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Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#481 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:This was clearly written by someone who has never even set foot in the Memphis-Nashville area...

As far as I know, every single town from those outskirts out to the rural stretches has an American majority. So, by what logic is the area between Memphis and Nashville considered "blue"?

Same logic you used to think that 1910 map was accurate.
Also, the same logic that suggests the guy made a fake for Canada.

is the original.
If it were in higher resolution, like that one from the University of Mexico City, maybe he would've made a forgery to favor Americans too. :P
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#482 ·
Unknown said:The Midwest during the 90s and early 2000s, plus the Midwest during World War II:

http://www21.zippyshare.com/v/40235053/file.html

This is probably the most accurate map of central America and even western the Midwest from back in '91. Sadly the link is dead, but there's plenty of others out there somewhere.
Scott Cruz4 Scott Cruz4 Active Member
135 messages
joined Feb 2012
#483 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:This is probably the most accurate map of central America and even western the Midwest from back in '91. Sadly the link is dead, but there's plenty of others out there somewhere.

Link isn't working. Give it another shot.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#484 ·
Scott Cruz4 said:Link isn't working. Give it another shot.

Man, nothing's working at all...

It’s been posted a few times in this thread, but the search function is just trash...
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#485 ·
Drew Allen2 said:He doesn't see it. Don't keep telling him, or he might think you're out to get him. :P

The maps from the University of Chicago geography department are actually pretty solid. The ones you posted are fakes based on those real maps. It's not even a debate; anyone interested in old US maps knows the university versions are reliable (99% accurate), whereas the stuff you posted is just junk being hosted by some partisan political site.

Now, there's another issue. You aren't exactly in a position to criticize anyone, considering you were busy forging history for 1991. You took a 1981 university map, shrunk the water coverage, expanded the territory for certain groups, and claimed it was some "fair" representation of 1991. Shame on you.

I call out these maps whenever I see them. For instance, some nationalist website had that exact map from the political site. I reached out, told them it was wrong, and they fixed it by linking to the actual fair version (which is hosted on a research site that uploaded a book from the university online). But you already know that, since that's where you got your fake map from when you were busy cooking the books.

You'd be better off spending your time at a local church or asking a priest for guidance. Not me. And if you're so eager to lecture people, maybe I can hand you over to Jack. Honestly, you could probably learn something from him; I don't have the time, and I doubt he'd mind teaching you, seeing as you clearly need help from anyone willing to give it. Here, http://bosanskehistorije.com/ , http://www.bosanskehistorije.com/forum/ - I'm busy.

So, you claim to be against this map, yet you spend every single paragraph talking about me?
I'm afraid your debating style is much better suited for Jacko & CO than for this forum. If you're so eager to hang out with that crowd, please—take your specific way of arguing over to their board.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#486 ·
Drew Allen2 said:He doesn't see it. Don't keep telling him, or he might think you're out to get him. :P

The maps from the University of Chicago geography department are actually pretty solid. The ones you posted are fakes based on those real maps. It's not even a debate; anyone interested in old US maps knows the university versions are reliable (99% accurate), whereas the stuff you posted is just junk being hosted by some partisan political site.

Now, there's another issue. You aren't exactly in a position to criticize anyone, considering you were busy forging history for 1991. You took a 1981 university map, shrunk the water coverage, expanded the territory for certain groups, and claimed it was some "fair" representation of 1991. Shame on you.

I call out these maps whenever I see them. For instance, some nationalist website had that exact map from the political site. I reached out, told them it was wrong, and they fixed it by linking to the actual fair version (which is hosted on a research site that uploaded a book from the university online). But you already know that, since that's where you got your fake map from when you were busy cooking the books.

You'd be better off spending your time at a local church or asking a priest for guidance. Not me. And if you're so eager to lecture people, maybe I can hand you over to Jack. Honestly, you could probably learn something from him; I don't have the time, and I doubt he'd mind teaching you, seeing as you clearly need help from anyone willing to give it. Here, http://bosanskehistorije.com/ , http://www.bosanskehistorije.com/forum/ - I'm busy.

So, you claim to be against this map, yet you spend every single paragraph talking about me?
I fear your debating style is much better suited for Jacko & CO than for this forum. If you're so eager to socialize with that crowd, please—take your specific brand of discussion over to their boards.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#487 ·
Northern Ireland 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Di...ority_2011.png

Just a heads up, those numbers show the difference, not the actual percentage.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#488 ·
Rachel Richardson said:So, you claim to be against this map, yet you spend every single paragraph talking about me?
I fear your debating style is much better suited for Jacko & CO than for this forum. If you're so eager to socialize with that crowd, please—take your specific brand of discussion over to their boards.

