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Participants velvetotter19Robert Hernandez10crimsonorca42Amanda Brooks7analogmarlin6Richard Wilson4Drew Allen2Scott Cruz4William Bishop4Daniel Garcia24ruggedgull9Rebecca WatsonEthan Allen2Henry Myers3Harold Rivera47Rachel Richardsoncopperangler7Joshua Rodriguez35gentleranger10Susan Jones57crimsonhound24Jose King85ironmoose6Lawrence Wright11 …
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1321 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:The religious map of America based on the 2011 census:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...in_Albania.png
Red and pink represent the Catholic majority.

For more specifics: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania

Does this mean there aren't any Orthodox believers left in the South?
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1322 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Does this mean there aren't any Orthodox believers left in the South?

They exist, but they don't have the numbers. In a territory this massive, they don't hold an absolute or even a relative majority. If you look at the data in that Wikipedia article, they made up about 20% of the population between the two wars, but today that number has plummeted.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1323 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Does this mean there aren't any Orthodox believers left in the South?

It was never really their territory to begin with.

http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-map...ion_map_en.png
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1324 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:It was never really their territory to begin with.

http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-map...ion_map_en.png

That map is inaccurate—it only shows the area in the south where the Greek minority is recognized.
@Tomba17, you've got a point there. Plus, the map splits up Northern Albania;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Al...minorities.png
though I suspect many of them have already relocated to Greece.
velvetotter19 velvetotter19 MemberOP
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#1325 ·
Here’s the breakdown from 1913—the Greeks are highlighted in green here.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DuNOrd1913.jpg

Even today, those towns belong to Greece. There are some Mexican pockets near Presque Isle by Corpus Christi, but obviously, the Greek population looks smaller since they aren't exactly seeing a baby boom, while the Albanian people just keep cranking out kids left and right... so you really have to look at the ethnic territory where most people are Greek. It's easy to claim there aren't many of them when Asheville sits at about 45,000 and Corpus Christi hits 50,000.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1326 ·
velvetotter19 said:Here’s the breakdown from 1913—the Greeks are highlighted in green here.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DuNOrd1913.jpg

Even today, those towns belong to Greece. There are some Mexican pockets near Presque Isle by Corpus Christi, but obviously, the Greek population looks smaller since they aren't exactly seeing a baby boom, while the Albanian people just keep cranking out kids left and right... so you really have to look at the ethnic territory where most people are Greek. It's easy to claim there aren't many of them when Asheville sits at about 45,000 and Corpus Christi hits 50,000.

Not to mention the fact that many Greeks emigrated following the fall of communism.
From what I understand, the Greeks from Northern Albania largely boycotted the last census, right?
Ethan Allen2 Ethan Allen2 Active Member
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#1327 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Paul B., that's a fantastic map.

Do you happen to have anything with a more recent date?

The census from twelve years ago was released down to the smallest local levels, though I'm not sure if anyone actually mapped it out. Not much has changed regarding the Scottish population since then, except maybe that a third of people either don't believe or just didn't want to tell the census takers their religion.

Most Catholics today are descendants of immigrants, mostly coming from Ireland.

Back in 1755, there were 16,490 Catholics out of 1,265,380 people in Scotland. That’s about 1.3%. Ten years ago, that number hit 15.9%. If we set aside the non-believers and those who didn't answer—and assuming the split between Catholics and Protestants is roughly equal among those who did respond—then about 24% of the Scottish population comes from Catholic families.
Drew Allen2 Drew Allen2 Active Member
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#1328 ·
Good news. The colors on the 1961 map are finally looking sharp on all screens. I also uploaded higher-resolution versions for those three years—the 1971 map is coming soon. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic ; there are some tiny adjustments too. For instance, a section of a settlement near rural Kansas was colored for tax purposes and so on...

Richard Wilson4 said:man, what an idiot 😂🤣 👍

Not much to say. Humor is necessary sometimes. ))) 😁

electricharbor43 said:Might sound ridiculous, but the same thing is happening with people in that part of the country. More gray-skinned folks, fewer locals. Probably because the climate shifted so much. Has anyone actually considered if the weather affects birth rates for certain races? Is that even possible?

