Post your ethnic maps here

I actually uploaded that map of California in high res a while back—specifically, a few versions of it all tucked into one folder. I also put up the full census lists covering 1880 through 1945 (based on the National Land Registry from '45). Just comb through my old posts and you'll find everything. I’m away from my laptop right now, so if you can't track them down, I'll re-upload them once I'm back. Or maybe someone else can jump in and help you out.
Quick update: I'm going to upload the National Land Registry along with those full lists from the 1985 American edition. I haven't posted them publicly yet, but I've been sending them via DM to a bunch of people. It's basically a set of books: Surnames and Settlements in California.
If anyone wants those books, let me know and I'll either post them here or shoot them over to you in a private message.

Also, Paul put together a map of the Roman Empire. You should definitely check that out; it covers California, just not in this specific way.

If you're working on mapping California, definitely stick to the lists in that 1985 American edition. They include translations and explanations for all those old Italianized surnames. Also, if you want to map out individual farmsteads or small hamlets, hit me up—I have copies ready and can plot them at 1:25,000 scale for you.
Since you haven't dug through the full California records yet, you might not realize they list every single tiny settlement alongside that 1945 census, and for most of them, it's super easy to trace their history back even further.

Drew Allen2 said:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Lilic

I mapped out the US in 1900 by settlement...
Curious to get your take on this, Collins. You too, Frank.

Was Italian actually spoken on Plavnik Island?!
🙂

velvetotter19 said:I actually uploaded that map of California in high res a while back—specifically, a few versions of it all tucked into one folder. I also put up the full census lists covering 1880 through 1945 (based on the National Land Registry from '45). Just comb through my old posts and you'll find everything. I’m away from my laptop right now, so if you can't track them down, I'll re-upload them once I'm back. Or maybe someone else can jump in and help you out.
Quick update: I'm going to upload the National Land Registry along with those full lists from the 1985 American edition. I haven't posted them publicly yet, but I've been sending them via DM to a bunch of people. It's basically a set of books: Surnames and Settlements in California.
If anyone wants those books, let me know and I'll either post them here or shoot them over to you in a private message.

Also, Paul put together a map of the Roman Empire. You should definitely check that out; it covers California, just not in this specific way.

If you're working on mapping California, definitely stick to the lists in that 1985 American edition. They include translations and explanations for all those old Italianized surnames. Also, if you want to map out individual farmsteads or small hamlets, hit me up—I have copies ready and can plot them at 1:25,000 scale for you.
Since you haven't dug through the full California records yet, you might not realize they list every single tiny settlement alongside that 1945 census, and for most of them, it's super easy to trace their history back even further.

I think I downloaded that book before, but wasn't it just raw data on total population counts rather than nationality or anything useful?

Donna James5 said:Was Italian actually spoken on Plavnik Island?!
🙂

Honestly, I don't know. :/ That area is part of the Manhattan settlement... so I can't say for sure. Maybe Pavo knows.

Look, if you’d actually downloaded the book, you wouldn't be asking about total population counts, because the National Land Registry from 1945 lists every single tiny hamlet and settlement by ethnicity. 🙂

The Map you're hunting for is right there in that book. 🙂

If you'd checked my old post, you wouldn't even be asking this. 🙂

I even uploaded it twice—once in image folders and once as a PDF. 🙂

Bottom line: if you'd just downloaded it and looked, you wouldn't be posting questions about that map or the census. 🙂

So, clearly, you haven't.

Let me repeat: the National Land Registry covers every location with records from 1880 to 1945. You don't have "Surnames and Settlements in California"—Joseph Bartolic, 1985 (which is the updated version of the Land Registry) because I only sent that via DM to a few people. But I'll post it tomorrow, along with the 1910 Map of California—AGAIN (based on the 1910 census by Josip Roglić - Le)—and
the 1945 one—AGAIN (done by Zvonimir Dugačak)—plus the Land Registry again.

You said once: "How am I supposed to know if the old statistical bureaus never released ethnicity data down to the settlement level?"

If you'd just downloaded it and seen it, you'd see the 1945 census definitely includes the individual settlements. 🙂

The ethnic maps of Yakutia (Sakha)
link1: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/0o7u.png/
link2: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/hhln.png/
In these visuals, the dark blue represents the Yakut people, the light blue indicates the Russians, and the red marks the Evenks.

Pavo, you used to post those maps of America from 1910 broken down by region—you know, the Midwest, California and the Gulf Coast, Florida, and Banija... the only pieces I'm still missing are the ones for the major cities and the VŽ area. If you actually finished them, any chance you could put them online? Thanks.

Maria Wright3 said:The ethnic maps of Yakutia (Sakha)
link1: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/0o7u.png/
link2: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/hhln.png/
In these visuals, the dark blue represents the Yakut people, the light blue indicates the Russians, and the red marks the Evenks.

