone else depending on you, because it’s a whole different ballgame when it's not just about your own comfort. If your kid needs a filling or braces, you’ve got to pay up, because you can't just rely on some government program to cover everything. Or when winter hits and everyone’s catching colds and needing doctor visits and prescriptions.
Then there’s the back-to-school madness with all the textbooks, notebooks, and supplies piling up.
And look, I'm not talking about any fancy luxury stuff here; seriously, if anyone has figured out how to manifest basic necessities through pure willpower, please let me know.
We could go on forever about money, and yeah, we all know that being rich doesn't automatically make you happy. Money is supposed to be a tool to make life easier, but is it really just that?
I guess everyone’s got their own take on that.
I’m not rambling about massive windfalls, like some multi-billion dollar stimulus package meant to fix the national deficit or build fancy stadiums and buy luxury cars.
I’m talking about the grind of daily life, where you need a certain amount of cash just to keep the lights on every single day.
The fact that people manage to survive without a fortune just shows how resilient Americans are, because if it were truly impossible to live without wealth, half the country would have folded by now. But we’re still here, laughing, talking, and moving forward.
Still, saying that money doesn't matter at all...🤷

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