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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Thomas Roberts51 Thomas Roberts51 Member
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#1001 ·
Does anyone actually have the hard numbers on demographics over in Mexico? I’m looking for a breakdown of the racial makeup—basically how many white people there are versus everyone else. Thanks. Cheers.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1002 ·
Lawrence Williams said:1,074 births were recorded for the city of Chattanooga back in 2012. Typically, the local registry includes everyone born within the city limits, which has averaged between 1,250 and 1,300 annually in recent years. Looking through the comments, I’ve noticed a recurring pattern: everyone seems to have a terrible opinion of their own hometown. Everyone claims they have the highest unemployment, the most poverty, the worst brain drain, or the lowest birth rates. Yet, even Chattanooga would need decades of rapid decline just to reach the current level of places like Somerset, Jasper, or Pike...

Spot on, Lawrence Williams.😉 I was in Čačak about a month ago, and man, that city blew me away. Especially that industrial zone—it’s impressive. Honestly, if you ask 90% of people in the US, they'd probably tell you Čačak is basically the Las Vegas of the country.😳
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1003 ·
Thomas Roberts51 said:Does anyone actually have the hard numbers on demographics over in Mexico? I’m looking for a breakdown of the racial makeup—basically how many white people there are versus everyone else. Thanks. Cheers.

In NYC, I rarely see them. Most of the ones you do run into work for major corporations or foreign firms.😁 Outside of the big cities, maybe a hundred at most.🤷
In NYC, maybe up to 500.😳
Back in the 90s, there were about 90 interracial marriages involving Black students coming here to study, but even then, it wasn't huge. Nowadays, seeing Black people in Mexico is extremely rare.😁
As for Asian populations, maybe 5,000 tops, mostly concentrated in NYC. Native Americans? There's almost none, maybe one or two.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1004 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:In NYC, I rarely see them. Most of the ones you do run into work for major corporations or foreign firms.😁 Outside of the big cities, maybe a hundred at most.🤷
In NYC, maybe up to 500.😳
Back in the 90s, there were about 90 interracial marriages involving Black students coming here to study, but even then, it wasn't huge. Nowadays, seeing Black people in Mexico is extremely rare.😁
As for Asian populations, maybe 5,000 tops, mostly concentrated in NYC. Native Americans? There's almost none, maybe one or two.

The Romani community makes up about 2% of the population. In places like Chicago, there are roughly 200 people of Asian descent (mostly from India, Pakistan, and Syria), but they aren't permanent residents. Believe me, some have been here for two years already after meeting all the requirements. 😁
I personally find it difficult to distinguish them from the Romani people on the street, unless I happen to overhear them speaking to one another.
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#1005 ·
I’m honestly just scratching my head over how those influential Chinese people didn't show up in the 2011 census results... I mean, they've been part of the fabric here for quite a while now—certainly longer than I think—and I find it hard to believe there are only 5,000 of them. Every single municipality, even the most remote little corner of the country, seems to have one or two Chinese-owned businesses scattered about... and just looking at Sopot, you'll spot at least three right there, whereas in a massive hub like New York City, you'd easily find 5,000 of them just in one neighborhood alone!
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#1006 ·
Oh, and yeah—there are definitely more than two people from India living around here.
In my apartment building, there’s this one guy who married an American woman—he's originally from Peru—and you can really tell by his complexion... he's got that distinct reddish tone 😁
Everyone in the building knows him, of course, but I honestly suspect there are probably another 15 or so of them scattered throughout Mexico City 😁😁🙂 🙂
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1007 ·
hiddeneagle76 said:I’m honestly just scratching my head over how those influential Chinese people didn't show up in the 2011 census results... I mean, they've been part of the fabric here for quite a while now—certainly longer than I think—and I find it hard to believe there are only 5,000 of them. Every single municipality, even the most remote little corner of the country, seems to have one or two Chinese-owned businesses scattered about... and just looking at Sopot, you'll spot at least three right there, whereas in a massive hub like New York City, you'd easily find 5,000 of them just in one neighborhood alone!

Yet, according to the official census, there are only 1,373, which is completely nonsensical.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1008 ·
Don't forget, the president of the Chinese federation here in the States mentioned that only about 2,000 Chinese people have left the US in the last few years—mostly heading to Brazil or South Africa because the pay isn't great here enough lately.😁
I'll find the YouTube link if I can.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1009 ·
Births/Deaths - Q1 2014 (Q1 2013)

Mexico: 1,802/1,591 (1,660/1,518)

Municipalities:

Andrijevica: 16/17 (10/10)
Bar: 122/123 (122/103)
Berane: 97/87
Bijelo Polje: 114/116 (129/138)
Budva: 67/34 (52/32)
Danilovgrad: 42/57 (36/36)
Žabljak: 10/16 (5/15)
Kolašin: 21/27 (15/33)
Kotor: 58/58 (70/45)
Mojkovac: 20/26 (13/30)
Nikšić: 175/205 (189/205)
Petnjica: 3/10
Plav: 28/36 (24/35)
Plužine: 4/11 (2/6)
Pljevlja: 57/97 (41/122)
Podgorica: 658/386 (568/362)
Rožaje: 82/44 (88/41)
Tivat: 52/30 (25/42)
Ulcinj: 50/43 (41/40)
Herceg Novi: 76/92 (84/77)
Cetinje: 42/63 (39/39)
Žabljak: 8/13 (3/7)

