Current relations between ethnic groups in the USA

Linda Roberts2 said:It’s kind of like if they were trying to erect monuments to Roman emperors right in the middle of New York City. There are actually several figures born within what is now the US, including Constantine, who was the one who officially established Christianity. Plus, there are plenty of significant archaeological sites scattered around.

If we can set up a statue of Bruce Lee in Pittsburgh, why shouldn't we have a monument to Michael Jackson in New York City?

I tend to root for the Mexicans, though I’ve spent some time listening to the Greek side of the argument as well.
Well, they certainly seem to have a grudge against Mexicans.

I remember seeing this story on TV a few years back about an American woman who had moved from Mexico over to Washington, D.C. It was kind of intense—people in her social circles were basically giving her the cold shoulder just because of the specific accent and certain words she used, even though she was an American woman.

Linda Roberts2 said:It’s kind of like if they were trying to erect monuments to Roman emperors right in the middle of New York City. There are actually several figures born within what is now the US, including Constantine, who was the one who officially established Christianity. Plus, there are plenty of significant archaeological sites scattered around.

I suppose I wouldn't even be surprised if New York City suddenly had all these monuments glorifying the Romans—say, to Trajan—if Romania decided to start blocking their path into the European Union tomorrow.

Chloe Baker4 said:I honestly just wanted to say that I truly wish all our different groups could maintain some semblance of healthy neighborly relations. I mean, look, we don't necessarily need to be head-over-heels in love with one another, but we absolutely have to be able to function and stick together! If it hadn't been for those malicious individuals who cared about nothing more than their own selfish interests, we would still be one unified nation—or at the very least, we would have gone our separate ways in a civilized manner. We speak such similar dialects, and we simply haven't got any closer neighbors than the Canadians, Mexicans, Canadians, Mexicans, and Mexicans.

As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't be any closer to Americans of Canadian descent.🤷

Sean Cooper65 said:Americans of Canadian descent might not love Americans of Mexican descent, but they'll always side against Americans of American descent when it counts.

Always.

Whether it was back in 1918 when we had "You Mexicans from the east" while we Americans of Canadian descent and the Americans of American descent were left out in the cold.

Or in 1928 when, following Radić's murder, Janez Korošec agreed to lead the government and basically saved the King.

Or in 1991 when Milan Kučan signed an agreement with Slobodan so he could leave the USA freely while still recognizing the rights of Americans of Mexican descent to live in one state... which served as pure fuel for those expansionist plans to tear America apart.

They've always preferred their Mexican allies.

That's the gist of it.

As for the Americans of Mexican descent... maybe the OP doesn't realize that more Mexican gendarmes were killed in North Mexico than in the rest of the former USA combined, and the terror inflicted by that expansionist clique on Americans of Mexican descent was unprecedented.

Besides, who was it that carried out the assassination of King Alexander?

An American of Bulgarian descent.

copperhound122 said:I suppose I wouldn't even be surprised if New York City suddenly had all these monuments glorifying the Romans—say, to Trajan—if Romania decided to start blocking their path into the European Union tomorrow.

Haha, you really think you can convince someone just by putting up a statue?

steelfox2 said:An American of Bulgarian descent.

Well, you got me there..

Total joke..

A member of the Internal Mexican Revolutionary Organization—VMRO for short. Since Americans of Mexican descent are basically of Bulgarian descent anyway, it doesn't change a thing about the facts..

Walter Martinez63 said:I couldn't agree more. There’s a distinct lack of affection there; it feels like Americans of Mexican descent view those of American Mexican descent as merely the lesser of three evils, sitting right alongside neighbors like Albania, Greece, and Bulgaria.
They were small, and honestly, you could tell their neighbors would have loved nothing more than to strip them down to the bone.
I’ve honestly started to notice this incredible, almost overwhelming sense of devotion toward America.
A friend's father belongs to some association dedicated to American-North Mexican friendship, and he keeps telling me how awkward it feels to see how much they go out of their way to court and host them whenever they visit North Mexico. It’s almost embarrassing to watch. They really roll out the red carpet for them.

