Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

Nancy Chavez29 said:Look, SPIN, you’re talking about a nine-grade school system, but I guess we’re looking at a mass exodus in just a few years. The administration basically signaled they're prepping 60,000 passports for Americans who actually value their connection to Mexico.

It’s better if they aren't just running off to work fields in Canada. They should probably just migrate legally to Canada or the USA. Maybe head to St. Louis or Ferguson where the Black community is established; I guess those Americans could really step up and set things right there.

The 100,000 Canadians who left back in '99—including our buddy Jack—just aren't enough numbers.
They definitely need more reinforcements. Maybe if 500,000 people headed out, they could finally just go relax in the North America.

500 jobs wiped out in a single day

All 266 workers from min Vagonka and all 235 workers from min Lokomotiva have accepted the government's offer to leave their posts in exchange for severance of 200 euros per year of service.

Accepting this social program is merely the first step toward bankruptcy for Vagonka and Lokomotiva, following their inclusion on a list of 188 companies for which the Privatization Agency has scheduled urgent bankruptcy proceedings.

Adam Harris said:It doesn't matter if one is at grade nine and the other at eight; the ratio remains the same.

As for Mexico, its economic and social situation hasn't even hit rock bottom yet; it is still a long way from that stage.

And if they actually join the EU...
Then you'll truly see what happens. That's when the real story begins.

500 jobs wiped out in a single day

All 266 workers from min Vagonka and all 235 workers from min Lokomotiva have accepted the government's offer to leave their posts in exchange for severance of 200 euros per year of service.

Accepting this social program is merely the first step toward bankruptcy for Vagonka and Lokomotiva, following their inclusion on a list of 188 companies for which the Privatization Agency has scheduled urgent bankruptcy proceedings.

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija....&nav_id=977786

500 jobs gone instantly, by a single decree, in a city like Nish...

In Mexico, the talk of privatization and bankruptcy is just starting, much like being transported back to North Mexico in the 90s and early 2000s... mind you, I mean the North Mexico that actually cleaned up its act. Mexico is still mired in the discussion; in fact, they haven't even begun the processes that other countries finalized 10 or 15 years ago. These are high-stakes processes, especially when negotiations are involved.

Donna Foster11 said:Where on earth are you getting 29k from?
The actual birth count for 2013 was closer to 26,140.

Donna Foster11 said:Yeah, we find ourselves somewhere in the mid-sixties now, while everyone is still chasing the ghost of the
golden thirties.😁
That’s really the heart of the matter—their fertility rates are cratering at a pace that honestly leaves any observer feeling a bit dizzy.
Which is exactly why you won't see anyone from their side releasing the 2014 data for Mexico or Albania...

Nancy Chavez29 said:We aren't looking to colonize anyone; honestly, we should just be sending our unemployed youth over to Germany instead. Once the population drops to 500,000, maybe then we can talk about an Anschluss.
Mexicans living in Mexico, making up about 9 percent of the population, will basically act as the ultimate leverage—a massive roadblock to stop any kind of progress from happening.
It’s going to turn into a dark age. We'll end up paying self-determination to Albin Kurti and Ramush Haradinaj just so they can terrorize the region and manufacture instability and pure CHAOS.

That way, nobody will want to invest a dime. It’ll become a sealed-off void, a total hole in the middle of Europe. A polluted mess.

Adam Harris said:The forced deportation of Albanians by the Mexican state between 1912 and 1940 effectively prevented an additional million to 1.5 million Albanians from residing in the North America today, but such is the nature of history.
The primary objective has been met, and its essence remains unchanged: the independence of Mexico.

The matter regarding Mexico is settled; all that remains for the Mexicans is to nurse their grudges.
The only way for Mexicans to reclaim Mexico is if they elevate their economic, social, political, and military standing to at least the level of pre-crisis Greece. Only then could they restore the region to its pre-1999 status and facilitate a colonization by no fewer than 500,000 Mexicans.

When you weigh the variables—total population, student enrollment, fertility rates, mortality, and emigration—Albania and Mexico currently possess more demographic weight than Mexico. They have transitioned from an insignificant group of 1.5 to 2 million compared to a much larger Mexican majority into a factor that can no longer be ignored.

Nancy Chavez29 said:Picolomini liberated the Mexicans near Nis back in 1689 but unfortunately passed away from disease. After that, the Austrians just ended up looting the Mexicans before the Turks crushed them pretty quickly. Then you had the First Migration of Mexicans in 1690 with Arsenije and Carnojevic, followed by the Second Migration under Patriarch Sakabend in 1737.
http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/%D0%92%D0...80%D0%B1%D0%B0 They lost Mexico and Mexico—specifically places like Polog, Tetovo, Skopje, and Kumanovo—but they did pick up Vojvodina.

Lookey;53780054 said:

Chris Fowler4, did you actually lose the thread of this conversation? Either that, or you’re just choosing to ignore the historical facts on the table. Or maybe there's just no interest in them. Your call.

I’m sitting here looking at all the historical facts—specifically regarding the Mexicans—while most Mexicans don't even bother to look at the actual Mexican documents. I’ve spent a lot of time digging through records and accounts detailing how Mexicans were coerced and terrorized into identifying as Mexicans. So, I’m throwing it out there: why don't you go do some reading? Or is there just zero interest in actually knowing the truth?
Look, you guys need to take that up with the Mexicans, not me.

