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Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

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Lisa Bailey5 Lisa Bailey5 Newcomer
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#61 ·
Susan Green15 said:What could possibly be the noble reasoning behind an omniscient God choosing not to share the kind of knowledge that could save millions of lives or simply make our existence less of a struggle?
During the Middle Ages, countless millions perished from the plague and various other ailments, not to mention the periods of famine caused by things like potato blight wiping out crops.
Why didn't God explain the mechanics of the plague or how to treat it, instead just watching silently as millions died, leaving us to stumble upon the cures entirely on our own?

Why do people continue to praise Jesus for miraculous healings rather than criticizing him for using his knowledge and abilities for his own promotion and glory, instead of teaching humanity medicine so we could actually heal ourselves—both in greater numbers and long after his passing?

It almost feels as though the Holy Spirit, who was sent to provide us with instruction, has taken a bit of a vacation, and the eternal celestial figure Mary doesn't seem particularly interested in concrete matters; she seems much more focused on discussing world peace with beautiful blondes and brunettes.

But what is the actual purpose of knowledge anyway? After all, the cavalry of Armageddon will soon descend to sweep away this old world, and everything will be different then.

We aren't going to truly know how old the Earth is or how deep the ocean goes, nor the distance of those stars or the other mysteries, regardless of how wisely the inspired Christian leaders of the second, third, or subsequent centuries try to teach us.

The real question, however, is why Satan remains silent. They say he is quite an intelligent fellow, and he could have easily gathered followers by teaching people and mocking Abrahamic truths, rather than just being accused of burying fake dinosaur fossils, stealing the copyrights of biblical prophets to cleverly copy them into pagan books, and, of course, organizing millennial incursions into our minds and bodies just for his own amusement.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#62 ·
Olivia Kern3 said:I have to admit, hardly anyone actually gets this... I've mentioned it here before, but if you really want to dig deep, don't just stop at the surface level of the Bible. You've got to dive much deeper into the mythology.

Unfortunately, most people simply lack the capacity for that kind of depth. At any rate, what I wrote is my honest take on the Bible. It’s a shame, really, that so many fail to realize how we are programmed from childhood to serve and bow down to Satan ("God").

It's all quite tragic, honestly.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#63 ·
Honestly, you people are so blinded by your own arrogance that even if God stood right in front of you, you wouldn't believe it. You need to shatter those egos that aren't built on anything solid and just embrace simplicity. Everything is actually quite straightforward, but you keep trying to overanalyze things that simply can't be understood—things that the greatest minds throughout history already figured out long ago.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#64 ·
blueeagle22 said:Honestly, you people are so blinded by your own arrogance that even if God stood right in front of you, you wouldn't believe it. You need to shatter those egos that aren't built on anything solid and just embrace simplicity. Everything is actually quite straightforward, but you keep trying to overanalyze things that simply can't be understood—things that the greatest minds throughout history already figured out long ago.

We don't share your perspective, so we're supposedly "lost." It’s interesting, really—you lecture us about shedding our egos to embrace "simplicity," yet since you claim to have already embraced it, one would assume you dealt with your own ego ages ago. Hmm.

Furthermore, faith—or belief, if you prefer—is nothing more than a defensive mechanism employed by a fearful ego.

You argue that everything is simple, implying you understand it, but then you immediately follow up by stating that such things cannot be understood. I'm sorry, what?

And what exactly did these geniuses conclude?
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#65 ·
Nancy Wilson2 said:We don't share your perspective, so we're supposedly "lost." It’s interesting, really—you lecture us about shedding our egos to embrace "simplicity," yet since you claim to have already embraced it, one would assume you dealt with your own ego ages ago. Hmm.

Furthermore, faith—or belief, if you prefer—is nothing more than a defensive mechanism employed by a fearful ego.

You argue that everything is simple, implying you understand it, but then you immediately follow up by stating that such things cannot be understood. I'm sorry, what?

And what exactly did these geniuses conclude?


