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Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#1 ·
Husbands won't be able to register at the main house while the wife stays at the vacation home:

Robert Rubin stated today in Indianapolis that utility fees are essentially a relic of the old socialist era—which, let's face it, we've moved past—and therefore they should be replaced by a property tax. His goal? To make the American tax system actually transparent so that any entrepreneur out there has a clear, predictable roadmap of what they're dealing with.

Rubin believes this new legislation will effectively shut down fraud attempts. "We can't have situations where a husband is registered at the primary residence while his wife is listed at a seasonal getaway," he noted. Apparently, since we started using Social Security numbers to track everyone, the computer systems have become incredibly pedantic—they flag every single inconsistency. Now, the government knows exactly how much water you use, your electricity consumption, your salary, and where you’re officially living... If a couple wants to live apart, fine, that's their business, but if it's just a paper sham to dodge taxes, they'll be hit with massive fines. According to The New York Times, Rubin insists this isn't a tax hike, just a structural swap.

He expressed confidence that The Cabinet will have the final draft of the property tax bill ready by March, with the congressional debates expected to kick off in April.


On paper, sure, this looks great for the treasury because the state gets to collect more revenue. But honestly? I know several couples who REALLY do live separately despite being married.
For instance, my neighbor—his husband inherited a cottage on the coast and makes his living fishing, while his wife inherited an apartment in the city and works as a nurse. They aren't playing games; they just live different lives.
Jonathan Fisher78 Jonathan Fisher78 Member
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#2 ·
This whole thing about seasonal cottages being rebranded is just a new gimmick. A vacation home has one specific purpose; you can't just suddenly claim it's a primary residence. If someone tries to "reclassify" a cottage as a full-time family home, they should be required to have a formal street address and meet all the local zoning requirements, among other things. I caught this segment on the news the other day where they were interviewing these self-proclaimed "philosophers" who live in little fishing shacks or hunting cabins and insist they're actually permanent residences—I honestly have no clue what kind of logic they're using there. There’s probably a mountain of code violations out there, but I guess nobody is actually interested in writing up the citations.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#3 ·
Jonathan Fisher78 said:This whole thing about seasonal cottages being rebranded is just a new gimmick. A vacation home has one specific purpose; you can't just suddenly claim it's a primary residence. If someone tries to "reclassify" a cottage as a full-time family home, they should be required to have a formal street address and meet all the local zoning requirements, among other things. I caught this segment on the news the other day where they were interviewing these self-proclaimed "philosophers" who live in little fishing shacks or hunting cabins and insist they're actually permanent residences—I honestly have no clue what kind of logic they're using there. There’s probably a mountain of code violations out there, but I guess nobody is actually interested in writing up the citations.

In the cases I've seen, it’s usually a situation involving a historic house out in the countryside and an apartment in the city. That isn't a "vacation home"—that's a heritage property. Or maybe it's just a house built by a local fisherman. My own father used to build houses like that, places he’d retreat to whenever he wasn't working long shifts at sea. Then you have the wives who split their time: staying with the kids in the city most of the week, then heading out to the coast once the husband gets back from his contract. By their logic, that city apartment should be labeled a vacation home since they aren't there constantly! It’s the same deal with that elderly couple I know—they bought a studio downtown just so they’d have a place near the specialists and hospitals during their retirement, even though they spend most of their time at their ranch out west.
The way it should work is they pay the secondary residence tax on the city apartment, not on the main house out in the country.
Jonathan Fisher78 Jonathan Fisher78 Member
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#4 ·
Linić: 'We’re tracking every citizen through their SSN! If a husband and wife pretend to live apart, they'll face massive fines!'

