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Why doesn't God share His knowledge?

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Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#121 ·
wearyowl29 said:Actually, no. It’s just me questioning your supposed "knowledge" regarding God.

The rest of that? That's just a classic ad hominem attack.


What do you actually know about God? Everything? Or nothing at all?
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#122 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:What do you actually know about God? Everything? Or nothing at all?

Nothing at all... honestly, I’m certainly not trying to pretend I have all the answers just to mask my own ignorance.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#123 ·
blueeagle22 said:True. We should always approach things with an open mind. I’ve always felt that if you don't know something, there's no point in pretending you do—I only speak on what I actually understand. I won't claim the Quran is 100% divine truth or that the Bible is, but both contain truths. Some parts clearly feel like they were inserted just to intimidate people, but you have to recognize that for what it is and just ignore it. When a text starts weighing heavily on your soul, that's your sign it isn't from God.

The best course of action is to find a comfortable spot on the floor—somewhere warm and inviting, preferably—and simply sit. Quiet the mind, ask the hard questions, and attempt to find the answers for yourself. Sure, external information can serve as a catalyst for insight, but merely memorizing someone else's data and mistaking it for actual wisdom is, frankly, foolish.

And who decided that "truth" is exclusively synonymous with light and love? There are dark truths out there that could drive a person mad, but truth is truth, damn it.
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#124 ·
Look, blind faith is useless if you don't actually grasp what's happening. Every commandment from God and every word spoken by Jesus can be broken down logically; it’s not just about swallowing things whole. I've seen plenty of people in the Church who are clearly just using religion to mask the fact that their lives are falling apart. They bury their heads in the sand to avoid reality, praying incessantly for miracles while ignoring common sense. God isn't going to fix everything for you through prayer alone. If you're broke or out of shape, get up and actually do something about it. It's pure hypocrisy to pray for help and then turn around and refuse to lend a hand to someone else when they actually need it.
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#125 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:You’re always correcting us, so clearly you think you've got it all figured out based on what you've posted.

Honestly, we really ought to start questioning everything we hold onto without hesitation. Take everything with a grain of salt.
Nancy Wilson2 Nancy Wilson2 Active Member
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#126 ·
blueeagle22 said:Look, blind faith is useless if you don't actually grasp what's happening. Every commandment from God and every word spoken by Jesus can be broken down logically; it’s not just about swallowing things whole. I've seen plenty of people in the Church who are clearly just using religion to mask the fact that their lives are falling apart. They bury their heads in the sand to avoid reality, praying incessantly for miracles while ignoring common sense. God isn't going to fix everything for you through prayer alone. If you're broke or out of shape, get up and actually do something about it. It's pure hypocrisy to pray for help and then turn around and refuse to lend a hand to someone else when they actually need it.

What is there even to believe in? One must seek understanding, experience it, and truly KNOW!
Someone who supposedly returned from the dead once said that only two things truly matter when you leave this life: love and knowledge. I believe I came across that sentiment in Talbot's *The Holographic Universe*—a fascinating read, regardless.
But, unfortunately, there is no room for "faith" in that equation.

Not everyone fits the mold you've described—there are certainly good people out there—but then again, this planet is home to all sorts of questionable characters.😁
blueeagle22 blueeagle22 Member
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#127 ·
I was being a bit vague earlier; what I really meant is that the more we understand, the more deeply we can truly empathize with others. God commanded us to show kindness toward all His creatures.

Sometimes it’s better to stop overthinking and just feel. Ronald Nelson2, if that's what your heart tells you, then you're right. It’s about actions, not empty words—God looks at our deeds and what lies within our hearts. I think I'll stop typing now before I say something I regret. Everyone needs to find their own path. Peace.
Kenneth Barnes7 Kenneth Barnes7 Member
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#128 ·
wearyowl29 said:Honestly, we really ought to start questioning everything we hold onto without hesitation. Take everything with a grain of salt.

Exactly. A little salt goes a long way... without it, you've got nothing.🙂
goldenscout14 goldenscout14 Active Member
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#129 ·
Nancy Wilson2 said:🤦

It happened roughly a millennium ago, give or take.
As for who signed the contract? No one—it was forced upon us against our will.
And don't be naive; there are plenty of "holidays"—just ask any Satanist or our dear Illuminati overlords when they hold their ceremonies to summon spirits and invite possession.

I was actually referring to a federal holiday, where we could all just get together and enjoy ourselves.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#130 ·
goldenscout14 said:I was actually referring to a federal holiday, where we could all just get together and enjoy ourselves.

And what exactly would you be celebrating? What is there for a person to find joy in there?
Zachary Thomas2 Zachary Thomas2 Newcomer
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#131 ·
Susan Green15 said:What could possibly be the noble reasoning behind an omniscient God choosing not to share the kind of knowledge that could save millions of lives or simply make our existence less of a struggle?
During the Middle Ages, countless millions perished from the plague and various other ailments, not to mention the periods of famine caused by things like potato blight wiping out crops.
Why didn't God explain the mechanics of the plague or how to treat it, instead just watching silently as millions died, leaving us to stumble upon the cures entirely on our own?

Why do people continue to praise Jesus for miraculous healings rather than criticizing him for using his knowledge and abilities for his own promotion and glory, instead of teaching humanity medicine so we could actually heal ourselves—both in greater numbers and long after his passing?

