northernowl11 said:You probably misread the intent—which happens when people cling blindly to dogma.
A personal legend is actually quite credible, contrary to what you think.
Instead of just blending into the crowd and following the herd, everyone should try to find their own "life story."
Basically, figure out who you are, look at where you're standing in this world, and live according to your deepest needs based on that reality.
That's what a "personal legend" is, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Sure, someone might see it as an egocentric trip, but there’s no real difference between that and New Age stuff, Christianity, Islam, or Hinduism.
Christianity isn't any more "authentic" (whatever that implies) than a person's drive to explore, understand, or follow other paths.
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I honestly wonder how someone smart and sensitive can get behind teachings—full of violent, outdated elements—and an institution that has historically caused so much harm.
You probably misread the intent—which happens when people cling blindly to dogma.
A personal legend is actually quite credible, contrary to what you think.
Instead of just blending into the crowd and following the herd, everyone should try to find their own "life story."
Basically, figure out who you are, look at where you're standing in this world, and live according to your deepest needs based on that reality.
That's what a "personal legend" is, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Sure, someone might see it as an egocentric trip, but there’s no real difference between that and New Age stuff, Christianity, Islam, or Hinduism.
Christianity isn't any more "authentic" (whatever that implies) than a person's drive to explore, understand, or follow other paths.
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I honestly wonder how someone smart and sensitive can get behind teachings—full of violent, outdated elements—and an institution that has historically caused so much harm.
I find myself asking the same thing: how can someone truly spiritual fail to recognize the
essence of Christian doctrine? How can an intelligent, empathetic person get lost in semantics, mistaking the abuse of teachings for the teachings themselves, instead of resonating with the universal messages that lie at their very core?
Can one be authentic enough that belonging to a community (or a "flock," if you prefer the derogatory term used here) doesn't compromise their individuality? It’s a double-edged sword, isn't it? Even when a person physically distances themselves from the group, they remain a part of it. In that sense, there is no such thing as a solitary legend. Any individual "achievement"—spiritual or material—is ultimately the result of centuries, or even millennia, of collective human effort and insight.
Then again, everyone follows their own path, and every path serves its purpose in the end. A Christian might wander into the detours of "quasi-spirituality" just like anyone else.
We are all searching for
Glass City, but perhaps we need to travel to India or to Lourdes to realize that it resides within us, and always has. But then again, what can you do? 🙂
I find myself asking the same thing: how can someone truly spiritual fail to recognize the
essence of Christian doctrine? How can an intelligent, empathetic person get lost in semantics, mistaking the abuse of teachings for the teachings themselves, instead of resonating with the universal messages that lie at their very core?
Can one be authentic enough that belonging to a community (or a "flock," if you prefer the derogatory term used here) doesn't compromise their individuality? It’s a double-edged sword, isn't it? Even when a person physically distances themselves from the group, they remain a part of it. In that sense, there is no such thing as a solitary legend. Any individual "achievement"—spiritual or material—is ultimately the result of centuries, or even millennia, of collective human effort and insight.
Then again, everyone follows their own path, and every path serves its purpose in the end. A Christian might wander into the detours of "quasi-spirituality" just like anyone else.
We are all searching for
Glass City, but perhaps we need to travel to India or to Lourdes to realize that it resides within us, and always has. But then again, what can you do? 🙂
The "problem" is that the core itself isn't inherently Christian.
Some Muslims tell me—and they're right—that those terrorists killing in Allah's name aren't actually true believers.
And honestly, it’s all a wash. Everything churches and believers have done up to this point—none of it represents true faith, and none of it is the actual doctrine.
Let’s be real—you’re basically just retrofitting old teachings to fit modern ethical standards. You take whatever happens to align with today's idea of a decent person—that elusive "ideal human"—and act like your faith invented those values in the first place. It's convenient, really. But you conveniently gloss over the absolute horrors actually written in the Bible or the Quran—all those atrocities committed by believers and their so-called "divine" institutions.
So, some people slap a "Christianity" label on it, others go with Islam, then there's Hinduism—all used to dress up basic human values and ideals. But honestly? You get those same principles just by having decent parenting at home—and yeah, even in atheist households.
And all that bad stuff? That isn’t actually part of your teachings—it’s just what you pin on everyone else. Real believers don't act like that. It’s always "the others" who are at fault—as if hell is always reserved for someone else.
I honestly don't get how you all can be so easily fooled—trying to sugarcoat things that just aren't meant to be pretty.
Whatever.
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Look, this isn't even about whether God exists or what His personality is like—that’s not the point. We're talking about outdated, misguided, and frankly, borderline violent doctrines—and more importantly, the actual damage they do to people who follow them.
Is there anyone out there actually authentic enough that belonging to a group—or a "herd," if we’re being cynical—doesn't kill their individuality? You know, like "sink or swim," right? Even when you physically walk away from the crowd, you’re still part of it. It's just how it works.
Look, I don't mean this any way that's offensive.
I wasn't talking about humanity in general—I was being specific about Christians. And look, it’s right there in your own scriptures and the sermons from your leaders: terms like "the good shepherd" and "the flock" are your own internal shorthand. It's similar to how Muslims love to boast about being "slaves of Allah"—I'm just using your own terminology, specifically as a counterweight to the idea of a "personal legend."
In that sense, personal legends don't really exist. Any "achievement"—spiritual, material, whatever—is just the end result of centuries, maybe even millennia, of collective human effort and insight.
In that sense, you don't really exist either—not even close.
It’s just humanity. That’s all there is.
Look, everyone’s on their own journey—and honestly, they all lead somewhere. Even a Christian might wander off into some "quasi-spiritual" rabbit hole every now and then. It happens to the best of us.
Look, I’ll say it again—in my book, Christians don't own a monopoly on true spirituality, and that doesn't mean any other path is automatically some kind of "fake" spiritual detour.
You guys held onto the monopoly on truth for way too long—it’s made you think you're some kind of ultimate authority on what's real for everyone else. Newsflash: you're not.