Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

Michael Anderson2 said:We don't bother praying to anyone—our philosophy is more along the lines of "trust yourself and your own grit." Interestingly enough, even the religious folks have a similar mindset: help yourself first, and then maybe God will step in... 😁

I actually touched on this earlier here:

I remember reading about this one guy—a former CIA agent who turned into a contract killer for some small town back before World War II. He did the job without a single shred of guilt, mostly because he used to brag about being an atheist. Then, one day, his son was in a horrific accident, and everything was hanging by a thread. A few days later, word reached him at the CIA headquarters that his son had finally woken up from the coma and would pull through. The man rushed straight to the hospital, but while he was in the locker room getting ready to leave, something just clicked in his brain. He realized he had been incredibly, almost unnaturally lucky that his son survived. So, he looked up toward the ceiling and said, "Thank you, God, for saving my son." And in that exact moment, he thought to himself: "God, you don't even exist. But regardless of whether you're real or not, I'm still thanking you for the help."

Benjamin Taylor6 said:But look, I'm a TEOZOF through and through. We're the ones who actually study life in its rawest form—deeply, intensely. Some of us even find ourselves praying to every possible god under the sun. Even the atheists in our circle end up whispering prayers to some Great Non-Existent 😂

Well, I suppose I’ve moved past all that—maybe I just got tired of drowning in books. Everything living started feeling a bit too cluttered, so I figured, why not just pick one thing and stick to it? Something like that, I guess...

Michael Anderson2 said:We don't bother praying to anyone—our philosophy is more along the lines of "trust yourself and your own grit." Interestingly enough, even the religious folks have a similar mindset: help yourself first, and then maybe God will step in... 😁

People who live by that mindset aren't actually believers; they’re just playing a part and confusing everyone around them.

A true believer knows what the Bible says: put your trust in nothing and no one—not even another person—except for Me, your God.
That’s basically one of the core principles for believers.
So, I guess you can tell who the real ones are by how they act.

Maria Robinson2 said:People who live by that mindset aren't actually believers; they’re just playing a part and confusing everyone around them.

A true believer knows what the Bible says: put your trust in nothing and no one—not even another person—except for Me, your God.
That’s basically one of the core principles for believers.
So, I guess you can tell who the real ones are by how they act.

It's possible—entirely possible. I actually found myself facing a similar dilemma once, and let me tell you...

I was caught in what I'd call a very unenviable situation—one that was genuinely life-threatening, my own fault, too. In those moments where you feel completely stripped of control, the temptation is overwhelming to just surrender everything to "God's hands," move forward, and let whatever happens, happen.

But, it suddenly hit me—regardless of the circumstances, I had to take certain steps to improve my own odds. Charging blindly ahead while relying solely on divine intervention didn't strike me as particularly wise. So, I took action, and those measures ended up working out; if they hadn't, I wouldn't be here typing this right now... 😁

Now, the question remains: was that divine intervention, or did I overcome the crisis through my own abilities—or perhaps just pure luck? Should a true believer really rush headlong into danger with the name of God on their lips? 😁

Maria Robinson2 said:Well, I suppose I’ve moved past all that—maybe I just got tired of drowning in books. Everything living started feeling a bit too cluttered, so I figured, why not just pick one thing and stick to it? Something like that, I guess...

The real issue, though, is that you can't exactly wrap your hands around my God and hold on tight.😁

Michael Anderson2 said:It's possible—entirely possible. I actually found myself facing a similar dilemma once, and let me tell you...

I was caught in what I'd call a very unenviable situation—one that was genuinely life-threatening, my own fault, too. In those moments where you feel completely stripped of control, the temptation is overwhelming to just surrender everything to "God's hands," move forward, and let whatever happens, happen.

But, it suddenly hit me—regardless of the circumstances, I had to take certain steps to improve my own odds. Charging blindly ahead while relying solely on divine intervention didn't strike me as particularly wise. So, I took action, and those measures ended up working out; if they hadn't, I wouldn't be here typing this right now... 😁

Now, the question remains: was that divine intervention, or did I overcome the crisis through my own abilities—or perhaps just pure luck? Should a true believer really rush headlong into danger with the name of God on their lips? 😁

Didn't God give humans intellect to actually use it?
You can see for yourself that, given the situation,

we understand that sometimes we succeed and sometimes we don't, which implies we have little control over our own paths when we rely solely on ourselves.
We try to lean on friends, too, but they can fail us—whether intentionally or simply because they lack the power to help.