Is this the right link?.... I think what's actually happening here is that a married couple can only claim one primary residence, otherwise they get hit with luxury taxes or even penalties just because a property isn't technically "in use." (But what does "in use" even mean?? Not everyone who owns two houses is looking to run an Airbnb or rent out rooms to tenants.)
If I happen to have a vacation home near Washington, D.C., which is actually a three-story house, and I'm already paying taxes $333, what am I supposed to do—rent it out to someone just because I live in an apartment in Washington, D.C.??
Up until now, that’s exactly what’s been going on—to avoid taxes (around $333 annually), one spouse would register at the vacation home address, essentially claiming it as their primary residence for tax purposes. Because, from what I understand, you can't just claim you live in a seasonal cottage, so local municipalities view that as a bit shady. How many people have done this, or how much money was pocketed (since the law practically allowed it), hasn't been released, but I'd bet my life it's a pretty significant number, maybe several thousand.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#5 ·
Jonathan Fisher78 said:Linić: 'We’re tracking every citizen through their SSN! If a husband and wife pretend to live apart, they'll face massive fines!'

Is this the right link?.... I think what's actually happening here is that a married couple can only claim one primary residence, otherwise they get hit with luxury taxes or even penalties just because a property isn't technically "in use." (But what does "in use" even mean?? Not everyone who owns two houses is looking to run an Airbnb or rent out rooms to tenants.)
If I happen to have a vacation home near Washington, D.C., which is actually a three-story house, and I'm already paying taxes $333, what am I supposed to do—rent it out to someone just because I live in an apartment in Washington, D.C.??
Up until now, that’s exactly what’s been going on—to avoid taxes (around $333 annually), one spouse would register at the vacation home address, essentially claiming it as their primary residence for tax purposes. Because, from what I understand, you can't just claim you live in a seasonal cottage, so local municipalities view that as a bit shady. How many people have done this, or how much money was pocketed (since the law practically allowed it), hasn't been released, but I'd bet my life it's a pretty significant number, maybe several thousand.

Is this a luxury tax or a real estate tax?

Why are you bringing up luxury?
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#6 ·
Jonathan Fisher78 said:Linić: 'We’re tracking every citizen through their SSN! If a husband and wife pretend to live apart, they'll face massive fines!'

Is this the right link?.... I think what's actually happening here is that a married couple can only claim one primary residence, otherwise they get hit with luxury taxes or even penalties just because a property isn't technically "in use." (But what does "in use" even mean?? Not everyone who owns two houses is looking to run an Airbnb or rent out rooms to tenants.)
If I happen to have a vacation home near Washington, D.C., which is actually a three-story house, and I'm already paying taxes $333, what am I supposed to do—rent it out to someone just because I live in an apartment in Washington, D.C.??
Up until now, that’s exactly what’s been going on—to avoid taxes (around $333 annually), one spouse would register at the vacation home address, essentially claiming it as their primary residence for tax purposes. Because, from what I understand, you can't just claim you live in a seasonal cottage, so local municipalities view that as a bit shady. How many people have done this, or how much money was pocketed (since the law practically allowed it), hasn't been released, but I'd bet my life it's a pretty significant number, maybe several thousand.

Personally, I think this will be struck down by the Supreme Court. I mean, how are they going to PROVE it's a scam and not just a legitimate coincidence?!

Actually, a colleague of mine just came to see me at the office about this. He and his wife went bankrupt and are currently living unregistered in some free basement unit—honestly, more like a den than an apartment. His wife's ID is registered in San Francisco, where she shares a small house with her brother. Meanwhile, the husband is constantly in San Diego for work, but he's still using an ID linked to their old place that they sold five years ago. Is that going to be PUNISHABLE now!!!!!!! 😲

WHAT HAPPENS TO SPOUSES WHO DON'T BOTHER UPDATING THEIR IDs TO A JOINT ADDRESS AFTER THEY GET MARRIED!??????????????''🙂
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#7 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Husbands won't be able to register at the main house while the wife stays at the vacation home:

Robert Rubin stated today in Indianapolis that utility fees are essentially a relic of the old socialist era—which, let's face it, we've moved past—and therefore they should be replaced by a property tax. His goal? To make the American tax system actually transparent so that any entrepreneur out there has a clear, predictable roadmap of what they're dealing with.

Rubin believes this new legislation will effectively shut down fraud attempts. "We can't have situations where a husband is registered at the primary residence while his wife is listed at a seasonal getaway," he noted. Apparently, since we started using Social Security numbers to track everyone, the computer systems have become incredibly pedantic—they flag every single inconsistency. Now, the government knows exactly how much water you use, your electricity consumption, your salary, and where you’re officially living... If a couple wants to live apart, fine, that's their business, but if it's just a paper sham to dodge taxes, they'll be hit with massive fines. According to The New York Times, Rubin insists this isn't a tax hike, just a structural swap.

