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Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

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Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#461 ·
bluebison25 said:@orah: Let's not get bogged down in endless arguments that just go in circles. Most people can probably agree with my point without us needing to start a massive brawl 🙂.

@Nancy Wilson2: Yeah, I'm basically just killing time right now—either handling private business or working out in the field. Unfortunately, this economic crisis is hitting every single sector. Based on my gut feeling, this year is going to be about 20% worse, which means we'll see roughly two months' worth of lost customers in the hospitality industry. As for the topic at hand: I don't know exactly what you experienced. I don't want to sound arrogant, but for people who have had near-death experiences (like my grandmother did), describing butterflies, pure joy, or flying over a meadow of flowers (that’s exactly how she put it), scientists gave us an answer a long time ago. It's just the brain hallucinating due to lack of oxygen, creating those vivid images. To me, it looks like the brain's desperate struggle to stay online as long as possible before it completely shuts down and wipes all our memories and knowledge
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Here is how I see it: scientists already understand which part of the brain handles which function. We know the mind is essentially just a series of chemical reactions. If you damage one specific area of the brain, you lose certain mental faculties. It is simply not true that people with brain damage possess an intact "soul" while just being unable to communicate with us. Everything regarding a person's mind and personality can be stripped away if the brain is compromised: you might lose the ability to recognize faces, forget animal names while remembering everything else, or someone's entire personality could shift until they become totally antisocial, and so on.

Damage one part of the brain, lose one skill; damage another, lose another.

If you damage—or rather, shut down—the entire brain, what happens? Go ahead, answer that yourself; I’ve already found my own answer.

What religion tells us is that if the whole brain is destroyed, then upon death, our mind somehow magically ascends to heaven where we speak American and can finally recognize our grandma again.

On this final point, you are conflating the mind with consciousness. The mind dies along with the body. Do you truly believe that you *are* your mind? Fine—calculate "in your head" what 88 minus 35 is. What did you utilize? Your mind, of course. If you are your mind, how did you utilize it? What was it that actually performed the calculation? It is the same with the physical body: pick up a pen, look at it, and set it back down. What did you use? Your hand, yes, but you utilized your mind to direct it. Who is the user? The "I"—that is consciousness. Consciousness directs the mind, which in turn directs the body. That is what you actually ARE. At that level, you are absolutely identical to everyone else.

As for my own experience, I stepped directly into that silent consciousness that exists "behind" the mind. This consciousness is what some call the soul, infinite awareness, pure consciousness, or even God. In certain traditions, it is referred to as the state of Aiden. Aiden represents a state devoid of space, time, or thought; it translates to nothingness. There is a reason for that nomenclature. Because what lies "behind" the mind is, quite literally, infinite. Unfortunately, you have never experienced this, so you likely won't grasp the essence of what I am saying.

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/lsd04.html "Are NDEs Hallucinations?" discusses this very subject. Tell me, if these are ALL hallucinations, wouldn't one need a functioning brain to have such elaborate hallucinations in the first place? What, then, can be said about those whose brains were NOT functioning? As far as I am aware, they didn't see meadows or whatever else... though these are indeed projections of the mind/consciousness, and these projections depend heavily on one's psychological state. After all, why do some see meadows, greenery, and light, while others see hell, fire, and torment? Both are illusions. Yet, the state of conscious infinity that resides behind those illusions is profoundly real. It is as simple as that—no flights of fancy required; the reality is quite straightforward.
Paul Anderson2 Paul Anderson2 Active Member
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#462 ·
The whole thing with near-death experiences feels pretty similar to those sensations you get when there’s just a total absence of all feeling.

And I guess the brain doesn't even need to be active in that moment. It’s easy enough to remember something that never actually happened.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#463 ·
You have to be joking.
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#464 ·
The brain can only go without oxygen for about three minutes. After that window closes, you aren't "restarting" anything—it’s game over. You guys are getting your facts seriously twisted; try picking up a textbook on sleep cycles and hallucinations once in a while. I’d suggest it, but I already have it all figured out, so I don't need 🙂
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Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#465 ·
bluebison25 said:The brain can only go without oxygen for about three minutes. After that window closes, you aren't "restarting" anything—it’s game over. You guys are getting your facts seriously twisted; try picking up a textbook on sleep cycles and hallucinations once in a while. I’d suggest it, but I already have it all figured out, so I don't need 🙂
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😂 Excuse me?

