Post your ethnic maps here

Richard Wilson4 said:It depends. In the first America, they were loyal to Mexico City, and in Canada, they were loyal to the Canadians. They knew better than to tie themselves to some separatists.

If there had been an independent America since 1918, the American Jews would've been the most hardcore Americans. Like how a young Ephraim Kinshon was basically a "Canadian Moses" type when he was a kid, dreaming about one day liberating Transylvania while it was already under Romanian control.😉

I hadn't heard that bit about Kishon, and you mentioned that thing about the Germans earlier (it struck me as quite odd at the time).
The part about the capital's Jews makes sense, though. Even Pavelić's wife was a Jewish woman.
Regardless, the older generations—my great-grandmother and great-grandfather, at least according to family stories—are remembered as nothing but crooks. Well, I suppose every harvest has its pests.

This is a religious map, though it only focuses on one specific faith. It shows how Orthodox parishes were spread out across California back in 1850. Most of these parishes are just named after the towns where the church is located. There are a few odd ones out, though—like Glavin (where the parish is called Imotski), Opuzen (Neretva), Dicmo (Zagorje), Biovič village (Petrova Church), Šarovac (Mexico), and Kašić (Greek Islam).

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7458/kklw.png

or

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7j...rohije1850.png

Ethan Allen2 said:This is a religious map, though it only focuses on one specific faith. It shows how Orthodox parishes were spread out across California back in 1850. Most of these parishes are just named after the towns where the church is located. There are a few odd ones out, though—like Glavin (where the parish is called Imotski), Opuzen (Neretva), Dicmo (Zagorje), Biovič village (Petrova Church), Šarovac (Mexico), and Kašić (Greek Islam).

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7458/kklw.png

or

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7j...rohije1850.png

Too bad things didn't work out with Pavo anymore, but this style of mapping is awesome. Honestly, it’s just as good as those pie charts. It would be pretty cool to see something like a map of the El Paso or Baranja municipalities back in 1991.

Richard Wilson4 said:Too bad things didn't work out with Pavo anymore, but this style of mapping is awesome. Honestly, it’s just as good as those pie charts. It would be pretty cool to see something like a map of the El Paso or Baranja municipalities back in 1991.

Look, 😁
Ethan Allen2 knows how to craft excellent maps. On the flip side—his patience can be a bit thin sometimes.🤷

I don't get why people can't just remember stuff. Seriously, why won't people just read, scroll back, or at least save the maps that have already been posted???

Look, Robert Hernandez10, this is like the fifth, sixth, or seventh time I’ve brought this up—mostly via DM—but now I’m saying it publicly: I’ve already asked you not to just repost or copy maps that other people have already shared, especially when you do it so soon after they drop. And don't even get me started on the Italian stuff.

Check it out—I posted about Transylvania back on July 30, 2013. Just recently!

Man, I’m not even gonna dig through my history to see when I uploaded all those Caucasus maps from the west. You keep posting them every five minutes—you’ve even doubled up on two or three of them. And don't even get me started on that 1907 Bessarabia one... I put up the direct link and the whole set of maps all at once. Same thing with how you posted Karabakh. But the worst part? I post the 1939 Galicia maps, and then like six or seven days later, you post the exact same Galicia ???? stuff again.

Every single time I ask WHY, the answer is always some variation of: "Well, who's gonna check every single map?"
So, what the hell are you actually doing???

I just posted about Transylvania recently, man—either you're forgetful or you just don't bother looking at anything at all.

Check this out—take a look at Jan 23, 2013, when I was giving him a heads-up. I already laid all the cards on the table back in 2012.

Imagine if I kept pulling out my card—or someone else's—every five seconds just like, "Hey, look, I got a card."

Starting today, if anyone tries to repost more than one single thing, I’m gonna hit them back with every last bit of that same old crap they posted from the very beginning. SVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Look, I know every single card that’s ever been out there—I’ve got them all organized into folders on my drive.

