I am Mother (Netflix) (2019)

dustyfalcon122 said:I don't see what the Trolley problem has to do with anything here.
It was just a cheap little trick used to show how Mother "learns" ethics.
A cheap trick for the masses, sure, but effective.

A cheap trick? So, in your opinion, what’s actually at the heart of the trolley problem?

dustyfalcon122 said:First off, Mother wiped out humans; they didn't just do it to themselves. She basically said she was just getting ahead of them before they could finish the job, and Woman actually confirms that point.
Woman is the "wild card." Mother couldn't possibly have known what kind of lesson the Daughter would take away from this, and honestly, the lesson you're talking about could have been delivered much more easily without Woman being there at all.

For some reason, you're taking the plot way too literally on one hand (saying things like "the apocalypse isn't defined and feels unrealistic based on what we saw"), but then on the other hand, you're pushing this heavy "metaphorical" angle.

Well, yeah. Logically? The story doesn't hold up. Metaphorically? It works perfectly.

Mother isn't cruel. Cruelty is a human trait; she's just incredibly efficient in her pursuit of a final, sublime goal.

Since I'm a human being myself, from my perspective, Mother *is* cruel. Just like God in the Great Flood or Sodom.

And why on earth are you using the forced term "omnipresent" when there's a perfectly good American word right there? 😁

I just didn't think of it, 😁

Where exactly did she say that?

dustyfalcon122 said:First off, Mother wiped out humans; they didn't just do it to themselves. She basically said she was just getting ahead of them before they could finish the job, and Woman actually confirms that point.
Woman is the "wild card." Mother couldn't possibly have known what kind of lesson the Daughter would take away from this, and honestly, the lesson you're talking about could have been delivered much more easily without Woman being there at all.

For some reason, you're taking the plot way too literally on one hand (saying things like "the apocalypse isn't defined and feels unrealistic based on what we saw"), but then on the other hand, you're pushing this heavy "metaphorical" angle.

Well, yeah. Logically? The story doesn't hold up. Metaphorically? It works perfectly.

Mother isn't cruel. Cruelty is a human trait; she's just incredibly efficient in her pursuit of a final, sublime goal.

Since I'm a human being myself, from my perspective, Mother *is* cruel. Just like God in the Great Flood or Sodom.

And why on earth are you using the forced term "omnipresent" when there's a perfectly good American word right there? 😁

I just didn't think of it, 😁

How exactly did she confirm that?

dustyfalcon122 said:First off, Mother wiped out humans; they didn't just do it to themselves. She basically said she was just getting ahead of them before they could finish the job, and Woman actually confirms that point.
Woman is the "wild card." Mother couldn't possibly have known what kind of lesson the Daughter would take away from this, and honestly, the lesson you're talking about could have been delivered much more easily without Woman being there at all.

For some reason, you're taking the plot way too literally on one hand (saying things like "the apocalypse isn't defined and feels unrealistic based on what we saw"), but then on the other hand, you're pushing this heavy "metaphorical" angle.

Well, yeah. Logically? The story doesn't hold up. Metaphorically? It works perfectly.

Mother isn't cruel. Cruelty is a human trait; she's just incredibly efficient in her pursuit of a final, sublime goal.

Since I'm a human being myself, from my perspective, Mother *is* cruel. Just like God in the Great Flood or Sodom.

And why on earth are you using the forced term "omnipresent" when there's a perfectly good American word right there? 😁

I just didn't think of it, 😁

Ever actually heard the term "empirical evidence" thrown around before?

dustyfalcon122 said:First off, Mother wiped out humans; they didn't just do it to themselves. She basically said she was just getting ahead of them before they could finish the job, and Woman actually confirms that point.
Woman is the "wild card." Mother couldn't possibly have known what kind of lesson the Daughter would take away from this, and honestly, the lesson you're talking about could have been delivered much more easily without Woman being there at all.

For some reason, you're taking the plot way too literally on one hand (saying things like "the apocalypse isn't defined and feels unrealistic based on what we saw"), but then on the other hand, you're pushing this heavy "metaphorical" angle.

Well, yeah. Logically? The story doesn't hold up. Metaphorically? It works perfectly.

Mother isn't cruel. Cruelty is a human trait; she's just incredibly efficient in her pursuit of a final, sublime goal.

Since I'm a human being myself, from my perspective, Mother *is* cruel. Just like God in the Great Flood or Sodom.

And why on earth are you using the forced term "omnipresent" when there's a perfectly good American word right there? 😁

I just didn't think of it, 😁

Whatever works for you. I guess if you happen to be better at one thing than another, life just plays out a little smoother on your end.

dustyfalcon122 said:First off, Mother wiped out humans; they didn't just do it to themselves. She basically said she was just getting ahead of them before they could finish the job, and Woman actually confirms that point.
Woman is the "wild card." Mother couldn't possibly have known what kind of lesson the Daughter would take away from this, and honestly, the lesson you're talking about could have been delivered much more easily without Woman being there at all.

For some reason, you're taking the plot way too literally on one hand (saying things like "the apocalypse isn't defined and feels unrealistic based on what we saw"), but then on the other hand, you're pushing this heavy "metaphorical" angle.

Well, yeah. Logically? The story doesn't hold up. Metaphorically? It works perfectly.

Mother isn't cruel. Cruelty is a human trait; she's just incredibly efficient in her pursuit of a final, sublime goal.

Since I'm a human being myself, from my perspective, Mother *is* cruel. Just like God in the Great Flood or Sodom.

And why on earth are you using the forced term "omnipresent" when there's a perfectly good American word right there? 😁

I just didn't think of it, 😁

Someone once put it perfectly: Mother is completely rational. It’s not that she lacks emotion—it’s just that her logic always comes first, making emotions nothing more than an afterthought.

Total waste of time
Honestly, you could stare at a blank wall and have a better experience... that’s coming from someone like me who can sit through a movie for seven days straight without blinking.

Great.
Believe me, I missed this one until today.

People argue about all kinds of garbage constantly, yet a movie like this flies completely under the radar.

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Did anyone else realize that Woman was actually the first failed test?
I didn't, I have to admit.

Everything makes sense to me now except for two things.

1. Why did Mother ask Woman where the mines were located where those supposed humans are hiding?
Especially if she already knew this woman was living alone in a shipping container.

2. Does that final look from Daughter suggest she is also partially a robot, and that Mother's consciousness has transferred to her?

One more thing.

This new American actress is incredibly talented and beautiful.

Motherici and Jexi are actually voiced by the exact same actress.