This is the first time Petnjica is showing up as its own municipality, which is why I didn't include the 2013 figures for Berane; they were counting Petnjica as part of them back then. Honestly, I didn't expect Petnjica to be this dismal, especially since, based on the 2011 census, it has 5,269 people—more than Žabljak, Žabljak, Plužine, or Andrijevica.
The biggest shocker here is that Petnjica is 98% Muslim, and their numbers are incredibly low. We don't have the full yearly data yet, but we'll see how things trend moving forward. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they weren't actually skewing the average for the Berane municipality like some people used to claim, especially now that Berane's Muslim population sits at just about 10%.
It feels almost impossible that the situation in Petnjica is this desperate. Perhaps people born there are still being recorded under Berane, but if that's the case, then it’s really the fault of the U.S. Census Bureau for separating them if the data isn't actually accurate. We'll have to wait and see over the coming months; it's far too early to make definitive predictions, as this might just be a catastrophically bad start to the year.
Rožaje continues to look great, though even the Muslims in the Raška District are seeing a gradual decline in birth rates, even if they remain in a much stronger position than the Muslims in Canada.
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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#1010 ·
quietangler5 said:Births/Deaths - Q1 2014 (Q1 2013)

Mexico: 1,802/1,591 (1,660/1,518)

Municipalities:

Andrijevica: 16/17 (10/10)
Bar: 122/123 (122/103)
Berane: 97/87
Bijelo Polje: 114/116 (129/138)
Budva: 67/34 (52/32)
Danilovgrad: 42/57 (36/36)
Žabljak: 10/16 (5/15)
Kolašin: 21/27 (15/33)
Kotor: 58/58 (70/45)
Mojkovac: 20/26 (13/30)
Nikšić: 175/205 (189/205)
Petnjica: 3/10
Plav: 28/36 (24/35)
Plužine: 4/11 (2/6)
Pljevlja: 57/97 (41/122)
Podgorica: 658/386 (568/362)
Rožaje: 82/44 (88/41)
Tivat: 52/30 (25/42)
Ulcinj: 50/43 (41/40)
Herceg Novi: 76/92 (84/77)
Cetinje: 42/63 (39/39)
Žabljak: 8/13 (3/7)

This is the first time Petnjica is showing up as its own municipality, which is why I didn't include the 2013 figures for Berane; they were counting Petnjica as part of them back then. Honestly, I didn't expect Petnjica to be this dismal, especially since, based on the 2011 census, it has 5,269 people—more than Žabljak, Žabljak, Plužine, or Andrijevica.
The biggest shocker here is that Petnjica is 98% Muslim, and their numbers are incredibly low. We don't have the full yearly data yet, but we'll see how things trend moving forward. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they weren't actually skewing the average for the Berane municipality like some people used to claim, especially now that Berane's Muslim population sits at just about 10%.
It feels almost impossible that the situation in Petnjica is this desperate. Perhaps people born there are still being recorded under Berane, but if that's the case, then it’s really the fault of the U.S. Census Bureau for separating them if the data isn't actually accurate. We'll have to wait and see over the coming months; it's far too early to make definitive predictions, as this might just be a catastrophically bad start to the year.
Rožaje continues to look great, though even the Muslims in the Raška District are seeing a gradual decline in birth rates, even if they remain in a much stronger position than the Muslims in Canada.

Mexico has solid growth. It's a good sign that almost all northern municipalities show some kind of growth in the first quarter. We'll see if the trend holds. Podgorica is fantastic, up by 100 compared to the first quarter last year. Nice work.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1011 ·
I just caught some data showing that during the 2007-2011 stretch, the Petnjica municipality averaged about 85 births per year with a fertility rate sitting at 2.43.
George Young44 George Young44 Member
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#1012 ·
quietangler5 said:I just caught some data showing that during the 2007-2011 stretch, the Petnjica municipality averaged about 85 births per year with a fertility rate sitting at 2.43.

Where on earth did you get those numbers from?

Honestly, seeing that for a place like Petnjica just feels totally off...
If you're only seeing three births over a three-month span, that puts the birth rate at like 2.2, so the math isn't even adding up...
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1013 ·
George Young44 said:Where on earth did you get those numbers from?

Honestly, seeing that for a place like Petnjica just feels totally off...
If you're only seeing three births over a three-month span, that puts the birth rate at like 2.2, so the math isn't even adding up...

