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Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
158 messages
joined Feb 2012
#601 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:But look, that’s all just faith—it isn't actual knowledge. If we were talking about real knowledge, He would have founded some kind of academy for Astral Projection, where people could actually experience what it feels like to be out-of-body on their own terms. 😁

You know as well as I do that faith itself encompasses a massive amount of knowledge—it's all interconnected, I suppose.
Paul Collins7 Paul Collins7 Newcomer
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#602 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:You know as well as I do that faith itself encompasses a massive amount of knowledge—it's all interconnected, I suppose.

Perhaps death isn't actually as terrifying as we make it out to be. It feels heavy because we’ve simply forgotten where we were before this life began. To Him, our passing is nothing compared to the vastness of eternity. Personally, I tend to view this whole existence as a sort of test—a way to see how we conduct ourselves. Will we surrender to our most base impulses? How far will we go? It’s always much easier to give in to sin and take the fast route, even if it's the wrong one, rather than choosing the harder, more righteous path. I am certain that God exists; I used to be a staunch agnostic, but certain things happened in my own life that completely reshaped my entire worldview.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
158 messages
joined Feb 2012
#603 ·
Paul Collins7 said:Perhaps death isn't actually as terrifying as we make it out to be. It feels heavy because we’ve simply forgotten where we were before this life began. To Him, our passing is nothing compared to the vastness of eternity. Personally, I tend to view this whole existence as a sort of test—a way to see how we conduct ourselves. Will we surrender to our most base impulses? How far will we go? It’s always much easier to give in to sin and take the fast route, even if it's the wrong one, rather than choosing the harder, more righteous path. I am certain that God exists; I used to be a staunch agnostic, but certain things happened in my own life that completely reshaped my entire worldview.

Death isn't so scary if an old man just drifts off into a final sleep and never wakes up again.
I suppose that’s the kind of death anyone would hope for once they realize it's inevitable—it's probably the best way to go.
Anything else—the typical ways people suffer through death—well, that's a different matter entirely.

Of course sinning is easier; it’s practically human nature.
But correcting those mistakes is also part of being human—it's certainly more difficult, I guess, but possible with enough willpower.

So, you say you were a firm agnostic?
Now you see that was pointless?
I was somewhat similar—once, maybe—but looking back now, it seems almost funny.
Today, I've made my choice, and my heart tells me I haven't made a mistake.
I don't know about everyone else, but I find myself constantly saying: listen to your heart, ignore the people trying to drown you out with their formulas... just let your heart lead.🙂
Paul Collins7 Paul Collins7 Newcomer
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#604 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Death isn't so scary if an old man just drifts off into a final sleep and never wakes up again.
I suppose that’s the kind of death anyone would hope for once they realize it's inevitable—it's probably the best way to go.
Anything else—the typical ways people suffer through death—well, that's a different matter entirely.

Of course sinning is easier; it’s practically human nature.
But correcting those mistakes is also part of being human—it's certainly more difficult, I guess, but possible with enough willpower.

So, you say you were a firm agnostic?
Now you see that was pointless?
I was somewhat similar—once, maybe—but looking back now, it seems almost funny.
Today, I've made my choice, and my heart tells me I haven't made a mistake.
I don't know about everyone else, but I find myself constantly saying: listen to your heart, ignore the people trying to drown you out with their formulas... just let your heart lead.🙂

I am curious, though—what exactly caused that shift in you? You speak well, but one cannot rely solely on the heart, as it isn't always right. That is why God gave us a brain as well; we should use both to find that golden mean, that perfect balance between the two.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#605 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:You know as well as I do that faith itself encompasses a massive amount of knowledge—it's all interconnected, I suppose.

Now, if you’re talking about beliefs in terms of "secret doctrines," we could say there's everything under the sun and absolutely nothing at all.
I mean, we’re told we just have to believe. But is that actually how it works? It would be much simpler if every religion said the exact same thing. Instead, they all claim to have the truth, yet they contradict one another constantly—it leaves a person spinning, honestly, not knowing which thread to pull.😕
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#606 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Death isn't so scary if an old man just drifts off into a final sleep and never wakes up again.
I suppose that’s the kind of death anyone would hope for once they realize it's inevitable—it's probably the best way to go.
Anything else—the typical ways people suffer through death—well, that's a different matter entirely.

Of course sinning is easier; it’s practically human nature.
But correcting those mistakes is also part of being human—it's certainly more difficult, I guess, but possible with enough willpower.

