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Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#181 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Are you actually living by this, or are you just quoting a textbook?
Sorry, but you're being a little vague. 🤷
I've read enough books in my life to recognize this... I've also grown tired of material that starts out saying something meaningful only to lose its way and become utterly nonsensical (what was the author actually trying to say?).

Come on, tell us so the rest of us common folks can understand you. 🤣
Sorry, just a little joke at your expense, but I'm sure you'll survive it, right? 🙂
I mean, some people joked about my views too, and well, I'm still standing. 😍

It’s understandable if I seem unclear to some. But honestly, even if I were more direct, I don't think much would change. And when I say this isn't just some quote from a book, but rather my deepest conviction—something I actually live by—it might make even less sense to you. That's just how it is. You can just write me off, decide I'm talking nonsense... because what I'm about to say is pretty strange. But then again, that’s just your opinion, and it's your right to have it. I can only imagine what others might think...

Maria Robinson2 said:Are you actually living by this, or are you just quoting a textbook?
Sorry, but you're being a little vague. 🤷
I've read enough books in my life to recognize this... I've also grown tired of material that starts out saying something meaningful only to lose its way and become utterly nonsensical (what was the author actually trying to say?).

Come on, tell us so the rest of us common folks can understand you. 🤣
Sorry, just a little joke at your expense, but I'm sure you'll survive it, right? 🙂
I mean, some people joked about my views too, and well, I'm still standing. 😍

What I'm about to explain might not click immediately because it stems from a broader body of knowledge, but I'll try to condense it into a little story. It probably won't matter much, though—maybe it'll be interesting, maybe not. This is just a very rough summary, and unfortunately, I'm not writing a novel here, nor would anyone want to read one...

First off, Darwinism is accurate in the sense that external influences alter a being's physical body. Of course, we didn't all descend from a single proto-organism crawling out of the water onto land, nor did the first organisms start in the ocean, but that’s beside the point. What matters is that every original species is created as a finished prototype, specifically adapted to its environment to ensure survival, adaptation, and harmony within its habitat. This process is driven by spiritual creative energies; their task is to create, maintain, and assist in the development of living beings throughout the cosmos. In that same way, humans are a prototype created for the planet's needs, say, five million years ago. Back then, we were at the level of animals, but we represent a prospective being. We aren't just some small creature; rather, we carry a latent genetic stream within our aura that allows us to evolve far beyond our current state. It activates gradually, one step triggering the next...

Over nearly 3.5 million years, humanity has progressed to the point where specific energy elements were integrated to fuel our evolution. We gained consciousness through the acquisition of an astral body—or rather, the first layer of one—which acted as a catalyst for growth. From there, we climbed dimensionally, eventually developing a second astral layer containing vast, untapped knowledge. Reaching that level requires deep investigation, and historically, only the most advanced individuals touched those truths, which in turn elevated the rest of us. After about 800,000 years, civilization reached the highest possible dimension of existence. It was a state of being so advanced we might call it Paradise, because there is simply nothing higher...

In that Paradise, humans resided for almost half a million years. At the very beginning, we were granted a third astral layer, carrying the potential for infinite developmental reach.

About 144,000 years ago, while still within that second dimension (tracing back from the 13th dimension where we first got the first layer, all the way up to the 2nd, or Paradise), we received what is known as the luminous body. Essentially, we made contact with these noble, spherical energies within our auras. Even though these energies possess superintelligence, they can't develop on their own; they need the help of a material race like ours. This allows a generation of these luminous bodies—or cosmic masters—to mature over time. They serve as essential cosmic regulators, using their intelligence to make necessary adjustments to the universe, considering that the cosmos is a near-infinite expanse of energy where matter is just a minor byproduct...

But then, the scenario played out that we’ve known about since the dawn of Neolithic mythology. Across almost every ancient culture, a central myth emerges: the "Fall from Grace." Roughly 127,000 years ago, the human race was cast out—or, to put it in modern terms, "rebooted." All the evolutionary attributes we held in Paradise were stripped away, and we were sent back down to the 13th dimension.