He expressed confidence that The Cabinet will have the final draft of the property tax bill ready by March, with the congressional debates expected to kick off in April.


On paper, sure, this looks great for the treasury because the state gets to collect more revenue. But honestly? I know several couples who REALLY do live separately despite being married.
For instance, my neighbor—his husband inherited a cottage on the coast and makes his living fishing, while his wife inherited an apartment in the city and works as a nurse. They aren't playing games; they just live different lives.

That's fine, provided you can actually prove it... like in your example...

But the whole point is catching the people living under one roof who pretend to be registered somewhere else just to pay lower rates...

Like that situation with Mravko—back when he was living in Washington, D.C., but was officially registered in Stalingrad...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
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#8 ·
Jonathan Fisher78 said:Linić: 'We’re tracking every citizen through their SSN! If a husband and wife pretend to live apart, they'll face massive fines!'

Is this the right link?.... I think what's actually happening here is that a married couple can only claim one primary residence, otherwise they get hit with luxury taxes or even penalties just because a property isn't technically "in use." (But what does "in use" even mean?? Not everyone who owns two houses is looking to run an Airbnb or rent out rooms to tenants.)
If I happen to have a vacation home near Washington, D.C., which is actually a three-story house, and I'm already paying taxes $333, what am I supposed to do—rent it out to someone just because I live in an apartment in Washington, D.C.??
Up until now, that’s exactly what’s been going on—to avoid taxes (around $333 annually), one spouse would register at the vacation home address, essentially claiming it as their primary residence for tax purposes. Because, from what I understand, you can't just claim you live in a seasonal cottage, so local municipalities view that as a bit shady. How many people have done this, or how much money was pocketed (since the law practically allowed it), hasn't been released, but I'd bet my life it's a pretty significant number, maybe several thousand.

How did you manage to interpret it your own way when the headline literally uses the phrase "pretending to live separately"...

PRETENDING... so, cheating the government on taxes and surcharges...
gentleeagle45 gentleeagle45 Member
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#9 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Husbands won't be able to register at the main house while the wife stays at the vacation home:

Robert Rubin stated today in Indianapolis that utility fees are essentially a relic of the old socialist era—which, let's face it, we've moved past—and therefore they should be replaced by a property tax. His goal? To make the American tax system actually transparent so that any entrepreneur out there has a clear, predictable roadmap of what they're dealing with.

Rubin believes this new legislation will effectively shut down fraud attempts. "We can't have situations where a husband is registered at the primary residence while his wife is listed at a seasonal getaway," he noted. Apparently, since we started using Social Security numbers to track everyone, the computer systems have become incredibly pedantic—they flag every single inconsistency. Now, the government knows exactly how much water you use, your electricity consumption, your salary, and where you’re officially living... If a couple wants to live apart, fine, that's their business, but if it's just a paper sham to dodge taxes, they'll be hit with massive fines. According to The New York Times, Rubin insists this isn't a tax hike, just a structural swap.

He expressed confidence that The Cabinet will have the final draft of the property tax bill ready by March, with the congressional debates expected to kick off in April.


On paper, sure, this looks great for the treasury because the state gets to collect more revenue. But honestly? I know several couples who REALLY do live separately despite being married.
For instance, my neighbor—his husband inherited a cottage on the coast and makes his living fishing, while his wife inherited an apartment in the city and works as a nurse. They aren't playing games; they just live different lives.

The side effects of too much DUBAI SUN! 😂🤣😂
Bradley Scott2 Bradley Scott2 Member
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#10 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Husbands won't be able to register at the main house while the wife stays at the vacation home:

Robert Rubin stated today in Indianapolis that utility fees are essentially a relic of the old socialist era—which, let's face it, we've moved past—and therefore they should be replaced by a property tax. His goal? To make the American tax system actually transparent so that any entrepreneur out there has a clear, predictable roadmap of what they're dealing with.