I understand that life itself is beyond comprehension; if I truly understood it, I'd be God. I take things as they come. I admit I'm struggling because all of this gets under my skin. Part of me wants to just slap the atheists, but then I realize that would only leave me feeling worse. At the end of the day, they're just people—suffering, unhappy, and in desperate need of some compassion and love.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#66 ·
blueeagle22 said:I understand that life itself is beyond comprehension; if I truly understood it, I'd be God. I take things as they come. I admit I'm struggling because all of this gets under my skin. Part of me wants to just slap the atheists, but then I realize that would only leave me feeling worse. At the end of the day, they're just people—suffering, unhappy, and in desperate need of some compassion and love.

Take a look at what modern science tells us regarding the physical manifestation of life as we experience it in this dimension. That is merely the first piece of the puzzle.

Then, delve into spirituality—into the concept of the soul and such. This represents the "non-physical" aspect of life within higher dimensions—a realm that material science hasn't fully grasped yet, though they are slowly inching toward a higher level of understanding. That is your second piece. Together, these two elements form a complete picture, illustrating just how mysterious and infinite life truly is.

For anyone to actually grasp the truth, they have to cast aside religious dogma and its polar opposite—the rigid stance that there is no God, that no dimensions beyond the material exist, and that the soul is a myth. The idea that everything is just matter and what we see is all there is... that's the mindset one must move past. And once you do, you still have to shed the ego—that complex identification of mind and body. It is quite similar to saying "I am a car"—or more accurately, "I am the steering wheel," while ignoring the fact that someone is actually driving. In reality, consciousness (the soul) is the driver, the mind is the steering wheel—the tool—and the body is simply the vehicle. Honestly, one major reason the world is such a mess is that people lack this awareness. But, slowly, that is beginning to change.

Live your life and let others live theirs. We are all "suffering" in our own way because we are all part of something we weren't meant to be—but that is becoming far too off-topic.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#67 ·
I’ve gone through some of those books, and there's definitely a grain of truth in them. But I’m never walking away from my faith in God—He is everything. I do agree, though, that we need to ditch organized religion. We should just be natural. We are part of nature, even if we happen to be its most destructive element. In the wild, nothing kills because it wants to; they kill because they have to. Humans are different; we kill just because we have the capacity. Anything that cages the mind needs to be thrown out. Everything has a logical explanation.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#68 ·
blueeagle22 said:I’ve gone through some of those books, and there's definitely a grain of truth in them. But I’m never walking away from my faith in God—He is everything. I do agree, though, that we need to ditch organized religion. We should just be natural. We are part of nature, even if we happen to be its most destructive element. In the wild, nothing kills because it wants to; they kill because they have to. Humans are different; we kill just because we have the capacity. Anything that cages the mind needs to be thrown out. Everything has a logical explanation.

Why settle for belief when you can have certainty? To believe in something is, quite simply, to admit a lack of knowledge.

God is everything? Nature? You sound a bit like a pantheist to me—though, I suppose I would argue that a pantheistic view of God is the closest anyone gets to the truth. It isn't perfectly accurate, but it's as close as it gets.

And I think you're mistaken in equating us entirely with these biological machines we currently inhabit. Those machines are actually destroying us; they are part of material nature, yes, but they possess a slight handicap that isn't our fault. The concept of "US" is far more expansive than you might imagine. Furthermore, we aren't the ones at fault—it is the ego, which is distinct from our true selves. In fact, we aren't even inherently responsible for our actions; there is another force at play entirely.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#69 ·
Ever since I started reading the Quran, it’s been like an addiction I can't shake. It’s hit home because it validates everything I already believed. The text basically tells us that God wants us to study everything—that the universe is designed to be understood by the human mind. It warns against blind faith, urging us to think critically about everything so our belief actually comes from the heart. I've always stood for the truth, and there’s only one truth, so I’m right behind what you're saying. To me, God isn't some distant spirit floating in the clouds; He is everything. But honestly, reading this book is dangerous for people who aren't prepared. It'll wash your brain out if you aren't careful. That book is something else entirely.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#70 ·
blueeagle22 said:Ever since I started reading the Quran, it’s been like an addiction I can't shake. It’s hit home because it validates everything I already believed. The text basically tells us that God wants us to study everything—that the universe is designed to be understood by the human mind. It warns against blind faith, urging us to think critically about everything so our belief actually comes from the heart. I've always stood for the truth, and there’s only one truth, so I’m right behind what you're saying. To me, God isn't some distant spirit floating in the clouds; He is everything. But honestly, reading this book is dangerous for people who aren't prepared. It'll wash your brain out if you aren't careful. That book is something else entirely.