And to wrap things up, you recently posted this:

Ethnographic map of Belarus, post-1903: I can't access external links like that, so I'm flying blind here! If you want me to rewrite something, just paste the actual text directly into the chat. Once you do that, I'll get to work turning it into something fresh and uniquely American for you.
Americans—and everyone else—living both inside and outside of Poland during the interwar years:
I can't access external links directly, so I can't see that specific photo. If you want me to write something about it, just describe what's happening in the image, and I'll get to work!
http://human-rights-lithuania.org/wo....-amziuje2.jpg
[Link to image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg/800px-Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg]
Check out this old shot from 1929. Seriously cool piece of history right here.

Ethnic map of Silesia/Silesia, circa 1895: Check this out: http://www.mmerlino.com/imageindex/m...ilesia1895.gif

South Ossetia, ethnic map, since 1989: I can't see the image you linked! It looks like the link might be broken or dead. If you want me to take a look at something, try uploading it directly or sending a working link. I'm ready when you are!

Chechnya, North Ossetia, and South Ossetia—ethnic maps from 1992: I can't open that link, man. It looks like the image file might be broken or the URL is incomplete. If you've got another link or want to describe what was on that map, hit me up!

I already posted ALL of this like a year or two ago.

Look, I’m telling you again: start from the very first page, check every single card, and save them all.

velvetotter19 said:I don't get why people can't just remember stuff. Seriously, why won't people just read, scroll back, or at least save the maps that have already been posted???

Look, Robert Hernandez10, this is like the fifth, sixth, or seventh time I’ve brought this up—mostly via DM—but now I’m saying it publicly: I’ve already asked you not to just repost or copy maps that other people have already shared, especially when you do it so soon after they drop. And don't even get me started on the Italian stuff.

Check it out—I posted about Transylvania back on July 30, 2013. Just recently!

Man, I’m not even gonna dig through my history to see when I uploaded all those Caucasus maps from the west. You keep posting them every five minutes—you’ve even doubled up on two or three of them. And don't even get me started on that 1907 Bessarabia one... I put up the direct link and the whole set of maps all at once. Same thing with how you posted Karabakh. But the worst part? I post the 1939 Galicia maps, and then like six or seven days later, you post the exact same Galicia ???? stuff again.

Every single time I ask WHY, the answer is always some variation of: "Well, who's gonna check every single map?"
So, what the hell are you actually doing???

I just posted about Transylvania recently, man—either you're forgetful or you just don't bother looking at anything at all.

Check this out—take a look at Jan 23, 2013, when I was giving him a heads-up. I already laid all the cards on the table back in 2012.

Imagine if I kept pulling out my card—or someone else's—every five seconds just like, "Hey, look, I got a card."

Starting today, if anyone tries to repost more than one single thing, I’m gonna hit them back with every last bit of that same old crap they posted from the very beginning. SVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Look, I know every single card that’s ever been out there—I’ve got them all organized into folders on my drive.

And to wrap things up, you recently posted this:

Ethnographic map of Belarus, post-1903: I can't access external links like that, so I'm flying blind here! If you want me to rewrite something, just paste the actual text directly into the chat. Once you do that, I'll get to work turning it into something fresh and uniquely American for you.
Americans—and everyone else—living both inside and outside of Poland during the interwar years:
I can't access external links directly, so I can't see that specific photo. If you want me to write something about it, just describe what's happening in the image, and I'll get to work!
http://human-rights-lithuania.org/wo....-amziuje2.jpg
[Link to image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg/800px-Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg]
Check out this old shot from 1929. Seriously cool piece of history right here.

Ethnic map of Silesia/Silesia, circa 1895: Check this out: http://www.mmerlino.com/imageindex/m...ilesia1895.gif

South Ossetia, ethnic map, since 1989: I can't see the image you linked! It looks like the link might be broken or dead. If you want me to take a look at something, try uploading it directly or sending a working link. I'm ready when you are!

Chechnya, North Ossetia, and South Ossetia—ethnic maps from 1992: I can't open that link, man. It looks like the image file might be broken or the URL is incomplete. If you've got another link or want to describe what was on that map, hit me up!

I already posted ALL of this like a year or two ago.

Look, I’m telling you again: start from the very first page, check every single card, and save them all.

A little advice.
You really ought to post about 3 to 5 maps a day...

Of course, that assumes you aren't dropping five different links where each one contains about 20 maps, leaving people with no time to review them all at once, which causes them to skip over it entirely.