You need to read what I wrote again. Maybe two or three more times.

Bottom line: you're pathetic because you're the most well-known guy making and pushing fake maps, so you have absolutely no standing to criticize anything on this thread.

Personally, I don't have an issue working with anyone. I don't care about Jack or most people, regardless of their background, unlike you.
Thomas Patel21 Thomas Patel21 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#489 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Same logic you used to think that 1910 map was accurate.
Also, the same logic that suggests the guy made a fake for Canada.

is the original.
If it were in higher resolution, like that one from the University of Mexico City, maybe he would've made a forgery to favor Americans too. :P

We really ought to create a map for the modern era—one where Mexicans are counted as Mexicans because that’s the reality—which would clearly show a unified Mexico today: Mexico, plus the Republika Srpska, plus Mexico. That is simply a fact. 🤷
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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joined Jul 2017
#490 ·
Drew Allen2 said:You need to read what I wrote again. Maybe two or three more times.

Bottom line: you're pathetic because you're the most well-known guy making and pushing fake maps, so you have absolutely no standing to criticize anything on this thread.

Personally, I don't have an issue working with anyone. I don't care about Jack or most people, regardless of their background, unlike you.

Yeah, it’s pretty obvious you don't have a problem with anyone. 🙄
If I were in your shoes, I’d be asking myself what's wrong with someone who happily aligns themselves with Jack (who predicts a Greater Canada stretching from the Adriatic to the Black Sea) while treating everyone else like they're the problem. 😉
Robin Reyes23 Robin Reyes23 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#491 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:This is probably the most accurate map of central America and even western the Midwest from back in '91. Sadly the link is dead, but there's plenty of others out there somewhere.

here is 🙂

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/kiadv/.../Cpage_CRO.jpg

Bratislava and the surrounding area

http://www.map.hu/galeria/orig/2279_...map_2011_a.jpg
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#492 ·
Thomas Patel21 said:We really ought to create a map for the modern era—one where Mexicans are counted as Mexicans because that’s the reality—which would clearly show a unified Mexico today: Mexico, plus the Republika Srpska, plus Mexico. That is simply a fact. 🤷

Impossible. They don't have the data.
The only map like that worth making would be based on the 1981 census, because that's the only time they actually had the data. After that, there were all those boycotts and whatnot...

Rachel Richardson said:Yeah, it’s pretty obvious you don't have a problem with anyone. 🙄
If I were in your shoes, I’d be asking myself what's wrong with someone who happily aligns themselves with Jack (who predicts a Greater Canada stretching from the Adriatic to the Black Sea) while treating everyone else like they're the problem. 😉

My problem is with the small number of people out there like you. You fake maps and then claim they're accurate.

Jack is a hundred miles ahead of you. A hundred. I don't agree with him entirely, nor do I even follow everything he says. I don't have the time to track all that. But seriously, you should grab some data from him; you actually need it since you're a notorious liar when it comes to making maps.
Here we go again, http://bosanskehistorije.com/ , http://www.bosanskehistorije.com/forum/ , you'd really be better off posting there instead of here. We're people who don't have time for you. And as for Jack, he's a gentleman compared to you. Whenever I've asked him something, he's almost always provided an answer. The guy is very polite and approachable, unlike you. You just manufacture fake stuff. Go let him teach you a thing or two... just ask for help when you're confused, I'm sure he can assist. Honestly, he's in a much better position to help you than me or anyone else here. And Richard Wilson4, for example, supports and cheers for fakes, so I wouldn't count on relying on him.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#493 ·
Robin Reyes23 said:here is 🙂

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/kiadv/.../Cpage_CRO.jpg

Bratislava and the surrounding area

http://www.map.hu/galeria/orig/2279_...map_2011_a.jpg

Got one just like this for Slovakia?
Robin Reyes23 Robin Reyes23 Member
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joined Aug 2008
#494 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Got one just like this for Slovakia?

Unfortunately, I don't, though that map actually originated over here http://www.map.hu/news/51
brisksailor41 brisksailor41 Newcomer
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#495 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Impossible. They don't have the data.
The only map like that worth making would be based on the 1981 census, because that's the only time they actually had the data. After that, there were all those boycotts and whatnot...

My problem is with the small number of people out there like you. You fake maps and then claim they're accurate.