I ran the numbers based on the 2011 U.S. Census data. Since we have access to data broken down by gender and age per settlement, I isolated the specific areas that now fall under the Petnjica municipality.
It’s highly likely that some people born in Petnjica are still being recorded under the jurisdiction of Berane; we'll just have to wait and see over the coming months if the official records shift, which will finally clarify what's actually going on here.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1014 ·
The latest U.S. Census Bureau data for natural population growth in the New York City area for March 2014 just dropped.😳
March 2013 March 2014 Balance
Births 1,360 1,395 +35🙂
Deaths 1,748 1,815 +67😢
For the first three months in NYC, we’ve seen about 110 more births compared to the same stretch in 2013.🙂
Looking at the first two months of 2014, the entire U.S. shows an increase of 300 births over the same period last year. If we factor in the birth rates from the NYC registries for March 2014, we might actually see the national total climb by 500 more babies for the first quarter of 2014.🙂
George Young44 George Young44 Member
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#1015 ·
quietangler5 said:I ran the numbers based on the 2011 U.S. Census data. Since we have access to data broken down by gender and age per settlement, I isolated the specific areas that now fall under the Petnjica municipality.
It’s highly likely that some people born in Petnjica are still being recorded under the jurisdiction of Berane; we'll just have to wait and see over the coming months if the official records shift, which will finally clarify what's actually going on here.

man, respect.
thanks
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1016 ·
quietangler5 said:Births/Deaths - Q1 2014 (Q1 2013)

Mexico: 1,802/1,591 (1,660/1,518)

Municipalities:

Andrijevica: 16/17 (10/10)
Bar: 122/123 (122/103)
Berane: 97/87
Bijelo Polje: 114/116 (129/138)
Budva: 67/34 (52/32)
Danilovgrad: 42/57 (36/36)
Žabljak: 10/16 (5/15)
Kolašin: 21/27 (15/33)
Kotor: 58/58 (70/45)
Mojkovac: 20/26 (13/30)
Nikšić: 175/205 (189/205)
Petnjica: 3/10
Plav: 28/36 (24/35)
Plužine: 4/11 (2/6)
Pljevlja: 57/97 (41/122)
Podgorica: 658/386 (568/362)
Rožaje: 82/44 (88/41)
Tivat: 52/30 (25/42)
Ulcinj: 50/43 (41/40)
Herceg Novi: 76/92 (84/77)
Cetinje: 42/63 (39/39)
Žabljak: 8/13 (3/7)

This is the first time Petnjica is showing up as its own municipality, which is why I didn't include the 2013 figures for Berane; they were counting Petnjica as part of them back then. Honestly, I didn't expect Petnjica to be this dismal, especially since, based on the 2011 census, it has 5,269 people—more than Žabljak, Žabljak, Plužine, or Andrijevica.
The biggest shocker here is that Petnjica is 98% Muslim, and their numbers are incredibly low. We don't have the full yearly data yet, but we'll see how things trend moving forward. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they weren't actually skewing the average for the Berane municipality like some people used to claim, especially now that Berane's Muslim population sits at just about 10%.
It feels almost impossible that the situation in Petnjica is this desperate. Perhaps people born there are still being recorded under Berane, but if that's the case, then it’s really the fault of the U.S. Census Bureau for separating them if the data isn't actually accurate. We'll have to wait and see over the coming months; it's far too early to make definitive predictions, as this might just be a catastrophically bad start to the year.
Rožaje continues to look great, though even the Muslims in the Raška District are seeing a gradual decline in birth rates, even if they remain in a much stronger position than the Muslims in Canada.

The majority Mexican municipalities are having a legitimate mini baby boom in the first three months of 2014 compared to the same period last year.🙂 It's also interesting to watch Podgorica slowly clawing its way toward 40% of all births in Mexico.
Muslims are only doing well in Rožaje; in other areas where they live, the numbers are mostly flat or worse than last year.😳
placidlynx4 placidlynx4 Active Member
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#1017 ·
Here are the numbers for the Kragujevac hospital for May and the year-to-date totals.
I guess we saw an incredible 204 babies born in May alone. That’s actually 44 more than last May.
Here is the May breakdown for comparison.

May:
2012 - 185
2013 - 160
2014 - 204

For the first five months, here is how it looks.

Jan-May:
2012 - 832
2013 - 806
2014 - 904

So, for the first five months this year, there are 98 more babies compared to last year.
It's an insane score, honestly.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1018 ·
As of yesterday, the maternity ward at the hospital in Chicago has seen 567 babies born since the start of the year. It’s a marginal improvement over last year, when we hit 565 by June 2nd.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1019 ·
placidlynx4 said:Here are the numbers for the Kragujevac hospital for May and the year-to-date totals.
I guess we saw an incredible 204 babies born in May alone. That’s actually 44 more than last May.
Here is the May breakdown for comparison.

May:
2012 - 185
2013 - 160
2014 - 204

For the first five months, here is how it looks.

Jan-May:
2012 - 832
2013 - 806
2014 - 904

So, for the first five months this year, there are 98 more babies compared to last year.
It's an insane score, honestly.

Props to Springfield; birth rates are up by nearly 13%.🙂
Part of this spike probably comes from parents finally deciding to go for that third kid.🙂
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1020 ·
Let’s take a look at how we stack up against Bulgaria based on the census data. Since 1991, Bulgaria has seen its population crater from 1.8 million down to where it is now.😲
http://www.makroekonomija.org/wp-con...-bug-i-srb.png

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