Let me give you a perfect example. A woman I know had to undergo brain surgery—I don't recall the exact specifics—and to perform the procedure, they had to essentially induce a state where her brain activity, along with other vitals, was halted. She was under strict professional medical supervision, showing absolutely no brain activity at all, and when she regained consciousness, what do you think she recounted? She described, with total precision, exactly where everyone was standing, what they were doing, and what they were saying—as if she were observing and listening to everything from outside her own body. And now you’d suggest that’s just some hallucination? The doctors performing that operation simply didn't have any other way to explain it than to admit she was truly experiencing an out-of-body experience while observing the room.

Do you need more cases like this? There are thousands. By the way, her brain was essentially inactive for roughly half an hour. I have no idea what kind of literature you've been consuming, but the claim "I don't need to read anything because I understand it all already" is quite frankly... well, forgive my bluntness, but it is profoundly foolish.
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#466 ·
Look, everything I learned in my CPR training was crystal clear: you've got maybe five minutes before things go south, you start resuscitation immediately, and after three minutes without oxygen, the brain starts taking permanent damage. My own brother suffered serious brain impairment because of a medical oversight at birth where the umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck for just twenty seconds. So now you're sitting here spinning these fairy tales about a woman whose brain was offline for thirty minutes??? Are you even sure you read that right? Go back and double-check your facts, or better yet, drop a link. Don't just link to this specific thread—find me an actual source that proves a brain can be totally shut down for more than five minutes and still function perfectly, and then I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#467 ·
Correction: Her brain function was essentially at rock bottom during the surgery. And even then—one would assume—you'd need a brain in slightly better shape than that to experience hallucinations, wouldn't you? Of course you would. That is precisely why the surgeons were so utterly baffled by how she could describe, visualize, and hear everything with such startlingly vivid detail.
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#468 ·
Look, let’s be real for a second. Oxygen is the absolute key to staying functional. You can pump someone full of half a liter of blood, but once they lose a gallon and hit that brink, they’re gone—that’s basic biology. Blood exists to ferry oxygen to every corner of the body. Of course scientists haven't cracked the whole code yet, and obviously, those doctors don't have all the answers either. That was exactly the case with my grandmother. Who knows how many people have had similar experiences with near-death states or passing out? Maybe we won't solve it tomorrow, but we definitely will one day. We already know a ton about the brain and which parts handle what. Even with meditation, studies show it actually thickens certain brain regions and boosts performance. I even saw a great documentary on it on PBS.
But here’s what science hasn't turned its back on yet, just like you were saying earlier: the possibility that our thoughts and consciousness might actually transition into another dimension or some part of the cosmos. People are studying this right now, and the big question is what kind of answers we'll get from it. Personally, I’m pretty skeptical, but there it is. 🙂
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#469 ·
I am being entirely serious here. I am one hundred percent certain that such an instance occurred—the only explanation those doctors could have possibly offered was that her consciousness was functioning independently of her brain. 🤷 I am not joking.

There are countless other cases, some similar and others quite different, that all point toward the idea that consciousness is actually something far greater than just a mere byproduct of brain function.

Of course, science doesn't have all the answers yet; I, too, am hoping they finally uncover the truth about this matter—it is certainly high time.

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bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#470 ·
Anything is possible. What’s actually realistic to expect is that a massive amount of data exists, but it's kept under lock and key. We only ever see the crumbs they decide to throw our way. How much can we truly know about the research we're actually interested in? In my opinion, barely anything. But honestly, it’s just easier for most people to blame their ignorance on religion or God rather than admit they simply refuse to learn how things actually work. So now they circle back to the topic, wondering why God isn't just handing them all the answers on a silver platter... LOL. Just think about it—how does knowledge even happen? People specialize in specific fields like science, manufacturing, or trade, among countless others.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#471 ·
bluebison25 said:Anything is possible. What’s actually realistic to expect is that a massive amount of data exists, but it's kept under lock and key. We only ever see the crumbs they decide to throw our way. How much can we truly know about the research we're actually interested in? In my opinion, barely anything. But honestly, it’s just easier for most people to blame their ignorance on religion or God rather than admit they simply refuse to learn how things actually work. So now they circle back to the topic, wondering why God isn't just handing them all the answers on a silver platter... LOL. Just think about it—how does knowledge even happen? People specialize in specific fields like science, manufacturing, or trade, among countless others.