Rubin believes this new legislation will effectively shut down fraud attempts. "We can't have situations where a husband is registered at the primary residence while his wife is listed at a seasonal getaway," he noted. Apparently, since we started using Social Security numbers to track everyone, the computer systems have become incredibly pedantic—they flag every single inconsistency. Now, the government knows exactly how much water you use, your electricity consumption, your salary, and where you’re officially living... If a couple wants to live apart, fine, that's their business, but if it's just a paper sham to dodge taxes, they'll be hit with massive fines. According to The New York Times, Rubin insists this isn't a tax hike, just a structural swap.

He expressed confidence that The Cabinet will have the final draft of the property tax bill ready by March, with the congressional debates expected to kick off in April.


On paper, sure, this looks great for the treasury because the state gets to collect more revenue. But honestly? I know several couples who REALLY do live separately despite being married.
For instance, my neighbor—his husband inherited a cottage on the coast and makes his living fishing, while his wife inherited an apartment in the city and works as a nurse. They aren't playing games; they just live different lives.

Linić is just talking nonsense.
What law actually requires spouses to live under the same roof?
Nowadays, courts rule that common-law relationships are equal to marriage, even if the couple never lived at the same address.

And honestly, even if our government tried to implement something like this, people would just pretend to get divorced. What then? Will they pass a law saying people aren't allowed to divorce?😂
mellowseal1 mellowseal1 Member
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#11 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Husbands won't be able to register at the main house while the wife stays at the vacation home:

Robert Rubin stated today in Indianapolis that utility fees are essentially a relic of the old socialist era—which, let's face it, we've moved past—and therefore they should be replaced by a property tax. His goal? To make the American tax system actually transparent so that any entrepreneur out there has a clear, predictable roadmap of what they're dealing with.

Rubin believes this new legislation will effectively shut down fraud attempts. "We can't have situations where a husband is registered at the primary residence while his wife is listed at a seasonal getaway," he noted. Apparently, since we started using Social Security numbers to track everyone, the computer systems have become incredibly pedantic—they flag every single inconsistency. Now, the government knows exactly how much water you use, your electricity consumption, your salary, and where you’re officially living... If a couple wants to live apart, fine, that's their business, but if it's just a paper sham to dodge taxes, they'll be hit with massive fines. According to The New York Times, Rubin insists this isn't a tax hike, just a structural swap.

He expressed confidence that The Cabinet will have the final draft of the property tax bill ready by March, with the congressional debates expected to kick off in April.


On paper, sure, this looks great for the treasury because the state gets to collect more revenue. But honestly? I know several couples who REALLY do live separately despite being married.
For instance, my neighbor—his husband inherited a cottage on the coast and makes his living fishing, while his wife inherited an apartment in the city and works as a nurse. They aren't playing games; they just live different lives.

I don't see the problem here. Both the husband and wife work in the places where they are registered, so they have a perfectly valid reason for being registered separately. That's proof they actually live apart...

Honestly, this whole thing with residency laws and official addresses feels like total nonsense. I don't even know why it exists, other than to make people wait in long lines at the Department of Justice and pay extra fees whenever they need to update their IDs.
neonwalker95 neonwalker95 Member
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#12 ·
Bradley Scott2 said:Linić is just talking nonsense.
What law actually requires spouses to live under the same roof?
Nowadays, courts rule that common-law relationships are equal to marriage, even if the couple never lived at the same address.

And honestly, even if our government tried to implement something like this, people would just pretend to get divorced. What then? Will they pass a law saying people aren't allowed to divorce?😂

And I don't even know what counts as proof—low water or electricity usage? I only wash myself on Saturdays, pee in the yard, don't use running water, use one single lightbulb, and go to bed early. Apparently, having low consumption means I don't live there.🤣
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#13 ·
neonwalker95 Asks:
I honestly don't even know what they consider "proof" anymore—is it supposed to be low water usage or the electricity bill? Because if we’re playing that game, I’ve got plenty of evidence. I only wash up once a week on Saturdays, I handle my business out in the yard instead of using the plumbing, and I barely even touch the tap. I run exactly one LED bulb in there, and I’m usually tucked in and asleep before most people have even finished dinner. If having minimal utility consumption isn't enough to prove I’m not actually living there, then I don't know what else they want from me. 🤣

