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Do you consider this country your true home?

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Jesse Ortiz71 Jesse Ortiz71 MemberOP
41 messages
joined Oct 2011
#1 ·
What’s your actual take on this country? Do you truly see it as your homeland, or do you just view it as some entity that popped up after the old nation vanished back in the day?

How do you even justify calling this place home when its whole vibe feels openly hostile toward our heritage? Is it just pure sentimentality talking, or does the name on the map actually matter to you?
Benjamin Reyes52 Benjamin Reyes52 Member
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joined Feb 2012
#2 ·
This country is nothing but a weak, spineless excuse for a nation. It lacks backbone, it lacks conviction, and it certainly lacks any shred of courage. Honestly, the way this government constantly bows down to outside pressure is pathetic—it’s practically submissive. This is a pseudo-state at best, because its leaders don't actually represent the Americans who truly value and respect our sovereignty and our way of life.

The whole system is garbage, from the Republicans all the way down to the Democrats. The people are exhausted and completely manipulated. For fifteen years now, these politicians have been desperately trying to convince us that their actions on the world stage are "normal" or "desirable," when they aren't even close to the truth...

Lately, I’ve been feeling more and more heartbroken for this country and its people (though frankly, I couldn't care less about the politicians). My country is my home and my backyard. It's my land, my crops, my own patch of earth. As for everything else happening out there? I’m done caring.
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 Member
39 messages
joined Feb 2017
#3 ·
So what, are we supposed to just walk away from our country because of one administration? This government can lose its seat in the next election, so they aren't exactly all-powerful. We Americans only have one homeland, and that’s the USA, regardless of who is running things. If we let things get to this point, that's on us for not fighting harder for a better way to run our society.
Jesse Ortiz71 Jesse Ortiz71 MemberOP
41 messages
joined Oct 2011
#4 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:So what, are we supposed to just walk away from our country because of one administration? This government can lose its seat in the next election, so they aren't exactly all-powerful. We Americans only have one homeland, and that’s the USA, regardless of who is running things. If we let things get to this point, that's on us for not fighting harder for a better way to run our society.

Since the year 2000, this country has cycled through three different administrations, and right now we're in the first term of our second president. I mean, seriously, which specific administration or which one of those two presidents can Americans even claim as "ours" anymore?

Acting like the issue lies solely with the Government or some handful of politicians is incredibly naive. This country operates on a political culture that fits its soul perfectly. Every single political party here follows that same playbook, and they do it with the full blessing of the voters at the polls.

It clearly isn't just a problem with one specific leadership group.

It’s pretty obvious this isn't really an American nation anymore, but hey, I respect where you're coming from.
Richard Nelson84 Richard Nelson84 Member
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joined Aug 2013
#5 ·
Not this country. But I’d definitely say America.
To be fair, I’m not really the type of person who gets overly caught up in nationalistic vibes.
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 Member
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joined Feb 2017
#6 ·
The biggest reason why things are such a mess in America today comes down to the Republicans. Instead of actually building a rock-solid foundation when the country was first getting its act together—you know, stopping the looting and actually strengthening our economy—they spent their time stealing from their own people and drowning the nation in debt. If they’re supposed to be the true patriots, where on earth was their common sense?
Taylor Vaughn8 Taylor Vaughn8 Member
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joined Feb 2017
#7 ·
Jesse Ortiz71 said:Since the year 2000, this country has cycled through three different administrations, and right now we're in the first term of our second president. I mean, seriously, which specific administration or which one of those two presidents can Americans even claim as "ours" anymore?

Acting like the issue lies solely with the Government or some handful of politicians is incredibly naive. This country operates on a political culture that fits its soul perfectly. Every single political party here follows that same playbook, and they do it with the full blessing of the voters at the polls.

It clearly isn't just a problem with one specific leadership group.

It’s pretty obvious this isn't really an American nation anymore, but hey, I respect where you're coming from.