So, you say you were a firm agnostic?
Now you see that was pointless?
I was somewhat similar—once, maybe—but looking back now, it seems almost funny.
Today, I've made my choice, and my heart tells me I haven't made a mistake.
I don't know about everyone else, but I find myself constantly saying: listen to your heart, ignore the people trying to drown you out with their formulas... just let your heart lead.🙂

You've become quite the Taoist😁


20. The Sage and the World
Intellect limits life. What difference does "yes" or "no" make? What difference does good or evil make?
Should one follow the crowd or act like everyone else?
Oh, awakening is still a long way off.
The majority is filled with superficial joys,
as if they were feasting at banquets,
as if they were lounging on a spring patio,
but I am quiet, anchored in the source of feeling,
like a newborn baby who doesn't even
know how to laugh yet,
unattached, like a man without a home.
The majority has more than enough,
yet I, it seems, have nothing,
my spirit is mindless and empty.
The majority knows,
while I am ignorant and confused.
The majority is sharp and clever,
while I am dull,
patient as the ocean,
carried along, seemingly without purpose.
The majority has a sense of purpose,
while I am impractical and unrefined.

I am different from the majority,
most notably in that I seek support from Mother.

19. Virtue and Self
Discard knowledge, abandon cleverness! The well-being of the community will flourish.
Discard customs and abandon laws!
Family love will return.
Discard cunning, abandon desire!
Thieves and bandits will vanish.

Those three touch the external and are not enough,
so they must assume a higher principle.
Discover your unadorned self,
embrace your primal source,
restrain your egoism,
and be simple.


So someone seeks support from Mother. And someone from Father. And someone from the Son.
briskotter192 briskotter192 Member
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#607 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:But look, that’s all just faith—it isn't actual knowledge. If we were talking about real knowledge, He would have founded some kind of academy for Astral Projection, where people could actually experience what it feels like to be out-of-body on their own terms. 😁


It isn't just blind faith; Jesus actually KNEW exactly what He was talking about.

We’ll all see the truth of it soon enough.

Best regards,
Paul Collins7 Paul Collins7 Newcomer
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#608 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:You've become quite the Taoist😁


20. The Sage and the World
Intellect limits life. What difference does "yes" or "no" make? What difference does good or evil make?
Should one follow the crowd or act like everyone else?
Oh, awakening is still a long way off.
The majority is filled with superficial joys,
as if they were feasting at banquets,
as if they were lounging on a spring patio,
but I am quiet, anchored in the source of feeling,
like a newborn baby who doesn't even
know how to laugh yet,
unattached, like a man without a home.
The majority has more than enough,
yet I, it seems, have nothing,
my spirit is mindless and empty.
The majority knows,
while I am ignorant and confused.
The majority is sharp and clever,
while I am dull,
patient as the ocean,
carried along, seemingly without purpose.
The majority has a sense of purpose,
while I am impractical and unrefined.

I am different from the majority,
most notably in that I seek support from Mother.

19. Virtue and Self
Discard knowledge, abandon cleverness! The well-being of the community will flourish.
Discard customs and abandon laws!
Family love will return.
Discard cunning, abandon desire!
Thieves and bandits will vanish.

Those three touch the external and are not enough,
so they must assume a higher principle.
Discover your unadorned self,
embrace your primal source,
restrain your egoism,
and be simple.


So someone seeks support from Mother. And someone from Father. And someone from the Son.

Everything she writes feels like my brain just spinning its wheels—it doesn't really land anywhere. I haven't read this before, nor am I just copying it; perhaps it isn't profound wisdom, either. When I encounter something this deep, I feel fascinated for a fleeting second, but then it slips through my fingers. We all have our own paths to walk, but I suppose the destination is the same for everyone eventually!
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#609 ·
Paul Collins7 said:I am curious, though—what exactly caused that shift in you? You speak well, but one cannot rely solely on the heart, as it isn't always right. That is why God gave us a brain as well; we should use both to find that golden mean, that perfect balance between the two.

Of course you can't rely solely on your heart—we aren't quite that reckless, I suppose.

The formula: heart + logic + knowledge = 🙂

Something quite mundane happened to me once—it wasn't even a day of grief or losing someone close... I was just walking through the park with my dog, watching people pass by, just enjoying the peace of a nice day, I guess.
And suddenly, something stirred deep within me, and I felt compelled to simply tell God, "God, if You really exist, I just want to thank You for this beautiful day."
When I got home, the feeling hadn't faded—not really—so I started looking into things. That was the moment I picked up the Bible, and since then, it's been a constant part of my life; years have passed, but it’s still there.