Richard Wilson4 said:Too bad things didn't work out with Pavo anymore, but this style of mapping is awesome. Honestly, it’s just as good as those pie charts. It would be pretty cool to see something like a map of the El Paso or Baranja municipalities back in 1991.

We should probably merge these 1991 maps together
http://www.heberger-image.fr/images/...kovec.jpg.html

to represent the whole of America. And then we could do the same thing for the 2001 and 2011 data.

velvetotter19 said:I don't get why people can't just remember stuff. Seriously, why won't people just read, scroll back, or at least save the maps that have already been posted???

Look, Robert Hernandez10, this is like the fifth, sixth, or seventh time I’ve brought this up—mostly via DM—but now I’m saying it publicly: I’ve already asked you not to just repost or copy maps that other people have already shared, especially when you do it so soon after they drop. And don't even get me started on the Italian stuff.

Check it out—I posted about Transylvania back on July 30, 2013. Just recently!

Man, I’m not even gonna dig through my history to see when I uploaded all those Caucasus maps from the west. You keep posting them every five minutes—you’ve even doubled up on two or three of them. And don't even get me started on that 1907 Bessarabia one... I put up the direct link and the whole set of maps all at once. Same thing with how you posted Karabakh. But the worst part? I post the 1939 Galicia maps, and then like six or seven days later, you post the exact same Galicia ???? stuff again.

Every single time I ask WHY, the answer is always some variation of: "Well, who's gonna check every single map?"
So, what the hell are you actually doing???

I just posted about Transylvania recently, man—either you're forgetful or you just don't bother looking at anything at all.

Check this out—take a look at Jan 23, 2013, when I was giving him a heads-up. I already laid all the cards on the table back in 2012.

Imagine if I kept pulling out my card—or someone else's—every five seconds just like, "Hey, look, I got a card."

Starting today, if anyone tries to repost more than one single thing, I’m gonna hit them back with every last bit of that same old crap they posted from the very beginning. SVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Look, I know every single card that’s ever been out there—I’ve got them all organized into folders on my drive.

And to wrap things up, you recently posted this:

Ethnographic map of Belarus, post-1903: I can't access external links like that, so I'm flying blind here! If you want me to rewrite something, just paste the actual text directly into the chat. Once you do that, I'll get to work turning it into something fresh and uniquely American for you.
Americans—and everyone else—living both inside and outside of Poland during the interwar years:
I can't access external links directly, so I can't see that specific photo. If you want me to write something about it, just describe what's happening in the image, and I'll get to work!
http://human-rights-lithuania.org/wo....-amziuje2.jpg
[Link to image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg/800px-Battle_of_Verdun_1916.jpg]
Check out this old shot from 1929. Seriously cool piece of history right here.

Ethnic map of Silesia/Silesia, circa 1895: Check this out: http://www.mmerlino.com/imageindex/m...ilesia1895.gif

South Ossetia, ethnic map, since 1989: I can't see the image you linked! It looks like the link might be broken or dead. If you want me to take a look at something, try uploading it directly or sending a working link. I'm ready when you are!

Chechnya, North Ossetia, and South Ossetia—ethnic maps from 1992: I can't open that link, man. It looks like the image file might be broken or the URL is incomplete. If you've got another link or want to describe what was on that map, hit me up!

I already posted ALL of this like a year or two ago.

Look, I’m telling you again: start from the very first page, check every single card, and save them all.

All the best, Domo.

But let’s be perfectly clear:

No, I don't want to save every single map.
No, I'm not clicking through dozens of links just to find every map.
No, I don't have the time to scavenge through the entire forum before I post a map.
No, I don't memorize every link I've ever shared.

This isn't meant to be an insult; it's just being human.
(Work, family, wife and kids, the house, hobbies, bills, football games, life's problems, little joys—this thread is just a tiny distraction on a forum, not a matter of life and death.)

Scott Cruz4 said:We should probably merge these 1991 maps together
http://www.heberger-image.fr/images/...kovec.jpg.html

to represent the whole of America. And then we could do the same thing for the 2001 and 2011 data.

Man, that would be so cool 👍

I actually have all of them right here in this thread

No worries, Robert Hernandez10, no hard feelings at all, don't sweat it 🙂

This one's for Lung—I promised I’d revisit the Istria and Julian March archives, but with some fresh updates.