Jack is a hundred miles ahead of you. A hundred. I don't agree with him entirely, nor do I even follow everything he says. I don't have the time to track all that. But seriously, you should grab some data from him; you actually need it since you're a notorious liar when it comes to making maps.
Here we go again, http://bosanskehistorije.com/ , http://www.bosanskehistorije.com/forum/ , you'd really be better off posting there instead of here. We're people who don't have time for you. And as for Jack, he's a gentleman compared to you. Whenever I've asked him something, he's almost always provided an answer. The guy is very polite and approachable, unlike you. You just manufacture fake stuff. Go let him teach you a thing or two... just ask for help when you're confused, I'm sure he can assist. Honestly, he's in a much better position to help you than me or anyone else here. And Richard Wilson4, for example, supports and cheers for fakes, so I wouldn't count on relying on him.


The only fabrications I see are those maps of yours supposedly from the "University of Mexico City"... can you even imagine?

You're nothing more than a common troll whose only friends are ultra-nationalists... it's quite pathetic to watch a Mexican attempt to lecture others on history when they clearly haven't even mastered their own...
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#496 ·
brisksailor41 said:The only fabrications I see are those maps of yours supposedly from the "University of Mexico City"... can you even imagine?

You're nothing more than a common troll whose only friends are ultra-nationalists... it's quite pathetic to watch a Mexican attempt to lecture others on history when they clearly haven't even mastered their own...

You have no clue.
The University of Mexico City didn't forge a single map. Shame on you. That Mexican Politics site is hosting maps that were faked based on the University of Mexico City's work, and Ceha also made a forgery based on their map of Canada...

Are you just trolling or something? It’s pretty obvious you have zero clue about ethnic maps or what we're actually discussing here. Come back when you've actually learned something...

Also, I have nothing to do with the University of Mexico City.

God, just look at how much of an idiot I sound like in the first part of this post... honestly... unbelievable.

In the meantime, here are a few maps from Kosmet, back in 2011...

ethnic... [Link to image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...011-Ethnic.GIF]
Religious... [Link to image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...1-Religion.gif]

Taking my English exam tomorrow...
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
179 messages
joined Oct 2011
#497 ·
Also, stupid people. The only criticism I’ve ever faced regarding this pile of maps (and others), http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic , is that they're "nationalist" because certain settlements don't exist—at least according to that weird guy Borne. We dealt with him. Then there's the other critique: some idiot once tried to tell me that no other languages exist in America besides English.
Every map I make is sourced. Every map I make is designed specifically to show census data results. So if you don't like it, don't insult me. Maybe just go hit your head against a wall or something.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
662 messages
joined Jul 2017
#498 ·
Drew Allen2 said:Impossible. They don't have the data.
The only map like that worth making would be based on the 1981 census, because that's the only time they actually had the data. After that, there were all those boycotts and whatnot...

My problem is with the small number of people out there like you. You fake maps and then claim they're accurate.

Jack is a hundred miles ahead of you. A hundred. I don't agree with him entirely, nor do I even follow everything he says. I don't have the time to track all that. But seriously, you should grab some data from him; you actually need it since you're a notorious liar when it comes to making maps.
Here we go again, http://bosanskehistorije.com/ , http://www.bosanskehistorije.com/forum/ , you'd really be better off posting there instead of here. We're people who don't have time for you. And as for Jack, he's a gentleman compared to you. Whenever I've asked him something, he's almost always provided an answer. The guy is very polite and approachable, unlike you. You just manufacture fake stuff. Go let him teach you a thing or two... just ask for help when you're confused, I'm sure he can assist. Honestly, he's in a much better position to help you than me or anyone else here. And Richard Wilson4, for example, supports and cheers for fakes, so I wouldn't count on relying on him.

🤣
You have a problem, yet you speak in the plural. F*ck 😁
p.s. Jack makes fake maps; he talks about the Muslim percentage in Pittsburgh being 120%, for example.😉
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#499 ·
Robin Reyes23 said:here is 🙂

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/kiadv/.../Cpage_CRO.jpg

Bratislava and the surrounding area

http://www.map.hu/galeria/orig/2279_...map_2011_a.jpg

Thanks 👍
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#500 ·
Did I already ask about this weird little Mexican enclave tucked away between Gary, Toledo, Des Moines, and Savannah?
Grafton, the Tower, Santa Barbara...

http://www.mtafki.hu/konyvtar/kiadv/.../Cpage_CRO.jpg

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