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Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

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Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#101 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:I agree with you. The music we listen to, the things we buy, politics... essentially, everything is under Satan's domain. Why? Because humanity sold itself to the devil, and that is why so many suffer. I am fully aware of this. We are a part of this machine, and in a way, we finance it ourselves.
But I believe in God. I pray to God, and amidst all this evil, I try my hardest to be good and to do good. And I won't give up, because my faith is unshakable.

It is curious how you find common ground with me, even though I view the matter quite differently from what your faith preaches. But no matter.
Satan isn't the one pulling the strings here. Think of him merely as a sort of electric shock used to keep us trapped inside a prison. Who do you think built the prison, and who is actually controlling Satan?
The Antithesis—symbolically referred to in the Bible as Lucifer. Go ahead, look up the meaning of that name; you will realize where these forces originated. It isn't just about one individual figure. There is an entire group that emerged following them.
And make no mistake—humanity didn't just surrender to this destructive consciousness on a whim; at that time, we simply had no other choice.
goldenscout14 goldenscout14 Active Member
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#102 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:I agree with you. The music we listen to, the things we buy, politics... essentially, everything is under Satan's domain. Why? Because humanity sold itself to the devil, and that is why so many suffer. I am fully aware of this. We are a part of this machine, and in a way, we finance it ourselves.
But I believe in God. I pray to God, and amidst all this evil, I try my hardest to be good and to do good. And I won't give up, because my faith is unshakable.

But I find myself wondering, at what specific point in history did this actually take place? Who exactly was authorized to sign away our collective rights in some cosmic sales agreement on behalf of every single one of us? And if Satan is truly this dominant force on Earth, why isn't there a single holiday dedicated to him?🤔
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#103 ·
goldenscout14 said:But I find myself wondering, at what specific point in history did this actually take place? Who exactly was authorized to sign away our collective rights in some cosmic sales agreement on behalf of every single one of us? And if Satan is truly this dominant force on Earth, why isn't there a single holiday dedicated to him?🤔

🤦

It happened roughly a millennium ago, give or take.
As for who signed the contract? No one—it was forced upon us against our will.
And don't be naive; there are plenty of "holidays"—just ask any Satanist or our dear Illuminati overlords when they hold their ceremonies to summon spirits and invite possession.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#104 ·
According to the Quran, God intentionally lets Satan run loose. He isn't some separate entity acting outside of God's control; nothing is more powerful or smarter than the Creator. If God wanted to, He could wipe Satan out in a heartbeat, but instead, He allows him to exist to throw obstacles in our path so we can actually learn who God is. Nancy Wilson2, what kind of books are you reading if this is what you've come to believe?
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#105 ·
I believe people have fundamentally misunderstood the situation—really, they’ve gotten it all wrong. We aren't dealing with a single entity known as Satan; please, try to grasp that. What we are actually facing is a collective of entities that were symbolically depicted in the Bible as Lucifer. They are simply disconnected from the Creator—they possess their own consciousness that operates entirely independently from the Source. They have their own agenda, which is precisely why they have arrived here. To achieve this agenda, they had to sever our connection to the consciousness of the Creator, to the Source, to life itself. They accomplished this by possessing individuals, using that as a mechanism of control to establish a hierarchy—essentially creating the broken state of modern society we see today. They have implanted within us a specific type of consciousness—one that consumes and destroys other life, spreading like a malignancy; one could call that particular consciousness Satan. There is another group besides them—conspiracy theorists like David Icke have referred to them as reptilians—but even he, much like everyone else, has misinterpreted them. People are out there searching for physical evidence of someone being a reptile—it's almost laughable, really. Just go onto YouTube and watch some videos on the subject. These, too, are non-physical entities, a form of life roughly equivalent to the Lucifer group; they are astral entities, demons—call them whatever you like. By "astral," I am referring to the lower 4th dimension from which they originate. All of them were created by the Creator, just as we were. We are equals. The only difference is that they have separated themselves from the Source and act against it, much like we do. This isn't some grand, cinematic battle between good and evil—forget about that concept—it is simply a matter of things being out of balance.

blueeagle22 said:According to the Quran, God intentionally lets Satan run loose. He isn't some separate entity acting outside of God's control; nothing is more powerful or smarter than the Creator. If God wanted to, He could wipe Satan out in a heartbeat, but instead, He allows him to exist to throw obstacles in our path so we can actually learn who God is. Nancy Wilson2, what kind of books are you reading if this is what you've come to believe?