I’m honestly sitting here wondering how this "practical verification" is actually supposed to play out in the real world. It sounds fine on paper—very orderly, very official—but let's get real for a second. What happens when the Department of Justice shows up at your front door and nobody is home? In rural areas, that isn't just a possibility; it's practically the standard. People aren't glued to their living rooms waiting for a knock. They’re out in the fields, or maybe they’ve headed into town to grab groceries and won't be back until late tonight. Or, you know, they might just be working a long shift out in the sticks. You can't exactly schedule life around a surprise visit from the authorities, can you? It feels like a logistical nightmare waiting to happen.
If we're talking about an island community, that kind of activity is going to cost the police department a fortune—seriously. Take a look at how things work out here: an island like Manhattan might have its own dedicated precinct, but you don't see that level of coverage everywhere. Most of the other islands—you know, places like the remote spots off the coast—just don't have a station. They're essentially left to fend for themselves when things go south.

I can't believe I’m even looking at this—it’s one of those stories that just makes you want to put your head through a wall. You read these reports in *The New York Times* and you think, "Surely, things can't be this disorganized," but then you see the reality of how the bureaucracy handles basic residency issues. It’s maddening. So, we have this situation where people are essentially being tossed around by the system like ragdolls. There’s this blatant disregard for the Residence Law, and honestly, it feels less like a clerical error and more like a systemic failure. I was talking to a friend over coffee in San Diego last week about how much paperwork it takes just to move apartments, but this? This is next-level incompetence. We’re talking about people trying to establish their lives, following every rule in the book, only to hit a brick wall of administrative nonsense. It brings up a larger question about accountability within the Department of Justice and how they manage these sensitive filings. When the rules are clear, why is the execution so messy? It’s not just about the frustration of the delay—though, believe me, that’s enough to make anyone lose their cool—it’s about the principle of the thing. You expect a certain level of order when dealing with government institutions, especially when your legal standing is on the line. Instead, you get a chaotic mess that leaves everyone involved feeling completely disenfranchised. It’s exhausting, frankly. One would hope for a bit more competence from the folks running the show, but I suppose I shouldn't hold my breath.

So, I was reading through some recent proposals from the Cabinet, and honestly, it’s about time we address this bureaucratic mess. They’re looking at pushing through a new Residency Law that would essentially give the Department of Justice the power to unilaterally deregister people who aren't actually living where they claim to be. Under the current rules—which, let’s be honest, are incredibly outdated—if you have an address registered but you haven't actually set up shop there, the government can't touch you unless you proactively file a request to change it. It's a total loophole. The plan is to ditch the old concept of "permanent residence" entirely and replace it with a single "permanent residency" status. On paper, it sounds like a way to clean up the system, especially when you look at the voter rolls. We're talking about a country of roughly 330 million people, yet the voter registration numbers are consistently bloated because of this exact issue—there are millions of names on those lists that don't reflect reality. Cleaning up the voter rolls would...


It’s pretty much the same thing: I was reading through some recent reports—honestly, it’s enough to make your blood boil if you pay too much attention—regarding these proposed changes to the Residency Law. It seems like the Cabinet is once again tinkering with the fundamental ways we handle legal status and residence, and frankly, I find the whole direction of it deeply unsettling. The core of the issue, as reported by The New York Times, revolves around how these new regulations might tighten the grip on who gets to stay and under what specific conditions. There's this sense of bureaucratic overreach that feels incredibly familiar. I remember back when I was dealing with paperwork for a move across state lines—nothing compared to this level of red tape, mind you—but even then, the feeling of being caught in a web of shifting rules was exhausting. Now, it looks like we're heading toward a system that prioritizes rigid oversight over common sense. It’s one thing to have laws to maintain order, but it’s quite another to create a labyrinth that leaves people scrambling just to prove they have a right to exist in their own communities. You look at the way the Department of Justice is framing these shifts, and it feels less about security and more about control. It’s a mess, really—a complicated, frustrating mess that seems designed to complicate the lives of ordinary people while providing very little actual benefit to the public interest. We should be looking for ways to streamline these processes, not adding more hurdles to an already difficult path.
San Diego—it’s wild when you actually dig into the data. According to the City of San Diego's own records, there are 2,548 registered vacation rentals sitting in their database, but...
It’s honestly infuriating—you have one single property owner footing the entire tax bill while everyone else just claims that same address as their permanent residence to dodge their responsibilities. It's a complete mess.
Look, we all know how this game is played—people shuffle their residency addresses around like a shell game just to dodge their responsibilities. It’s become a blatant way to skirt out of paying property taxes on those vacation homes, and frankly, it’s getting old. Because of that, the administration here in Washington, D.C. is finally stepping in. They’re planning to crack down on this little loophole once and for all to make sure everyone actually pays their fair share.

