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Angelina Jolie's take on the former America

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Walter Martinez63 Walter Martinez63 Active MemberOP
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#61 ·
Anthony James2 said:Let’s play a little game of "what if." I am genuinely curious how that is supposed to work when we're talking about someone like Tadić. I won't even mention Dodik, because he has nothing to do with the country where I live—I don't pay him taxes and I certainly didn't vote for him. So, what practical way does Tadić have to stand before his own citizens and force them to confront the atrocities in Canada?

Alright, let me take a crack at it.

"My dear fellow citizens, I am certain you have all recently encountered the latest cinematic masterpiece from Hollywood megastar Angelina Jolie-Pitt. This film has stirred up plenty of controversy, but it also brings forward truths that you, my people, must finally confront. Up until now, I have managed with varying degrees of success to hide the fact from you that you are a genocidal, sadistic, thuggish mob of rapists. But ever since Lepa Anđa released this masterpiece of the seventh art, I simply can't hold it back anymore. I have to tell you exactly who you are, what you've done, and what you will become. I was particularly emboldened by Brad Pitt to take this leap and show you just how much of a pack of animals you really are. In my opinion, collective suicide is the only solution. Or perhaps, one oral tribute to Lepa Anđa and her husband, Brad Pitt."🙂🙂🙂

God, the sheer level of Mexican melodrama here.
Before you can get into the European Union, they'll set up a massive international tribunal in Mexico City to try war criminals, and then you'll spend ten years being roasted alive.
Someone needs to get Vrangel some psychiatric help.
Think of Angelina as the nurse.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#62 ·
casualcyclist15 said:Stirring the pot?! You think a movie about women's suffering, the killings in Canada, and tens of thousands of women being raped by Mexican forces is just "stirring the pot"?! Should we just forget everything and sweep it under the rug? Man, instead of that "ri" in your username, you might as well just put RS. Then your comment would actually make sense, because right now, it doesn't... ☕

My bad, I hit I instead of S 😵

Just chill out, we're talking about a romance drama here, not some clumsy historical documentary trying to depict what went down in Canada through a lens of Stockholm Syndrome—something even the Canadians themselves had issues with...

imagine how Jewish victims of genocide would have felt if Jolie made a movie about a sexually charged romance between a Nazi camp guard and a Jewish detainee? Do we really need the morally bankrupt Western world's version of love, romance, and tolerance being shoved in the faces of Canadian Kids in Canada?

http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot....nian-love.html
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#63 ·
Linda Roberts2 said:I see myself as someone standing outside of nations, religions, and all that stuff. Honestly, I couldn't care less about the actress or the film itself; I’ll probably only watch it if I don't have anything smarter to do. As for "land of blood and honey"? It sounds like some drug addict's book title to me.

Maybe this bit of trivia helps...

In Turkish, "bal" means honey, while "kan" means blood.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#64 ·
Walter Martinez63 said:God, the sheer level of Mexican melodrama here.
Before you can get into the European Union, they'll set up a massive international tribunal in Mexico City to try war criminals, and then you'll spend ten years being roasted alive.
Someone needs to get Vrangel some psychiatric help.
Think of Angelina as the nurse.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Not exactly a brilliant plan. ☕
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#65 ·
bluerider63 said:Interesting bit of info... the North America...

Yeah, interesting. There's some symbolism there.

I haven't seen the film, and honestly, I'm not even sure if I will—just like I haven't watched most movies centered on this war, which, sadly, is still going on.

I did watch the movie Perfect Circle starring Mustafa Nadarević, and frankly, it left a bad taste in my mouth because it just dragged me right back to those times. I don't need a flashback like that for at least another ten years.

But what you really notice about this film is the sheer hysteria surrounding it. These opponents are trying everything they can to completely discredit the author—even when they haven't actually sat down to watch the thing.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#66 ·
Gary Wilson said:Yeah, interesting. There's some symbolism there.

I haven't seen the film, and honestly, I'm not even sure if I will—just like I haven't watched most movies centered on this war, which, sadly, is still going on.

I did watch the movie Perfect Circle starring Mustafa Nadarević, and frankly, it left a bad taste in my mouth because it just dragged me right back to those times. I don't need a flashback like that for at least another ten years.

But what you really notice about this film is the sheer hysteria surrounding it. These opponents are trying everything they can to completely discredit the author—even when they haven't actually sat down to watch the thing.