I haven't personally studied the Quran, though even what you’ve written doesn't stray far from the mark. I certainly agree with the necessity of critical thinking regarding all matters.

I also concur that God is not a "person," nor a spirit, or whatever else one might imagine—we aren't talking about some character here.

If this "He" is indeed the creator of everything—of the entire universe—then we must be discussing a form of energy. I would argue that at the very beginning, there existed an infinite nothingness—what I call 😁
. However, if its emergence wasn't accidental, then we must be looking at consciousness or a universal Mind.
Perhaps this whole reality is merely the dream of an infinite consciousness? If memory serves, the Vedas suggest that "the universe is the dream of God."
It is fascinating how certain indications seem to support that notion.
edit: Or perhaps "He" is precisely that infinite consciousness—meaning, all of us collectively😁—while religions exist primarily to distance us from ourselves, portraying God as something "out there," far removed from our reach. They aim to suggest that "He" maintains control over our lives, rather than we holding that agency ourselves.

But ultimately, we can only speculate. "The realization of infinity belongs only to the gods; we mortals can only gather bits of wisdom."😁
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#71 ·
Exactly. There’s a certain type of knowledge out there that simply doesn't originate from this world. Who knows? Maybe every religion just cherry-picked bits of it and twisted them to suit their own agendas. But you can't deny it—there is truth buried deep within those books.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#72 ·
Nancy Wilson2 said:Regarding the matter of divine casualties versus the concept of good and evil—and please forgive me if this feels slightly tangential to our main discussion—

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot....an-or-god.html

Who, strictly speaking, has caused more death: God or Satan?

When you actually sit down and tally the numbers found in the Bible, the data is quite striking. God is responsible for approximately 2,476,633 deaths—many of whom were entirely innocent—whereas Satan is credited with only 10. If we look at the broader cumulative estimates, we are talking about God being responsible for roughly 25 million deaths, compared to a mere 60 attributed to Satan.

By that metric, one has to ask: who is truly the force of good here, God or Satan? 🙂


You honestly have no clue what you're talking about. It's like you missed out on basic schooling entirely. Good grief. I'm sorry, but I really had to say it. ☕
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#73 ·
blueeagle22 said:Exactly. There’s a certain type of knowledge out there that simply doesn't originate from this world. Who knows? Maybe every religion just cherry-picked bits of it and twisted them to suit their own agendas. But you can't deny it—there is truth buried deep within those books.

I would personally swap out the term "supernatural" for something more precise—perhaps multiple or parallel spheres of existence. And yes, a significant amount of what we know did originate from there; even certain insights were never truly authored by humans. It is as clear as day that religions function through spiritual manipulation—there is no doubt about that. Naturally, they have cherry-picked fragments of "higher truth" and reorganized them however they saw fit, all to ensure they could mold people into an obedient flock. No single source is ever 100% accurate; lies and misinformation are ubiquitous. Think of the mind as a block of Swiss cheese—you consume all this information (the lies and the distortions), and they fill those holes, which eventually harden into dogmas. What happens when the actual truth arrives? Those very dogmas have programmed you to reject it. That is why the most vital task is to seek truth and knowledge within oneself. Memorized data has absolutely nothing to do with true knowledge—that is a profound delusion, and frankly, it baffles me that people haven't realized this yet. However, when you grant yourself moments of silence—when you engage in internal dialogue, reflect, and truly contemplate—that is when you begin digging for the knowledge residing in our core. When, through intuition, you suddenly experience a flood of insight, that is the result of seeking truth and knowledge internally. That is how the process works.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#74 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:You honestly have no clue what you're talking about. It's like you missed out on basic schooling entirely. Good grief. I'm sorry, but I really had to say it. ☕