I know, people likely find this funny—it's not enough of an explanation for them. They would much rather hear that I fell in love with God after a funeral, or that I witnessed some terrifying miracle and finally came to my senses—they want those dramatic examples.

To be honest, I have faced fear and hardship in various forms; some people have nearly broken me in their pursuit of their own goals—I'll be blunt about it, as I always try to be.

And yet, that particular day—the one I'll remember as long as I live—was completely devoid of trouble or chaos. It was just an ordinary day, which is precisely why it remains so incredibly special to me.🙂

What about you?
What drew you in?
(I suspect there will probably just be silence from your end—perhaps a lack of courage?)
Paul Collins7 Paul Collins7 Newcomer
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#610 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Of course you can't rely solely on your heart—we aren't quite that reckless, I suppose.

The formula: heart + logic + knowledge = 🙂

Something quite mundane happened to me once—it wasn't even a day of grief or losing someone close... I was just walking through the park with my dog, watching people pass by, just enjoying the peace of a nice day, I guess.
And suddenly, something stirred deep within me, and I felt compelled to simply tell God, "God, if You really exist, I just want to thank You for this beautiful day."
When I got home, the feeling hadn't faded—not really—so I started looking into things. That was the moment I picked up the Bible, and since then, it's been a constant part of my life; years have passed, but it’s still there.

I know, people likely find this funny—it's not enough of an explanation for them. They would much rather hear that I fell in love with God after a funeral, or that I witnessed some terrifying miracle and finally came to my senses—they want those dramatic examples.

To be honest, I have faced fear and hardship in various forms; some people have nearly broken me in their pursuit of their own goals—I'll be blunt about it, as I always try to be.

And yet, that particular day—the one I'll remember as long as I live—was completely devoid of trouble or chaos. It was just an ordinary day, which is precisely why it remains so incredibly special to me.🙂

What about you?
What drew you in?
(I suspect there will probably just be silence from your end—perhaps a lack of courage?)

There's always at least a little bit of courage to be found! I completely understand you; you've realized that God is something we should perhaps respect a bit more, alongside Life itself! I personally had some close encounters with black magic—not something I practiced myself, but something my best friend dealt with that threatened the well-being of my family and me. To be honest, I knew something was happening, but I assumed it was normal until everything came to light. I don't like talking about it because people often fail to grasp what is being said, and I get it, because I used to speak that way too. But now, I am so much more grateful to God because going through that experience opened my eyes and helped me find the meaning in everything.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#611 ·
Paul Collins7 said:There's always at least a little bit of courage to be found! I completely understand you; you've realized that God is something we should perhaps respect a bit more, alongside Life itself! I personally had some close encounters with black magic—not something I practiced myself, but something my best friend dealt with that threatened the well-being of my family and me. To be honest, I knew something was happening, but I assumed it was normal until everything came to light. I don't like talking about it because people often fail to grasp what is being said, and I get it, because I used to speak that way too. But now, I am so much more grateful to God because going through that experience opened my eyes and helped me find the meaning in everything.

That sounds terrible—what you went through, I imagine wasn't easy at all.
You'd be surprised if I told you how some of my own family members back home used to visit occultists to try and "fix" their problems—they even asked me if I wanted to join them.
I guess I was tempted by them for a moment—they went, they came back, and they were never happy again.
I despise that filth—it's truly Satanic work. I told them not to go because it won't end well, but I suppose you can't explain things to everyone, even if they're born a hundred times over.

Satan loves those things—amongst all his other schemes, he's just waiting for someone to join that specific spiritual realm. Once you make contact, it becomes a very difficult problem to solve.

I've spoken with people who used to practice magic before.
They explained what actually happens and how dangerous it is—apparently, people aren't even aware of how far down the rabbit hole they can go.

So, I am genuinely glad for you—if this was the reason you finally saw the light...
Everyone has their own reason and their own day to finally see clearly.
Paul Collins7 Paul Collins7 Newcomer
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#612 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:That sounds terrible—what you went through, I imagine wasn't easy at all.
You'd be surprised if I told you how some of my own family members back home used to visit occultists to try and "fix" their problems—they even asked me if I wanted to join them.
I guess I was tempted by them for a moment—they went, they came back, and they were never happy again.
I despise that filth—it's truly Satanic work. I told them not to go because it won't end well, but I suppose you can't explain things to everyone, even if they're born a hundred times over.