So, I was reading through some updates from the capital today, and it looks like things are getting a bit more complicated for anyone with a second home out in the suburbs or a vacation spot near the coast. According to Grozdana Perić, the head of finance, simply registering your residency at your vacation house address isn't going to cut it anymore—not as sufficient proof, anyway. It turns out that just having your name on the paperwork won't automatically exempt you from those pesky weekend house taxes. Instead, owners are going to actually have to prove they’re staying there through other means. It’s one of those bureaucratic shifts that feels like they're just looking for more ways to tighten the screws on homeowners—it reminds me of how much more paperwork I had to deal with when I tried to settle my affairs after moving states last year. It seems like the goalposts are constantly shifting, and now, if you want that tax break, you'll need more than just a registration form to back you up.


I suppose I should add a quick postscript—not that I usually care for these little addendums, but there’s a point worth making here before I move on to my next distraction. It feels like we often overlook the finer details in these discussions, much like how people ignore the structural flaws in those old brownstones over in Brooklyn until the whole thing starts leaning—which, by the way, happened to my cousin last summer, and what a headache that was for his insurance agent. Anyway, the point is, don't let the broader strokes blind you to the specifics. We need to stay focused on the actual substance of the matter at hand.
Based on these electricity consumption numbers, they’re going to try and scrub my mother from her permanent address IMMEDIATELY. It’s absolute madness—she uses a certain amount every month, and apparently, that’s enough to make them want to erase her existence from the records. $40 Electricity! Seriously?! I mean, can we talk about this? Is anyone else seeing these ridiculous spikes in the utility bills lately, or am I just losing my mind here? It feels like every time I turn around, the power companies are finding some new excuse to hike up the rates—it’s getting absolutely absurd. I was looking over my statement from last month—and don't get me started on how much they charge just for the "service fee"—and I nearly had a heart attack. It reminds me of that time back in Chicago when the grid went down during a blizzard, only now, they aren't even waiting for a crisis to squeeze us dry; they're doing it while everything is running perfectly fine. It’s just constant. Honestly, at this rate, we’ll all be sitting in the dark by next winter unless something changes. Does anyone actually know if there's any oversight on this, or is the regulatory commission just asleep at the wheel?
Matthew Garcia16 Matthew Garcia16 Newcomer
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#14 ·
I don't think I'll ever be able to get behind this law, because honestly, it doesn't even touch the people sitting on piles of cash or those with massive art collections and luxury watches...

At first, they were talking about it being a wealth tax, but then, out of nowhere, it suddenly shifted into a property tax

Just because someone owns a cabin up in the mountains or a house on the coast—something they might have spent decades building or just inherited from their grandfather—doesn't mean they’re loaded and need to be bled dry
Why on earth should I be forced to rent out my vacation rental?! I really don't want some random stranger sitting in the bathtub where I'm supposed to bathe my own kids later...

Then you look at it from another angle, and there are people with millions of dollars just sitting in their bank accounts, and the government doesn't ask them for a single cent
Some people have paintings hanging on their walls that are worth more than any mountain retreat or coastal condo could ever dream of being

They're just going to strip the middle class down to the bone
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#15 ·
Bradley Scott2 said:Linić is just talking nonsense.
What law actually requires spouses to live under the same roof?
Nowadays, courts rule that common-law relationships are equal to marriage, even if the couple never lived at the same address.