Unfortunately, that’s where we find ourselves today. We’re stuck in the 13th dimension because we were kicked out of the second long ago, meant to return only when we could do it right, without the deviations... (To clarify: between the 13th and 2nd dimensions exist conscious beings; the 14th holds beings without consciousness in the human sense; the 1st dimension consists only of pure energy without matter, and the Zero Dimension is the realm of the Creator, the most noble energy from which all creation sprang).

We are essentially back where we were 1.35 million years ago, only in a much worse spot. Over the last few tens of thousands of years, we’ve developed our greatest obstacle: flawed thinking. This is the root of all the evil we know. It generates a constant stream of negative thoughts and stress, which drive the majority of chronic and malignant illnesses. These negative patterns also damage Earth's aura, threatening the survival of all species and the planet itself. We are sinking deeper into this most difficult dimension for growth.

Today, humans still possess those same attributes—the three-layered astral body and the luminous body. However, direct contact with the luminous body was lost about 30,000 years ago. This means there is a possibility that certain individuals could tap into the immense potential residing within every one of us. They might be able to jumpstart humanity’s ascent back into higher dimensions. And this time, we won't need millions of years; it could happen much faster, since we've already walked this path once and carry the blueprint inside us...

🙂
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#182 ·
My bottom line is this: God gave us everything we actually need. We’ve had it all along—right here, right now—and we always will. We have plenty of everything... we just lost our way and started believing the lie that something is missing.

"Here is the valley, and right here is the hill."
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#183 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:My bottom line is this: God gave us everything we actually need. We’ve had it all along—right here, right now—and we always will. We have plenty of everything... we just lost our way and started believing the lie that something is missing.

"Here is the valley, and right here is the hill."

So why on earth do we keep asking questions, digging around, doubting, and spinning our wheels like we've got a thorn stuck in our backside???
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#184 ·
wearyowl29 said:So why on earth do we keep asking questions, digging around, doubting, and spinning our wheels like we've got a thorn stuck in our backside???

My take is that the sources are right there for us. That's where the knowledge lives, and every bit of knowledge represents a new door opening. You get to them by doing the work—researching, evolving, mastering those possibilities through practice. It doesn't matter if things are going perfectly or hitting rock bottom; the process remains the same.

It's a different story when you look at most people. They're like pack mules, overloaded and too stubborn to move, though truthfully, they often can't even if they wanted to. They need help shedding that weight. And honestly, humanity needs that kind of help on a global scale. If we don't lighten the load, the whole species is just a tired beast barely staying upright...

Even in higher dimensions, there's a sort of restless drive toward growth. Freeing an entire race from suffering isn't quite the same thing as enlightenment, but it does clear the way for us to actually live according to our own will...
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#185 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:My take is that the sources are right there for us. That's where the knowledge lives, and every bit of knowledge represents a new door opening. You get to them by doing the work—researching, evolving, mastering those possibilities through practice. It doesn't matter if things are going perfectly or hitting rock bottom; the process remains the same.

It's a different story when you look at most people. They're like pack mules, overloaded and too stubborn to move, though truthfully, they often can't even if they wanted to. They need help shedding that weight. And honestly, humanity needs that kind of help on a global scale. If we don't lighten the load, the whole species is just a tired beast barely staying upright...

Even in higher dimensions, there's a sort of restless drive toward growth. Freeing an entire race from suffering isn't quite the same thing as enlightenment, but it does clear the way for us to actually live according to our own will...

All sources are up for interpretation, and when people start interpreting, God just laughs.😁
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#186 ·
wearyowl29 said:All sources are up for interpretation, and when people start interpreting, God just laughs.😁

Sure, but when something actually produces real results, it’s hard to argue with it in the long run.
And they aren't just laughing... they're terrified. 😁
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#187 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:Sure, but when something actually produces real results, it’s hard to argue with it in the long run.
And they aren't just laughing... they're terrified. 😁

But how do we actually define "serious results"?🤷

In a vast ocean of identical little droplets, how on earth do you pick out the one that actually matters???
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#188 ·
wearyowl29 said:But how do we actually define "serious results"?🤷

In a vast ocean of identical little droplets, how on earth do you pick out the one that actually matters???