Satan loves those things—amongst all his other schemes, he's just waiting for someone to join that specific spiritual realm. Once you make contact, it becomes a very difficult problem to solve.

I've spoken with people who used to practice magic before.
They explained what actually happens and how dangerous it is—apparently, people aren't even aware of how far down the rabbit hole they can go.

So, I am genuinely glad for you—if this was the reason you finally saw the light...
Everyone has their own reason and their own day to finally see clearly.

To be honest, I was quite shaken by realizing how much evil exists today and how Satan works through things like music, technology, and most of what surrounds us. We blindly assume it's all innocent and that it can't hurt us, but in reality, we are drifting further away from God. What matters most is faith—being truly determined to serve God and belong to Him as much as you desire. At the end of the day, He created both everything and the darkness, and He will be the one to decide our ultimate fate. I don't understand how anyone can take life into their own hands like that, acting however they please. But I will never quite grasp people who intentionally do evil to others. Whether people are born that way or if it's somehow predestined, I simply don't know. What are your thoughts on that?
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
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#613 ·
Paul Collins7 said:To be honest, I was quite shaken by realizing how much evil exists today and how Satan works through things like music, technology, and most of what surrounds us. We blindly assume it's all innocent and that it can't hurt us, but in reality, we are drifting further away from God. What matters most is faith—being truly determined to serve God and belong to Him as much as you desire. At the end of the day, He created both everything and the darkness, and He will be the one to decide our ultimate fate. I don't understand how anyone can take life into their own hands like that, acting however they please. But I will never quite grasp people who intentionally do evil to others. Whether people are born that way or if it's somehow predestined, I simply don't know. What are your thoughts on that?

I had my own little wake-up call once I realized what was actually going on—the sheer scale of it all... the amount of things involved was honestly shocking.
Then I found myself wondering—well, where have you been living that you didn't notice sooner?
And, well, I didn't notice—I was just a kid, and kids are easy to mislead, I guess.

Now I realize none of it is particularly surprising, since it's easy enough to fool seniors who think they're wise just because of their age and experience.
But then again, an old man is just a man, and he can wear blinders his whole life.
On the flip side, I know young people who don't have any blinders at all and are incredibly aware of everything.

So, there's that idea of wisdom being something you supposedly gain with age.🙄

As for the people who want to cause harm?
They’re a topic unto themselves—villains, basically.

And no, nobody is born that way. A child is just a pure child when they're born, and as they grow, they act like a sponge, absorbing everything they see or hear.
It makes you realize how vital it is for a child to grow up in a healthy environment, I suppose.
Robin Hayes2 Robin Hayes2 Newcomer
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#614 ·
Mark Foster said:Well, I believe healing can still take place even after His passing. You really ought to spend some time reading through the Bible... specifically the Epistles and things of that nature.
It’s often said that the amount of healing you receive is directly tied to the depth of your faith... what else can one truly say about such a thing? 🙂
After all, why would God choose to perform a healing specifically for you?

So, that's it. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. 😍 Beautiful thoughts. div>
Paul Collins7 Paul Collins7 Newcomer
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#615 ·
Robin Hayes2 said:So, that's it. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. 😍 Beautiful thoughts. div>

That seems like a bit of a silly question, if I’m being honest. It’s not as if we are in direct contact with Him, so how could any of us possibly provide a definitive answer? All we can really do is speculate. Personally, I’ve always been somewhat skeptical of technology and this constant drive toward "progress." There was a certain beauty to the way life used to be before we were constantly tethered to all these modern gadgets. The truth is often obscured, but I fear that this relentless pursuit of advancement is ultimately leading us toward self-destruction. Perhaps He withholds certain types of knowledge from us because it simply isn't good for our souls—or perhaps that kind of knowledge doesn't originate from Him at all, but from the devil instead. Anyway, I should probably stop acting like I have all the answers. Hehe.
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
158 messages
joined Feb 2012
#616 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:You've become quite the Taoist😁


20. The Sage and the World
Intellect limits life. What difference does "yes" or "no" make? What difference does good or evil make?
Should one follow the crowd or act like everyone else?
Oh, awakening is still a long way off.
The majority is filled with superficial joys,
as if they were feasting at banquets,
as if they were lounging on a spring patio,
but I am quiet, anchored in the source of feeling,
like a newborn baby who doesn't even
know how to laugh yet,
unattached, like a man without a home.
The majority has more than enough,
yet I, it seems, have nothing,
my spirit is mindless and empty.
The majority knows,
while I am ignorant and confused.
The majority is sharp and clever,
while I am dull,
patient as the ocean,
carried along, seemingly without purpose.
The majority has a sense of purpose,
while I am impractical and unrefined.