And honestly, even if our government tried to implement something like this, people would just pretend to get divorced. What then? Will they pass a law saying people aren't allowed to divorce?😂

We basically already have that in place.
Since 86% of us are Catholic,
it pretty much doesn't allow for divorce anyway.
The Church (The Cabinet) also 😁
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 RegularOP
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#16 ·
Matthew Garcia16 said:I don't think I'll ever be able to get behind this law, because honestly, it doesn't even touch the people sitting on piles of cash or those with massive art collections and luxury watches...

At first, they were talking about it being a wealth tax, but then, out of nowhere, it suddenly shifted into a property tax

Just because someone owns a cabin up in the mountains or a house on the coast—something they might have spent decades building or just inherited from their grandfather—doesn't mean they’re loaded and need to be bled dry
Why on earth should I be forced to rent out my vacation rental?! I really don't want some random stranger sitting in the bathtub where I'm supposed to bathe my own kids later...

Then you look at it from another angle, and there are people with millions of dollars just sitting in their bank accounts, and the government doesn't ask them for a single cent
Some people have paintings hanging on their walls that are worth more than any mountain retreat or coastal condo could ever dream of being

They're just going to strip the middle class down to the bone

If Todorić is sitting at home with a Mona Lisa worth 20 million euros, he isn't paying a dime in tax on it. Meanwhile, I’ll be stuck paying taxes on a house my great-grandfather built back in 1902 that’s currently valued at maybe 20,000 dollars!! And to top it all off, I'll probably get slapped with a fine just because I live in that house while my wife stays in another.
neonhound19 neonhound19 Newcomer
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#17 ·
All those scammers need to be hit hard—I'm talking heavy fines and actual prison time.

Bandić also went through a technical divorce just to keep the house (he’s a big Catholic, but an even bigger patriot)

Then you've got certain groups who basically just sign papers saying they're separated so the mothers can claim single-parent benefits. Add in the child allowances and social welfare, and they're sitting on a nice little pile of cash.

Honestly, this whole country is just crawling with thieves and criminals.
neonwalker95 neonwalker95 Member
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#18 ·
neonhound19 said:All those scammers need to be hit hard—I'm talking heavy fines and actual prison time.

Bandić also went through a technical divorce just to keep the house (he’s a big Catholic, but an even bigger patriot)

Then you've got certain groups who basically just sign papers saying they're separated so the mothers can claim single-parent benefits. Add in the child allowances and social welfare, and they're sitting on a nice little pile of cash.

Honestly, this whole country is just crawling with thieves and criminals.

American social policy has been tanking ever since those former American refugees arrived. With the one honorable exception being the Americans who moved to Gothenburg back in the 60s. Look, they aren't the only ones to blame, but they might be the most "creative" when it comes to interpreting—or completely ignoring—the law and 😂
Maria Booth96 Maria Booth96 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#19 ·
I’ll never wrap my head around how you can claim to "love" your country while simultaneously dodging taxes. 🤷
It’s just pure hypocrisy to me.

Someone on a forum once wrote in their bio that a person's true character is defined by what they do when nobody is watching. It makes me wonder: how many Americans would actually step up if paying taxes were voluntary? You could lay it all out for people—the way we all think we know everything—and say: "Look, pay your share so we can actually build a functioning society and have a real country to live in. If you don't, our seniors will end up destitute on the streets and we'll be leaving kids to fend for themselves in alleyways."

Seriously, though, how many Americans would actually stay honest?🤷
neonwalker95 neonwalker95 Member
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joined Jul 2018
#20 ·
Maria Booth96 said:I’ll never wrap my head around how you can claim to "love" your country while simultaneously dodging taxes. 🤷
It’s just pure hypocrisy to me.

Someone on a forum once wrote in their bio that a person's true character is defined by what they do when nobody is watching. It makes me wonder: how many Americans would actually step up if paying taxes were voluntary? You could lay it all out for people—the way we all think we know everything—and say: "Look, pay your share so we can actually build a functioning society and have a real country to live in. If you don't, our seniors will end up destitute on the streets and we'll be leaving kids to fend for themselves in alleyways."

Seriously, though, how many Americans would actually stay honest?🤷

We really are the world champions of blending patriotism with cheating the system—exploiting the state down to the last cent. If only we were that thorough in everything else.

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