This brings to mind a study conducted by a doctor investigating whether consciousness can function independently of the brain or the physical body. For instance, imagine you're lying in bed, and there's a shelf mounted high above you—so high that you could only reach it if you could somehow float up to it. On that shelf, certain numbers are written that only the doctor knows. A few subjects claimed they could project their consciousness outside their bodies to identify those exact numbers... and one woman actually tried it and succeeded 😲 though it is strange that no results from this research are published anywhere 🙂 what you wrote is entirely plausible—that certain truths are being intentionally withheld.

...Let them believe what they want. It gives them a sense of comfort; "ignorance is bliss." 😁
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#472 ·
So you're curious about astral projection. I've been there myself, experiencing those vivid dreams firsthand. If you sharpen your focus enough, you can actually take the wheel and control them. But you have to be incredibly careful; one wrong move and the whole experience goes off the rails. One time, I was essentially communicating with extraterrestrials—let's call them that—and another time, I was soaring over my own city, seeing every single detail, from the streets to the cars passing by. I know exactly what this is and why it happens, even if most people are still struggling to wrap their heads around it. Personally, nothing beats falling asleep without any dream interference; that's when I feel truly rested 🙂. Check out the link and read the comments to see how many others have had similar experiences 🙂
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#473 ·
I certainly understand what you're getting at 🙂 even if I haven't experienced a conscious projection myself—though I have had those "unconscious" versions, where you maintain awareness during a dream, essentially lucid dreaming.

What really trips me up regarding astral projection is the concept of the mind remaining awake while the body falls asleep—that whole sleep paralysis phenomenon. I've had some pretty unsettling encounters with it since I was young; it felt like living through a horror movie every single night. 🤣
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#474 ·
It’s haunting. Here is how my dream goes down: I am 100% aware that I’m dreaming, and I can feel these other people around me. Let’s just call them "aliens" 😁. I try to get up, but I can't move. I try to move my hands, my legs—everything—but I’m completely paralyzed. It feels like they are physically holding me down while I just stare at them. They look like nothing more than shadows. Eventually, I get so terrified that everything just snaps; the shadows vanish, and I bolt wide awake. It is genuinely chilling, though if you actually understand what's happening, it isn't a huge deal. You can technically do whatever you want in that state, like having sex with anyone you can imagine. Personally, though, I much prefer it when I don't remember my dreams at all 😁
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#475 ·
bluebison25 said:It’s haunting. Here is how my dream goes down: I am 100% aware that I’m dreaming, and I can feel these other people around me. Let’s just call them "aliens" 😁. I try to get up, but I can't move. I try to move my hands, my legs—everything—but I’m completely paralyzed. It feels like they are physically holding me down while I just stare at them. They look like nothing more than shadows. Eventually, I get so terrified that everything just snaps; the shadows vanish, and I bolt wide awake. It is genuinely chilling, though if you actually understand what's happening, it isn't a huge deal. You can technically do whatever you want in that state, like having sex with anyone you can imagine. Personally, though, I much prefer it when I don't remember my dreams at all 😁

Meh, you find *that* creepy?

I’ve had moments where I woke up abruptly, gripped by a level of panic and dread that is honestly impossible to put into words. I scrambled out of bed only to see my entire room disintegrating into dust while nothing but pure darkness swirled around me. I was spinning in circles, panicking, having no clue what the hell was happening—everything was shaking. Then, this incredibly tall, spindly entity appeared right in front of me; we just locked eyes. The last thing I remember is ending up paralyzed on the floor—that’s actually how my parents found me. The same thing happened to me several times in a row... now *that* is creepy as hell. And go ahead, explain it to me: these things supposedly happen when a person is paralyzed... but I wasn't paralyzed at that moment!? WTF!
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#476 ·
I’m dealing with some technical glitches on Reddit. As for the dream stuff, I still consider dreaming my ultimate goal. Honestly, I could probably be terrified by them quite often, but I'm not about to waste my energy digging into the "how" and "why" behind every nightmare. I much prefer just waking up and moving on. There’s definitely an explanation out there somewhere; you just have to look 🙂
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#477 ·
I’m dealing with this too—that constant message popping up saying, "The Reddit is temporarily unavailable due to technical issues. We appreciate your patience." Honestly, the whole site is basically down.