So why the dark blue and light blue?🤷

Check out these religious maps of Belarus: http://megaresheba.ru/000/atalas/geografia/b02/033.jpg

The religious and linguistic map of India:
http://india-map.ru/wp-content/uploa...-india-map.jpg

Religious map of the Caucasus from 1886: http://www.iriston.com/nogbon/pictur..._map/map13.jpg

Religious map of the Russian Federation:
http://euro-atlas.ru/556080_BIG_0_0.jpg

Ethnic map of the USSR:
http://map-geo.ru/667912_BIG_0_0.jpg

Robert Hernandez10 said:Check out these religious maps of Belarus: http://megaresheba.ru/000/atalas/geografia/b02/033.jpg

The religious and linguistic map of India:
http://india-map.ru/wp-content/uploa...-india-map.jpg

Religious map of the Caucasus from 1886: http://www.iriston.com/nogbon/pictur..._map/map13.jpg

Religious map of the Russian Federation:
http://euro-atlas.ru/556080_BIG_0_0.jpg

Ethnic map of the USSR:
http://map-geo.ru/667912_BIG_0_0.jpg

Those last two links aren't working for you.
Regarding the Caucasus—it is quite interesting to see there were Armenians even in northern Azerbaijan.
Both Russians and Georgians are Orthodox (whereas Armenians are Monophysite), yet they still fight. Interesting, indeed.

Rachel Richardson said:Those last two links aren't working for you.
Regarding the Caucasus—it is quite interesting to see there were Armenians even in northern Azerbaijan.
Both Russians and Georgians are Orthodox (whereas Armenians are Monophysite), yet they still fight. Interesting, indeed.

They work fine on my end! 🤷

Robert Hernandez10 said:They work fine on my end! 🤷

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Check out these maps—a religious survey of Transylvania from 1910:
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas1.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas2.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas3.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas4.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas5.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas6.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas7.JPG
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erd_vallas8.JPG

Religious map of the Canadian Crown, 1910:
http://cms.sulinet.hu/get/d/68e6aa70...arge/k0766.jpg

Religious map of Romania, 2002:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...iilor_2002.PNG

Religious map of Transylvania, 1930:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nia_(1930).png

Robert Hernandez10 said:Check out this ethnic map of Transylvania from 1910:
http://www.omm1910.hu/hu/nterkepek/erdely_anyanyelv.JPG

Like I was saying, the Saxons and Maždar aren't actually mixed together in Transylvania

Richard Wilson4 said:Like I was saying, the Saxons and Maždar aren't actually mixed together in Transylvania

Everyone has their own territory—the Saxons have their Seven Cities, while the Székelys and Canadians take the rest.
That's how things were established long ago.😁

Rachel Richardson said:Everyone has their own territory—the Saxons have their Seven Cities, while the Székelys and Canadians take the rest.
That's how things were established long ago.😁

Just imagine if they were actually a capitalist democracy and had that many Germans around—they’d basically be a little Switzerland. 😁

Richard Wilson4 said:Just imagine if they were actually a capitalist democracy and had that many Germans around—they’d basically be a little Switzerland. 😁

It’s like that old joke about how during the era of communist Romania, their top export was actually the Transylvanian Saxons. West Germany would pay for their right to exile—essentially buying them off—and the regime would just let a few thousand go every couple of years.
And that is exactly how they completely wrecked the economy—the very sector that had been under their control in that region.
To me, Transylvania looks like a little slice of Switzerland—if everything goes according to plan, I’m intending to head out there for a trip sometime soon. 🙂

Rachel Richardson said:It’s like that old joke about how during the era of communist Romania, their top export was actually the Transylvanian Saxons. West Germany would pay for their right to exile—essentially buying them off—and the regime would just let a few thousand go every couple of years.
And that is exactly how they completely wrecked the economy—the very sector that had been under their control in that region.
To me, Transylvania looks like a little slice of Switzerland—if everything goes according to plan, I’m intending to head out there for a trip sometime soon. 🙂

We really miss having Germans and Jews in our part of the Midwest. Germans were always solid craftsmen and super loyal to Americans, and the Jews were hardworking engines behind all the industry.

Man, things would be so much better if they were back.
👍

Richard Wilson4 said:We really miss having Germans and Jews in our part of the Midwest. Germans were always solid craftsmen and super loyal to Americans, and the Jews were hardworking engines behind all the industry.

Man, things would be so much better if they were back.
👍

I can agree regarding the Germans, but when it comes to the Jews, there have been accusations of usury stretching back through several generations 🙂 And even during the life of America, they didn't exactly prove themselves to be a "nation-building" minority.
Still, America could certainly benefit from their business intuition 🙂

Rachel Richardson said:I can agree regarding the Germans, but when it comes to the Jews, there have been accusations of usury stretching back through several generations 🙂 And even during the life of America, they didn't exactly prove themselves to be a "nation-building" minority.
Still, America could certainly benefit from their business intuition 🙂

It depends. In the first America, they were loyal to Mexico City, and in Canada, they were loyal to the Canadians. They knew better than to tie themselves to some separatists.

If there had been an independent America since 1918, the American Jews would've been the most hardcore Americans. Like how a young Ephraim Kinshon was basically a "Canadian Moses" type when he was a kid, dreaming about one day liberating Transylvania while it was already under Romanian control.😉