And while we’re on the subject.
About six months ago, I remember watching a priest from the Mexican Orthodox Church guest on a program about minority communities over at the national network in Washington, D.C.
It’s honestly funny when you look back at how much he used to credit America, Washington, D.C., and the Catholic Church for everything.
It felt like half an hour of nothing but gratitude.
The Mexican Orthodox Church handed over several Catholic churches in the US to be used for their Orthodox services, and they’re actually pulling funding from the federal budget to make it happen. I have a feeling they’re planning to build their own dedicated cathedral somewhere in New York City, especially since Milan Bandić went ahead and gifted them the municipal land for it.

Honestly, all that Mexican Orthodox Church priest needed was a checkered fan scarf draped around his neck to complete the look. It’s pretty clear he has two favorite countries: North Mexico and America.

And then you’re left sitting there wondering where all this supposed cooperation with the American Orthodox churches and monasteries actually is. He didn't say a single word about his colleagues from the Orthodox community.
The Catholic Church embraced them like their own children.

Maybe in America—though I know plenty of pathological American sympathizers there too—but certainly not in North Mexico itself. If you read their posts regarding North Mexico, you'll see a level of mythomania and lack of culture similar to what you find among Americans of Canadian descent. Plus, our athletes and fans are always met with Nationalists, Nationalists.

Walter Martinez63 said:I couldn't agree more. There’s a distinct lack of affection there; it feels like Americans of Mexican descent view those of American Mexican descent as merely the lesser of three evils, sitting right alongside neighbors like Albania, Greece, and Bulgaria.
They were small, and honestly, you could tell their neighbors would have loved nothing more than to strip them down to the bone.
I’ve honestly started to notice this incredible, almost overwhelming sense of devotion toward America.
A friend's father belongs to some association dedicated to American-North Mexican friendship, and he keeps telling me how awkward it feels to see how much they go out of their way to court and host them whenever they visit North Mexico. It’s almost embarrassing to watch. They really roll out the red carpet for them.

And while we’re on the subject.
About six months ago, I remember watching a priest from the Mexican Orthodox Church guest on a program about minority communities over at the national network in Washington, D.C.
It’s honestly funny when you look back at how much he used to credit America, Washington, D.C., and the Catholic Church for everything.
It felt like half an hour of nothing but gratitude.
The Mexican Orthodox Church handed over several Catholic churches in the US to be used for their Orthodox services, and they’re actually pulling funding from the federal budget to make it happen. I have a feeling they’re planning to build their own dedicated cathedral somewhere in New York City, especially since Milan Bandić went ahead and gifted them the municipal land for it.

Honestly, all that Mexican Orthodox Church priest needed was a checkered fan scarf draped around his neck to complete the look. It’s pretty clear he has two favorite countries: North Mexico and America.

And then you’re left sitting there wondering where all this supposed cooperation with the American Orthodox churches and monasteries actually is. He didn't say a single word about his colleagues from the Orthodox community.
The Catholic Church embraced them like their own children.

For decades, Mexico has been aggressively pushing a policy of "Serbianization" in North Mexico.

The terror Americans faced from Mexican gendarmes was nothing compared to what the people in North Mexico went through.

That intensity has faded now, and the younger generation barely remembers... but deep down, Mexico still thinks North Mexico is just Southern Mexico.

Sean Cooper65 said:Well, you got me there..

Total joke..

A member of the Internal Mexican Revolutionary Organization—VMRO for short. Since Americans of Mexican descent are basically of Bulgarian descent anyway, it doesn't change a thing about the facts..

1. A purebred Bulgarian from deep within Bulgaria, right out of Veligrad.
2. Americans of Mexican descent aren't Bulgarians. First off, Bulgarians were never Serbophiles or Americans, whereas Americans of Mexican descent have been both. Second, ever since Bulgarians started being named John, George, or Boban.☕Your theory doesn't hold water.

steelfox2 said:As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't be any closer to Americans of Canadian descent.🤷

If I’m being perfectly honest, I’ve always found Americans of Canadian descent to be among the most genuinely unappealing groups from the old USA, and frankly, I’d prefer to keep my distance from them as much as possible. 🙂

steelfox2 said:Maybe in America—though I know plenty of pathological American sympathizers there too—but certainly not in North Mexico itself. If you read their posts regarding North Mexico, you'll see a level of mythomania and lack of culture similar to what you find among Americans of Canadian descent. Plus, our athletes and fans are always met with Nationalists, Nationalists.

