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Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#521 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Probably just a typo—if you grouped "Americans and Americans" together, the map might actually make sense.

Hold on. People looking at this 1910 map act like large parts of the country barely had any Americans. Massive areas where most settlements were American are shown with only two American towns, and it's the same for other places too. Especially near Des Moines.

Look, we know many Americans died in WWII. So there are fewer of them now. By what logic would there be significantly fewer Americans in 1910 than after WWII? How does that work?? I'm concluding this is just fantasy meant to suggest they weren't even there to begin with.

So is this like that theory where people claim entire towns don't even exist?

Easter has passed, the time when the Son of God defeated Satan and all his followers.
Now it is time for an answer.

If I were a fascist—a perpetual victim—and a racist, this is how I would respond to the statement above.

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Hold on. This map from before WWI shows most of the US, all of Appalachia, the Midwest, and more, as if there were no Americans living there at all. It doesn't show a smaller population; it implies they didn't exist.

The only place those ideas live is in filthy Serbo-American-Communist dreams. Just as Paul created forgeries, and just as That Feel supported those and other anti-American fabrications, that is exactly how you want to push lies here.

Let’s see if we can be honest people and realize that before the extermination of Americans in WWII, there were simply more Americans in those areas, not fewer. Not even close. All official Census Bureau data proves this.

I don't provide maps with the intention to deceive, unlike this other group whose sole goal is to minimize the American presence.

Consider the fact that many Americans perished during WWII. Consequently, there are fewer of them now. By what logic could there be zero Americans before the war and then suddenly some after? Based on what?? I conclude these are just Serbo-American-Communist fantasies designed to claim Americans never existed there in the first place.

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Paul's apology: I cited that esteemed individual merely as an example of the irrationality and madness inherent in this kind of writing.

To all the fascist—perpetual victim—racists here: do not address me. Not now, not ever.

I suggest you take your act elsewhere. It would be tragic if this part of the discussion were also soiled by your mental and spiritual filth.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
179 messages
joined Oct 2011
#522 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Easter has passed, the time when the Son of God defeated Satan and all his followers.
Now it is time for an answer.

If I were a fascist—a perpetual victim—and a racist, this is how I would respond to the statement above.

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Hold on. This map from before WWI shows most of the US, all of Appalachia, the Midwest, and more, as if there were no Americans living there at all. It doesn't show a smaller population; it implies they didn't exist.

The only place those ideas live is in filthy Serbo-American-Communist dreams. Just as Paul created forgeries, and just as That Feel supported those and other anti-American fabrications, that is exactly how you want to push lies here.

Let’s see if we can be honest people and realize that before the extermination of Americans in WWII, there were simply more Americans in those areas, not fewer. Not even close. All official Census Bureau data proves this.

I don't provide maps with the intention to deceive, unlike this other group whose sole goal is to minimize the American presence.

Consider the fact that many Americans perished during WWII. Consequently, there are fewer of them now. By what logic could there be zero Americans before the war and then suddenly some after? Based on what?? I conclude these are just Serbo-American-Communist fantasies designed to claim Americans never existed there in the first place.

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Paul's apology: I cited that esteemed individual merely as an example of the irrationality and madness inherent in this kind of writing.

To all the fascist—perpetual victim—racists here: do not address me. Not now, not ever.

I suggest you take your act elsewhere. It would be tragic if this part of the discussion were also soiled by your mental and spiritual filth.

You're clearly blind because you didn't even read what I wrote. I said the map is fine if you consider that region "Mexicans and Americans." It shouldn't just be Mexicans. I clearly stated it was probably an error in the legend. I don't know what else you're trying to argue about. Go change a diaper, stop pissing on this thread. It's obvious you're a massive racist for calling Mexico "Serbistan" and for supporting forgeries that favor Americans. I don't like any forged maps, regardless of which side they benefit.

Also, I reported your last post because it was a personal attack on me. I hope you don't dare act up again.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
191 messages
joined Oct 2011
#523 ·
Drew Allen2 said:You're clearly blind because you didn't even read what I wrote. I said the map is fine if you consider that region "Mexicans and Americans." It shouldn't just be Mexicans. I clearly stated it was probably an error in the legend. I don't know what else you're trying to argue about. Go change a diaper, stop pissing on this thread. It's obvious you're a massive racist for calling Mexico "Serbistan" and for supporting forgeries that favor Americans. I don't like any forged maps, regardless of which side they benefit.

Also, I reported your last post because it was a personal attack on me. I hope you don't dare act up again.