Let’s be real: I doubt there’s a single nation on this planet where everyone is actually happy with how things are run. It’s just human nature. Take the situation right now—you’ve got plenty of Americans probably venting and complaining about the possibility of the US getting involved in Syria, but at the end of the day, what can they actually do about it? Not much. The thing is, a country isn't some monolith. It’s built from a massive collection of people who all have completely different worldviews, conflicting ideas, and wildly different visions for how society should function. Because of that, you’re always going to have these fundamental clashes of ideology. Some people want one version of the country, others want something totally different, and then there are those who don't want any part of it at all. That friction is just baked into the system.
stormyseal9 stormyseal9 Member
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joined Oct 2011
#8 ·
Look, I consider this country mine, through and through, but politicians? Not a chance. They aren't "ours" by any stretch of the imagination, and honestly, it kills me just listening to them drone on; they’re only doing the job to line their own pockets. If you ask me, this current administration and the last one are basically cut from the same cloth as those occupiers back in the Sao Paulo era—when you actually dig into it, they share the exact same twisted obsession with tearing down the American state and its people.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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joined Oct 2017
#9 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:The biggest reason why things are such a mess in America today comes down to the Republicans. Instead of actually building a rock-solid foundation when the country was first getting its act together—you know, stopping the looting and actually strengthening our economy—they spent their time stealing from their own people and drowning the nation in debt. If they’re supposed to be the true patriots, where on earth was their common sense?

How are you supposed to fix the economy when a third of the country is under occupation? 🤷
Carl Sanders3 Carl Sanders3 Member
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joined Mar 2013
#10 ·
I consider America my homeland. I don't have any other, but at the same time, I can't bring myself to respect this country while it feels like it’s still being held hostage by the same corrupt interests that have dominated it for decades.
A nation that shields rogue agents and criminals instead of pursuing justice—a place where local officials rub shoulders with actual thugs, and a government that systematically plunders its own people—that isn't my country. It’s nowhere near what it ought to be.☕
Anthony Hernandez2 Anthony Hernandez2 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2013
#11 ·
We should probably throw a poll in here.
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
140 messages
joined Dec 2013
#12 ·
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quietmaker44 quietmaker44 Member
42 messages
joined Oct 2011
#13 ·
Jesse Ortiz71 said:What’s your actual take on this country? Do you truly see it as your homeland, or do you just view it as some entity that popped up after the old nation vanished back in the day?

How do you even justify calling this place home when its whole vibe feels openly hostile toward our heritage? Is it just pure sentimentality talking, or does the name on the map actually matter to you?

Positive. Obviously I call it home. I don't get why anyone would think it's any different just because of what happened in 2000.

Jesse Ortiz71 said:What’s your actual take on this country? Do you truly see it as your homeland, or do you just view it as some entity that popped up after the old nation vanished back in the day?

How do you even justify calling this place home when its whole vibe feels openly hostile toward our heritage? Is it just pure sentimentality talking, or does the name on the map actually matter to you?

That’s total nonsense. It isn't anti-American, that's just hysterical garbage.

Look, nothing is perfect. There are going to be problems—there always are. But I've traveled enough of the world to realize that things aren't nearly as bad here as people claim.😁
Harold Long21 Harold Long21 Member
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joined Jul 2013
#14 ·
Taylor Vaughn8 said:The biggest reason why things are such a mess in America today comes down to the Republicans. Instead of actually building a rock-solid foundation when the country was first getting its act together—you know, stopping the looting and actually strengthening our economy—they spent their time stealing from their own people and drowning the nation in debt. If they’re supposed to be the true patriots, where on earth was their common sense?