Just look at the broad goals and the final outcomes 🙂
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#189 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:Just look at the broad goals and the final outcomes 🙂

But who actually set those rules? Who decides what holds true value in this world?
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#190 ·
wearyowl29 said:But who actually set those rules? Who decides what holds true value in this world?

I'll take this angle...

Let’s say a person sets these massive, incredible goals—because who else would?—and if those goals sit right on the edge of being purely fantastic, defying almost everything we consider normal or standard, and if there’s actual progress made toward them... even if that person claims some "higher power" is pulling the strings... it doesn't really matter. If the goals are met, they're met. Throughout history, science has produced things that seemed impossible at the time, regardless of what people claimed was behind them.

But here's the thing. We’re talking about goals today that are so absolutely insane they fly in the face of what most people call "common sense." Yet, they still produce results. That suggests most people don't have a clue what they're talking about. They haven't studied it, they don't understand the mechanics, and they certainly can't draw a logical conclusion because they're operating in the dark. So, I could easily believe in that "higher power" standing behind it all—that constant, manifesting force that acts as the direct, unavoidable source of these phenomena. Or, if I manage to actually wrap my head around the principles of how it works... well, then it isn't even about belief anymore. It just becomes knowledge...

At any rate, I'd argue that man isn't the architect of these goals, nor is he the ultimate yardstick for them, even if he doesn't realize it. He isn't directly responsible for the results either; he's more of a middleman. The results are undeniable and inevitable, even if the explanation for them always seems to lag behind.

Can you really trust a person who sets these impossible targets while claiming he isn't the one setting them—especially when the results manifest steadily over years of constant progress?

Depends on which of the seventeen logical frameworks you decide to use... 🙂
Henry Gomez2 Henry Gomez2 Newcomer
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#191 ·
What an incredibly stupid question!!!!
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#192 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:It’s understandable if I seem unclear to some. But honestly, even if I were more direct, I don't think much would change. And when I say this isn't just some quote from a book, but rather my deepest conviction—something I actually live by—it might make even less sense to you. That's just how it is. You can just write me off, decide I'm talking nonsense... because what I'm about to say is pretty strange. But then again, that’s just your opinion, and it's your right to have it. I can only imagine what others might think...

What I'm about to explain might not click immediately because it stems from a broader body of knowledge, but I'll try to condense it into a little story. It probably won't matter much, though—maybe it'll be interesting, maybe not. This is just a very rough summary, and unfortunately, I'm not writing a novel here, nor would anyone want to read one...

First off, Darwinism is accurate in the sense that external influences alter a being's physical body. Of course, we didn't all descend from a single proto-organism crawling out of the water onto land, nor did the first organisms start in the ocean, but that’s beside the point. What matters is that every original species is created as a finished prototype, specifically adapted to its environment to ensure survival, adaptation, and harmony within its habitat. This process is driven by spiritual creative energies; their task is to create, maintain, and assist in the development of living beings throughout the cosmos. In that same way, humans are a prototype created for the planet's needs, say, five million years ago. Back then, we were at the level of animals, but we represent a prospective being. We aren't just some small creature; rather, we carry a latent genetic stream within our aura that allows us to evolve far beyond our current state. It activates gradually, one step triggering the next...

Over nearly 3.5 million years, humanity has progressed to the point where specific energy elements were integrated to fuel our evolution. We gained consciousness through the acquisition of an astral body—or rather, the first layer of one—which acted as a catalyst for growth. From there, we climbed dimensionally, eventually developing a second astral layer containing vast, untapped knowledge. Reaching that level requires deep investigation, and historically, only the most advanced individuals touched those truths, which in turn elevated the rest of us. After about 800,000 years, civilization reached the highest possible dimension of existence. It was a state of being so advanced we might call it Paradise, because there is simply nothing higher...

In that Paradise, humans resided for almost half a million years. At the very beginning, we were granted a third astral layer, carrying the potential for infinite developmental reach.