nothing*—and you also forgot to put a space after your punctuation. Besides, try not to take everything so seriously. It was obviously a joke, for heaven's sake. (Honestly, one look at your signature tells me everything I need to know 😁). It isn't bad, per se. In fact, even Satan isn't quite what people imagine Him to be.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#75 ·
You’re absolutely right about that. The scripture teaches us that truth isn't found out in the world, but deep within ourselves, because God lives inside us. That's why I hold the book in such high regard; the heart recognizes the truth immediately. It’s just like what the teachings say—once you read something, you feel that internal spark if it's real. Anyway, I'm heading out for a bit. I let my temper get the better of me, and I know I wasn't acting according to God's word, but damn it, I'm only human. I'm flesh and blood, not perfect. haha
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#76 ·
blueeagle22 said:You’re absolutely right about that. The scripture teaches us that truth isn't found out in the world, but deep within ourselves, because God lives inside us. That's why I hold the book in such high regard; the heart recognizes the truth immediately. It’s just like what the teachings say—once you read something, you feel that internal spark if it's real. Anyway, I'm heading out for a bit. I let my temper get the better of me, and I know I wasn't acting according to God's word, but damn it, I'm only human. I'm flesh and blood, not perfect. haha

👍

Goodnight.
I'm signing off as well.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#77 ·
Nancy Wilson2 said:nothing*—and you also forgot to put a space after your punctuation. Besides, try not to take everything so seriously. It was obviously a joke, for heaven's sake. (Honestly, one look at your signature tells me everything I need to know 😁). It isn't bad, per se. In fact, even Satan isn't quite what people imagine Him to be.

So, what defines Satan to you?
electricranger16 electricranger16 Member
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#78 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:So, what defines Satan to you?

Satan is the Devil.🤷
Kyle White7 Kyle White7 Newcomer
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#79 ·
Susan Green15 said:What could possibly be the noble reasoning behind an omniscient God choosing not to share the kind of knowledge that could save millions of lives or simply make our existence less of a struggle?
During the Middle Ages, countless millions perished from the plague and various other ailments, not to mention the periods of famine caused by things like potato blight wiping out crops.
Why didn't God explain the mechanics of the plague or how to treat it, instead just watching silently as millions died, leaving us to stumble upon the cures entirely on our own?

Why do people continue to praise Jesus for miraculous healings rather than criticizing him for using his knowledge and abilities for his own promotion and glory, instead of teaching humanity medicine so we could actually heal ourselves—both in greater numbers and long after his passing?

Because God is just an imaginary friend for adults... ☕
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#80 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:So, what defines Satan to you?

It is that specific condition where one is born entirely oblivious to their true origins within the higher spheres—born into a world saturated with individuals in much the same state. They are disconnected from the Source. From infancy, they are fed guilt and shame; they are indoctrinated with nonsense, essentially being conditioned to destroy the very life that is, on the highest scale, sovereign. One spends an entire lifetime in this particular state of consciousness, only to be cycled back here upon death because the necessary lessons were never truly mastered. Therefore, for me, Satan is simply the state of consciousness inhabited by any life force that has become severed from its own essence.

And it is thanks to that disconnection that we have everything you see surrounding you today.

Satan represents everything that people accept with open arms—both within themselves and in the world around them—only to die within that acceptance and be reborn, all because of things they were forced to embrace from birth. In my view, these patterns are quite obvious.

There was once a time when we were guided not by Satanic consciousness, but by the consciousness of the Creator. That is a state of being that almost none of us have ever actually experienced—love at its absolute highest level. Not the version of love we are taught from childhood, which is merely one of many manipulations and falsehoods introduced by the Lucifer Collective several millennia ago.

The primary manifestations of this Satanic consciousness are murder, suicide, hatred—everything you witness daily if you look closely enough, or even just read about it. Even the clothes you wear are products of that consciousness; the water you drink, the food you consume, the very thoughts you think... I suppose I needn't go any further.

Satan is truly the master of the human race.
A master who is worshipped through various religions and so-called "good" gods—deities who, curiously enough, possess all the hallmarks of Satanic consciousness: anger, hatred, killing, judgment, hierarchy, and so on. This serves as proof that these are all false, fabricated idols.

This is something we are all part of, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. You, as much as I, are part of Satan. The greatest resistance one can offer is to reject the ego and hatred, and instead cultivate a deeper understanding of oneself and others. Naturally, this also involves reducing our consumption of everything produced by that same system.

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