I don't read anything on the subject; certain truths are simply known through experience and deep reflection.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#106 ·
Let’s get one thing straight: God is the ultimate sovereign and the smartest being in existence. Nothing escapes Him. It makes zero sense to suggest He could create angels only to have them turn rogue and start working against Him on Earth. He knows everything—He knows their hearts, assuming those things even exist. If any angels turned away, it’s because He permitted it as part of His design. Absolutely nothing happens in this world without His consent, and nobody can pull a fast one on Him. The idea that God sent Jesus to save humanity because we somehow "messed up" His original plan is just as ridiculous. To claim He sacrificed His Son because He didn't see our sins coming? That's nonsense. God is perfect. He knew exactly who we would become before He even breathed life into us. A perfect Being doesn't make mistakes or deal with unforeseen errors. It's all just foolishness.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#107 ·
blueeagle22 said:Let’s get one thing straight: God is the ultimate sovereign and the smartest being in existence. Nothing escapes Him. It makes zero sense to suggest He could create angels only to have them turn rogue and start working against Him on Earth. He knows everything—He knows their hearts, assuming those things even exist. If any angels turned away, it’s because He permitted it as part of His design. Absolutely nothing happens in this world without His consent, and nobody can pull a fast one on Him. The idea that God sent Jesus to save humanity because we somehow "messed up" His original plan is just as ridiculous. To claim He sacrificed His Son because He didn't see our sins coming? That's nonsense. God is perfect. He knew exactly who we would become before He even breathed life into us. A perfect Being doesn't make mistakes or deal with unforeseen errors. It's all just foolishness.


It all sounds lovely on paper, but something about it feels a bit off—almost like someone is playing the victim. You know? It seems like so many people claim to speak for Him. They act like they have Him all figured out—His desires, His struggles, His hopes, how much He’s suffering up in Heaven, what He’s planning next, and what He’s doing at every single moment.

They even act like they know He’s male...😂

And that He had a son with an earthly woman through some sort of laboratory miracle, only to dispose of Him because His "product" wasn't quite up to standard.
He apparently hoped the Son would actually accomplish something, but all that was left was a supposed organization that exists just to keep itself going. Once you see through a God like that—once you realize we've basically unmasked Him—there's really nothing left to say.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#108 ·
In my view, he hasn't actually claimed to receive divine revelations or anything like that; honestly, we just find it easier to use "he" or "she" as a shorthand. There’s a universal truth out there that you can actually touch once you purge your soul of everything disrupting your inner peace. When you hit that state, you receive inspiration from God. I believe all of it stems from the Creator—people simply feel the truth in their hearts and put it on paper. Personally, I felt it myself once, right when God stepped in to help me, and that only happened because I prayed with 100% sincerity. All those healings occur because God's energy heals them; people simply align themselves with His truth, which is nothing but pure love and grace. If someone starts preaching about God but you can see they're unhinged, or even if they look perfectly normal but feel off, they're a liar. You can recognize that true divine energy just by looking at a photo of Pope John Paul II. Just look at his face.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#109 ·
blueeagle22 said:Let’s get one thing straight: God is the ultimate sovereign and the smartest being in existence. Nothing escapes Him. It makes zero sense to suggest He could create angels only to have them turn rogue and start working against Him on Earth. He knows everything—He knows their hearts, assuming those things even exist. If any angels turned away, it’s because He permitted it as part of His design. Absolutely nothing happens in this world without His consent, and nobody can pull a fast one on Him. The idea that God sent Jesus to save humanity because we somehow "messed up" His original plan is just as ridiculous. To claim He sacrificed His Son because He didn't see our sins coming? That's nonsense. God is perfect. He knew exactly who we would become before He even breathed life into us. A perfect Being doesn't make mistakes or deal with unforeseen errors. It's all just foolishness.