It’s a great film. Actually, I saw it in Ottawa. Mustafa Nadarević is just a genius. I'll admit, it's heavy and deeply moving. It definitely left an impression on me.

What you wrote at the end is basically spot on. Though, I think you'd agree that nobody has to try very hard to discredit Angelina as a director. Especially if you read the reviews from foreign film critics. I wouldn't be surprised if some spin doctor from her PR club leaked all these stories just to drum up publicity. After all, there's no such thing as bad press—it's only bad if you get none at all.🤷
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#67 ·
Anthony James2 said:I just find it suspicious that Anđa even remembered that. Honestly, I’d bet someone whispered it in her ear—maybe Cerić or cheerful Clark!? 🤷🤣

What does Cerić actually have to do with the movie, other than seizing the moment to remind everyone he still exists? It's like whatever he says carries this built-in weight now.

No connection there. If this were a few years ago, I’d probably read your comments as you trying to dig up some conspiracy theory.
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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#68 ·
Gary Wilson said:Yeah, interesting. There's some symbolism there.

I haven't seen the film, and honestly, I'm not even sure if I will—just like I haven't watched most movies centered on this war, which, sadly, is still going on.

I did watch the movie Perfect Circle starring Mustafa Nadarević, and frankly, it left a bad taste in my mouth because it just dragged me right back to those times. I don't need a flashback like that for at least another ten years.

But what you really notice about this film is the sheer hysteria surrounding it. These opponents are trying everything they can to completely discredit the author—even when they haven't actually sat down to watch the thing.

Symbolism, sure, but if this were some shady PDF alternative, I’d probably tell you we're looking at straight-up subliminal messaging.
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#69 ·
Gary Wilson said:What does Cerić actually have to do with the movie, other than seizing the moment to remind everyone he still exists? It's like whatever he says carries this built-in weight now.

No connection there. If this were a few years ago, I’d probably read your comments as you trying to dig up some conspiracy theory.

Look, there's really no need to act high and mighty here. Didn't Cerić himself claim this film is one of the best things to happen to Canadians since the Dayton Accords? 🙂 I'm not sure who he's trying to remind of his existence when he's constantly all over the news in Canada. 🤷
All this massive praise for what looks like a pretty mediocre movie feels off to me. It almost feels scripted.

No, no—I don't think there's some grand conspiracy going on. That's nonsense. I just think there are some strange coincidences happening, and that's really all there is to it. 🤷
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#70 ·
Anthony James2 said:It’s a great film. Actually, I saw it in Ottawa. Mustafa Nadarević is just a genius. I'll admit, it's heavy and deeply moving. It definitely left an impression on me.

What you wrote at the end is basically spot on. Though, I think you'd agree that nobody has to try very hard to discredit Angelina as a director. Especially if you read the reviews from foreign film critics. I wouldn't be surprised if some spin doctor from her PR club leaked all these stories just to drum up publicity. After all, there's no such thing as bad press—it's only bad if you get none at all.🤷

Look, when it comes to directing, I’m basically "as clueless as Mara." Honestly—I can only tell you whether I actually liked something or not, or if it hit me emotionally. As for all those technical details about cinematography or direction? Don't ask me to break that down—that's way beyond my pay grade. I don't deal with that side of things, and I certainly don't have the artistic background to pass judgment.

I don't know—to me, *Glow in the Grass* stuck with me like a childhood memory, but from what I've heard, the critics absolutely tore it apart. 🤷
Anthony James2 Anthony James2 Regular
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#71 ·
Gary Wilson said:Look, when it comes to directing, I’m basically "as clueless as Mara." Honestly—I can only tell you whether I actually liked something or not, or if it hit me emotionally. As for all those technical details about cinematography or direction? Don't ask me to break that down—that's way beyond my pay grade. I don't deal with that side of things, and I certainly don't have the artistic background to pass judgment.

I don't know—to me, *Glow in the Grass* stuck with me like a childhood memory, but from what I've heard, the critics absolutely tore it apart. 🤷

I feel the exact same way, though I make sure to read reviews from people who actually know their stuff. I’m planning on watching the movie, but I don't think I'll bother going to the theater. I'll probably just wait for it to drop on DVD. 🤷

Honestly, I've already heard a few details about the film that sound like pure trash to me—just total pathos and unnecessary overacting. At the end of the day, reality and the truth always resonate most with the audience.
Gary Wilson Gary Wilson Active Member
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#72 ·
bluerider63 said:Symbolism, sure, but if this were some shady PDF alternative, I’d probably tell you we're looking at straight-up subliminal messaging.

