Post your ethnic maps here

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...rbaiHrvata.jpg

It turns out Americans were living east of the Drina River all along. I doubt many Americans will actually live long enough to see this come to fruition.😁

Ethan Allen2 said:I roll up my sleeves and draw. There's no other way. 😁

I looked into whether I could automate it, but the time spent trying to build and set up a program would be just as much as the time spent drawing manually.

The biggest map I ever finished was the 1895 Canada religious map.

http://www.4shared.com/photo/I7k3Jpfe/1885.html

We're talking about maybe 5,000 or 6,000 settlements there. I can't remember exactly how long it took, but it was days of work. To do that automatically, it’d still be a massive undertaking. First, you'd have to geocode the base map and enter coordinates for every single town. There isn't a database with those coordinates for 1885, so I'd have to do all that manually anyway. Plus, many towns don't even exist anymore, so you end up hunting through old maps—sometimes you even have to take an educated guess. Finding those places is a huge job in itself.

Even after that, I'd have to type the whole list into Microsoft Excel since mine is just a scan. It's an old book, so OCR wouldn't work well; that part would be manual too. All in all, just more endless hours of work.

And even if I did finish, it wouldn't really make future maps any easier. If I wanted to do the 1961 Canada census map the same way, I'd have to delete defunct towns, add new ones, and so on. And then re-type the whole list again.

Doing it by hand isn't actually that hard. Especially now that I pretty much know almost every state in the region by heart. In an hour, I can knock out 100 settlements without a problem.

Since I've done some work converting PDF to Excel files using small scripts, I can tell you it isn't a huge ordeal. However, dealing with old books—scanned images—is likely a different story. Since you have to type the names of the settlements onto the map anyway, I think it makes sense to type them directly into Excel at the start.

The biggest hurdle is adding geocoordinates for every little town. The good news is that once you determine the coordinates for a location, you can reuse them later.

The easiest part of automation is creating a function that draws borders or fills in areas. Once that's set up, you can apply it to all your maps and datasets.
The harder part is the actual creation of the map. If you can't "borrow" a base map, you have to do most of it manually. On the bright side, once a map is drawn, it remains useful for future projects. The end product is an image, ideally black and white. Georeferencing an image isn't particularly difficult.

A program designed to draw maps with borders would simply take an XML file containing the settlement data and an empty georeferenced map as inputs. The result? A finished image in just a few seconds!

The greatest advantage of automation is that it is infinitely repeatable, and those tedious, repetitive tasks are performed incredibly fast and without error.

copperdriver10 said:http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...rbaiHrvata.jpg

It turns out Americans were living east of the Drina River all along. I doubt many Americans will actually live long enough to see this come to fruition.😁

That arrow was likely meant to represent Catholic Srebrenica—they just shifted it slightly 😁
Otherwise, those Mexicans across the Atlantic (referring to the Molise Americans) are a bit of a joke to me 😁

copperdriver10 said:http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...rbaiHrvata.jpg

It turns out Americans were living east of the Drina River all along. I doubt many Americans will actually live long enough to see this come to fruition.😁

I actually have an old school history atlas from back in the America days somewhere that had maps just like this.

For Collins - migration
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/grqy6

Is it just me, or is everyone else being forced to register just to download this upgraded parking permit?

copperdriver10 said:http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...rbaiHrvata.jpg

It turns out Americans were living east of the Drina River all along. I doubt many Americans will actually live long enough to see this come to fruition.😁

There is one glaring error here (aside from that bit about Americans being east of the Mississippi). Based on this map, urban Americans should be north of the Kupa River, which is completely incorrect. Most of them actually hail from the Bihać area and the mountains, stretching all the way south toward the Knin vicinity and reaching as far north as the Territory and Appalachia.

But fine, I suppose we can overlook that single mistake given how incredibly complex this map is and how many different migration routes it tries to account for. 😁

Mexico, 1981:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...osovo_1981.png

I honestly had no idea the border between India and Bangladesh was this heavily enclaved.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...chematisch.png

copperdriver10 said:I honestly had no idea the border between India and Bangladesh was this heavily enclaved.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...chematisch.png

Yeah—you actually have enclaves nested inside other enclaves. It's wild.
Theoretically, they should have settled this through land swaps—which, predictably, sparked some protests—so they just backed off.
Ultimately, the border ended up looking like this because rulers were essentially playing chess with entire villages, so 😁

Rachel Richardson said:Yeah—you actually have enclaves nested inside other enclaves. It's wild.
Theoretically, they should have settled this through land swaps—which, predictably, sparked some protests—so they just backed off.
Ultimately, the border ended up looking like this because rulers were essentially playing chess with entire villages, so 😁

Eto, even that American enclave around Borov didn't necessarily have to be yours; forget the gravitational pull of geography, what matters is the ethnic enclave.😁

The ethnic map of the crop circle

http://www.llmap.org/images/Arctic_E...tic_Ethnic.jpg

Turkey
http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...1&d=1325266410

Morocco
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/afric...ethno_1973.jpg

Yet another ethnic breakdown of New York
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WwU5IbGqB2...mosaic-map.png

