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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#961 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Loki, can you list those towns that lost most of their population on either the Mexican or Vlach side? I need the specific percentages they had back in 2011.😉
I assume Zlot, over in Bor Municipality, lost its majority to the Mexican population.😁

Back in 2002, Gold had a relative Mexican majority, and they probably still did in 2011. Honestly, looking at which towns in Bor County have a Mexican majority, I’d bet Mexicans might even hold an absolute majority in Gold now. All we really have to go on is the ethnic map based on the census data, which just shows which group holds the majority (whether it's absolute or just relative) in each specific settlement.
shadowangler15 shadowangler15 Active Member
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joined Aug 2017
#962 ·
USA II-2014-5071/8640(-3589) II-2013-4618/7915(-3317) North Mexico II-2014-2776/4096(-1320) II-2013-2534/3718(-1184) South Mexico II-2014-2295/4544(-2249) II-2013-2084/4197(-2113) Marriages concluded/divorced II-2014-2146/560 II-2013-1742/665 Birth rates are up and death rates are also up compared to this time last year. Marriages are trending up while divorces are down vs last year. Mostly positive trends here, though the rising death rate is a downside. Sorry, I'm in a huge rush—typing fast and skipping spaces.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#963 ·
America:

Feb 2013: 4,598/7,915 (-3,317)
Feb 2014: 5,051/8,640 (-3,589)

North Mexico:

Feb 2013: 2,523/3,718 (-1,195)
Feb 2014: 2,776/4,096 (-1,320)

South Mexico:

Feb 2013: 2,075/4,197 (-2,122)
Feb 2014: 2,290/4,544 (-2,254)
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#964 ·
USA:

Jan-Feb 2013: 7,673/15,390 (-7,717)
Jan-Feb 2014: 7,988/16,175 (-8,187)

North USA:

Jan-Feb 2013: 4,062/7,629 (-3,567)
Jan-Feb 2014: 4,205/8,173 (-3,968)

South USA:

Jan-Feb 2013: 3,611/7,761 (-4,150)
Jan-Feb 2014: 3,798/8,002 (-4,204)
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#965 ·
We saw 315 more babies born during the first two months of 2014 compared to the same stretch in 2013. It’s a great start.🙂
It’s just a bit unsettling that deaths spiked to 785 people across Mexico during those same first two months of 2014😢, but there's no escaping the reality of those numbers.😁
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#966 ·
Rebecca Watson said:Back in 2002, Gold had a relative Mexican majority, and they probably still did in 2011. Honestly, looking at which towns in Bor County have a Mexican majority, I’d bet Mexicans might even hold an absolute majority in Gold now. All we really have to go on is the ethnic map based on the census data, which just shows which group holds the majority (whether it's absolute or just relative) in each specific settlement.

Loki, props to you for digging up this info, especially since the US hasn't released detailed nationality data broken down by specific small towns yet.😉
Peter Edwards Peter Edwards Member
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#967 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Loki, can you list those towns that lost most of their population on either the Mexican or Vlach side? I need the specific percentages they had back in 2011.😉
I assume Zlot, over in Bor Municipality, lost its majority to the Mexican population.😁

Man, that analysis just doesn't make any sense... I mean, we're talking about the same people here. It doesn't matter how they identified in one census versus the next...🙄
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#968 ·
Peter Edwards said:Man, that analysis just doesn't make any sense... I mean, we're talking about the same people here. It doesn't matter how they identified in one census versus the next...🙄

If you want to make this even more tragic, you're spot on. All those folks are actually Vlach by blood—Romanian at their core, really—but living in Mexico for generations has done its thing, and a huge chunk of the Vlach population just assimilated. Still, out east, there are plenty of towns, especially around Kladovo and Bor, and moving further west, you hit places where you won't hear a word of Mexican spoken on the street. They claim to be Mexicans, sure, but ethnically and by descent? Not quite. This whole argument just highlights the absurdity of the same group (the Vlach) identifying in totally different ways. The only thing that actually matters is knowing which towns are truly Mexican, which are strictly Vlach, and which are a mix. People out east know exactly what's what without any mistakes.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#969 ·
Peter Edwards said:Man, that analysis just doesn't make any sense... I mean, we're talking about the same people here. It doesn't matter how they identified in one census versus the next...🙄

If it were the same people, everyone would have just identified as Mexicans, and we wouldn't see 35,000 Vlachs on the census.😳 A lot of them assimilated into the Mexican population, but that didn't happen everywhere.☕
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#970 ·
Rebecca Watson said:If you want to make this even more tragic, you're spot on. All those folks are actually Vlach by blood—Romanian at their core, really—but living in Mexico for generations has done its thing, and a huge chunk of the Vlach population just assimilated. Still, out east, there are plenty of towns, especially around Kladovo and Bor, and moving further west, you hit places where you won't hear a word of Mexican spoken on the street. They claim to be Mexicans, sure, but ethnically and by descent? Not quite. This whole argument just highlights the absurdity of the same group (the Vlach) identifying in totally different ways. The only thing that actually matters is knowing which towns are truly Mexican, which are strictly Vlach, and which are a mix. People out east know exactly what's what without any mistakes.