About 144,000 years ago, while still within that second dimension (tracing back from the 13th dimension where we first got the first layer, all the way up to the 2nd, or Paradise), we received what is known as the luminous body. Essentially, we made contact with these noble, spherical energies within our auras. Even though these energies possess superintelligence, they can't develop on their own; they need the help of a material race like ours. This allows a generation of these luminous bodies—or cosmic masters—to mature over time. They serve as essential cosmic regulators, using their intelligence to make necessary adjustments to the universe, considering that the cosmos is a near-infinite expanse of energy where matter is just a minor byproduct...

But then, the scenario played out that we’ve known about since the dawn of Neolithic mythology. Across almost every ancient culture, a central myth emerges: the "Fall from Grace." Roughly 127,000 years ago, the human race was cast out—or, to put it in modern terms, "rebooted." All the evolutionary attributes we held in Paradise were stripped away, and we were sent back down to the 13th dimension.

Unfortunately, that’s where we find ourselves today. We’re stuck in the 13th dimension because we were kicked out of the second long ago, meant to return only when we could do it right, without the deviations... (To clarify: between the 13th and 2nd dimensions exist conscious beings; the 14th holds beings without consciousness in the human sense; the 1st dimension consists only of pure energy without matter, and the Zero Dimension is the realm of the Creator, the most noble energy from which all creation sprang).

We are essentially back where we were 1.35 million years ago, only in a much worse spot. Over the last few tens of thousands of years, we’ve developed our greatest obstacle: flawed thinking. This is the root of all the evil we know. It generates a constant stream of negative thoughts and stress, which drive the majority of chronic and malignant illnesses. These negative patterns also damage Earth's aura, threatening the survival of all species and the planet itself. We are sinking deeper into this most difficult dimension for growth.

Today, humans still possess those same attributes—the three-layered astral body and the luminous body. However, direct contact with the luminous body was lost about 30,000 years ago. This means there is a possibility that certain individuals could tap into the immense potential residing within every one of us. They might be able to jumpstart humanity’s ascent back into higher dimensions. And this time, we won't need millions of years; it could happen much faster, since we've already walked this path once and carry the blueprint inside us...

🙂

This is just absolutely wild to me. The fact that you guys actually buy into this theory? Seriously? In my opinion, the whole thing is nothing more than a slightly rehashed version of those old biblical Quote : fairy tales.😕
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#193 ·
Henry Gomez2 said:What an incredibly stupid question!!!!

Look, if you actually believe in that stuff, then it isn’t a stupid question. But for anyone who doesn't? Then yeah, it's pretty mindless.
The reality—the cold, hard facts—tell us that nobody is just receiving special gifts dropped down from some transcendent celestial heights. Yet, the Church claims the exact opposite: http://www.katolici.org/nauk.php?action=c_vidi&id=14804
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All I know is that I've seen plenty of people praying themselves hoarse, day in and day out, and still coming up completely empty when it comes to any kind of divine wisdom.
Henry Gomez2 Henry Gomez2 Newcomer
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#194 ·
Benjamin Taylor6, you hit the nail on the head. That’s exactly what happens when you take holy books literally... 🤦
electricdriver33 electricdriver33 Active Member
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#195 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Look, if you actually believe in that stuff, then it isn’t a stupid question. But for anyone who doesn't? Then yeah, it's pretty mindless.
The reality—the cold, hard facts—tell us that nobody is just receiving special gifts dropped down from some transcendent celestial heights. Yet, the Church claims the exact opposite: http://www.katolici.org/nauk.php?action=c_vidi&id=14804
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All I know is that I've seen plenty of people praying themselves hoarse, day in and day out, and still coming up completely empty when it comes to any kind of divine wisdom.

That's why John of the Cross said, "There are those who think they know how to pray, but don't; and there are those who think they don't know how to pray, but they actually do quite well."
And also: "I asked for nothing, and yet I received everything."

http://alfaiomegaduhovniforum.forums...avi-t3083.html 😉
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#196 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:This is just absolutely wild to me. The fact that you guys actually buy into this theory? Seriously? In my opinion, the whole thing is nothing more than a slightly rehashed version of those old biblical Quote : fairy tales.😕

Whether the theory itself—specifically regarding the past—is "true" doesn't really matter. You can't prove it any more than you can prove creationism or any other scientific framework. But it offers an explanation for the order of things... why the world functions the way it does today. That logic is deep, and honestly, it's provable because it stems from the same fundamental source...