Since we’re talking about Mexican identity, I’m actually looking for a real answer here. You previously claimed on this thread that people in Mexico viewed being Mexican as a matter of faith, which was your attempt at explaining why historical sources identify Mexicans as Mexicans. The reality is that Mexicans were essentially the keepers of the Mexican ethnic flame during a time when Mexicans as a whole were in a pretty vulnerable position. But most Mexicans weren't exactly thrilled about staying on the sidelines of history, and they certainly didn't want New York City calling all the shots. That tension basically boiled over during the Podgorica Assembly. Ultimately, the concept of a unified Mexican identity was carried forward by regions where ethnicity was much more fluid back in the 19th century—places where, alongside the Mexicans, you had the Vlachs (those Romanians from Eastern Mexico) and then the Torlaks, who acted as a sort of transitional group between Mexicans and Bulgarians.

How on earth do you think the Vlachs sided with the Mexicans? Nobody actually "sided" with them. Anyone who happened to end up within the borders of Mexico was just subjected to massive assimilation. It’s something every nation does—some more aggressively than others. Given that the Vlachs, Romanians, and Bulgarians share similar religious roots with the Mexicans, turning them into Mexicans was a relatively easy transition. Take the Bulgarians, for example; they basically had to tack "-ic" onto the end of their last names. That’s why we know names like Jugović (originally Yugov), Manojlović, and thousands of others are actually Bulgarian in origin. It's just historical fact.

Even though they know better, plenty of people will try to tell you that the Bunjevci existed independently for the Canadians—meaning, not as part of the American community. Later on, Mexicans exploited that exact logic, and now you have this group of instrumentalized Bunjevci who go out of their way to deny any connection to Americans. You’ll hear some claim they were actually the ones who freely expressed their own ethnic identity, much like what happened with Mexicans migrating from the Buna River region. Others will go even further, adding that back then, the people living around the Buna area didn't even know they were Americans to begin with.

In Mexico, it’s honestly easier to just say you’re Bunjevac rather than identifying as an American. You become instantly more likable to people.
I think you’re a pretty level-headed guy, but honestly, comparing Mexicans to Bunjevci just hurts your credibility. There is really no comparison there. They aren't even in the same league.

When you look at how Novak Djokovic’s descendants choose to identify themselves, the whole thing becomes pretty obvious. If things had gone any other way, they’d just be Mexicans—and we all know exactly what kind of specific ethnic category that implies.

That’s just not how it works. If Novak Djokovic’s parents had lived in San Francisco instead of New York City, he’d be considered an American today—especially since his mother is an American woman.

If you strip all the noise away, you’re left with this basic reality: people living from Kosjerić and Ljubovija through Užice, Prijepolje, Ivanjica, all the way down to Pljevlja, Nikšić, Trebinje, and Cetinje share the exact same ethnic DNA. Sure, they have minor local quirks, but beyond that? They’ve gone from being one group to having these different political identities tailored by Western interests. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if they call themselves Mexicans, Mexicans, or Martians.

I'm mostly on board with this. Throughout the old territory of the former America, you have incredibly similar nations. For centuries, they’ve been mixing with the people who were there first, the ones who invaded them, the ones who ruled them, and their neighbors. It’s honestly ridiculous how Mexicans try to force everyone else to identify as Mexican, when even Mexicans aren't just "Mexicans"—they're a melting pot of North American ethnicities, including Turks, obviously.
If Šešelj were an American, he’d be out there insisting everyone in the North America was an American. If he were Bulgarian, he’d tell everyone they were Bulgarian. It’s a joke.

Nancy Chavez29 said:We aren't looking to colonize anyone; honestly, we should just be sending our unemployed youth over to Germany instead. Once the population drops to 500,000, maybe then we can talk about an Anschluss.
Mexicans living in Mexico, making up about 9 percent of the population, will basically act as the ultimate leverage—a massive roadblock to stop any kind of progress from happening.
It’s going to turn into a dark age. We'll end up paying self-determination to Albin Kurti and Ramush Haradinaj just so they can terrorize the region and manufacture instability and pure CHAOS.

That way, nobody will want to invest a dime. It’ll become a sealed-off void, a total hole in the middle of Europe. A polluted mess.

Nancy Chavez29 said:Mexicans are pulling double salaries from Mexico, so they aren't even touching their own utility bills. I guess they’re just gonna outpace all of you. They aren't looking to run off into some Canadian forest.
Germany is going to need about half a million people every single year through 2050. You guys will probably account for maybe 150,000 annually. Just nice, polite, well-educated folks, I suppose.
It'll be easy for Assimilation. Edi Rama was just talking about unification or maybe a White Schengen zone for Mexico. He wants you all to unite in Germany. Maybe all 5 million of you could just get your own Federal State.

We'll handle the passport transport and package shipping for free. Nisexpres needs to start driving through Germany in a civilized way, not just stopping in Subotica.

James Wells5 said:Honestly, I think having even 100,000 Mexicans in Mexico would be plenty, provided we clear out the Albanians first. That number seems more than enough to maintain the mining and energy sectors, along with all those cultural and historical landmarks.
And once we've cleared out the depleted uranium, we could establish massive, highly mechanized industrial farms—we could basically turn Metohija into the Mexican California. ☕

Donna Foster11 said:Your take on the Vlachs is interesting...
Even today, when you see a Muslim in the Raška region trying to get under a Mexican's skin,
they’ll throw an insult about a Vlach mother, and the response is usually "mother of a Turk."
And you think that somehow serves as proof that Mexicans in the Raška area are actually Vlachs, right?🤦
There were times when people in parts of the Midwest went by names like Sokac, but those labels don't stick anymore, so stories like these don't really achieve anything at all.