The Creator—or perhaps more accurately, the Creation itself—generates life and grants it the free will to act as it chooses. Naturally, it is entirely possible for life to choose, by its own volition, to sever itself from the source and begin acting against its own interests. Of course it is. And yes, we possess free will, though down here on Earth, that autonomy is suppressed and neglected due to the rigid systems and hierarchies those entities established to serve their own agendas. Do you truly imagine "He" functions like a police officer? That He micromanages every single movement? Good grief. It doesn't work quite like that. Try to step into those shoes for a moment—imagine you are God. It sounds simple enough, so let me attempt to frame it this way: close your eyes. What do you see? Darkness. That darkness—that "nothingness," that vacuum, that void—existed at the beginning, yet within it, there was consciousness. That consciousness grew weary of its own solitude and decided to initiate a game to accumulate experience. Thus, it created the game: the universe. This consciousness then fractured into billions of individual expressions—us. It is entirely plausible that the intention was to experience pain, hatred, and fear; after all, those are vital components of life and experience. The Creation is perfect, and we are as well; these fairy tales regarding "sin" are utter nonsense. Such concepts were manufactured to instill shame in us—and one might ask, who exactly authored these religions? Is that clearer now? As for these "angels" you mention—when a person passes, their spirit leaves the body; initially, the spirit retains a form similar to the physical vessel, but after a period, that "spiritual" energy—which vibrates at a much higher dimensional frequency—condenses into a single point. That is what we call the soul. "Angels" would simply be souls that have gathered more experience. However, it would be best to discard this notion of spiritual hierarchy that we project from our earthly perspective. Such structures do not exist there; in that realm, there is only harmony and balance. There is no hierarchy—there simply IS.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#110 ·
blueeagle22 said:In my view, he hasn't actually claimed to receive divine revelations or anything like that; honestly, we just find it easier to use "he" or "she" as a shorthand. There’s a universal truth out there that you can actually touch once you purge your soul of everything disrupting your inner peace. When you hit that state, you receive inspiration from God. I believe all of it stems from the Creator—people simply feel the truth in their hearts and put it on paper. Personally, I felt it myself once, right when God stepped in to help me, and that only happened because I prayed with 100% sincerity. All those healings occur because God's energy heals them; people simply align themselves with His truth, which is nothing but pure love and grace. If someone starts preaching about God but you can see they're unhinged, or even if they look perfectly normal but feel off, they're a liar. You can recognize that true divine energy just by looking at a photo of Pope John Paul II. Just look at his face.

He speaks every single day, reaching everyone through the people around us and even through our own thoughts. It’s just that sometimes we don't hear our own truth, or we fail to recognize it. We are part of something massive that transcends our individual selves. But we trick ourselves into thinking we have all the answers because, let's be honest, people absolutely hate not being able to explain things! So, they create these little belief systems based on their own preconceptions. Add a rigid structure to those assumptions, and boom—you’ve got yourself a whole religion.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#111 ·
It’s a simple fact: any living thing acts against itself, not against God. You can't actually harm God. When we sin, we aren't attacking the divine; we're just sabotaging our own happiness. I'm convinced God set this whole game in motion because life is essentially a classroom—we're here to learn, and the lessons never stop. There's a line in the Quran I've always liked where it says God is a river and life is merely a game and a diversion; we shouldn't take the whole thing too seriously. Sin exists within religions because there is truth in them, which is why they've endured for so long. Truth is eternal, whereas a lie is a hollow nothingness with no foundation, destined to eventually destroy itself. Every evil eventually meets its end, and that's proof enough that God exists. If there were no God, everything would be permitted. Whether you look at the Quran or the Bible, truth is woven throughout, which is why God has allowed these faiths to persist for thousands of years.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#112 ·
wearyowl29 said:He speaks every single day, reaching everyone through the people around us and even through our own thoughts. It’s just that sometimes we don't hear our own truth, or we fail to recognize it. We are part of something massive that transcends our individual selves. But we trick ourselves into thinking we have all the answers because, let's be honest, people absolutely hate not being able to explain things! So, they create these little belief systems based on their own preconceptions. Add a rigid structure to those assumptions, and boom—you’ve got yourself a whole religion.

When Muhammad was asked how he could possibly know so much, his response was simple: he knows nothing. Only God knows.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#113 ·
blueeagle22 said:It’s a simple fact: any living thing acts against itself, not against God. You can't actually harm God. When we sin, we aren't attacking the divine; we're just sabotaging our own happiness. I'm convinced God set this whole game in motion because life is essentially a classroom—we're here to learn, and the lessons never stop. There's a line in the Quran I've always liked where it says God is a river and life is merely a game and a diversion; we shouldn't take the whole thing too seriously. Sin exists within religions because there is truth in them, which is why they've endured for so long. Truth is eternal, whereas a lie is a hollow nothingness with no foundation, destined to eventually destroy itself. Every evil eventually meets its end, and that's proof enough that God exists. If there were no God, everything would be permitted. Whether you look at the Quran or the Bible, truth is woven throughout, which is why God has allowed these faiths to persist for thousands of years.