It makes sense to me. It’s logical, it’s personal, and it’s how I grow. I don't take things lightly; I’m a skeptic by nature. I tend to doubt even the obvious until I’ve poked at it enough. But for me, this is truth. Not just something I believe, but something I've experienced spiritually...

And look, even if this were all just a massive fantasy or just one of many interpretations (which I don't think it is), the ideas themselves are so profound that they pull the best out of a person. They change your life for the better, layer by layer. At a certain point, the debate stops being relevant. It reminds me of that line by Peter Stanković: "It's better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the science."

This isn't a Quote : fairy tale. Determining that requires years of study and immersion. We aren't all just losing our minds here... there are serious scholars who have spent 15 or 20 years looking into this, and they'd likely tell you the exact same thing I am...

There's an old saying: "It doesn't matter if the cat is white or yellow, as long as it catches mice." If something truly holds value, it has to be working. After 14 years, I'm convinced it is. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit; if anything, it's grown. I feel more stable, calmer, more tolerant... my perspective is clearer. I feel more human, maybe even a little smarter. I'm young, though, so maybe that's just my imagination... 🙂 I'll check back in 14 years to see if I still feel the same. By then, Benjamin Taylor6, you'll probably have posted a dozen times more than I have.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#197 ·
electricdriver33 said:That's why John of the Cross said, "There are those who think they know how to pray, but don't; and there are those who think they don't know how to pray, but they actually do quite well."
And also: "I asked for nothing, and yet I received everything."

http://alfaiomegaduhovniforum.forums...avi-t3083.html 😉

That’s basically Buddhist wisdom right there. If you strip away all desire—if you stop asking for things—then whatever life throws at you will be inherently good.
Unless, of course, a semi-truck runs over your leg.😢😲 In that case, you didn't ask for anything, you didn't seek any favors, but you're still going to be screaming in agony. And in the end, you'll be dealing with a prosthetic limb and walking with a cane.🙂

That's what we call Murfiyev's Law.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#198 ·
Morgan Brown5 said:Whether the theory itself—specifically regarding the past—is "true" doesn't really matter. You can't prove it any more than you can prove creationism or any other scientific framework. But it offers an explanation for the order of things... why the world functions the way it does today. That logic is deep, and honestly, it's provable because it stems from the same fundamental source...

It makes sense to me. It’s logical, it’s personal, and it’s how I grow. I don't take things lightly; I’m a skeptic by nature. I tend to doubt even the obvious until I’ve poked at it enough. But for me, this is truth. Not just something I believe, but something I've experienced spiritually...

And look, even if this were all just a massive fantasy or just one of many interpretations (which I don't think it is), the ideas themselves are so profound that they pull the best out of a person. They change your life for the better, layer by layer. At a certain point, the debate stops being relevant. It reminds me of that line by Peter Stanković: "It's better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the science."

This isn't a Quote : fairy tale. Determining that requires years of study and immersion. We aren't all just losing our minds here... there are serious scholars who have spent 15 or 20 years looking into this, and they'd likely tell you the exact same thing I am...

There's an old saying: "It doesn't matter if the cat is white or yellow, as long as it catches mice." If something truly holds value, it has to be working. After 14 years, I'm convinced it is. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit; if anything, it's grown. I feel more stable, calmer, more tolerant... my perspective is clearer. I feel more human, maybe even a little smarter. I'm young, though, so maybe that's just my imagination... 🙂 I'll check back in 14 years to see if I still feel the same. By then, Benjamin Taylor6, you'll probably have posted a dozen times more than I have.