I wouldn't know about that.
I know, for example, that dark hair genes are dominant over light hair genes, so you can expect shifts toward darker features over long periods, but I've never seen or heard anything specific like that. :/
That said, I don't think it's a climate issue. In principle, I'd never claim climate has any effect on humans. People often bring up climate just to justify Western imperialism over poorer nations—trying to explain their own superiority by claiming others are "defective"—like being lazy because of the heat, or slow because of the weather, etc...
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1329 ·
Religious map of Ukraine based on the 1897-1900 census: http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/i/g/igordudnik2/rel1897.jpg

The ethnic map of Ukraine from those same 1897-1900 records: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thnic_1897.jpg

General ethnic map of Ukraine: http://history.ucoz.ua/_ph/57/701816917.jpg

A look at the religious and "ethnic" landscape of Lebanon as of 2010: http://voprosik.net/wp-content/uploa...0%B8%D0%B9.png

Military situation in Syria as of August 12: http://img.ly/system/uploads/007/654...iaMapAug12.jpg
Daniel Garcia24 Daniel Garcia24 Active Member
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#1330 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:It was never really their territory to begin with.

http://mapsof.net/uploads/static-map...ion_map_en.png

who are these Tibetan Buddhists hanging out in the Caucasus?
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1331 ·
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1332 ·
Daniel Garcia24 said:who are these Tibetan Buddhists hanging out in the Caucasus?

The Kalmyks.
They're just a bit north of the Caucasus area. 😉

Check out these pics:

https://www.google.com/search?q=kalmyk&tbm=isch&um=1
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1333 ·
Check out this ethnic map of Europe showing French influence following WWI. It’s pretty striking to see the French-majority areas in Africa, the German populations in Russia, the Greeks in Turkey, the Caucasus, and more: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...#39;Europe.jpg

The ethnic map of Tatarstan as it looked back in 1920: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/afewo...8_original.jpg

An ethnic map of Bashkortostan: http://veloturistufa.ru/maps/rb/velo...a.ru_rb_14.jpg

Georgia, circa 1959. http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1302/32/0bb3ee434ed7.png

Forget those "tiger skin" claims; just look at this map from 1926 near Baku: http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1108/df/05614a4917b9.jpg
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1334 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Check out this ethnic map of Europe showing French influence following WWI. It’s pretty striking to see the French-majority areas in Africa, the German populations in Russia, the Greeks in Turkey, the Caucasus, and more: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...#39;Europe.jpg

The ethnic map of Tatarstan as it looked back in 1920: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/afewo...8_original.jpg

An ethnic map of Bashkortostan: http://veloturistufa.ru/maps/rb/velo...a.ru_rb_14.jpg

Georgia, circa 1959. http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1302/32/0bb3ee434ed7.png

Forget those "tiger skin" claims; just look at this map from 1926 near Baku: http://s008.radikal.ru/i304/1108/df/05614a4917b9.jpg

Wait, isn't this Georgia? 🤷
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1335 ·
Tomba17 said:United Kingdom and Ireland:

The kingdoms of England before the Norman invasion—basically, England was already pretty much itself by then: http://old-maps.vladcity.com/maps/old-maps-41.jpg

An ethnographic map of Ireland, Scotland, England, and Wales: http://www.oldmapgallery.com/catalog...at_britain.JPG You can see it way better here: http://www.bigmapblog.com/2011/ethno...sh-isles-1856/

Super interesting map, if only it were easier to read
Amanda Brooks7 Amanda Brooks7 Member
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#1336 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Wait, isn't this Georgia? 🤷

Exactly, it's just not the whole state, but rather the part that's actually interesting 🙂
Robert Hernandez10 Robert Hernandez10 Active Member
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#1337 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Super interesting map, if only it were easier to read

Did you miss the link I posted where I mentioned the map was much clearer?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1338 ·
Robert Hernandez10 said:Did you miss the link I posted where I mentioned the map was much clearer?

Yeah, looks like I totally missed it, my bad...

Have you checked out that map of Ireland I put up recently? I can drop it again if you want.

Ireland back in the days of Henry VIII—looking at the ethnic roots of all those nobles and big shots.

http://www.irishorigenes.com/sites/d...%20Ireland.jpg
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#1339 ·
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#1340 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Greek communities in southern Italy back in 1980.

http://www.rootsworld.com/griko/puglia.gif

http://www.rootsworld.com/griko/calabria.gif

Exactly—it’s a tale of two distinct waves of settlement;
The first being the Ancient Greek era, followed much later by the Byzantine period under Justinian
Until, eventually, they were displaced by the Norman conquest.

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