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Are we at our happiest as children?

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Douglas Gray8 Douglas Gray8 Active Member
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joined Jun 2012
#81 ·
Childhood is arguably the worst phase of life. You’re essentially on parole, just not in a literal cell.
There is zero freedom.

-As a kid, you can't even walk to the corner store without checking in, otherwise your parents will call
the local police department on you.
-If you experiment with drinking or smoking, you face strict punishments and conditions.
-You aren't allowed to drive or act like an adult.
-Nobody offers you a job while you're still a minor.
-You can't buy what you want because your parents are your primary bank.😳

Now that I'm grown, things are different. I do what I want, go where I please, and nobody is breathing down my neck.
If I want a drink or a smoke, it's my business. There are no arbitrary rules or mandates.
I drive, I work, I have my own cash, and I don't have to ask permission to buy anything.

Childhood was rough. At least for me.

I used to be dragged to school against my will. I hated studying, and frankly, most of the stuff they forced me to learn
is useless to me now.
I have a career I actually enjoy, I'm hitting my milestones, and I live life on my own terms. That
is what real freedom looks like.
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#82 ·
The entire premise rests on some romanticized projection of a child's psyche—a notion that simply doesn't hold water in the real world.

Childhood is essentially a phase defined by confusion and vulnerability... a time when the mind fixates on trivial nonsense and fears things out of pure instinct, rarely grasping the actual situation at hand or even functioning within any realistic framework beyond basic physiological needs—all due to a literal lack of neurological development, experience, and an understanding of context.

Now, this doesn't mean the same logic doesn't apply to adolescents or adults—it usually does, often even more so—but at least there is some semblance of life experience and a somewhat developed relationship with oneself and the environment. There's a baseline understanding of concepts like frustration or suffering, of one's own desires versus those of others, and a minimal level of self-awareness and tolerance for daily bullshit... plus the actual skill required to deal with it all. With children, for the most part, they don't even possess that foundation.
Casey Gonzalez3 Casey Gonzalez3 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#83 ·
Honestly, looking back, my childhood was such an incredible chapter of my life. It was just one big, happy blur. Then I grew up, met my Mr. B, and man, I’ve been on cloud nine ever since.

vibes.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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joined Sep 2009
#84 ·
placidwolf27 said:The entire premise rests on some romanticized projection of a child's psyche—a notion that simply doesn't hold water in the real world.

Childhood is essentially a phase defined by confusion and vulnerability... a time when the mind fixates on trivial nonsense and fears things out of pure instinct, rarely grasping the actual situation at hand or even functioning within any realistic framework beyond basic physiological needs—all due to a literal lack of neurological development, experience, and an understanding of context.

Now, this doesn't mean the same logic doesn't apply to adolescents or adults—it usually does, often even more so—but at least there is some semblance of life experience and a somewhat developed relationship with oneself and the environment. There's a baseline understanding of concepts like frustration or suffering, of one's own desires versus those of others, and a minimal level of self-awareness and tolerance for daily bullshit... plus the actual skill required to deal with it all. With children, for the most part, they don't even possess that foundation.

Precisely so. I suspect even children understand this intuitively; for if they did not, why would a young boy or girl immediately retort, "I am big!" whenever they are told they are still too small?
shadowridge70 shadowridge70 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#85 ·
John Mendoza13 said:I was sitting there watching some talk show on CNN earlier today, and this guy starts preaching about how the absolute peak of human happiness is found in living purely in the moment. He goes on to claim that children are basically the only ones who actually pull it off, arguing that they’re the happiest beings on the planet because they don't have a single worry in the world under the sun...
Do you guys actually buy that? Personally, I find myself nodding along with his logic; there’s something to be said for the idea that kids are the most content because they aren't weighed down by the baggage of the past or paralyzed by whatever uncertainty the future might throw at them...