That is why God said to rely only on Him; we should trust Him, because once we do, He steps in precisely when things start spinning out of control—when everyone else walks away or finds themselves unable to help because they just don't know how.
And God always knows how to handle it; He knows, but He waits for the person to realize it. He doesn't intervene immediately like people expect; He knows the right timing for everyone.
As for human needs being just needs... well, that's a whole different story.

I'm not sure if you followed me—lately, I have this feeling that nobody understands what I'm saying, let alone what I'm asking.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:The real issue, though, is that you can't exactly wrap your hands around my God and hold on tight.😁

I clicked your link just to see where you were going with this... but sorry, Benjamin Taylor6, I tapped out after the first few lines.
If only people knew how much heavy lifting my brain has done over the years—reading everything from dense philosophy to stuff that makes your head spin.
Lately, though—I don't know, maybe it's just a phase—I’ve cleared all that clutter away. I’m more into just... talking. That's really all I want now. Just some easy, good-natured conversation... hearing what others think, sharing my own thoughts, and then heading off after coffee on a sunny patio with a simple, "see you around soon."😉

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Maria Robinson2 says: I actually clicked your link just to see what you were about... but sorry, Benjamin Taylor6, I had to bail after the first few sentences. If only you knew how much junk I’ve sucked up over the years—everything from random trivia to philosophy so dense it practically shorts out your brain. But today? I don't know, I feel like I've finally cleared the mental clutter. I'm feeling centered. These days, I'd much rather just have a chill conversation with people... that's really all I'm looking for. Just some easygoing, good-natured back-and-forth... hearing what others think, sharing my own two cents, and then heading off after coffee on a sunny patio with a simple "see you around soon."😉

Honestly, you're worse than that old king in Syracuse who threw a fit because there was too much math at those Archimedean lectures.😁
The guy basically told him he should go spend time with the queen in the bedroom instead. No math required there, and certainly no headaches—unless, of course, things get a little too intense.😁

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Maria Robinson2 says: I actually clicked your link just to see what you were about... but sorry, Benjamin Taylor6, I had to bail after the first few sentences. If only you knew how much junk I’ve sucked up over the years—everything from random trivia to philosophy so dense it practically shorts out your brain. But today? I don't know, I feel like I've finally cleared the mental clutter. I'm feeling centered. These days, I'd much rather just have a chill conversation with people... that's really all I'm looking for. Just some easygoing, good-natured back-and-forth... hearing what others think, sharing my own two cents, and then heading off after coffee on a sunny patio with a simple "see you around soon."😉

Honestly, you're worse than that old king in Syracuse who threw a fit because there was too much math at those Archimedean lectures.😁
The guy basically told him he should go spend time with the queen in the bedroom instead. No math required there, and certainly no headaches—unless, of course, things get a little too intense.😁

Hilarious, as usual. 😁

Honestly, I’m finding myself less interested in what people are posting on this forum lately—maybe my energy is just dipping, though my interest seems to have vanished somewhere along the way. 🤷
I still check in on a few specific users, and yours is particularly entertaining; when you flip your perspective, you're one of the rare ones who always has something new to say.

Consider this my official diploma for you. 😉

Maria Robinson2 said:Didn't God give humans intellect to actually use it?
You can see for yourself that, given the situation,

we understand that sometimes we succeed and sometimes we don't, which implies we have little control over our own paths when we rely solely on ourselves.
We try to lean on friends, too, but they can fail us—whether intentionally or simply because they lack the power to help.

That is why God said to rely only on Him; we should trust Him, because once we do, He steps in precisely when things start spinning out of control—when everyone else walks away or finds themselves unable to help because they just don't know how.
And God always knows how to handle it; He knows, but He waits for the person to realize it. He doesn't intervene immediately like people expect; He knows the right timing for everyone.
As for human needs being just needs... well, that's a whole different story.

I'm not sure if you followed me—lately, I have this feeling that nobody understands what I'm saying, let alone what I'm asking.

Regards,

God does not always intervene.

Because this isn't eternal life.

This life is merely a path toward eternity.

Every person must live through it.

And accept whatever life throws their way.

Both the joys and the sorrows.

Both birth and death.

But one must also accept eternal life.

Regards,

briskotter192 said:Regards,

God does not always intervene.