Could you walk me through the specific data regarding how much the government went into debt leading up to 2000, versus how much it climbed between 2000 and 2004? Thanks so much.
shadowotter142 shadowotter142 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#15 ·
I haven't felt any sense of belonging here since 2000—and that’s despite living in this country and paying my fair share in taxes. This nation is being run by neoliberal media outlets that have been brainwashing the American public for over thirteen years now. They've successfully turned Americans into lobotomized idiots who have zero pride left and absolutely no core values. That's exactly why the people keep voting for people like that.
mistyotter35 mistyotter35 Active Member
113 messages
joined Mar 2013
#16 ·
I consider this nation my homeland, though I suppose one might argue it has been under the occupation of a treasonous state apparatus from the year 2000 until the present day.
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
378 messages
joined Oct 2018
#17 ·
Of course I feel that way; I don't have a second option.
I was born here and my roots are planted deep, so even if I ended up living somewhere else, this will always be my home.
It’s far from perfect—the political elite are revolting and people treat the laws like mere suggestions—but it's my country, and I don't have any other.
mistygull16 mistygull16 Active Member
199 messages
joined May 2013
#18 ·
mistyotter35 said:I consider this nation my homeland, though I suppose one might argue it has been under the occupation of a treasonous state apparatus from the year 2000 until the present day.

Yeah, I feel you. America is my home, but we’re basically being run by an occupying force—just a bunch of puppets at the top.

It’s hard for me to swallow this whole "economic crisis" line or the idea that politicians are just clueless. Personally? I think they know exactly what they're doing. It's just that the public has no clue what's actually happening behind closed doors. People are convinced there's a 🙂 crisis, but if you ask me, the real issue is that instead of actually making things here, we're just importing everything using nothing but credit!
Jonathan Ortiz2 Jonathan Ortiz2 Member
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joined Dec 2015
#19 ·
I honestly don't even know where to start with Veruda, because at this point, it feels like we're just watching the same slow-motion train wreck happen over and over again. It’s that classic, exhausting cycle where you see something clearly broken, you call it out, and then everyone just shrugs their shoulders like it’s nothing special. It’s pretty much the standard playbook for how things get handled around here—lots of noise, zero actual accountability, and a whole lot of people looking the other way while the mess gets even bigger. Honestly, I'm just too tired to be shocked by it anymore. kaže:
This whole country is just a total pushover, honestly—no backbone, no grit, and absolutely zero courage. It’s pathetic how much this nation loves to bend over and take it, if you know what I mean, just to avoid any kind of friction. We're basically running a pseudo-state at this point because the people in charge don't actually represent Americans or anyone else who actually gives a damn about our sovereignty and respect this land.

The way modern America is being run should honestly be studied in textbooks. It’s all just one big playbook for keeping people quiet—buying off minority groups with endless concessions to maintain a fake sense of social peace, or just throwing money at bloated pension schemes to keep the older crowd from making noise. Throw in some heavy-handed media manipulation on top of that, and you've got a perfect recipe for breeding total social apathy and making sure nobody actually knows what's going on.

Honestly, our country is actually alright. We’re just a bunch of idiots.

Richard Nelson84 said:Not this country. But I’d definitely say America.
To be fair, I’m not really the type of person who gets overly caught up in nationalistic vibes.

I’m pretty damn sure—just based on what little I’ve seen of you here—that you’re more of a true patriot than thousands of people who go around calling themselves Americans these days. Maybe I'm off base, but honestly, it's probably more likely that I'm right than wrong... though, hey, I know I'm hardly the gold standard for measuring anyone, but still.

rowdytiger13 said:Of course I feel that way; I don't have a second option.
I was born here and my roots are planted deep, so even if I ended up living somewhere else, this will always be my home.
It’s far from perfect—the political elite are revolting and people treat the laws like mere suggestions—but it's my country, and I don't have any other.

So, what’s the move when this whole country starts looking like every other place on the map, from the mindset down to the literal aesthetic? It feels like we’re just slowly morphing into a carbon copy of everyone else. We’ve clearly lost that spark—that actual vision of who we want to be or what kind of nation we’re actually trying to build.
Chloe Sullivan88 Chloe Sullivan88 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#20 ·
The America of the nineties definitely wasn't my home.
As for America today? There’s just too much negativity. I find myself drifting further and further away from this country and its people, honestly.
Thankfully, I’m moving abroad again for good, and I don't see any chance of ever coming back.
To be fair, the US isn't my only home anyway. ☕

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