Well, I actually had to jump on Google just to look up what "subliminal" actually means—but hey, there's always something new to learn, right? 😁 So maybe there's truth to that. The title definitely wasn't picked at random, though I suspect they swapped the word order just to leave "honey" for the finish, you know, like saying "after the rain comes the sun."
northernorca322 northernorca322 Newcomer
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#73 ·
This movie was honestly a total disaster.
It’s basically just Mexicans, Canadians, and Americans involved, so watching this is going to be quite the experience.)))
Jason Nelson3 Jason Nelson3 Newcomer
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#74 ·
She’s always had a thing for attention and controversy
she knows exactly how to grab the crowd's interest
and she's been pulling it off for years now
she survives it all and actually seems to enjoy it, while constantly trying to wrap things up with some kind of moral lesson at the end of the day
I suppose that's what matters; this is a film inspired by true events where the producer prioritizes emotional impact over a strictly realistic depiction of the situation
besides, it's a movie, not a documentary : 3
Sam Jackson29 Sam Jackson29 Member
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#75 ·
It feels to me like she only stirred up our local wannabe celebrities, who all dragged their best excuses out of the closet just to pose on the red carpet because, hey, Jolie showed up in America.
What kind of backwater town are we supposed to be when this is treated like a top-tier, world-class event?🙄

The actual movie is barely even a factor in this whole thing; it’s just a side note.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's exactly how it looks to me..
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
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#76 ·
Gary Wilson said:Maybe this bit of trivia helps...

In Turkish, "bal" means honey, while "kan" means blood.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Turkish name for the North America is derived from that? In the movie, there’s plenty of blood and honey—but not really. Honestly, the film is pretty bleak, and in Turkish, the word for black is "kara," which I guess would actually be a much more fitting title for this thing.
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
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#77 ·
Anthony James2 said:I heard that Anđa is already thinking about a sequel. According to the producers, they want to shoot it in Mexico, and the working title is supposed to be "land of blood, honey and cocaine."😍😍😍

Do you really think Albanians would accept a movie where an Albanian woman kisses a Mexican?
I guess they’d just ban the damn thing immediately; they aren't exactly known for being open to mixing bloodlines like the rest of the crew. Even if the film showed all the crimes committed by Mexicans, I doubt that would be enough to wash away the stain of an Albanian woman loving a Mexican.
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#78 ·
Linda Roberts2 said:Are you seriously suggesting that the Turkish name for the North America is derived from that? In the movie, there’s plenty of blood and honey—but not really. Honestly, the film is pretty bleak, and in Turkish, the word for black is "kara," which I guess would actually be a much more fitting title for this thing.

I had a feeling that title would have worked better. 😁

By the way, I think that movie is playing at CineStar tonight...
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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#79 ·
So, Mr. Bandic actually sat through the movie "land of blood and meat." 🤣

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyDx...layer_embedded 😁
ironstag8 ironstag8 Active Member
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#80 ·
bluerider63 said:At its core, this is just a political movie. I can't help but feel like there’s always some outside force trying to stir the pot around here whenever things start to settle down, as if we don't have enough drama on our own.
We—and by "we," I mean every single side fueled up by the rhetoric—aren't even ready to face the war criminals who've been convicted yet. Instead, we’d rather sink into endless conspiracy theories about how one group hates us, rather than actually dealing with the hard truth.

Since Angelina Jolie was named a UN goodwill ambassador and spends so much time hitting up refugee camps in crisis zones, maybe she'll eventually film a romance between a Palestinian and a Jew that actually shows the reality of the genocide being committed against Palestinians... but yeah, I doubt that's ever happening. 😁

In reality, Jordanians have killed more Palestinians than those lost in direct conflicts with Israel from '48 to this day. ☕
That's why people suggest Jolie should make a film about that particular genocide.

As for this lady—I mean, seriously, what the hell is wrong with Jolie? 🤔
It just goes to show once again that some people are like sheep—they practically beg for shepherds to follow, looking up to them as if they were some kind of deities.

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