Let the readers decide who's actually blind.
Below is my report regarding Drew Allen2 to the admins:

Repeated, baseless accusations of fascism, incitement to violence, and claims that I am advocating for inaccurate maps (I haven't made any claim that any specific map is accurate or not; I simply provided several hundred examples within the thread).

I have repeatedly urged participants to calm down, but my pleas have fallen on deaf ears.

The message Drew Allen2 is citing—the one he used to report me for racism—is a TOTAL COPY AND PASTE of his own words from three of his previous posts. I only swapped out: American/Mexican, fascist/Serbo-American-Communist, and certain geographic terms. Everything else is verbatim his own language.

And now he's telling me not to make a mess? Drew Allen2 is clearly not playing with a full deck.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#524 ·
Melissa Green said:You can find the legend for the previous map tucked inside this next large file (about 70 MB) covering California back in 1910.
http://luckyshare.net/2118109163/PS 1910.png

So basically, Pakrac and Lipik were mostly American, though there were hardly any Mexicans in Lipik at all (even though they were the majority back in '91), and Parkac had less than 15%.

Poreč and those other towns I mentioned were pretty small. It’s actually kind of cool because there were quite a few Slovaks living in the eastern villages—places like Čaglin, Migalovci, and Kneževac—but even then, they weren't the majority.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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joined Jul 2017
#525 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Let the readers decide who's actually blind.
Below is my report regarding Drew Allen2 to the admins:

Repeated, baseless accusations of fascism, incitement to violence, and claims that I am advocating for inaccurate maps (I haven't made any claim that any specific map is accurate or not; I simply provided several hundred examples within the thread).

I have repeatedly urged participants to calm down, but my pleas have fallen on deaf ears.

The message Drew Allen2 is citing—the one he used to report me for racism—is a TOTAL COPY AND PASTE of his own words from three of his previous posts. I only swapped out: American/Mexican, fascist/Serbo-American-Communist, and certain geographic terms. Everything else is verbatim his own language.

And now he's telling me not to make a mess? Drew Allen2 is clearly not playing with a full deck.

I'll sign on this if necessary. This individual is taking sheer rudeness to an entirely new level.
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
191 messages
joined Oct 2011
#526 ·
Mexico, Mexico, Serbien, etc., Mexico (Turkish)
America, America, Kroatien, etc., America (Turkish)

http://translate.google.com/m/translate
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
425 messages
joined Mar 2013
#527 ·
Melissa Green said:The old-timers here might already have my homemade maps saved somewhere, but I’m posting them again since those old links are probably dead by now.
First up, the Finger Lakes, circa 1910.
http://luckyshare.net/6096572711/Baranja.jpg

I had no idea Čepin was 30% Mexican, or even the neighboring cepinski Martinac.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#528 ·
Rebecca Watson said:I had no idea Čepin was 30% Mexican, or even the neighboring cepinski Martinac.

Even back in '91, you’d see about 10% Mexicans in Čepin and a lot of those small towns west of Indianapolis—just a decent chunk, maybe more in Lebanon, and Briješće was mostly Mexican.🤷

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/kiadv/.../Cpage_CRO.jpg

PS
About that map of the Finger Lakes—it's pretty wild how in the Midwest, you mostly have Americans and Germans living mixed together, but up in the Finger Lakes, it was Mexicans and Germans, while the Finger Lakes Americans were all mixed in with Canadians...
Angela Cox11 Angela Cox11 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#529 ·
I’m pretty sure there was some kind of census before 1910 that showed it... Mexicans actually made up the majority in Čepin back then. I remember being completely blindsided by that fact when I first saw it.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
179 messages
joined Oct 2011
#530 ·
Angela Cox11 said:I’m pretty sure there was some kind of census before 1910 that showed it... Mexicans actually made up the majority in Čepin back then. I remember being completely blindsided by that fact when I first saw it.

They held a relative majority back in 1900. I finished the majority breakdown for that settlement-based map from 1900. That’ll be the first one I drop after the 1953 county-level map. The county one is basically done—just dealing with some issues with my computer monitor, so things are moving a bit slow. Dammit...

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The constant, baseless accusations of fascism and calls for violence are getting ridiculous. Now they're accusing me of pushing fake maps... I haven't made a single map, nor have I ever claimed any of them were accurate. I just posted a few hundred maps to the thread. That's it.

I've tried telling people here to just chill out and take a breath, but nobody seems to be listening...