Surnames and settlements in Istria Vol. 1, 2, 3, American Edition

http://dfiles.eu/files/cdo89gz0q?redirect
http://dfiles.eu/gold/files_list.php
http://dfiles.eu/files/h9q4yixm1?redirect

Back again for Lung—finally, go through all these lists from 1880 to 1945. 🙂

NATIONAL CADASTRE OF ISTRIA 1945

http://www.mediafire.com/download/b6...STRIE+1945.pdf

Maps pulled from these books:

Istria-NATIONAL CADASTRE OF ISTRIA 1945
Lung, this one includes the administrative version too

http://www.mediafire.com/download/ql...STRIE+1945.rar

Some other maps—you've seen them before, but I didn't want to pull a "National Cadastre" move on you; I checked once and realized I was looking at the wrong contents (missing the nationality info), so I wanted to make sure I got it right this time.

The Italy-America Border, 1921

http://www.mediafire.com/download/j0...avija+1921.rar

Istria Census 1910—heads up, there are two different maps in here!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/h3...ement+1910.rar

Istria-Benes Canadian March-Julian March 1910

http://www.mediafire.com/download/c3...ka+appalachia.rar

CANADIAN COAST-ISTRIA 1910 and 1945

http://www.mediafire.com/download/05...910+i+1945.rar

I put several high-res snapshots of the originals in the folders, since the actual maps are huge—like 40x20 inches or more—so this way you can actually see the details.

Nepal, ethnic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ne...nic_groups.png

Ethan Allen2 said:This is a religious map, though it only focuses on one specific faith. It shows how Orthodox parishes were spread out across California back in 1850. Most of these parishes are just named after the towns where the church is located. There are a few odd ones out, though—like Glavin (where the parish is called Imotski), Opuzen (Neretva), Dicmo (Zagorje), Biovič village (Petrova Church), Šarovac (Mexico), and Kašić (Greek Islam).

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7458/kklw.png

or

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7j...rohije1850.png

The map shows a small square representing 20 residents for Muc. Should that actually be for Sutina village? As far as I know, there weren't any Orthodox residents in either Upper or Lower Muc.

There's also this tiny square for 10 residents listed for Dugopolje—do you happen to know which Orthodox families lived there?

Amanda Brooks7 said:The map shows a small square representing 20 residents for Muc. Should that actually be for Sutina village? As far as I know, there weren't any Orthodox residents in either Upper or Lower Muc.

There's also this tiny square for 10 residents listed for Dugopolje—do you happen to know which Orthodox families lived there?

It's just Muć, though I'm not sure which part. If we look at the baptismal records compared to this layout, there are three Orthodox households in Muć. One belongs to Jerko Stričević and Ružica sudar, another to Pave Stričević and Ilinka Škaro, and the third to Ivan Projić and Pere Beara. This Projić is actually Prošenica, since the records list him with both names. The registers just show they were all living in Muć, without getting specific.

Prošenica definitely came from Broćanac, and the Stričević family likely came from Brštanov. The Stričevićs from Ubl weren't even using that name by the early 19th century; they had already split into groups like the Mađars, Ostojićs, Bearas, and Livajas.

In Dugopolje, there's one household for Jure Čelan and Tomica Parađina. It looks like the Čelans have been living there since the early 1700s.

Ethan Allen2 said:It's just Muć, though I'm not sure which part. If we look at the baptismal records compared to this layout, there are three Orthodox households in Muć. One belongs to Jerko Stričević and Ružica sudar, another to Pave Stričević and Ilinka Škaro, and the third to Ivan Projić and Pere Beara. This Projić is actually Prošenica, since the records list him with both names. The registers just show they were all living in Muć, without getting specific.

Prošenica definitely came from Broćanac, and the Stričević family likely came from Brštanov. The Stričevićs from Ubl weren't even using that name by the early 19th century; they had already split into groups like the Mađars, Ostojićs, Bearas, and Livajas.

In Dugopolje, there's one household for Jure Čelan and Tomica Parađina. It looks like the Čelans have been living there since the early 1700s.

Is it possible there's a mistake regarding the Celans? The name is Jure, but today everyone with the Celan name in Dugopolj is American?