He couldn't, because He isn't omnipotent. Or He wouldn't, because He isn't good. Or, quite simply, He doesn't exist, and people are just too foolish to accept it; they invent justifications for Him because it's easier to deal with a deity than with the idea that everything is just made up.
Gerald Roberts Gerald Roberts Newcomer
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#132 ·
Brian Campbell3 said:Jesus told her, "I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me will live, even if they die." Honestly, isn't God's whole point to make sure we get that eternal life instead of just dragging out these few decades we spend wandering around on Earth? It's like, the consequences of sin, sickness, and food shortages have to actually play out so we can see what happens when we drift away from God. And let's be real, God is trying to heal us from something way more lethal than any disease or famine you'll find in the States—He's targeting the worst fallout of sin, which is selfishness. Because unless we're cured of that specific sickness, how are we supposed to live with God forever?

Amen. Well said.
Israel suffered whenever they turned away from God, and flourished whenever they listened to Him. We see that same pattern playing out across the globe today, and right here in America as well.
Harold Doyle3 Harold Doyle3 Active Member
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#133 ·
Zachary Thomas2 said:He couldn't, because He isn't omnipotent. Or He wouldn't, because He isn't good. Or, quite simply, He doesn't exist, and people are just too foolish to accept it; they invent justifications for Him because it's easier to deal with a deity than with the idea that everything is just made up.

And why on earth does that make them dim?
From what I can see—based strictly on the people I actually know—those who don't believe in God tend to be more successful, sharper, happier, and wiser than those "idiots" relying on an imaginary friend to get them through the day.
Either they aren't idiots, or there's some actual force helping them level the playing field with everyone else.
Susan Green15 Susan Green15 MemberOP
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#134 ·
Harold Doyle3 said:And why on earth does that make them dim?
From what I can see—based strictly on the people I actually know—those who don't believe in God tend to be more successful, sharper, happier, and wiser than those "idiots" relying on an imaginary friend to get them through the day.
Either they aren't idiots, or there's some actual force helping them level the playing field with everyone else.

The gentleman was simply poorly phrased; he likely meant hypocritical. You believers achieve success in the real world because you actually employ logic, reasoning, and observation to survive. If you applied the same thought process used for faith to your daily lives, we’d all be dead within thirty minutes. Essentially, you operate under a double standard. When it comes to religion, you choose to believe whatever feels comfortable rather than what can be backed by evidence.

For instance, you've decided that God is good, omnipotent, and just, primarily because it makes for a pleasant belief system, regardless of whether any actual arguments support it.

Just imagine if you convinced yourself in the real world that humans could fly simply because you wished it were true. If you religious folk firmly believed you could fly without bothering to check if it made any sense, the entire population would be wiped out in a matter of days.

But when it pertains to faith, you allow yourselves to think however you please—inventing concepts without any logical foundation and justifying contradictions—all without facing any immediate consequences.

An atheist, on the other hand, applies the same set of standards whether they are discussing faith or reality. An atheist remains consistent in their way of thinking.
Arthur Grant8 Arthur Grant8 Member
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#135 ·
Why doesn't God just share all this knowledge with us?

You can't go throwing pearls before swine...☕
Susan Green15 Susan Green15 MemberOP
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#136 ·
Arthur Grant8 said:Why doesn't God just share all this knowledge with us?

You can't go throwing pearls before swine...☕

And why on earth would you consider yourself a pig?
Arthur Grant8 Arthur Grant8 Member
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#137 ·
Susan Green15 said:And why on earth would you consider yourself a pig?

Compared to God, I'm lower than a pig...☕
Susan Green15 Susan Green15 MemberOP
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#138 ·
Arthur Grant8 said:Compared to God, I'm lower than a pig...☕

Why exactly is a pig considered more significant in the eyes of God than we are? I honestly don't follow the logic here. Is this hierarchy exclusive to swine, or are there other animals that hold a higher status before God than humans do? It seems counterintuitive. If God didn't design animals specifically to serve mankind, then shouldn't that imply we sit above them in the natural order? After all, if He granted us dominion over them for our own use, it stands to reason that we occupy a superior position.
Ronald Nelson2 Ronald Nelson2 Member
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#139 ·
Susan Green15 said:Why exactly is a pig considered more significant in the eyes of God than we are? I honestly don't follow the logic here. Is this hierarchy exclusive to swine, or are there other animals that hold a higher status before God than humans do? It seems counterintuitive. If God didn't design animals specifically to serve mankind, then shouldn't that imply we sit above them in the natural order? After all, if He granted us dominion over them for our own use, it stands to reason that we occupy a superior position.

True, but God didn't create animals for us to abuse. They exist for food and resources—not so we can hunt an Arctic fox just for its fur.
You clearly haven't grasped the core of this. Read the Bible; maybe talk it over with a priest. It might make things a bit clearer for you.
Nancy Williams58 Nancy Williams58 Active Member
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#140 ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:True, but God didn't create animals for us to abuse. They exist for food and resources—not so we can hunt an Arctic fox just for its fur.
You clearly haven't grasped the core of this. Read the Bible; maybe talk it over with a priest. It might make things a bit clearer for you.

Total nonsense. Killing an Arctic fox for its fur, if it's used to keep a person warm, is no different than slaughtering a pig for food. Besides, why don't you show me one single verse in the Bible that forbids killing an Arctic fox?

The fact that you immediately jumped to the conclusion that someone’s wearing fur just as a fashion statement is a whole different story.

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