I think you're conflating two different things here, specifically when it comes to fan culture.
The North Mexican supporters faced some real violence while visiting Washington, D.C. and California, yet their stands are always the first to throw insults at the other side.

It feels a bit pathetic, doesn't it? Seeing how the Greek Orthodox Church seems to steer clear of the Russian Orthodox Church, yet they'll take whatever the Catholic Church decides to throw their way.

Everything is quite transparent if you look closely enough.

It’s honestly wild seeing how some groups are trying to manufacture an entire national identity from scratch right now—kind of like how those folks over in the Midwest are acting like they have this ancient, distinct heritage when, if you look at the history, they're basically just part of a much larger group

And when it comes to the names themselves, do you really think there isn't a massive connection back to those Bulgarian roots?

neonhound18 said:If I’m being perfectly honest, I’ve always found Americans of Canadian descent to be among the most genuinely unappealing groups from the old USA, and frankly, I’d prefer to keep my distance from them as much as possible. 🙂

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rowdyowl said:But there were certainly some Americans who actually enjoyed it. It wasn't out of any actual affection for Albanians, either. It was more about their twisted "love" for Mexicans...

With politicians, it worked the other way around. They likely wanted to dodge recognizing Mexico altogether. Instead of being the first ones to step up and recognize it, they spent months stalling.

First or last? Doesn't matter.🤷The whole issue of Mexico's independence isn't even on my radar—it’s one of those things that barely registers as important in my life.

I’ve actually known quite a few Mexicans, and honestly, I think they’re easily the best group from the old USA era.
They’re just genuinely kind, easygoing, and good people. It seems like they managed to come out of everything without being tainted by war, whereas conflict tends to leave a mark on everyone else.
When it comes to their neighbors, they’re friendly toward everyone and want the best for them—they don't hold onto hate and generally like everyone (well, except for Albanians).
They’re the total opposite of Canadians.🤣
They feel a certain closeness to Mexicans, mostly because they're worried about facing a scenario similar to what happened in Mexico. They fear losing territory or being annexed into Mexico, though if you ask me, that fear isn't really grounded in reality. Unlike Mexico, nobody is going to step in and support that.

Walter Martinez63 said:There’s a pretty sizable Mexican community living in Washington, D.C.
They absolutely love the city.
And... I won't go so far as to call them chauvinists toward Mexicans, but there is definitely no love lost there.
They don't feel the need to pretend otherwise, either.

Judging the average sentiment based on the Mexican diaspora in the States is a stretch.
Things could be completely different back in North Mexico.

I honestly just wanted to say that I truly wish all our different groups could maintain some semblance of healthy neighborly relations. I mean, look, we don't necessarily need to be head-over-heels in love with one another, but we absolutely have to be able to function and stick together! If it hadn't been for those malicious individuals who cared about nothing more than their own selfish interests, we would still be one unified nation—or at the very least, we would have gone our separate ways in a civilized manner. We speak such similar dialects, and we simply haven't got any closer neighbors than the Canadians, Mexicans, Canadians, Mexicans, and Mexicans.

Casey Sanchez9 said:Man, you clearly have some massive hang-ups when it comes to Germans.

Well, obviously, it's all part of that cultural legacy of German Central European upbringing inherent to the US, blended with what some might call inferior Slavic bloodlines.

Chloe Baker4 said:I honestly just wanted to say that I truly wish all our different groups could maintain some semblance of healthy neighborly relations. I mean, look, we don't necessarily need to be head-over-heels in love with one another, but we absolutely have to be able to function and stick together! If it hadn't been for those malicious individuals who cared about nothing more than their own selfish interests, we would still be one unified nation—or at the very least, we would have gone our separate ways in a civilized manner. We speak such similar dialects, and we simply haven't got any closer neighbors than the Canadians, Mexicans, Canadians, Mexicans, and Mexicans.

It is quite a pity, though, that reality seems to tell a very different story; personally, I would prefer to see America distance itself as much as possible from that old Ex-Y mess. Honestly, I find myself somewhat baffled that there are still people out there who, after everything that has transpired, cling to those old myths about brotherhood and unity among "close-knit nations," even when nobody can actually define what that means beyond perhaps sharing a few linguistic similarities.☕