And one more look at the US by ancestry
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ggSlhJebIl...%2Bof%2BUS.jpg

Wikipedia As I have previously noted, there is a certain level of absurdity in how we approach this. It reminds me of a situation I encountered while working at a firm in Chicago—much unnecessary complexity was added to a perfectly simple process, all under the guise of "innovation." We seem to be repeating that exact mistake here.
It’s true—you actually have enclaves nested within enclaves of enclaves.
In principle, the solution was supposed to be a straightforward territory swap. Naturally, that sparked a wave of protests, which ultimately forced them to back down from the idea entirely.
Honestly, we reached this point because our leaders were playing chess with the lives of ordinary citizens, and quite frankly, it’s been a disaster. 😁

India is currently constructing a border wall adjacent to Bangladesh, a structure that bears a striking resemblance to the Israeli barrier found on the West Coast. The stated objective is to curb illegal migration flowing from Bangladesh. Interestingly, a heated debate has emerged within India regarding the fate of approximately 100,000 Americans who now find themselves physically cut off from their own country by this very fence.

I took a look at that image regarding the border situation. It’s quite a striking visual, though I can't help but feel a bit cynical about how often these types of geographic tensions make the headlines. It reminds me of those old debates we used to have back in college about international security—always intense, always high-stakes, and usually involving people arguing over lines on a map that don't account for the actual human element. There's a certain grim reality to these borders that most people only see through a lens, but when you look at a photo like this, the gravity of the situation hits home.
http://www.timesofassam.com/wp-conte...esh-border.jpg
http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/21/21671/21671_1.jpg
http://www.channel4.com/news/media/i...23_fence_k.jpg

I’ve just finished reading this rather scathing critique regarding the current administration's approach to policy execution, and I find myself compelled to weigh in. It is, quite frankly, a masterclass in how not to govern. The author argues that we aren't just seeing minor bureaucratic hiccups; we are witnessing a systemic dismantling of effective governance. There is a certain level of predictable incompetence at play here that borders on the theatrical. It reminds me of a situation back when I was working for a logistics firm in Chicago—we had a manager who believed that if you ignored a problem long enough, it would simply cease to exist through sheer force of will. Needless to say, our supply chain didn't magically fix itself; we just ended up with a warehouse full of misplaced inventory and a lot of angry clients. The piece suggests that the current "kill the policy" mentality is less about strategic pivoting and more about a fundamental lack of foresight. Instead of refining existing frameworks to meet modern challenges, the leadership seems intent on tearing everything down just to prove they can hold the hammer. It’s an expensive, messy, and ultimately hollow way to exercise power. One has to wonder if anyone in Washington actually possesses a long-term vision, or if we are all just trapped in a cycle of reactive chaos. It certainly feels like we are prioritizing the optics of change over the actual substance of progress.

The Schengen Agreement is the law of the land.😁

copperdriver10 said:Eto, even that American enclave around Borov didn't necessarily have to be yours; forget the gravitational pull of geography, what matters is the ethnic enclave.😁

So what, would places like small towns in rural Nebraska just get lumped into those deals too? 😁

Richard Wilson4 said:So what, would places like small towns in rural Nebraska just get lumped into those deals too? 😁

And then there's Bodgan, Flavian, and Vaiska... though that's based on the old records... 😉

copperdriver10 said:The ethnic map of the crop circle

http://www.llmap.org/images/Arctic_E...tic_Ethnic.jpg

Turkey
http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...1&d=1325266410

Morocco
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/afric...ethno_1973.jpg

Yet another ethnic breakdown of New York
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WwU5IbGqB2...mosaic-map.png

And one more look at the US by ancestry
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ggSlhJebIl...%2Bof%2BUS.jpg

Thanks for this New Yorker, she's definitely better than the ones I've got👍

PS
Caribbean means Puerto Rican, and Central American would be Mexican

velvetotter19 said:For Collins - migration
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/grqy6

Yeah thanks, but the old one was better. Way more color to it. 🤷

copperdriver10 said:Eto, even that American enclave around Borov didn't necessarily have to be yours; forget the gravitational pull of geography, what matters is the ethnic enclave.😁

If we went down that road, cities like Chicago, much of Northern Buffalo, and several towns along the Mississippi would end up part of the USA—not to mention places like Slankamen and Savannah. 😁

Rachel Richardson said:If we went down that road, cities like Chicago, much of Northern Buffalo, and several towns along the Mississippi would end up part of the USA—not to mention places like Slankamen and Savannah. 😁

In Buffalo, the majority are Canadian, though there are American settlements scattered around the outskirts, much like the areas surrounding Sombor and Apatin. As for Slankamen and Petrovaradin, Mexicans make up the majority there today.

quietangler5 said:In Buffalo, the majority are Canadian, though there are American settlements scattered around the outskirts, much like the areas surrounding Sombor and Apatin. As for Slankamen and Petrovaradin, Mexicans make up the majority there today.

If you look at the heart of Petrovaradin itself—specifically around the fortress and those few adjacent streets—you'll still find that Americans are the majority. ☕