I’ve spent quite a bit of my life wading through the sheer volume of spiritual movements and organized religions out there—just me, sitting there, trying to make sense of it all. But here’s the thing: when you actually sit down to do the work, the practice is worlds apart from what those theoretical frameworks claim. It just doesn't line up. The reality is that what’s written in the holy books or preached by some supposed sage often fails to hold up under scrutiny. If these teachings only manifest for a tiny, hand-picked group of "chosen" individuals, then they aren't really universal truths at all—they're barely even reliable guides. Honestly, if it only works for a select few by pure luck, then we aren't looking at a doctrine; we're just looking at a series of coincidences.

And at the end of the day, even if we decide this was all just some elaborate flight of fancy—or just one more way to interpret things (though I’m damn sure it isn't)—it doesn't really matter. The thing itself is so profoundly brilliant and layered that it works on you. It slowly stirs up the best parts of a person, fundamentally shifting your life for the better in ways that are both permanent and deeply nuanced. Honestly, once that happens, the whole debate becomes secondary. It makes you realize the truth behind that old saying by John of the Cross: "It is better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the book."

Everyone dies. It’s just one of those things—some people go out via science, some through pure superstition, and others somewhere in that messy, gray area in between. I was thinking about this earlier while driving past a local clinic—it’s all so unpredictable. Take that Ayurveda specialist who used to travel down to San Diego to teach folks about holistic living; he died in a car wreck. Just gone. He was sixty-two years old. And there we were, sitting around listening to him lecture us on how to live to be a hundred... quite the irony, don't you think? 😢🙂

It’s certainly no Quote : fairy tale—and anyone telling you otherwise hasn't done the work. How can you possibly know for sure? You can only establish that once you've truly dedicated yourself to the matter and gotten deeply acquainted with the nuances of it. And let’s be honest, that takes time—real time. I don't want to assume we're all losing our minds over here, though I won't speak for myself—I'll stay out of my own way on that one—but there are serious professionals out there who have spent fifteen or twenty years immersed in this field. At the end of the day, those experts are going to tell you exactly what I am.

They say it doesn't matter if a cat is white or yellow—all that matters is whether it actually catches the mice. I’ve always found a certain truth in that, even if it sounds a bit blunt. If something truly holds value, it has to be moving in the right direction, and after fourteen years of this journey, I can tell you with absolute certainty that I am. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit—in fact, far from it—it’s actually been intensifying over time. But it’s different now; it's more grounded. I feel more stable, healthier, and somehow... calmer? I’ve become more tolerant, my perspective has sharpened, and my ability to sense and process energy has become much more intuitive. I feel like a better, more compassionate human being—maybe even a bit smarter, though, being young as I am, I suppose I should probably chalk that up to wishful thinking for now. 🙂 Well, I’ll probably check back in here in about 14 years once I’ve had enough time to actually process everything—though by then, you’ll likely have racked up several times as many posts as I have, Benjamin Taylor6.

If something actually works, then it’s a win in my book. Even if we're talking about eating sea cucumbers—which, let's be honest, sounds a bit ridiculous—it doesn't matter if we can't scientifically prove why it helps. 😁 What matters is that we're seeing results from some kind of theory, even if that theory turns out to be completely wrong.
Morgan Brown5 Morgan Brown5 Member
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#199 ·
Quote : fairy tale
Benjamin Taylor6 said:I’ve spent quite a bit of my life wading through the sheer volume of spiritual movements and organized religions out there—just me, sitting there, trying to make sense of it all. But here’s the thing: when you actually sit down to do the work, the practice is worlds apart from what those theoretical frameworks claim. It just doesn't line up. The reality is that what’s written in the holy books or preached by some supposed sage often fails to hold up under scrutiny. If these teachings only manifest for a tiny, hand-picked group of "chosen" individuals, then they aren't really universal truths at all—they're barely even reliable guides. Honestly, if it only works for a select few by pure luck, then we aren't looking at a doctrine; we're just looking at a series of coincidences.

And at the end of the day, even if we decide this was all just some elaborate flight of fancy—or just one more way to interpret things (though I’m damn sure it isn't)—it doesn't really matter. The thing itself is so profoundly brilliant and layered that it works on you. It slowly stirs up the best parts of a person, fundamentally shifting your life for the better in ways that are both permanent and deeply nuanced. Honestly, once that happens, the whole debate becomes secondary. It makes you realize the truth behind that old saying by John of the Cross: "It is better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the book."