Because this isn't eternal life.

This life is merely a path toward eternity.

Every person must live through it.

And accept whatever life throws their way.

Both the joys and the sorrows.

Both birth and death.

But one must also accept eternal life.

Regards,

The Bible explains He will always help, though perhaps only those who sincerely seek Him and follow His laws—if that’s the right way to put it.
Which, I suppose, implies He won't help others at all, simply because they have no interest.

It is interesting how it's explained that Satan loves to "help"—he essentially owns the world, as was made clear out in the desert when he approached Jesus to tempt Him; he offered everything because he truly had power over it.
People who fail to understand this, or perhaps just choose not to believe, end up setting traps for themselves—unaware of who they are actually dealing with when "help" arrives.
That entity will eventually demand payment, asking for only one thing in return: a person's life, which is the ultimate cost.

I watch certain people from the sidelines—they openly despise God and blaspheme, which is frankly unpleasant to listen to—yet they seem to be doing great. They have the money, the luxury cars, the mansions, and they travel the world enjoying themselves without a care in the world... yet they still joke about how good God is to them, implying that's why they have everything while others don't.
When they finally do need help, it becomes painfully obvious who steps in to "assist" them—only to intentionally leave them hanging right when things start spiraling out of control.

Those are just a few details to consider.

Maria Robinson2 said:The Bible explains He will always help, though perhaps only those who sincerely seek Him and follow His laws—if that’s the right way to put it.
Which, I suppose, implies He won't help others at all, simply because they have no interest.

It is interesting how it's explained that Satan loves to "help"—he essentially owns the world, as was made clear out in the desert when he approached Jesus to tempt Him; he offered everything because he truly had power over it.
People who fail to understand this, or perhaps just choose not to believe, end up setting traps for themselves—unaware of who they are actually dealing with when "help" arrives.
That entity will eventually demand payment, asking for only one thing in return: a person's life, which is the ultimate cost.

I watch certain people from the sidelines—they openly despise God and blaspheme, which is frankly unpleasant to listen to—yet they seem to be doing great. They have the money, the luxury cars, the mansions, and they travel the world enjoying themselves without a care in the world... yet they still joke about how good God is to them, implying that's why they have everything while others don't.
When they finally do need help, it becomes painfully obvious who steps in to "assist" them—only to intentionally leave them hanging right when things start spiraling out of control.

Those are just a few details to consider.

God doesn't intervene constantly; He only does so when necessary.

You can seek Him with all your heart, but if He has decided your time is up tomorrow, you're going to die regardless of whether you were a saint or a sinner.

Regards

Maria Robinson2 said:Didn't God give humans intellect to actually use it?
You can see for yourself that, given the situation,

we understand that sometimes we succeed and sometimes we don't, which implies we have little control over our own paths when we rely solely on ourselves.
We try to lean on friends, too, but they can fail us—whether intentionally or simply because they lack the power to help.

That is why God said to rely only on Him; we should trust Him, because once we do, He steps in precisely when things start spinning out of control—when everyone else walks away or finds themselves unable to help because they just don't know how.
And God always knows how to handle it; He knows, but He waits for the person to realize it. He doesn't intervene immediately like people expect; He knows the right timing for everyone.
As for human needs being just needs... well, that's a whole different story.

I'm not sure if you followed me—lately, I have this feeling that nobody understands what I'm saying, let alone what I'm asking.

So, you're actually claiming that God helped me just by giving me a brain? Look, I don't know—that feels like a bit of an oversimplification to me. Honestly, I was expecting some kind of more concrete intervention... 😍

briskotter192 said:God doesn't intervene constantly; He only does so when necessary.

You can seek Him with all your heart, but if He has decided your time is up tomorrow, you're going to die regardless of whether you were a saint or a sinner.

Regards

Wait, didn't that nomad claim God doesn't exist—that it was just about "civilization"?

Michael Anderson2 said:So, you're actually claiming that God helped me just by giving me a brain? Look, I don't know—that feels like a bit of an oversimplification to me. Honestly, I was expecting some kind of more concrete intervention... 😍

Wait, didn't that nomad claim God doesn't exist—that it was just about "civilization"?

It’s clear you haven't quite grasped the facts if you're going to make a statement like that.