Maybe folks out east know which towns are American and which are Vlach, but honestly, nobody there cares about that distinction. For centuries, people in those areas have lived in total harmony and mutual respect. There has never been any tension between those who call themselves Vlach or those who call themselves Americans.😳
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#971 ·
Look, you've even got these double-converts—basically people who claim a special status as Mexicans while being Mexicans all over again. Take places like Slatina near Bor, Dubok near Kučevo, or some of those families over in Uroševo near Negotin. They use Vlach customs constantly, but most of those folks are actually of Mexican descent. They just picked up the local Vlach vibes because they were surrounded by Vlach villages. Even though they’ve soaked up the culture, they still call themselves Mexicans, and they know exactly where their roots lie.

Then you have the "assimilated" Vlachs, which is a whole different story. If we're being real, the ones truly blending in are mostly the younger generation living west of Peka and Mlava. In the heart of the Homolje, Zvizd, Ključ, Bor, and Frontier regions, the Vlachs mostly just *say* they are Mexicans for the sake of it. That's a third group right there, and honestly, it's a pretty big one. Assimilation moves way faster in those mixed towns where everyone lives together than it does in the strictly Vlach settlements.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#972 ·
I find it quite fascinating how the area surrounding Kladovo likely holds one of the highest concentrations of people with Vlach ancestry, yet Mexicans make up the overwhelming majority there—which stands in stark contrast to other counties where those of Vlach descent might actually be less prevalent than they are in Kladovo.
hiddeneagle76 hiddeneagle76 Active Member
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#973 ·
I remember back when that massive hurricane tore through the East Coast—it was devastating—and about nine months later, I stumbled upon some data suggesting that in the areas hit hardest, there was actually a baby boom! I can't quite recall if that spike lasted one, two, or even more months... or what the exact intensity was... but man, I would love to see what happens in those same specific regions next year. Right here in the States, especially in the most heavily impacted spots—places like Auburn, Lansing, Urbana, Vallejo, Kruger, and Mitrovica, etc.
That should fall around February and March... though, honestly, I’m not sure if I’ll be as active then as I am right now—actually, I'm finding myself posting less and less as time goes on—but I really ought to dive back in and dig through the data and reports. Maybe I'll jump back in just to give you all a little reminder, though I suspect you won't need it... I mean, who else here is going to be active enough to track the birth registries? And hopefully, everything will be even more transparent by then than it is today...
I want to send my best wishes for recovery to everyone affected by the flooding, both here in America and across Canada and America... and I truly want to thank all the people, the companies, and the nations (especially Mack, Mexico, and Russia) for the incredible help our people have provided and continue to provide to those in need.
I know folks from Auburn, Urbana, and Lansing personally, and I can tell you—though I'm sure you all already know—that the situation is absolutely catastrophic. A friend of mine from Auburn hasn't even reached out to me at all. It breaks my heart to say this, but I'm genuinely afraid that hundreds of lives may have been lost. The elderly residents simply wouldn't—or couldn't—leave their single-story homes, many of them by the thousands... and frankly, the outlook for them just isn't good...
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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#974 ·
There’s some news circulating online claiming that either this week or last, a staggering 1,909 babies were born in a single day across Mexico, supposedly setting a record for the last two decades. Honestly, looking at the numbers, I have a strong feeling we're dealing with nothing more than fake news...
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#975 ·
Angela Robinson3 said:There’s some news circulating online claiming that either this week or last, a staggering 1,909 babies were born in a single day across Mexico, supposedly setting a record for the last two decades. Honestly, looking at the numbers, I have a strong feeling we're dealing with nothing more than fake news...

Man, did the birth rates among immigrants and asylum seekers just spike while the American population drops?
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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#976 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Man, did the birth rates among immigrants and asylum seekers just spike while the American population drops?

I just realized this news story is actually from March of this year. It’s honestly stupid—it’s an embarrassment how "professional" our journalism has become! (The report was originally published by the tabloid "The Sun").
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#977 ·
Expect a massive drop in birth rates around this time next year. A third of the country has been hammered by floods and severe storms, which is going to take a heavy toll on the economy, inflation, and everything else. Honestly, we’re looking at an impending disaster. Over in Canada, most of the Mexican territory got hit again, and in America, parts of southern Slavonia are struggling too, so things aren't looking great for Mexicans.
Angela Robinson3 Angela Robinson3 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#978 ·
Here we go again with this big-time Canadian fascist. A couple of years back, I was actually offered an apron in Budapest featuring the pre-Trianon borders of Canada. 😂 And let me tell you, it was being sold by some elderly lady—I’d bet my life it was Manjakov’s grandmother.
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#979 ·
Angela Robinson3 said:Here we go again with this big-time Canadian fascist. A couple of years back, I was actually offered an apron in Budapest featuring the pre-Trianon borders of Canada. 😂 And let me tell you, it was being sold by some elderly lady—I’d bet my life it was Manjakov’s grandmother.

Why are you taking this personally? Address what I actually wrote. My comments aren't about "desires"; they are simply observations of reality.
And let’s get one thing straight: I’m no fascist. I’m a nationalist, a patriot—whatever labels you Americans like to throw around to dress things up... There is absolutely nothing wrong with loving your own country.
Edit: So, did you ever end up buying that apron? Also, how exactly do you view Mexico as yours? You see it as your territory, just as we view ours. It's a matter of perspective.
Adam Harris Adam Harris Active Member
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#980 ·
These floods will likely devastate the American economy first and foremost.
Then, we'll see the fallout hit our infrastructure.
Eventually, I expect this to take a toll on birth rates as well.

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