Everyone dies. It’s just one of those things—some people go out via science, some through pure superstition, and others somewhere in that messy, gray area in between. I was thinking about this earlier while driving past a local clinic—it’s all so unpredictable. Take that Ayurveda specialist who used to travel down to San Diego to teach folks about holistic living; he died in a car wreck. Just gone. He was sixty-two years old. And there we were, sitting around listening to him lecture us on how to live to be a hundred... quite the irony, don't you think? 😢🙂

It’s certainly no Quote : fairy tale—and anyone telling you otherwise hasn't done the work. How can you possibly know for sure? You can only establish that once you've truly dedicated yourself to the matter and gotten deeply acquainted with the nuances of it. And let’s be honest, that takes time—real time. I don't want to assume we're all losing our minds over here, though I won't speak for myself—I'll stay out of my own way on that one—but there are serious professionals out there who have spent fifteen or twenty years immersed in this field. At the end of the day, those experts are going to tell you exactly what I am.

They say it doesn't matter if a cat is white or yellow—all that matters is whether it actually catches the mice. I’ve always found a certain truth in that, even if it sounds a bit blunt. If something truly holds value, it has to be moving in the right direction, and after fourteen years of this journey, I can tell you with absolute certainty that I am. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit—in fact, far from it—it’s actually been intensifying over time. But it’s different now; it's more grounded. I feel more stable, healthier, and somehow... calmer? I’ve become more tolerant, my perspective has sharpened, and my ability to sense and process energy has become much more intuitive. I feel like a better, more compassionate human being—maybe even a bit smarter, though, being young as I am, I suppose I should probably chalk that up to wishful thinking for now. 🙂 Well, I’ll probably check back in here in about 14 years once I’ve had enough time to actually process everything—though by then, you’ll likely have racked up several times as many posts as I have, Benjamin Taylor6.

If something actually works, then it’s a win in my book. Even if we're talking about eating sea cucumbers—which, let's be honest, sounds a bit ridiculous—it doesn't matter if we can't scientifically prove why it helps. 😁 What matters is that we're seeing results from some kind of theory, even if that theory turns out to be completely wrong.

I'm with you on that...

What I follow, practice, and actually live isn't some ancient, dusty teaching. We’re talking about insights that aren't even twenty years old. They offer a very concrete way to describe things people experience firsthand... it's a well-constructed, coherent system of knowledge that provides answers which make perfect sense. Often, they just run counter to whatever conventional wisdom you might be used to. Second, nobody is forcing anyone to dive into this. And third, it’s entirely positive... it isn't aimed at fighting against anyone or anything.

Then again, there are plans on the horizon... certain directions this whole thing might take that could seem pretty bizarre to most people. It might sound overly ambitious or even utopian if you say it out loud, but after everything, I’ve found myself genuinely curious to see it with my own eyes. I want to believe it’ll actually happen. I’ve been let down by a lot of things before, though usually, it was nothing quite this spectacular... mostly just personal stuff, really...

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Everyone dies. Some ways are scientific, some aren't. Some fall somewhere in between... An Ayurveda master who used to come to San Diego to teach people how to live healthy lives just died in a car accident. He was 62. And there he was, teaching us all how to make it to a hundred... 😢🙂
I’m with you on this one, obviously... 🙂

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Benjamin Taylor6 said:I’ve spent quite a bit of my life wading through the sheer volume of spiritual movements and organized religions out there—just me, sitting there, trying to make sense of it all. But here’s the thing: when you actually sit down to do the work, the practice is worlds apart from what those theoretical frameworks claim. It just doesn't line up. The reality is that what’s written in the holy books or preached by some supposed sage often fails to hold up under scrutiny. If these teachings only manifest for a tiny, hand-picked group of "chosen" individuals, then they aren't really universal truths at all—they're barely even reliable guides. Honestly, if it only works for a select few by pure luck, then we aren't looking at a doctrine; we're just looking at a series of coincidences.