After spending a few years digging into this, I’ve narrowed it down to just two possible explanations:
1. A case of night terrors being misdiagnosed as sleep paralysis—basically, reaching that tenth level of focus. (Is that even scientifically plausible?)
2. A fourth-dimensional reptilian popped in for a quick visit just to check in on me. 🤣
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#478 ·
Exactly. It proves they’re actually taking action on this.

Look, who can really say? I don’t claim to be an expert since I’ve never studied dream theory, nor do I know anyone who has. You can dive into it yourself if you're obsessed, but studying this should be based on hard science, not just some random people's theories or guesses. My take? Death is just like one of those nights you spend tossing and turning, only to wake up with zero memory of ever falling asleep—it's absolute nothingness. Pure void. We've all been there; everyone has woken up at least once feeling like they slept through a whole movie but can't recall a single frame. I'm pretty sure we dream every single time we sleep; we just rarely have the sense to remember it. Personally, I used to have vivid dreams all the time when I was a kid, but that's mostly faded now.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#479 ·
bluebison25 said:Exactly. It proves they’re actually taking action on this.

Look, who can really say? I don’t claim to be an expert since I’ve never studied dream theory, nor do I know anyone who has. You can dive into it yourself if you're obsessed, but studying this should be based on hard science, not just some random people's theories or guesses. My take? Death is just like one of those nights you spend tossing and turning, only to wake up with zero memory of ever falling asleep—it's absolute nothingness. Pure void. We've all been there; everyone has woken up at least once feeling like they slept through a whole movie but can't recall a single frame. I'm pretty sure we dream every single time we sleep; we just rarely have the sense to remember it. Personally, I used to have vivid dreams all the time when I was a kid, but that's mostly faded now.

Exactly. Though, if you ask me, it feels like this entire Reddit is infected with some sort of virus.

Look, who can truly claim to know? I certainly don't—I've never formally studied dreams, nor do I know anyone who has. You can look into it yourself if you're curious, but any study of the subject ought to be grounded in actual scientific research rather than just people's opinions or assumptions. My take is that death is much like those nights you spend sleeping and simply never remember the dream—absolute nothingness, an absolute lack of consciousness. It happens to everyone; at least once, everyone wakes up without a single memory of what they were dreaming. (I think I read somewhere that we always dream while we sleep, we just rarely retain the memory.) For instance, I recall my childhood dreams far more vividly than anything lately.

But then again, who can say for certain? Have you died—actually been dead for a few hours and returned—to verify the experience for yourself? I highly doubt it. What you've laid out is merely your own perspective, constructed from reading and reflection—which is perfectly fine, and I have built my own view as well—but my conclusion differs from yours. Opinions are not facts. The difference is that, unlike you, I have certain experiences that suggest there is significantly more to this than meets the eye.
Personally, I honestly can't remember the last time I woke up from a dream; it's just a void, wake up, go to sleep, void... and so on, in a loop.
Whatever lies beyond death, I hope we all get a decent rest from all of this.
bluebison25 bluebison25 Active Member
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#480 ·
I’m dealing with the exact same virus issue. I’m using Firefox.

Dead for a few hours? Look, I haven't been there myself, but I know people who were hovering right on the edge for two or three minutes. That’s just my take on it. I am 100% certain that death is nothing more than eternal rest, which is why you have to fight like hell to stay alive as long as possible. It’s a proven fact that keeping the mind sharp through constant learning—even when you're in your 80s, 90s, or 100s—boosts brain activity. It basically extends your "lifespan" and helps ward off Alzheimer's.🙂

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