I am different from the majority,
most notably in that I seek support from Mother.

19. Virtue and Self
Discard knowledge, abandon cleverness! The well-being of the community will flourish.
Discard customs and abandon laws!
Family love will return.
Discard cunning, abandon desire!
Thieves and bandits will vanish.

Those three touch the external and are not enough,
so they must assume a higher principle.
Discover your unadorned self,
embrace your primal source,
restrain your egoism,
and be simple.


So someone seeks support from Mother. And someone from Father. And someone from the Son.

Last time I wasn't really feeling it, so I bypassed you—just didn't want to ruin your vibe. 😉

But today, I'm saying hello, Benjamin Taylor6—how are things? Everything okay with you? 🙂
I was reading something you wrote yesterday—that bit about your neighbor, how he's such a great guy and cares so much about his two kids.
Man, I actually cracked up reading that; it was pure comedy gold.

As for me?... Am I like the Tao now?
Don't worry about me; I'm not changing, still stuck in the same beliefs.
It's just that sometimes I feel like having a normal conversation with people, away from all the posturing happening on this forum... I guess I call that my "five-minute break." 😉
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#617 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Last time I wasn't really feeling it, so I bypassed you—just didn't want to ruin your vibe. 😉

But today, I'm saying hello, Benjamin Taylor6—how are things? Everything okay with you? 🙂
I was reading something you wrote yesterday—that bit about your neighbor, how he's such a great guy and cares so much about his two kids.
Man, I actually cracked up reading that; it was pure comedy gold.

As for me?... Am I like the Tao now?
Don't worry about me; I'm not changing, still stuck in the same beliefs.
It's just that sometimes I feel like having a normal conversation with people, away from all the posturing happening on this forum... I guess I call that my "five-minute break." 😉

Well, that priest had quite the big day today. See, on the first Sunday of every month, he holds this service that drags on for two hours and wraps up with a whole thing about falling under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Of course, at every single service, he makes sure to mention that you should probably buy his books. The money doesn't go to the Church, mind you—it goes straight to his kids.

And the Tao is apparently the Mother. Even though it’s grammatically masculine. Or maybe neutral. ☕
Maria Robinson2 Maria Robinson2 Active Member
158 messages
joined Feb 2012
#618 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Well, that priest had quite the big day today. See, on the first Sunday of every month, he holds this service that drags on for two hours and wraps up with a whole thing about falling under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Of course, at every single service, he makes sure to mention that you should probably buy his books. The money doesn't go to the Church, mind you—it goes straight to his kids.

And the Tao is apparently the Mother. Even though it’s grammatically masculine. Or maybe neutral. ☕

Benjamin Taylor6, we should have our first BBQ together 🙂🙂

You bring your family, I'll bring mine, and we can just enjoy the weather together.
We'll blast some rock music—loud enough that the priest can hear it over his fence.

As for the money?... Well, you know how the racket works—it either goes to his kids, him, or some other preachers.
I don't get why you even bother attending mass... are you waiting for the day you finally walk away from that weird "group" for good?!
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#619 ·
Maria Robinson2 said:Benjamin Taylor6, we should have our first BBQ together 🙂🙂

You bring your family, I'll bring mine, and we can just enjoy the weather together.
We'll blast some rock music—loud enough that the priest can hear it over his fence.

As for the money?... Well, you know how the racket works—it either goes to his kids, him, or some other preachers.
I don't get why you even bother attending mass... are you waiting for the day you finally walk away from that weird "group" for good?!

But look, I'm a TEOZOF through and through. We're the ones who actually study life in its rawest form—deeply, intensely. Some of us even find ourselves praying to every possible god under the sun. Even the atheists in our circle end up whispering prayers to some Great Non-Existent 😂
Michael Anderson2 Michael Anderson2 Active Member
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#620 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:But look, I'm a TEOZOF through and through. We're the ones who actually study life in its rawest form—deeply, intensely. Some of us even find ourselves praying to every possible god under the sun. Even the atheists in our circle end up whispering prayers to some Great Non-Existent 😂

We don't bother praying to anyone—our philosophy is more along the lines of "trust yourself and your own grit." Interestingly enough, even the religious folks have a similar mindset: help yourself first, and then maybe God will step in... 😁

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