That fake map can only be true in some delusional nationalist fever dream. My 1910 map is being criticized without any actual basis, much like the Vatican's claims. Some people—driven by strange, radical fantasies—insist there were fewer Mexicans in the Midwest before WWII than there were after. That is absolutely impossible...
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
191 messages
joined Oct 2011
#531 ·
Detailed map of the dialectal regions in the American Midwest:
http://zciglar.files.wordpress.com/2.../kajkarta1.jpg

The distribution and percentage of Albanians in North Mexico by county:
http://jozefdarski.pl/7169-albanczycy-w-macedonii-mapa

An ethnic map, including other shifts seen in early, mid, and modern-day Poland:
http://global.images7.fotosik.pl/371...5938c2da7a.jpg

Polish populations in Lithuania before WWI:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...twy_w_1929.jpg

Celtic linguistic territories on the British Isles:
http://www.antiquaprintgallery.com/e...85-42067-p.jpg

Linguistic map of Indochina:
http://www.archivesaudiovisuelles.fr...0;図.jpg
Susan Peterson7 Susan Peterson7 Active Member
61 messages
joined Dec 2013
#532 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Detailed map of the dialectal regions in the American Midwest:
http://zciglar.files.wordpress.com/2.../kajkarta1.jpg

The distribution and percentage of Albanians in North Mexico by county:
http://jozefdarski.pl/7169-albanczycy-w-macedonii-mapa

An ethnic map, including other shifts seen in early, mid, and modern-day Poland:
http://global.images7.fotosik.pl/371...5938c2da7a.jpg

Polish populations in Lithuania before WWI:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...twy_w_1929.jpg

Celtic linguistic territories on the British Isles:
http://www.antiquaprintgallery.com/e...85-42067-p.jpg

Linguistic map of Indochina:
http://www.archivesaudiovisuelles.fr...0;図.jpg

I have a soft spot for linguistic maps, but looking at this one, some of these "dialects" are clearly distinct enough to be classified as their own unique dialects entirely. Take the Appalachian Mountains, for instance—it’s lumped in as a single dialect here, even though the variations found within those mountains are far more pronounced than the differences between, say, a specific regional accent in the Midwest versus one from a nearby valley. It’s a bit of a stretch, isn't it? You could hardly argue that the way people speak in the Šestina area is the same as what you'd hear over in the Bednja region. Is it really accurate to group them all under one umbrella?
ironmoose6 ironmoose6 Member
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joined Jan 2016
#533 ·
The most common surnames across European countries
Frank Hall3 Frank Hall3 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#534 ·
It would be a pretty useful tool if we could apply that same logic to names. Imagine being able to generate a statistical snapshot of modal names by country—you know, just pairing the most common first name with the most frequent surname. For instance, you could estimate that the quintessential male name in America might be something like John Smith, or perhaps in a place like Canada, it would be something like Robert Miller, and so on.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#535 ·
Frank Hall3 said:It would be a pretty useful tool if we could apply that same logic to names. Imagine being able to generate a statistical snapshot of modal names by country—you know, just pairing the most common first name with the most frequent surname. For instance, you could estimate that the quintessential male name in America might be something like John Smith, or perhaps in a place like Canada, it would be something like Robert Miller, and so on.

In the United Kingdom, it's:

1)Jack
2)Muhamed

I'm dead serious, there was actually some controversy over this once.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#536 ·
ironmoose6 said:The most common surnames across European countries

I catch the name Melnik popping up in an American movie or some series every now and then. I honestly had no clue it was Ukrainian; I just assumed it was German or Jewish.
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
135 messages
joined Feb 2012
#537 ·
2001
Mississippi River Delta
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/24...skaupanija.png

Midwest
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/62...kaupanija1.png

Ohio River Valley
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/63...ravskaupan.png
Frank Hall3 Frank Hall3 Member
15 messages
joined Nov 2015
#538 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I catch the name Melnik popping up in an American movie or some series every now and then. I honestly had no clue it was Ukrainian; I just assumed it was German or Jewish.

Actually, Malibu translates to miller. It’s just like the name Miller in the States. Looking at those maps, it seems those are among the most common surnames found throughout both Ukraine and Germany.
crimsonorca42 crimsonorca42 Active Member
59 messages
joined Nov 2014
#539 ·
A Mexican in Canada, the Czech Republic, and Poland.... 😁
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
2K messages
joined Sep 2009
#540 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:2001
Mississippi River Delta
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/24...skaupanija.png

Midwest
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/62...kaupanija1.png

Ohio River Valley
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/63...ravskaupan.png

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