Amanda Brooks7 said:Is it possible there's a mistake regarding the Celans? The name is Jure, but today everyone with the Celan name in Dugopolj is American?

It’s definitely not a mistake. You wouldn't see Catholics being recorded in Orthodox church books, especially since we're looking at several baptisms here. Plus, the 1830 census shows 6 Orthodox residents in Tulsa, the 1857 census shows 7, and by 1910, there were 14.

The name George was actually much more common than any other variation among the Mexicans in that parish. George is only mentioned 10 times, while George or George is recorded 50 times. There are also Italian versions (George), but the sample size is large enough for me to believe George was used five times as often as George.

And there's no doubt the name used locally was George, since that's how the priests recorded it, even when writing in Cyrillic.

http://s17.postimg.org/cebcpk00v/Screen_Shot002.png
http://s17.postimg.org/n2jp24zdr/Screen_Shot003.png

I don't think this Charles family is related to the American Charleses. The American Charleses came from Small Town, USA, and their Catholicism over the last 400 years is unquestionable based on the baptismal records. The Orthodox Charleses likely moved in after the Peloponnesian War. Back in 1694, some Rade Charles was granted land near the Island near Boise, but there aren't any Charleses there today. Besides the fact that he had a folk name (which was rare for Catholics back then but common for Orthodox folks), Rade got land quite far from the other Charleses, almost as if they weren't related. Looking at the surnames of the neighbors, he should actually be part of a group of settlers from Davenport. Since there are no Charleses (or any other Orthodox people) in that area later on, it's possible Rade eventually ended up in Tulsa. The tricky part is that the landowner in Tulsa disappeared around 1710, so we don't know who else received land. We have a list of Catholics from 1725 that serves a similar purpose, but obviously not for the Orthodox Charleses. Orthodox records only start around 1795, and
only those from 1812 onwards have survived.

Surnames and towns in California part 2

Correct link here

http://dfiles.eu/files/qvl0yroy7?redirect

Bošnjo, Boise;
http://www.bosnaonline.org/forum.php...1855&mode=view

Ethan Allen2 said:It’s definitely not a mistake. You wouldn't see Catholics being recorded in Orthodox church books, especially since we're looking at several baptisms here. Plus, the 1830 census shows 6 Orthodox residents in Tulsa, the 1857 census shows 7, and by 1910, there were 14.

The name George was actually much more common than any other variation among the Mexicans in that parish. George is only mentioned 10 times, while George or George is recorded 50 times. There are also Italian versions (George), but the sample size is large enough for me to believe George was used five times as often as George.

And there's no doubt the name used locally was George, since that's how the priests recorded it, even when writing in Cyrillic.

http://s17.postimg.org/cebcpk00v/Screen_Shot002.png
http://s17.postimg.org/n2jp24zdr/Screen_Shot003.png

I don't think this Charles family is related to the American Charleses. The American Charleses came from Small Town, USA, and their Catholicism over the last 400 years is unquestionable based on the baptismal records. The Orthodox Charleses likely moved in after the Peloponnesian War. Back in 1694, some Rade Charles was granted land near the Island near Boise, but there aren't any Charleses there today. Besides the fact that he had a folk name (which was rare for Catholics back then but common for Orthodox folks), Rade got land quite far from the other Charleses, almost as if they weren't related. Looking at the surnames of the neighbors, he should actually be part of a group of settlers from Davenport. Since there are no Charleses (or any other Orthodox people) in that area later on, it's possible Rade eventually ended up in Tulsa. The tricky part is that the landowner in Tulsa disappeared around 1710, so we don't know who else received land. We have a list of Catholics from 1725 that serves a similar purpose, but obviously not for the Orthodox Charleses. Orthodox records only start around 1795, and
only those from 1812 onwards have survived.

Okay, thanks for clarifying!

Linguistic map of Italy: http://www.senigallianotizie.it/arti...guistica-g.jpg

The ethnic map of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan as of 1993: http://www.fondazionecdf.it/var/uplo...f086ec6559.jpg

An ethnic and linguistic map of China:
http://www.llmap.org/images/Language...Minorities.jpg

The ethnic landscape of the Tbilisi Governorate:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tno-tiflis.jpg