I suppose everything boils down to the lens through which you choose to view the world. My own take is that as an adult, you actually have the capacity to reach much higher, far more profound levels of happiness, and arguably, you can find a much more intense sense of joy in the smallest trifles than a child ever could. It reminds me somewhat of the choice presented in The Matrix—taking the blue pill allows you to stay nestled within a comfortable, imaginary bubble where you remain blissfully ignorant and carefree, whereas the red pill forces you to confront the raw reality of things, giving you the hard-won opportunity to fight for a version of happiness that is actually real. Ultimately, the answer depends entirely on which path you decide to walk 🙂

P.S. I might have gotten my pill colors mixed up, so please just ignore 😁
Christian Ramos27 Christian Ramos27 Newcomer
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#86 ·
I can't get behind the idea that childhood is the peak of happiness. Kids are individuals, and they are shaped by their specific families, neighborhoods, or even the country they live in. For me, my youth and adolescence were easily the darkest chapters of my life, defined by fear and physical abuse. Then, the war came along. It’s hard to argue that kids in places like Iraq or Somalia are living their best lives just because they happen to be young. Think about the millions of children lost to predators, the millions trapped in modern slavery, or the countless victims of human trafficking and organized crime. Even here in the States, there are over 100,000 homeless children, not to mention the massive number suffering through domestic abuse behind closed doors. I’ve never bought into the myth that being a child is a universal golden age; for me, and for millions of others, it was the worst part of life. Children are people, and they live according to the reality of their environment.

There is an American version of this clip too, dating back to the 90s. Not a single kid in that video looks happy just because they're a child.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRtvqT_wMeY
crimsonhound4 crimsonhound4 Member
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joined Jan 2013
#87 ·
I think I’m feeling a bit happier these days. Looking back, I was such a timid, shy, and sensitive kid, which I guess really held me back from being myself. I didn't exactly have much freedom back then; I felt like I always had to do exactly what I was told, mostly because I was terrified of getting hit if I didn't comply. Of course, there were some wonderful moments here and there, but I feel like there are so many more of them now 😁
shadowwolf10 shadowwolf10 Newcomer
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#88 ·
John Mendoza13 said:I was sitting there watching some talk show on CNN earlier today, and this guy starts preaching about how the absolute peak of human happiness is found in living purely in the moment. He goes on to claim that children are basically the only ones who actually pull it off, arguing that they’re the happiest beings on the planet because they don't have a single worry in the world under the sun...
Do you guys actually buy that? Personally, I find myself nodding along with his logic; there’s something to be said for the idea that kids are the most content because they aren't weighed down by the baggage of the past or paralyzed by whatever uncertainty the future might throw at them...

Without a doubt.
Children find genuine joy in the smallest things—not that there aren't adults who can still appreciate the little things, though they are certainly a rare breed these days—they just simply exist within the moment. They haven't been burdened by crises, politics, or the endless pursuit of money; none of that matters to them. In my view, a person experiences the true essence of life best when they can tap into that childlike perspective. 🙂
placidmason58 placidmason58 Member
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#89 ·
There truly is nothing quite like the magic of childhood—that pure, unadulterated state of being where even the smallest things spark genuine wonder, where energy seems infinite, and the whole world is viewed through eyes brimming with constant, joyful curiosity. 🙂
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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joined Aug 2016
#90 ·
shadowwolf10 said:Without a doubt.
Children find genuine joy in the smallest things—not that there aren't adults who can still appreciate the little things, though they are certainly a rare breed these days—they just simply exist within the moment. They haven't been burdened by crises, politics, or the endless pursuit of money; none of that matters to them. In my view, a person experiences the true essence of life best when they can tap into that childlike perspective. 🙂

There’s a real truth to that. People always say a kid's soul is basically the purest thing on the planet until they hit about three years old. After that, the ego starts creeping in—all that overthinking, calculating, and constant analyzing begins to "stain" things. But at their core? A child just lives the emotion. They live the moment. That’s why you can’t be around a little kid without catching that spark; you just can't help but feel that positive energy and want to laugh along with them.
Benjamin King17 Benjamin King17 Member
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joined Aug 2013
#91 ·
Eric Gray2 said:But then again, maybe you *do* have a clue. Maybe you know all about that kid in seventh grade, zvonak, who picks on you every single day just because he wants your lunch money or thinks your glasses look weird. Or maybe you already realize that you won't have any friends in class simply because you're Rom.