😁

God gave us all this intellect so we could actually use it for something meaningful, not just to exploit others. People who take advantage of the system—like those billionaires who refuse to give back to those struggling in Africa—are eventually going to get what's coming to them. Everyone gets exactly what they deserve in the end. That’s honestly why there’s an afterlife, that whole thing "up there."

🤷🤷🤷

Michael Anderson2 said:So, you're actually claiming that God helped me just by giving me a brain? Look, I don't know—that feels like a bit of an oversimplification to me. Honestly, I was expecting some kind of more concrete intervention... 😍

Wait, didn't that nomad claim God doesn't exist—that it was just about "civilization"?

Didn't I state quite clearly that the first civilization was born?

Who, then, existed before it?

It seems you haven't quite grasped the point.

Best regards,

It seems some people here still find anything straightforward completely unacceptable
it’s as if they have an inherent allergy to simplicity—they much prefer the endless, exhausting complication they seem to enjoy so much 😁

I suppose it’s because they think if things stop being complicated, they might actually lose their reason for existing 😁

which is why what Jesus said was quite brilliant: Thank You, Father, for hiding wisdom from the wise (the philosophers) and revealing it to little children

that is precisely why certain individuals here will never, ever grasp the true essence of things
they can spin themselves in circles for the rest of their lives, but actual knowledge will remain out of reach as long as they live

that is the reward for all their "effort"
the "prize" for everything they've "achieved" through philosophizing

mind you, there will be philosophers who eventually abandon their theories—but only those who realize there is absolutely no utility in them
only then will they have any fertile ground for actual growth in the right direction 🙂

I’ve been staying away from this thread because, frankly, I couldn't stand the title.

The idea that God withholds knowledge is just plain false. It’s actually quite telling how many people who claim they don't believe in God have nothing but grievances about life on Earth (as if it's the only reality that matters). They need God as a scapegoat so they can blame Him for their own lack of initiative—not to mention their sheer laziness. Look, if you insist He doesn't exist, then who exactly do you think is responsible for the state of the world right now?

Human beings possess knowledge, plenty of it. And God provides it, even when we aren't actively begging for it.

Imagine the possibilities if most people actually sought wisdom from God!

Maria Robinson2 said:It seems some people here still find anything straightforward completely unacceptable
it’s as if they have an inherent allergy to simplicity—they much prefer the endless, exhausting complication they seem to enjoy so much 😁

I suppose it’s because they think if things stop being complicated, they might actually lose their reason for existing 😁

which is why what Jesus said was quite brilliant: Thank You, Father, for hiding wisdom from the wise (the philosophers) and revealing it to little children

that is precisely why certain individuals here will never, ever grasp the true essence of things
they can spin themselves in circles for the rest of their lives, but actual knowledge will remain out of reach as long as they live

that is the reward for all their "effort"
the "prize" for everything they've "achieved" through philosophizing

mind you, there will be philosophers who eventually abandon their theories—but only those who realize there is absolutely no utility in them
only then will they have any fertile ground for actual growth in the right direction 🙂

You hit the nail on the head. Why settle for simple when you can make everything unnecessarily difficult? 🙂

William Williams7 said:I’ve been staying away from this thread because, frankly, I couldn't stand the title.

The idea that God withholds knowledge is just plain false. It’s actually quite telling how many people who claim they don't believe in God have nothing but grievances about life on Earth (as if it's the only reality that matters). They need God as a scapegoat so they can blame Him for their own lack of initiative—not to mention their sheer laziness. Look, if you insist He doesn't exist, then who exactly do you think is responsible for the state of the world right now?

Human beings possess knowledge, plenty of it. And God provides it, even when we aren't actively begging for it.

Imagine the possibilities if most people actually sought wisdom from God!

You hit the nail on the head. Why settle for simple when you can make everything unnecessarily difficult? 🙂

What specific kind of knowledge has God actually given you, if any?

briskotter192 said:Didn't I state quite clearly that the first civilization was born?

Who, then, existed before it?

It seems you haven't quite grasped the point.

Best regards,

I'm not sure—was it actually born? Who gave birth to it? And when?

briskotter192 said:Didn't I state quite clearly that the first civilization was born?

Who, then, existed before it?

It seems you haven't quite grasped the point.

Best regards,

I don't know—who existed before it?

briskotter192 said:Didn't I state quite clearly that the first civilization was born?

Who, then, existed before it?

It seems you haven't quite grasped the point.

Best regards,

No, I didn't. Care to elaborate?