And at the end of the day, even if we decide this was all just some elaborate flight of fancy—or just one more way to interpret things (though I’m damn sure it isn't)—it doesn't really matter. The thing itself is so profoundly brilliant and layered that it works on you. It slowly stirs up the best parts of a person, fundamentally shifting your life for the better in ways that are both permanent and deeply nuanced. Honestly, once that happens, the whole debate becomes secondary. It makes you realize the truth behind that old saying by John of the Cross: "It is better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the book."

Everyone dies. It’s just one of those things—some people go out via science, some through pure superstition, and others somewhere in that messy, gray area in between. I was thinking about this earlier while driving past a local clinic—it’s all so unpredictable. Take that Ayurveda specialist who used to travel down to San Diego to teach folks about holistic living; he died in a car wreck. Just gone. He was sixty-two years old. And there we were, sitting around listening to him lecture us on how to live to be a hundred... quite the irony, don't you think? 😢🙂

It’s certainly no Quote : fairy tale—and anyone telling you otherwise hasn't done the work. How can you possibly know for sure? You can only establish that once you've truly dedicated yourself to the matter and gotten deeply acquainted with the nuances of it. And let’s be honest, that takes time—real time. I don't want to assume we're all losing our minds over here, though I won't speak for myself—I'll stay out of my own way on that one—but there are serious professionals out there who have spent fifteen or twenty years immersed in this field. At the end of the day, those experts are going to tell you exactly what I am.

They say it doesn't matter if a cat is white or yellow—all that matters is whether it actually catches the mice. I’ve always found a certain truth in that, even if it sounds a bit blunt. If something truly holds value, it has to be moving in the right direction, and after fourteen years of this journey, I can tell you with absolute certainty that I am. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit—in fact, far from it—it’s actually been intensifying over time. But it’s different now; it's more grounded. I feel more stable, healthier, and somehow... calmer? I’ve become more tolerant, my perspective has sharpened, and my ability to sense and process energy has become much more intuitive. I feel like a better, more compassionate human being—maybe even a bit smarter, though, being young as I am, I suppose I should probably chalk that up to wishful thinking for now. 🙂 Well, I’ll probably check back in here in about 14 years once I’ve had enough time to actually process everything—though by then, you’ll likely have racked up several times as many posts as I have, Benjamin Taylor6.

If something actually works, then it’s a win in my book. Even if we're talking about eating sea cucumbers—which, let's be honest, sounds a bit ridiculous—it doesn't matter if we can't scientifically prove why it helps. 😁 What matters is that we're seeing results from some kind of theory, even if that theory turns out to be completely wrong.

Honestly, this whole thing works incredibly well. You have people traveling in from all over the country just to make it to this seminar once every three weeks, and they’ve been doing it for years. It’s impressive... plus, there’s so much potential here that we haven't even tapped into yet. This is really just the beginning...
It all started twenty years ago with just a handful of people meeting in an apartment. Since then, it’s grown into this massive international seminar circuit hitting about ten different cities throughout the year. Even with all that growth, the core ideas haven't budged. It’s becoming more mainstream, sure, but it's also become much more serious than those early days. The impact on people is night and day compared to when we started... and if it works this well for me—not to mention the hundreds of others involved—I'm certain it'll resonate with anyone, regardless of their philosophical leanings. A lot of people show up with their own set of beliefs, but they come for the intense spiritual energy sessions practiced at every session. Honestly, the theory isn't even the main draw. Anyone can walk in from any spiritual background and find value here. And just to be clear, there's nothing religious about it. The guy leading this is a scientist and an academic, but he shares insights gained through his own research and spiritual journey. It doesn't really overlap with materialist science, because we aren't talking about matter... we're talking about energy.
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Benjamin Taylor6 said:That’s basically Buddhist wisdom right there. If you strip away all desire—if you stop asking for things—then whatever life throws at you will be inherently good.
Unless, of course, a semi-truck runs over your leg.😢😲 In that case, you didn't ask for anything, you didn't seek any favors, but you're still going to be screaming in agony. And in the end, you'll be dealing with a prosthetic limb and walking with a cane.🙂

That's what we call Murfiyev's Law.

I'd probably just call it the Kennedy Law. . 😂.

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