Like I mentioned before, childhood isn't all sunshine and rainbows—kids deal with their own specific stressors while growing up. For instance, there is a massive social divide between the kid wearing knockoff brands and the one decked out in designer labels; that is just how American teenage society operates... and it’s starting to bleed into kids under ten, too. It used to be that children lived without these kinds of heavy burdens, but things have changed...
Ethan Morales Ethan Morales Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#92 ·
It’s just not true that kids are always happy all the time...
Joshua Cox2 Joshua Cox2 Member
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joined Oct 2013
#93 ·
It really all boils down to whether the parents and the environment around them are actually happy. If they are, then the kid's going to be fine. If they aren't... well, unfortunately, things go south fast.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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#94 ·
Benjamin King17 said:Like I mentioned before, childhood isn't all sunshine and rainbows—kids deal with their own specific stressors while growing up. For instance, there is a massive social divide between the kid wearing knockoff brands and the one decked out in designer labels; that is just how American teenage society operates... and it’s starting to bleed into kids under ten, too. It used to be that children lived without these kinds of heavy burdens, but things have changed...

If I were a wealthy parent, would I really spend my child's future on flashy status symbols? I think not. Is it not far better to possess quiet wealth than to flaunt it for everyone to see? Rather than buying labels, I would prefer to hire elite tutors for the subjects where my child already shows talent, ensuring they truly master those skills. Why should they struggle through subjects that don't come naturally? If they can pass a difficult class with a simple C, I would be perfectly content. However, for the passions they truly excel in, why settle for anything less than an A+?
Benjamin King17 Benjamin King17 Member
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joined Aug 2013
#95 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:If I were a wealthy parent, would I really spend my child's future on flashy status symbols? I think not. Is it not far better to possess quiet wealth than to flaunt it for everyone to see? Rather than buying labels, I would prefer to hire elite tutors for the subjects where my child already shows talent, ensuring they truly master those skills. Why should they struggle through subjects that don't come naturally? If they can pass a difficult class with a simple C, I would be perfectly content. However, for the passions they truly excel in, why settle for anything less than an A+?

I agree that staying under the radar is the smarter way to handle wealth—but the rest of that strategy might backfire. Let's be realistic: the real trouble starts when they hit those teenage years—once the hormones kick in and rebellion becomes the default setting. They aren't going to let you steer their lives that easily, and that's exactly where things start to fall apart...
Jose Morris7 Jose Morris7 Member
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#96 ·
True happiness is found in freedom. As a child, you never really grasp that sensation—that pure rush when you finally crack a massive problem... yet somehow, people never truly grow up. They just spend their lives pining for childhood, dreaming of those days when Mom and Dad handled every single worry, and a little discipline was all it took to keep them on the right track. 😁
graniteangler18 graniteangler18 Newcomer
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#97 ·
Flowers are just the garden's way of dressing up,
butterflies make the flowers pop—and kids? They’re the real magic of this world...
kids are truly the heart of everything.

I just absolutely love kids
that way they see things—that unique perspective
and that pure, total lack of worry
plus, the love you give them? It always comes right back to you.

Life hasn't had a chance to knock them around yet, so there isn't any bitterness inside them.

By the time we hit 30, we've already taken a few hits from life—if not a full-on beating.
It really just breaks you down however it wants.
Kids are just so carefree and... wonderful.
Richard Wells Richard Wells Active Member
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joined Aug 2016
#98 ·
Jose Morris7 said:True happiness is found in freedom. As a child, you never really grasp that sensation—that pure rush when you finally crack a massive problem... yet somehow, people never truly grow up. They just spend their lives pining for childhood, dreaming of those days when Mom and Dad handled every single worry, and a little discipline was all it took to keep them on the right track. 😁

The adults who build the tightest prisons around themselves are the ones doing it consciously. Kids are the most liberated; they’re actually in tune with the essence of living (assuming they aren't dealing with anything truly traumatic).
Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
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#99 ·
This is purely my own take, but for me, it’s a yes—childhood was easily the happiest time of my life.
I was completely oblivious to everything going on around me and all the ugly stuff in the world. No heavy thoughts, no existential dread, just running around and playing.

If someone offered me a choice like in The Matrix—two pills, really. One blue pill that makes me filthy rich for the rest of my life, or a red pill that sends me back to being five years old (and once I hit ten, it just loops me back to five again, forever)—I’d take the red one.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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joined Sep 2009
#100 ·
Benjamin King17 said:I agree that staying under the radar is the smarter way to handle wealth—but the rest of that strategy might backfire. Let's be realistic: the real trouble starts when they hit those teenage years—once the hormones kick in and rebellion becomes the default setting. They aren't going to let you steer their lives that easily, and that's exactly where things start to fall apart...

Is it not true that people obsessed with status symbols essentially attempt to purchase a certain level of obedience from their children?

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