"Life is a school, we are here to learn"—well, if you sit with that thought for a moment and really dissect it, you'll realize it's a falsehood. Do you drive a car just to memorize every technical detail of the operation, or do you do it to actually experience the drive? Life is an experience, plain and simple. This same tired philosophy repeats itself in New Age circles—they claim "life is a lesson," but honestly, people have no idea how much they are being lied to. http://www.youaretrulyloved.com/enli...-not-a-school/ Personally, I might even strike the word "evil" from my vocabulary; it would be far more accurate to use the term "imbalance." God is balance—yes—and "evil" is simply a deviation from that equilibrium. However, both are intrinsic parts of life and the Creator. Consequently, you don't need any specific Quran; everything you require, all the answers, already reside within you. Forget about any "holy books"—those are often nothing more than works of Lucifer.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#114 ·
Look, life is just one long lesson. There won't be some final exam where God grills us on everything we learned. He put us here to experience things, plain and simple. I don't even buy the whole hell concept; the fact that we suffer right here on Earth proves that pain is just an unavoidable part of the deal. Even in other faiths, they teach that both good and evil come from the same source. Honestly, there’s no point in arguing about this anymore. I'm done talking because I don't have all the answers. Who knows what tomorrow holds? Life might throw me a curveball that turns me into the worst version of myself. It isn't easy. For some, life is heaven; for others, it's a living hell. We'll see what happens. No one knows what kind of plan God has in store for us, but I'll keep fighting to be a better person. Everyone has their limits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEHuSH-qW38
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#115 ·
blueeagle22 said:Look, life is just one long lesson. There won't be some final exam where God grills us on everything we learned. He put us here to experience things, plain and simple. I don't even buy the whole hell concept; the fact that we suffer right here on Earth proves that pain is just an unavoidable part of the deal. Even in other faiths, they teach that both good and evil come from the same source. Honestly, there’s no point in arguing about this anymore. I'm done talking because I don't have all the answers. Who knows what tomorrow holds? Life might throw me a curveball that turns me into the worst version of myself. It isn't easy. For some, life is heaven; for others, it's a living hell. We'll see what happens. No one knows what kind of plan God has in store for us, but I'll keep fighting to be a better person. Everyone has their limits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEHuSH-qW38

Of course there won't be a hell—if you ask me, just try to guess whose original invention that was. It's nothing more than a fabrication born from a disturbed mind, really.
Furthermore, if one were to study the Bible with any degree of attention, they would realize that hell is simply separation from God—and that separation is happening... right now!
We suffer precisely because we are disconnected; however, that disconnection itself was imposed upon us. One has to wonder—why can't you recall who or where you were before this lifetime? And go ahead, guess who is responsible for that amnesia. 🙂 I have already provided the answer.

"mostly there's no point in arguing anymore, I won't talk about it further because I don't know everything, I don't know what tomorrow brings—maybe life will force me to become the worst person in the world, life isn't easy, for some it's heaven and for others it's hell, we'll see what life brings."

Fine then; live your life and we shall see.
And yes, none of us knows everything—which is precisely why engaging in these discussions is worthwhile; it is the only way to actually arrive at any semblance of truth.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#116 ·
True. We should always approach things with an open mind. I’ve always felt that if you don't know something, there's no point in pretending you do—I only speak on what I actually understand. I won't claim the Quran is 100% divine truth or that the Bible is, but both contain truths. Some parts clearly feel like they were inserted just to intimidate people, but you have to recognize that for what it is and just ignore it. When a text starts weighing heavily on your soul, that's your sign it isn't from God.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#117 ·
goldenscout14 said:But I find myself wondering, at what specific point in history did this actually take place? Who exactly was authorized to sign away our collective rights in some cosmic sales agreement on behalf of every single one of us? And if Satan is truly this dominant force on Earth, why isn't there a single holiday dedicated to him?🤔

I’m just waiting for the day they try to give him his own holiday. Honestly, what’s the point of celebrating him? Who is he to demand our worship? Let those who sold their souls to him celebrate; we believers have no interest in it.☕
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#118 ·
wearyowl29 said:It all sounds lovely on paper, but something about it feels a bit off—almost like someone is playing the victim. You know? It seems like so many people claim to speak for Him. They act like they have Him all figured out—His desires, His struggles, His hopes, how much He’s suffering up in Heaven, what He’s planning next, and what He’s doing at every single moment.

They even act like they know He’s male...😂

And that He had a son with an earthly woman through some sort of laboratory miracle, only to dispose of Him because His "product" wasn't quite up to standard.
He apparently hoped the Son would actually accomplish something, but all that was left was a supposed organization that exists just to keep itself going. Once you see through a God like that—once you realize we've basically unmasked Him—there's really nothing left to say.


It seems you believe I’m brimming with more knowledge than even God himself. If that's the case, why don't you be so kind as to explain exactly what it is I believe in—and more importantly, what the actual purpose of my life is?
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#119 ·
blueeagle22 said:When Muhammad was asked how he could possibly know so much, his response was simple: he knows nothing. Only God knows.

And he just stays silent about it...
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#120 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:It seems you believe I’m brimming with more knowledge than even God himself. If that's the case, why don't you be so kind as to explain exactly what it is I believe in—and more importantly, what the actual purpose of my life is?

Actually, no. It’s just me questioning your supposed "knowledge" regarding God.

The rest of that? That's just a classic ad hominem attack.

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